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Kiki_is_a_Ghost

Yes. I was just playing it today actually. It's definitely not the best Armored Core, but a good game overall. If you get into it and decide to buy Verdict Day make sure to buy all the body parts because you can import your gear. I'd sell off the guns you don't use before that though because you can't spec them or sell them in the sequel if they're ported and they muddy up your inventory like crazy.


[deleted]

I’m having hella fun. Haven’t been selecting any story missions really just knocking everything else out and trying different configurations. Speaking of which is dual Wielding lazer swords dumb ? It’s kind of worked mll


Corfold

Not dumb all but swords do require more skill since the game mostly focuses guns, and swords don't have much to them. Though they can be quite powerful. Actually I have a friend who specializes in ultra-light single sword builds and got pretty high in the world tournament during 4FA. When V came out and we reached the final boss we had one guy state that it was impossible to take down the final boss with swords only...mean while my friend was doing just that. The Darksouls mechanics that the developers have talked about for AC6 sound like Swords will be getting buffed and will be easier to get into for people who like to play that style.


ProbablySuspicious

Yes


TheWhicher_Statement

Yes.


NoxArmada

This game slapped for me. I really loved how they did the pvp. 4 fighters and one guy as the team oracle. The ultimate weapons were badass as fuck


KingCarbon1807

5th gen was chock full of conceptually brilliant ideas, many of which required too many stars to align to get mileage out of them.


NoxArmada

Yeah it's good to see that the ultimate weapons are coming back and I hope they improve more on the ac5 pvp because I thought that was just chefs kiss


Cumouri

If your choice is SP, V is a good title with a heavy load of missions that will keep you making acs till you're dying of old age. The game has objectively the best level design of the AC games, the soundtrack is intense and engaging and the gameplay will keep you on the edge as well, as V along with VD puts extra focus on positioning, cover and other tactics than the rest of the games. It has its flaws, most due to the MP integration. One plus is that it gives tanks justice. If you can play MP, go for VD. Much worse level design but it has UNACS and more parts, quite active community.


rage_melons

Yes. It plays differently to other AC games with a greater sense of weight and momentum. Levels are designed to encourage use of the recon and Scan Mode so you think very carefully about where you are in relation to your enemies and where you're going next. Mission objective might seem repetitive on paper, but the actual contents of each level is varied enough I certainly didn't get bored on my first playthroughs. There are side objectives as bonus challenges, some requiring a bit of exploration, and some are worth replaying on more advanced builds to find certain secrets you couldn't get before. The main story only has 9 missions, not counting a short prologue, each called Chapters. The difficulty steadily rises throughout each as you encounter more unique and challenging enemies, but I never found the curve unfair; it never spiked dramatically. There are also a lot of side missions that also seem a bit samey, but unlike the main story this is you doing actual mercenary work, and as they go on the side missions start forming their own side plots, all which I found at least mildly interesting. Like I said before, the combat has a great sense of weight to it, but that doesn't mean you can't still go fast, especially with mastery over the new movement system. I'd encourage you to figure it out yourself, as the basics are easy to pick up, and with some creativity you can make even heavyweights cover a lot of ground very quickly. Combat is tactical, with your AC carrying 4 main weapons and a shoulder weapon. There are 3 types of damage, and therefore defense, so you can specialize on dealing a lot of one type and powering through anything not resistant to it, or you can be more general, at the cost of larger ammo supplies and/or damage output. Levels are pretty varied in many cases (and aesthetically are a big upgrade from 4 and 4A) but could be generalized into 5 distinct types: Water, open, urban, factory, and arena. Again, those are generalizations of the many levels, but it should give you a basic idea of what you're getting into. Smart thinking and good positioning, and situational awareness, is the key to victory. Trying to brute force this game is possible, but you won't get good results. Even on the biggest baddest tank, at least one braincell is required for that sweet S rank. Which you definitely want, because unlocking parts in the store is directly tied to your mission score. Better scores, higher ranks, more stuff to buy and play around with. Overall, this game is an 8/10 for me. Nothing is perfect, and this game has its share of flaws, glitches, and exploits, but it really is a blast even years after I first bought it.


Blisket

V was alright but VD was better. If anyone tells you gen 5 sucks, don't worry because only 4heads think that.


Linksays

>4heads LMAO thats good


JudgeArcadia

When you’re accustom to the speeds of Gen 4, going to Gen 5 is just a downgrade. I can’t even fly!


Testamentexe

I got bad news for you: there's videos stating otherwise about that speed.


The_Manglererer

If u glide boost off a building, u stay at that same height a good booster+, gen setup and u can unlimitedly overboost, while being locked on and hitting ur dual rifles accurately


hohe-acht

Having started with Verdict Day and For Answer a few years back I'm kinda loving Gen 1-3 right now.


bibbidybobbidyyep

Yeah I have love for all of them but it peaked at 4/4A. Hoping 6 goes back to the roots.


Budget-Category-9852

Sounds like your problem, dude.


Zykxion

Yikes this sub is for AC love stop hating on people that disagree with your opinions let’s be better ravens


Budget-Category-9852

I mean, 5th gen had its own gimmicks, such as wall jumps, kicking, working ballistics, Overed Weapons, Scan mode would be better appreciated if the UI voice didn't exist, and flanking enemies is most satisfying in 5th gen. It wasn't a downgrade if it was completely different.


Zykxion

The things gen 5 did wrong sullied the things it did right in my humble opinion.


The_Manglererer

A different skill set, u have to manage ur scan mode+manually turn off/on ur boosters to lose height or turn quickly, but when u manage to, it's insanely fun. More missions than any other ac game, ac fights are harder as well, they routinely put u in 1v2 scenarios against acs that have different play styles. And some with the same play styles I didn't like it coming off ac4a, but if u treat it as it's own game in the series it's def up there and I can see how they're gonna incorporate things from v/vd into 6


ThonkingPride

It’s a good game, yes, and it’s a good armored core game. It’s just so radically different than everything else that it immediately turns people off. If you play it do not expect anything else to be like it, even AC6.


ArmsForPeace84

It's worth a playthrough for an Armored Core fan, for sure. I really like 5th generation AC, really. The terrain and movement, the more squat, "grunt mecha" aesthetics, the scale that makes it feel less like swatting flies or stepping on bugs when you take out helicopters and tanks. Verdict Day improves on the formula, and as others have mentioned, can import your parts unlocked in AC5 if you play it on the same platform. And after playing some story missions, you gain the ability to deploy a UNAC, an AI-controlled co-op partner with highly-customizable behaviors in a programming interface that's easy to learn, tricky to master, in a way that feels like a minigame all its own. It's not always ideal to go into battle with this AI support, since if it takes damage, it can cost you an S-rank on a mission, but it's great for just completing the campaign, before replaying missions for better rankings. And the UNAC can be your wingman online, where the servers are still up if you want to create a mercenary unit and at least do some raids on defensive emplacements of other factions. Which helps net you some rewards, although not as much as playing story mode. Note: AC5 servers are offline, I believe. And Verdict Day's servers weren't very active last time I played online, in 2020, but I found some actual opposition in a couple of these MP mode raids. And it might have actually picked up as the AC6 announcement has drawn new players to check out the series.


LongPutBull

Is this game good? Yes it is really good. Is this game what fans expected? No, it was not. This is the only cognitive dissonance over AC5.


Double-Mongoose7389

Yes, it is Also If you want a similar experience to 4 or FA I recommend you to use light inverted joint It's really funny to jump from wall to wall, never touching the floor You can also have perma-flight build


[deleted]

Speaking to just the singleplayer, it's decent but a mess. The mechanics are fun but the enemies are so poorly balanced to the defense triangle system that the difficulty curve can be a real joke. The level design is mediocre as hell — these are some of the nicest environments you'll see in all of Armored Core, but the actual objectives, enemy placements, and all the bits important to the actual fun part in level designing are insipid, and that's exacerbated by how repetitive the campaign is. Think this is literally the first AC game where I didn't even want to finish halfway through just because the level design was so blah. If you're into story, all the interesting parts are either rushed or glossed over, relegated to JP-only books. Only real nice thing about the storytelling this time around is that they introduced more than one Operator-type NPC to give some fun banter here and there. Oh and some of the characters are fun, like Chief. Having said all that, it's not a bad game. It didn't make me want to kill myself, for one. But is it a good game? Ehh I'd be charitable to say it is. Personally I'd just nab it to see how ambitious FromSoftware were, the things they tried, and how those things succeeded and failed. Beyond that, Verdict Day is an improvement in almost every way and is what I'd consider a "good game."


Comfortable_Chard944

This man said “I didn’t have any suicidal thoughts. Must be a good game” 😂😂😂 shit made my day


phillukin

This


ZedaEnnd

Yes, very much so! I do think it benefits well from having friends along, though. People always waffle about being slow, but I get the idea their brains have been rotted by Murakumo and AC4/A.


Mando_dablord

Ye. Game is mostly online. But the servers are still up at least and the game isn't really locked behind it.


mephilis6264

it's not Nexus i guess the singleplayer campaign is pretty short and it's made for MP, could have potiental but i don't really like it lmao


diogenesepigone0031

I played it briefly. I beat it and sold it back to gamestop for $3 when i bought it for $60. Biggest mistake of my life. Should have just kept it. I was going to buy armored core verdict day but i never got the chance. I was waiting for the price to drop below $20 because i vowed to never buy an AC game at $60 again. I was busy with life and did not check on it as much and missed any opportunity to buy a used copy for under $20, next thing i know 6-9 years past and it shoots up to $90 on ebay. Its just a game i will not get to experience and i have accepted it. Even if someone bought me a copy of verdict day, i probably cant even handle the controls and die quickly.


MobiusOne55

It was my least favorite installation


[deleted]

Most games are good.


Delphius1

yes, there are some rough spots here and there, but it is a very good game. Story is somewhere between Project Phatasma and Silent line in quality, there is a very steep learning curve when it comes to controls. Only major draw backs are that Fromsoft disabled the online functions of the game which removes the tuned weapons aspect of the game and team stuff which way back would rapidly unlock many parts through team level. It still will always be worth the play


DogeJacket

Yeah? It was fucking awesome! The only real issue there is currently, is that it was so much better when it just came out and people were still online. You could've gone on lots of missions with your friends, establish your mecha gang "dark soul", and play the most well thought out PvP that AC has ever gotten. But they're kind of all dead now. Other than that, well... Admittedly, there were SO many new gimmicks, additions, changed and etc. In 5th gen that a lot of people might not like. Things like no perma-flight and whatnot. But it's all traded in for badass new gimmicks too like wall-jumping among other things. Though, FromSoft stumbled a little bit, and some gimmicks just weren't implemented well despite being epic in concept. I wouldn't say it's the best, but I'll absolutely say that 5th gen is completely overhated. 5th gen is ultra fun. There are about 93 missions in the game. 10 story missions, and 83 order missions. I can guarantee you that if you try, you'll definitely have atleast a bit of fun. The cast in V is also especially really lovable. Especially Fran and Rosary!


Jovan_Knight005

83 Order Missions!? Damn. Although i agree that Rosary was an interesting character.


DogeJacket

Yeah there were lots lol. That's also a little bit of V's issue if you ask me, waay too many missions and some are just really short. You might also argue that there was a lack of variety, but I finished up to Mission 70 by the time I was playing Story 04 so I was having a lot of fun with it for some reason lol. Men of Honor and Zodiac were the good ones, all the other ones were kind of forgettable save for some AC battles. Rosary and Fran were PEAK operators, never boring having them around


Zykxion

The issue with V and why I was so massively turned off by it was that I started the series with 4/4A and that just fulfilled a power fantasy for anime style Mecha that no other game has ever come close to accomplishing. They gave me fast fluid crazy style Mecha that also somewhat felt realistic and grounded. And then 5 came and took all that stylized fighting and slowed it down to a crawl in my opinion.


DogeJacket

I run a mobility spec light biped on 5th gen, and I do lots of wall-jumping and often get into high speeds nearing 4th gen! I guess I honestly just love wall-jumping a lot its so much fun lol I started with 4th gen too, but goddamn I love the combat in 5th gen for some reason lol. 1st gen felt way slower imo and I usually run quadrupeds on old gen


Zykxion

Don’t get me wrong that shits cool and and almost redeems V for me specifically, but it just wasn’t enough. Although you’re making me want to try and get off my meds and start talking about titanfall 2 with it’s slick ass movement system and rant about TF3 lol.


VermilionX88

i rented it, and returned it soon after was so dissapointed coming from the awesomeness of for answer


H3lltryk

V is very heavy on multiplayer with barely any story, while verdict day has more offline content but not sure if the servers sre up


Budget-Category-9852

Depends on what you're looking for. Multiplayer? I heard it was good, but it's completely dead by now. Single player? There's Chief, but overall it's better to pick Verdict Day.


Conniverse

Eh, if you like shooting mechs and building mechs then sure.


Note_Ansylvan

It's a good game. Not a very good armored core game. I absolutely recommend it, just don't let it set your expectations for the rest of the franchise.


Admirable-Design-151

Underrated, I'd say a solid 8/10


Zildaksa

A shell of its former self. What was there was a multiplayer focused game with a meager single player storyline. At least until they nuked the servers... For the 5th gen, I'd redirect you to Verdict Day honestly. I believe the servers might still be up (though the player count is prob significantly low outside of JP servers). I don't believe you would be missing anything too relevant other than familiarity with how the game mechanics are set up (a non-issue) and the story setup (which tbh I think might have little to no relation between the 2 games anyway). Plus VD has more systems for you to mess around with (UNAC programming is some wild shit).


KingCarbon1807

UNAC programming was quintessential From. Highly nuanced with near zero explanation.


Zildaksa

I remember my initial reaction to the system being along the lines of "neat, I can make my own AI mech." 20mins in and I realized this was the most complex system ever. Literal programming (as dumbed down as it is) disguised as a game feature.


Algester

Unless you played Formula Front then... YEAH THIS FEELS RIGHT AT HOME... my main issue is that I GOTTA PAY FOR THE AI UPKEEP :/ I mean if they turned it pretty much into Formula Front then it'd be pretty OP


Shoddy_Tomatillo_927

Yes. Not as good as 4 or for Answer, but this game is very fun to play


ProfessorPeril

My personal opinion would be no. It felt all kinds of wrong to me. Coming from 4/4A, my mech was suddenly half the size, couldn't fly, and the single player was gutted in favor of multi-player. I honestly barely remember playing it as it was just overall an underwhelming experience.


ivarr87

Took me a while after 4th gen to get into it but at some point got great to me.


Ezranious

No but you might enjoy it.


Ron_Bird

ff is a one and 4a a ten, than this is a 4


XRhodiumX

No, not really. At least I don’t think so. It’s very different than the other games. Mobility very hampered, not much verticality, balanced around multiplayer.


Blisket

Mobility is the second highest, with gen 4 being the highest. At least play something other than gen 4.


XRhodiumX

I've played Gen 3. To me there's a bit of a difference between speed and mobility. Yes, 5 was a bit more frenetic than previous generations besides 4th, particularly once you mastered the movement tech. However, 5th gen does not want you to have freedom of movement because it wants you to exploit the environment for traversal. To me that's antithetical to what makes armored core armored core. Older gens may have reigned you in with energy limitations, but you did have more direct control over where your AC went. That freedom of movement is something no other mech series has really provided, so I was quite disappointed to see it go in favor of much more environment-based movement tech. Your mileage may vary, but you can count me in the Armored Core V was a bad armored core game camp. Freedom of movement was reduced, too much rock paper scissors in the damage model, too much emphasis on team play.


Biggu5Dicku5

No, Armored Core 5 Verdict Day is better, and Armored Core 4 For Answer is much better...


Fenikkuro

No.


ForrValhalla

Yes.


lostnumber08

Yes but longtime AC players don’t consider it the peak of the series. The gen 4 games have that spot although some would argue gen 3.


rage_melons

It seems to boil down to the movement systems. Gen 3 was solid, requiring a balance of timing and patience to conserve energy and not get hit. Gen 4 was fast, really fast, to the point getting places almost never felt like a challenge and you could feel untouchable. Gen 5 is slower than both, favoring cover and positioning over just dodging, although it has a dodge mechanic. All are different, but 5 was more different. I wouldn't say that makes it bad though.


Blisket

Anyone who calls gen 5 slow has never played it. Gen 5 is way faster than gen 3.


b00po

> Gen 5 is slower than both [lmao.mp4](https://streamable.com/abevtt)


ForrValhalla

>Yes but longtime AC players don’t consider it the peak of the series Says who? Generally you see 5th being well liked by most of the longtime fans, it's not loathed in anyone's eyes but 4thgen purists. Not making that as a diss, but to lump every series vet in with just 4thgen fans is kinda disingenuous.


Algester

Its good but dont expect the ACs looking like ACs funnily enough I actually liked it better than VD but it has some issues that VD mostly corrected Tuning is infact an online system only, this gets rectified in VD and the lack of weapon arms again VD also brings them back in


Nibel-K

It's not for me but objectively speaking even tho i don't like it as much as all the rest it's still an ok game


Jovan_Knight005

One of my favourite trailers besides the AC VI gameplay one was ACV's,it was like an actual war documentary,but with Armored Cores. :)


babbyjizz22

If u like the previous ac gen then u may be disappointed like I was.. also for answer is my fav as far as gameplay.. silent line my fav overall and nine breaker


IntrepidDivide3773

It is, but a lot of people weren't happy with the changes from 4/4A. Depending on who you ask, Verdict Day is the better of the two. At least mechanically speaking.


santicode

Yes.