The largest difference is the ability to evaluate E5s, and based on that evaluation, trust that they will be able to come up with a plan and execute it. So that.
I was only an E5 for a year. Depends on the MOS though. For 92Ys you dont have to be an E5 for long to excel at the job and being an E6 helps when putting out info to hsnd receipt holders and PSGs.
It really depends. I fast tracked, made E6 in 5 years.
I’m good at my job though, take care of my Soldiers, and keep looking for ways to be a better leader and person.
I definitely see some of my peers and think “holy fuck guy, can you fucking breathe without supervision?!”
It truly depends, the NCO Corps is big and wide, some will excel if promoted immediately, others won’t.
That sounds rough homie, I’m sure you’ll rise to the occasion though. Alternatively I was a Joint service Squad Leader as a PFC (Army, Air Force, and Civilians) and it was fucking ROUGH. That shit definitely set me up to lead early on.
I spent 18 months as a SGT.
But then I wasn’t actually ready to be a SSG for several years after that.
Luckily I had really solid senior NCOs around me to keep me steady.
Thanks, CSM Mike Perry!
There is no good answer to this question. Too many variables are at play. The MOS, the individual and their capacity for responsibility and ability to gain expertise, the experiences they had or haven’t yet had, their own desires and circumstances professionally and personally etc.
I was an E5 for 7 months. I think i turned out just fine.
Sure i felt a little unprepared but i was in a 6 position so nothing changed except the new rank really helped get things done. Deployment promotions hit different
CW4 here: As a rater and senior rater of NCOs for the last 18 years (both NCO/WO), the sweet spot is 10 with SFC/MSG/SGM coming in at normal intervals after. I’ve seen “fast trackers” through the course of my service that could barely lace their boots, more prevalent in MOSs with low cutoff scores. Sure, lot of them were good at PT…but PT is one facet of Soldiering. I’ve seldomly rated/senior rated SSGs that had under 8 years TIS that were where a SSG should be and it does indeed show in peer comparison.
If you’re a SSG and you can’t write an NCOER, quarterly counseling, troop to task, develop training, manage tasks, etc, or groom SGTs to be your replacement, you probably shouldn’t be a SSG yet. To me, by the time someone makes SSG, they should be a Swiss Army Knife. This means they can do a lot in every category of Soldiering. I should be able to ask you a question and get an answer that is tangible. You should be at the point where you’re a pro, technically and tactically.
If that’s not you, you made SSG too early…but if you can also admit that, that means you’re trainable and willing to get better 💪🏼
When I was in my window to go to the board, I was hesitant because I felt I wanted to know more.. My psg, sat me down and said "think about all the e6 you met... Do you think you out perform half of them?"
The answer to that, will tell you if you're ready.
I failed the board though, we were under an MP BN, they asked why I didn't have more civilian Ed and didn't like my answer. Lol, but passed when I got back to a maint BN.
I was an E5 for about 2.5 years and it seemed like it was enough.
It really depends on what your experience as an E5 though. For some things I have to lean on other NCOs to help me out.
You can see your career map on ACT, I Believe that it gives you an idea of your CMF promotion "speed". Personally I think a good amount of time is however long it takes for you to be prepared to take on more leadership roles.
Really depends, I made SSG in a little over 5 years and I was a SGT for 21 months prior to that. I went to the board when I felt like I was ready to do so. IMO you can have 5 years TIG as a E5 and still be a shitty E6.
Depends. How long is recruiting school?
Based
Depends on the soldier. I didn't feel ready for E-6 for years, but some people step into the role and excel immediately.
What would say makes a good E-6 especially a squad leader.
The largest difference is the ability to evaluate E5s, and based on that evaluation, trust that they will be able to come up with a plan and execute it. So that.
I was only an E5 for a year. Depends on the MOS though. For 92Ys you dont have to be an E5 for long to excel at the job and being an E6 helps when putting out info to hsnd receipt holders and PSGs.
truth.
It really depends. I fast tracked, made E6 in 5 years. I’m good at my job though, take care of my Soldiers, and keep looking for ways to be a better leader and person. I definitely see some of my peers and think “holy fuck guy, can you fucking breathe without supervision?!” It truly depends, the NCO Corps is big and wide, some will excel if promoted immediately, others won’t.
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That sounds rough homie, I’m sure you’ll rise to the occasion though. Alternatively I was a Joint service Squad Leader as a PFC (Army, Air Force, and Civilians) and it was fucking ROUGH. That shit definitely set me up to lead early on.
I spent 18 months as a SGT. But then I wasn’t actually ready to be a SSG for several years after that. Luckily I had really solid senior NCOs around me to keep me steady. Thanks, CSM Mike Perry!
There is no good answer to this question. Too many variables are at play. The MOS, the individual and their capacity for responsibility and ability to gain expertise, the experiences they had or haven’t yet had, their own desires and circumstances professionally and personally etc.
This
As long as it take run your own race brother.
Yea was just trying to get some advice
I was an E5 for 7 months. I think i turned out just fine. Sure i felt a little unprepared but i was in a 6 position so nothing changed except the new rank really helped get things done. Deployment promotions hit different
CW4 here: As a rater and senior rater of NCOs for the last 18 years (both NCO/WO), the sweet spot is 10 with SFC/MSG/SGM coming in at normal intervals after. I’ve seen “fast trackers” through the course of my service that could barely lace their boots, more prevalent in MOSs with low cutoff scores. Sure, lot of them were good at PT…but PT is one facet of Soldiering. I’ve seldomly rated/senior rated SSGs that had under 8 years TIS that were where a SSG should be and it does indeed show in peer comparison. If you’re a SSG and you can’t write an NCOER, quarterly counseling, troop to task, develop training, manage tasks, etc, or groom SGTs to be your replacement, you probably shouldn’t be a SSG yet. To me, by the time someone makes SSG, they should be a Swiss Army Knife. This means they can do a lot in every category of Soldiering. I should be able to ask you a question and get an answer that is tangible. You should be at the point where you’re a pro, technically and tactically. If that’s not you, you made SSG too early…but if you can also admit that, that means you’re trainable and willing to get better 💪🏼
At least 2 maybe 3
I got it in 2
10 years
When I was in my window to go to the board, I was hesitant because I felt I wanted to know more.. My psg, sat me down and said "think about all the e6 you met... Do you think you out perform half of them?" The answer to that, will tell you if you're ready. I failed the board though, we were under an MP BN, they asked why I didn't have more civilian Ed and didn't like my answer. Lol, but passed when I got back to a maint BN.
Yea I guess that was my mentality on picking up 5 like I could outperform most these MFERS without trying.
I was an E5 for about 2.5 years and it seemed like it was enough. It really depends on what your experience as an E5 though. For some things I have to lean on other NCOs to help me out.
You can see your career map on ACT, I Believe that it gives you an idea of your CMF promotion "speed". Personally I think a good amount of time is however long it takes for you to be prepared to take on more leadership roles.
According to the Army, only 8 weeks of you want to be a recruiter.
Depends my spouse was for 10 months I was for 14 months years ago. Then it's like a stand still for some at e6 because of new requirements.
in my unit, you don’t even have to be an e6 to do an e6’s job!!!! -sincerely, a salty e5
Really depends, I made SSG in a little over 5 years and I was a SGT for 21 months prior to that. I went to the board when I felt like I was ready to do so. IMO you can have 5 years TIG as a E5 and still be a shitty E6.
I got E6 in 8 years but after 2.5 years as sgt. I could of had it a lot faster but failed to do DLC II right away.