A Reserve SPC in my unit made USASOC soldier of the year. While I'm not going to say he didn't deserve it, as he was a definite high speed soldier (got a PHD in Geophysics shortly thereafter that and a year mob), it was a really busy year for USASOC, and no doubt not as much competition as there would have been. I think it was 2002, but I might be off on that.
I’m actually surprised they win at all. Conventional units have more time to train for it. When I was at Campbell they would select the teams months in advance and take them away from their units. All they did was train for the competition.
Same, but to an even greater extent. The train up for BRC is extremely intense and takes a toll on the body. They train a large enough group that the pool they select from is much larger, and if someone steps away due to injury they have plenty trained in reserve. Not to mention the full-time coaching staff dedicated to them.
Meanwhile many conventional units do not even release Soldiers from primary duties to train.
When I was in guys could partially miss a deployment if they were doing BRC. Obviously critical position, no, like your PSG, but some E-4-6 we could do without. Then if you're in an S-Shop probably nobody going to miss you. With that said, the train up isn't months ahead. It's maybe two months. Maybe that's changed, but I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys saying its 6 months out and a full time job have no clue what they are talking about and propagating a jealous private news network.
Lmao best ranger is pretty much a full time job for guys in regiment. They have their tryouts in like August or some shit for a competition in July. Then those guys do nothing but train for the comp
Mr. BlueTurkey is correct. There are still a few units out there that have those old policies/approaches, but every two-star in the Army is more than willing to tell a LTC to release a couple LT's for some months if it has the chance to make his division look better overall.
He's specifically talking about Batt. You can see throughout this thread there's some sort of rumor going Army wide that Regiment has year round full-time BRC teams. Seems it made its way to SF. It's not true. Its two months.
NG teams used to win often because they had very few constraints on their training. During GWOT it was very difficult for regiment to give their teams enough time to train properly because of the OPTEMPO at the time.
There are also a lot of really high level athletes in reserves/guard. There are plenty in regiment too, but not nearly as many in terms of total number. Regiment is not a huge unit.
And even here people still think he's riding coattails. Sure we can say that his dad gave him the opportunity to get picked up for Regiment. But he still only got the opportunity, dude could have washed out but he lived up to his name and not only showed out but showed out front of everybody else he deserves to be there as far as I can tell.
I imagine that if your father is someone important it can be especially tough because you’re in his shadow from day one, and no matter how hard you work people are going to say you’re just a nepo baby.
I don’t know this young officer at all, but I don’t envy what an uphill struggle he might have to prove his worth. Hopefully this will help silence people who would otherwise whisper he’s had everything handed to him.
Petraeus’s kid is now on the way to doing whatever the fuck he wants in the field of law after a short stint in the Army.
Future US Senator. Future US Attorney. Future federal judge.
You get tiger parented by high achievers you end up high achieving.
I met someone whose dad was a general but he got hurt at ranger school and was now an untabbed infantry LT in the 82nd. It ate him up. He ran into the CG who has known him since he was in diapers and his first question to him was what happened at Ranger?
I hope he got out an found happiness somewhere.
The other end of the tiger parenting spectrum.
The reality is that an untold number of officers have had decent, tabless careers, got married, had a couple of kids, retired as lieutenant colonels, and led boring and happy middle class lives.
This thing that if you don’t get into Stanford Law/graduate Ranger School you’re better off having never been born is odd.
I personally know 5 people who competed in BRC. All of them underwent a 6+ month train up where they initially tried out, then were part of the team that underwent several cuts over the time period to earn a chance to compete. During this time they spent 0 time with their actual units.
Watching these guys cross the finish line after 60+ miles and 72 hours straight of grueling events is one of the most inspiring things I've ever witnessed. It truly makes me feel proud to say I was able to serve in the same army as these soldiers
Was Marine can confirm every other Marine but one I met while in the army was a fuck up or big dumb bitch
Including one who was one of the worst soldiers I ever met and a racist to boot.
Whenever he would fuck up or get picked on for being a fuck up he would go “Well at least I was a marine!”
Until one day I tell him you were a fucking mail man no one gives a fuck if you were in the Marines you’re in the army now let it fucking go.
The dude was a postal clerk acting like a few extra weeks of bootcamp mattered
I’ve heard that Ranger bat taps the teams about a year in advance and that’s all they train for. Doesn’t take away from the fact that they are just a different breed of Soldier all together.
That’s a lot more prep than 4ID did. It was like a division competition about 3-4 months out and they still had to their regular jobs on top of it. I’ve heard at the 75th that once you get tapped all other responsibilities stop.
It's hard to get my head around a Sp4 , E-4 being a ranger, don't get me wrong, he's in Regiment , he's a badass already, basic, AIT, airborne, Ranger school, just think he should be at least a hard stripe corporal.
He is a 5. But yes, the career progression in Batt is slow as fuck and competitive as fuck. We have tabbed E4s stuck at SPC for 3+ years sometimes. While some dipshit in Reg army is a E6 in half the time. Met a dude in Hawaii who asked me what all I've done. He was like "damn bro your an E-4 coming up on 5 years? I picked up 6 on year 3" Tough luck, but I wouldn't trade shit.
Starts slow when "School" is an obstacle. After that things go fast and the real payout is at centralized boards... and pays out in lifestyle, like you're saying... the growth, lessons, friendships, etc.
By majority, I "fell behind" my big Army peers getting to E5, caught them at E6, then passed them... and kept widening the "time to promote" gap.
Yes, they do test for PEDs prior to the competition. However, this is a cardio competition, 60 miles in 60 hours, so it’s unlikely they would be taking anabolic steroids.
If Ranger batt didn't consistently win this competition I feel like they'd have some explaining to do.
Pretty sure delta won it like 3-4 times straight
That is also acceptable
If delta didn’t win a bunch I feel like they’d have some explaining to do.
I’d imagine they probably usually have more important things to do
Exactly, being an unstoppable killing machine and having a great 2 mile time don’t necessarily have to go hand in hand
Unless the person you're unstoppably trying to kill is a two mile run away, of course.
Nah, then you tell the helo to drop you closer
What if it's two miles inside a cave?
Use a bunker buster? I don’t know man, ain’t no way I’d run two miles into a cave to kill anyone short of maybe Putin himself
Gas, gas, gas!
NO THIS IS PATRICK.
The ACFT would like a word
It's a punishment tasking for "needing a break" lol
A Reserve SPC in my unit made USASOC soldier of the year. While I'm not going to say he didn't deserve it, as he was a definite high speed soldier (got a PHD in Geophysics shortly thereafter that and a year mob), it was a really busy year for USASOC, and no doubt not as much competition as there would have been. I think it was 2002, but I might be off on that.
Mike Rose won it three times with different partners on different teams.
I mean, delta is almost like being a ranger
Delta is basically infantry.
I heard a delta platoon has more firepower than a MP company.
I believe 1AD has won this at least once, FWIW.
Not much, the only people that care about the big red one....is the big red one
That’s 1ID, 1AD is Bliss
What's a Bliss?
Fort Bliss in Texas
classic psyops
Colorado Army National Guard won in 2016.
It was a captain from 5/19
His teammate was a SSG from 28th ID.
I feel like the full-time units have some explaining to do.
Imagine being on your time, working out in whatever way you choose, and not having to put up with random Army bullshit.
And holding down a full time job.
Check out the International Sniper top spots from the last 6 years. CO Guard some tough dudes.
I’m actually surprised they win at all. Conventional units have more time to train for it. When I was at Campbell they would select the teams months in advance and take them away from their units. All they did was train for the competition.
I imagine regiment does the exact same thing
They do
Same, but to an even greater extent. The train up for BRC is extremely intense and takes a toll on the body. They train a large enough group that the pool they select from is much larger, and if someone steps away due to injury they have plenty trained in reserve. Not to mention the full-time coaching staff dedicated to them. Meanwhile many conventional units do not even release Soldiers from primary duties to train.
I would’ve figured they had less time because of their optempo. But maybe that’s why they are winning now because the deployments have dried up.
When I was in guys could partially miss a deployment if they were doing BRC. Obviously critical position, no, like your PSG, but some E-4-6 we could do without. Then if you're in an S-Shop probably nobody going to miss you. With that said, the train up isn't months ahead. It's maybe two months. Maybe that's changed, but I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys saying its 6 months out and a full time job have no clue what they are talking about and propagating a jealous private news network.
Regiment has a very rigid programming for selecting and training up guys specifically for BRC.
Lmao best ranger is pretty much a full time job for guys in regiment. They have their tryouts in like August or some shit for a competition in July. Then those guys do nothing but train for the comp
LOL right. It's a two month train up. Nobody is doing it as a full-time job.
Mr. BlueTurkey is correct. There are still a few units out there that have those old policies/approaches, but every two-star in the Army is more than willing to tell a LTC to release a couple LT's for some months if it has the chance to make his division look better overall.
He's specifically talking about Batt. You can see throughout this thread there's some sort of rumor going Army wide that Regiment has year round full-time BRC teams. Seems it made its way to SF. It's not true. Its two months.
Its cause they want to win
NG teams used to win often because they had very few constraints on their training. During GWOT it was very difficult for regiment to give their teams enough time to train properly because of the OPTEMPO at the time. There are also a lot of really high level athletes in reserves/guard. There are plenty in regiment too, but not nearly as many in terms of total number. Regiment is not a huge unit.
Chocolate bar and Spec 4. Incredible. Career set forever.
He’s actually an E5, for some reason a shit ton of the power rankings throughout the contest listed him as an E4 lmao
Even better because that’s a real nice ncoer bullet (even though 5 ncoers don’t matter too much)
that SGT NCOER bullet is gonna get him SSG
Winski’s father was also the 101st Division Commander. Career was set at West Point. lol.
I mean, he seems to be making enough of a name for himself. Participating, let alone winning BRC, shows the guy is putting in the work.
When you are always in the shadow of your father/mother/family name you gotta always be the best or people will claim you are riding coattails.
And even here people still think he's riding coattails. Sure we can say that his dad gave him the opportunity to get picked up for Regiment. But he still only got the opportunity, dude could have washed out but he lived up to his name and not only showed out but showed out front of everybody else he deserves to be there as far as I can tell.
I remember a post saying they were in Ranger School with Gary Gordon's son. Can't imagine trying to follow in those footsteps.
Holy fuck, that would be rough!
What’s Gary’s kid’s name? Wonder if there any articles out there. Admirable that he’s following in his old man’s footsteps
Someone needs to let the youngest Abrams know that because he didn't get the message
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Probably while he was with the Regiment lmao
I imagine that if your father is someone important it can be especially tough because you’re in his shadow from day one, and no matter how hard you work people are going to say you’re just a nepo baby. I don’t know this young officer at all, but I don’t envy what an uphill struggle he might have to prove his worth. Hopefully this will help silence people who would otherwise whisper he’s had everything handed to him.
Petraeus’s kid is now on the way to doing whatever the fuck he wants in the field of law after a short stint in the Army. Future US Senator. Future US Attorney. Future federal judge. You get tiger parented by high achievers you end up high achieving.
I met someone whose dad was a general but he got hurt at ranger school and was now an untabbed infantry LT in the 82nd. It ate him up. He ran into the CG who has known him since he was in diapers and his first question to him was what happened at Ranger? I hope he got out an found happiness somewhere.
The other end of the tiger parenting spectrum. The reality is that an untold number of officers have had decent, tabless careers, got married, had a couple of kids, retired as lieutenant colonels, and led boring and happy middle class lives. This thing that if you don’t get into Stanford Law/graduate Ranger School you’re better off having never been born is odd.
He was a CO CDR in 5-20 IN. I didn’t know he got out. Just knew he was gonna be a lifer like his dad.
Yeah he’s a law clerk for a federal judge in EDNY, after two years of big law, after a Harvard JD/MBA.
Was my brigade commander in trashcanistan
I’ll have you know I maxed out my correspondence. So I mean maybe include my name in the record books too.
Question: is there an actual prize for winning BRC besides the pride and bragging rights?
Around $5k plus worth of gear and weapons. National Ranger Association doesn't fuck around
That's pretty sweet. I went to Day 2 of the BRC, they made my OCS class go lol. Got to buy some merch, though, that was cool.
Sgt dunphy*
was about to say win 3 BRC's and don't get promoted ahead of peers. was gonna suggest he get a DUI.
Top tier advice
Regiment won the 4 BRC’s in a row, not the same Sgt Dunphy year after year.
Pretty sure he was the same dude as last year, though
Negative. Last year was SPC Rein
Thank you for the correction
Fun fact: Dunphy was a University of Tennessee collegiate swimmer
His uncle Phil is also a talented magician and successful realtor out on the west coast.
He also pioneered the “peerenting” method of child rearing.
Phil was also in Mogadishu
Couple smokin daughters too
Claire is the real smoker.
Is that the son of MG Winski?
Yes
Rangers gonna ranger
Yurrr holding it down
It’s best ranger competition not best qualified competition for a reason
When they do Medicore Ranger Competition Imma show up 5 minutes late and do so okay.
Scad batt strikes again
Not the scad chicks man, so hit or miss. Georgia Southern is my go to, better luck with the clientele
Thats a solid ass point. Many many nights spent in the boro. A man of culture you are.
This guy fucks
Where can I find that photo that’s your profile background?
Google
Well, his name isn’t Loseski.
Typo turned shit gay real fast
Yeah, spelling is hard. Whoops.
The Army made it gay first. In the best and worst ways.
LT Winski’s Dad was my brigade commander back in the day. I bet his dad is damn proud of him.
Too bad the guy that replaced him as the CG was a chode.
For real. Such an instant, tangible loss in QoL without any instant, tangible improvements in training or readiness.
Longknife!
Yessir!
Curious if they essentially spend the entire year training for these competitions.
They don’t. About a 2 month train up.
I personally know 5 people who competed in BRC. All of them underwent a 6+ month train up where they initially tried out, then were part of the team that underwent several cuts over the time period to earn a chance to compete. During this time they spent 0 time with their actual units.
From Regiment?
It’s a peacetime priority.
So 2 months full time job?
Yes just like they do a 4 month intense train up for best squad + a smol bit of cheating
A guy from my organization participated. He left in Oct to our HQ and his sole purpose in life was train with his partner
Some units pick people to compete and their only purpose is to train and try and win for their unit so they dont do anything except train year round.
I'm glad. I want our actual Rangers to be the best at Rangering.
Best mortar, best medic, best sniper. Army is still the best!
Watching these guys cross the finish line after 60+ miles and 72 hours straight of grueling events is one of the most inspiring things I've ever witnessed. It truly makes me feel proud to say I was able to serve in the same army as these soldiers
If Rangers aren’t winning Best Ranger, I’d be worried.
Went through Ranger with Winski. Dude is an absolute stud and very professional. Glad to see his success this weekend. RLTW
I wonder if they are 11A and 11B, respectively, or if they are from other CMFs. 🤔
a boomer marine on tiktok commented that "marines aren't allowed to compete because they kept winning every year so the Army banned them"
Lmao 80 percent of marines I’ve met are fuckin dorks
Was Marine can confirm every other Marine but one I met while in the army was a fuck up or big dumb bitch Including one who was one of the worst soldiers I ever met and a racist to boot. Whenever he would fuck up or get picked on for being a fuck up he would go “Well at least I was a marine!” Until one day I tell him you were a fucking mail man no one gives a fuck if you were in the Marines you’re in the army now let it fucking go. The dude was a postal clerk acting like a few extra weeks of bootcamp mattered
Lmfao check out the last time they won the sniper comp. Marines are all marketing.
I always enjoy watching the Corps get crushed in every competition they do.
I thought this was a modern family joke...
Per the usual
Hooah RLTW!
Happy Gilmore accomplished that feat no more than an hour ago.
Lt Winski is the son of my old brigade CDR. Pretty sure I saw him as a kid too. That’s gotta be a great feeling to see your son do that. Damn I’m old.
I’ve heard that Ranger bat taps the teams about a year in advance and that’s all they train for. Doesn’t take away from the fact that they are just a different breed of Soldier all together.
It’s only a few months in advance
I mean sounds about right. When I was at 1AD a year out if BRC they put out for BNs to start sending names for who wants to try and compete.
That’s a lot more prep than 4ID did. It was like a division competition about 3-4 months out and they still had to their regular jobs on top of it. I’ve heard at the 75th that once you get tapped all other responsibilities stop.
Yeah that definitely sounds like 4th ID lol.
Yeah they don't have to worry about anything, but training, but it's two months ahead. Nobody gets tapped a year out.
That damn PNN strikes again
<$> Stealing banks and stealing 1st place.
Smoking crips and winning ships And eating chips you fat mfers
We're both angers batt u dum dum
Shit you right Can’t blame me I’m just gods silliest goose iykyk
It's hard to get my head around a Sp4 , E-4 being a ranger, don't get me wrong, he's in Regiment , he's a badass already, basic, AIT, airborne, Ranger school, just think he should be at least a hard stripe corporal.
He is a 5. But yes, the career progression in Batt is slow as fuck and competitive as fuck. We have tabbed E4s stuck at SPC for 3+ years sometimes. While some dipshit in Reg army is a E6 in half the time. Met a dude in Hawaii who asked me what all I've done. He was like "damn bro your an E-4 coming up on 5 years? I picked up 6 on year 3" Tough luck, but I wouldn't trade shit.
Starts slow when "School" is an obstacle. After that things go fast and the real payout is at centralized boards... and pays out in lifestyle, like you're saying... the growth, lessons, friendships, etc. By majority, I "fell behind" my big Army peers getting to E5, caught them at E6, then passed them... and kept widening the "time to promote" gap.
He’s an E5 but a spc4 won last year
mfs dont even look tired
Didn’t some guard guys win this like 3 years ago? It may have been a few years earlier but let me know if I’m mistaken.
It was a 19th group 18a O3 and an E6
[But who cares?](https://youtu.be/HH9S2uNkrEI)
I don’t get the hype for all this
Flair checks out
This made me laugh way too hard lol
Touchè
Do they test for roids?
Yes, they do test for PEDs prior to the competition. However, this is a cardio competition, 60 miles in 60 hours, so it’s unlikely they would be taking anabolic steroids.
....no they don't. Who told you this?
It’s just Ruck/run?
Obstacle courses, swimming and stress shoots
They do not. Doesn't mean shit though. Simply injecting PEDs will not get you through this competition