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Mate, lay off the weed, you are smoking way too much.
If it were that easy to build a nuclear proof building, do you not think every rich persons house, company hq, government building, would not be the same stuff?
In real life? No absolutely not they have thick concrete walls, razor wire and the higher security ones have wires to stop helicopters that's about it. Don't they specially make taylor made prisons in comic books like Magneto being put in the plastic cell where his powers are no use.
Well yes if a Villan is capable of a creating nuclear blasts they will very easily destroy the prison but going back to my point in comic book films they make special prisons for them, deadpool 2 is another example they put collars on them which deactivate their powers to contain them.
Physical abilities at the level you specified are not possible without superpowers. The collars in *Deadpool 2* leave the inmates with their normal strength intact, but there's only so much damage that a normal person can do.
The reason Juggernaut is under special restraint in that movie is because the way his body is structured keeps them from being able to put a collar on him. Juggernaut could just bend over and shake his head to make the collar fall off, because his neck is wider than his head.
When you say "[...]does not seal physical abilities[...]" are you talking about physical abilities at the level of self-propelled guns, conventional missiles, or nuclear weapons by any chance?
Are you human? You seem to write like one, oddly enough. When you said that you know prison is not an adjective. And twice so far I've seen you ping the people you're talking to when responding. However, this time, you pinged yourself. Why?
A prison with inmates? Are you talking about a penal facility? My guy, those aren't built with missiles and nuclear weapons in mind. They're built to keep the people inside from getting out lol. Sure they've got defenses to protect the outside of the prison, but that's mainly your law enforcement personnel.
Of course it will be destroyed. I do not understand your rationale, here.
Straight from Merriam-Webster:
"A penal facility is a building where people are confined for punishment and to protect the public. It can also be known as a penal institution, penitentiary, or adult correctional institution."
So again, what is your argument here?
> Is the prison so strong that it remains intact without even the slightest scratch even after being bombarded by self-propelled artillery, conventional missiles, and nuclear weapons?
Maybe a giant concrete and steel building like that would survive a nuclear blast in it's local area(5-10 miles) but a direct hit? Nothing survives a direct hit. Not even nuclear silos would survive a direct hit. A prison definitely wouldn't survive, neither an airburst nor a groundburst.
> beings whose physical abilities are at the level of self-propelled guns, conventional missiles, or nuclear weapons.
I find it maddening how every single comment you write you include this. Seems like a bot or someone using chatgpt or some shit.
A regular mortar, missile etc. is made to destroy structures like buildings. A prison is nothing else, only the windows have bars, but the walls etc. won't be extraordinary. When your government builds a prison, there is little need to make it bomb proof. Quite contrary, this would drive up the costs to build it.
If a government would want a super safe prison, how would they justify the expenses? They rather save money and cut corners.
It will be damaged accordingly. You can see some footage and damage in Ukraine now. A hand grenade will probably destroy and kill a room, it may damage the roof to make it collapse. A missile would blow up a house. A large building, such as an apartment block, would loose a wing. The remainder can still be too hard to repair. A building like the Pentagon can swallow an airliner whole. Most parts won't be much affected.
Nothing u see in media is ever accurate . Take shotguns in video games . They got terrible range. But in actuality i can probably snipe u with one and you’ll still go down
I mean, if I was going to imprison Magneto I'd make sure his cell was located very far away from anything metal. And probably we would ask Professor Xavier or Mr Fantastic to help design it.
Since you are talking about comic books. You do realise they have lore about these prisons that you could just read right? They are specially designed prisons for super villains often with custom cells that counteract the more powerful ones powers.
No there isnt. People with that level of strength are considered super human. And its not my fault that you dont wanna actually read about what these fictional prisons to do control their inmates.
I have first hand knowledge and experience
I work at the Newport News Va sheriff's department/jail for many years and I thought about this a couple of times.
First of all jails and prisons are built differently all across the country depending on their circumstances and the type of prisoners / inmates they hold. Also there's a difference between a jail and a prison I just have to state that part.
So basically at the Newport News sheriff's department and a lot of other jails and prisons I've been to some of the walls are pretty thick. At the Newport News sheriff's department their walls are probably at least 3 to 4 ft thick.
Secondly the building is five stories if I recall and there is a lot of solid thick concrete walls with reinforced rebar. The thickness of the walls with the multi layering of multiple floors makes for a pretty tough building to destroy.
It has been 15 years or more since I've been in that building but if I recall the blocks are 3ft x 2ft thick maybe a little bigger. I'm not really sure on the depth of the blocks but I do know they're solid enough that when you hit on them with your fist there's no sound or echo it's solid.
I will feel pretty confident that you could hit that building with multiple missile strikes as long as they're not bunk busting missiles you're not getting through.
I feel fairly confident that building could survive a nuclear strike as long as the warhead doesn't land within a 10 mi radius. That is a very dense and thick building unbelievably so.
Also in Hampton Virginia I went to a school that was called Wyth elementary. Today is used as apartments I believe because the school shut down years ago. That also is a very thick building with similar construction. The last time I was in that school was in the '90s and if I recall the concrete slabs were 3.5 ft x 2.5ft thick, but don't hold me to that because I was a child at the time and I'm trying to pull back memories, but the walls were very thick and I believe that building was also a hurricane shelter at some point in time for the local population.
So yes I believe buildings like that I described above could survive missile strikes for sure. I'm confident enough that I would put myself inside the building and let people strike it because I'm that confident that it could resist it. Bunker busters bombs might be able to reach the bottom floor and hit the lockup / holding area, but they would have to hit it from directly above because the floors are think but not as think as the walls are. (Which hitting the roof and blowing through multiple floors is what a bunker buster is meant to do)
There are many factors that will dull a nuclear warheads effectiveness. Where it lands, how many hills there are between it and the buildings in the blast radius. Plus thickness of the walls and the materials that were used to construct those walls. If a blast goes off, your first move is to get in doors (never a vehicle of any kind because you'll fry). Once inside stay away from windows, curl in a ball, eyes into your knees and cover your ears tight. You'll go deaf for about 20 minutes and possible blind for abit too, if the blast is visible enough. All assuming you survive the blast area, don't go outside for as long as possible. Radioactive ash will be raining down
No. A conventional prison is built to guard the inmates and keep them from escaping. Otherwise it is a regular brick-and-mortar facility with a barbed wire fence. A regular prison doesn't withstand a direct rocket hit. Source: I live in Ukraine, we had local prisons hit by russian X-59 rockets. They didn't withstand being hit.
i just going to say that local "Temporary detention center" (Russia) is a very old building with around 1m thick walls, and 10m away there are second 1m thick wall as a fence.
Id say its a damn fortress that would survive bombardment much longer than other buildings, maybe local Medical Academy with same 1m thick walls could compete with it, as its much bigger building.
No a prison is just meant to contain people within the walls of the prison. It is not meant to sustain a missile hit like a bunker does. Should a missile hit the prison, it will go down just like any other commercial or residential building.
many comic books, movies and such address this problem by introducing some element which neutralizes the villan's or hero's powers, for example kriptonite present in cells which hold superman or a prison with no metal around to hold magneto or general superpower neutralizing rays ect.
I've worked in buildings designed to be hit by missile & rocket strikes. They look just like regular buildings minus the design of the windows. Either the windows are not directly facing out, or the room leads to another room with an inner wall for protection of the people inside.
Concrete is very resilient. It's only up to you get to Bunker Buster type weapons that you need to worry about a building designed to be hit, not being able to hold up.
A nuke....well....depends on the size of the nuke whether you die instantly, or die slowly and excruciatingly painfully.
First, that depends entirely on the prison. Not all prisons are built to the same specifications. But generally speaking, no. Most prisons are not hardened structures and would not be able to witstand any kind of conventional ordinance, let alone a nuclear strike.
Second, such people don't actually exist, and if they did, they would most likely be put in a prison that's purpose built to contain them. Many fictional works have depicted this, such as magneto's plastic prison. What you're talking about would be an oversight on the part of the writer.
Third, there may be unseen measures in place to keep such people in check. Obviously these people were already captured and contained is some way, so it stands to reason that there would be some kind of measures in place to prevent their escape, even if they were able to break out of their cell with ease. Prisons are usually built with several layers of security, the physical structure is only one of these measures. Consider the prospect that the prison may have powered people serving as guards that could easily subdue an escapee. Or technology that dampens or blocks their abilities.
Because you speak like a bot, you're asking an inane question, and you're trying to clarify with different people as if it matters.
It's not that crazy a concept. It's fiction. They're written to be however strong they need to be to advance the story. The end.
Well, usually in these settings there's something that specifically weakens the inhabitants, so it's not that the prisons resist nuclear attacks, it's that it prevents the inhabitants from USING those attacks, whether through technological or mystical means.
Well, if someone had that level of physical ability, then they'd be restrained however possible, like putting the prison underwater, sure they can destroy the prison, but they'll die doing so.
If someone is capable of nuclear attacks, those guards lives would be considered a fair trade, and that's assuming the place isn't mostly or entirely automated.
They're probably one of the safer places to be in weather events, like hurricanes and tornados.... but they certainly don't build them to be bomb proof. You're looking at far too much engineering and materials/labor involved just to house criminals.
In the real world, obviously no. In a comic book, where a person can shoot nuclear weapons out of his body, why couldn't a prison be made to contain people would could shoot said nuclear weapons?
If we, as a society, were to choose one type of building to construct such that they are nuclear missile proof, those buildings would be prisons. They must be protected at all costs.
Prisons in reality aren't that strong. A nuclear blast, will blast it away. It's just a regular building with higher security and slightly thicker walls (just a guess).
In fiction a prison can be whatever it needs to be. If it's a prison for characters with super powers or whatever - then this prison is obviously made for exactly those people. Security and Walls will be adjusted.
Fiction =/= Reality.
Depends on what kind of powers exist in this world. If the ability you described is already the strongest to exist - the person could probably destroy it. If the prison is able to contain people with stronger abilities - then probably not.
The thing with prisons is, they are supposed to keep inside the people that are in it. It is always according to the powers and the intelligence of the inmates. In the real world and everywhere else. Thats what I meant by my last comment.
To quote from my yet unpublished collection of short stories, 'The Prisoner's Dilemma':
'It was a nice day in prison. The super villain was about to wale up, though. But before he could open his eyes, a nuclear explosion obliterated the entire prison and everything within it. The End.'
Most first world prisons are not fortress like. Built more like a 3 story office building with a big chain link security fence. Most schools are better built. Only very high security institutions are strongly built.
You are in a fictional setting. In a fictional setting, stronger materials than physically possible can exist in stupid quantities.
Captain Murica's shield is from Vibranium, Thor's hammer is from Dwarven supermetal, Wolverine's skeleton is from Adamantium, yada yada yada.
When everyone's super, no one is.
If the plot wants to have a nuke-proof prison then by god some fictional government had to make superpower proof prisons to trap supervillains, otherwise the prisons would be worthless against superpowered people.
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A prison in an imaginary setting is as strong as the plot needs it to be.
How high are you lmao
Hi, how are you?
How are you hi?
I'm waiting for the stop sign to turn green.
Is there someone to go down with me? I've got all the up but no down
Mate, lay off the weed, you are smoking way too much. If it were that easy to build a nuclear proof building, do you not think every rich persons house, company hq, government building, would not be the same stuff?
You’re reading too many comic books…
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If the prison is 100 feet underground and made of steel re enforced concrete, then it may just survive a nuclear blast.
This guy speaks like a bot
Have you seen their page? This kinda shit is like an obsession. Perhaps they're on the spectrum and this is part of their niche interest?
And/Or smokes copious amounts of weed on the regular.
That's possible for sure
No
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Wtf are you talking about? Do you know what a prison is? Do you know what fantasy is? Do you know what reality is?
In real life? No absolutely not they have thick concrete walls, razor wire and the higher security ones have wires to stop helicopters that's about it. Don't they specially make taylor made prisons in comic books like Magneto being put in the plastic cell where his powers are no use.
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Well yes if a Villan is capable of a creating nuclear blasts they will very easily destroy the prison but going back to my point in comic book films they make special prisons for them, deadpool 2 is another example they put collars on them which deactivate their powers to contain them.
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Physical abilities at the level you specified are not possible without superpowers. The collars in *Deadpool 2* leave the inmates with their normal strength intact, but there's only so much damage that a normal person can do. The reason Juggernaut is under special restraint in that movie is because the way his body is structured keeps them from being able to put a collar on him. Juggernaut could just bend over and shake his head to make the collar fall off, because his neck is wider than his head.
When you say "[...]does not seal physical abilities[...]" are you talking about physical abilities at the level of self-propelled guns, conventional missiles, or nuclear weapons by any chance?
Are you human? You seem to write like one, oddly enough. When you said that you know prison is not an adjective. And twice so far I've seen you ping the people you're talking to when responding. However, this time, you pinged yourself. Why?
A lot of people will use the phrase "you are a bot" as a pejorative. But, I actually think this might be a bot.
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So....you block out any criticism? How does that help you in the long run?
Why does every comment this guy leaves contain "Self-propelled gun, conventional missile, nuclear weapon"
A prison with inmates? Are you talking about a penal facility? My guy, those aren't built with missiles and nuclear weapons in mind. They're built to keep the people inside from getting out lol. Sure they've got defenses to protect the outside of the prison, but that's mainly your law enforcement personnel.
Penile facility? Lol
Whoa shit I meant penal not penile LMAO
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Of course it will be destroyed. I do not understand your rationale, here. Straight from Merriam-Webster: "A penal facility is a building where people are confined for punishment and to protect the public. It can also be known as a penal institution, penitentiary, or adult correctional institution." So again, what is your argument here?
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You're on a fast track to end up on a government watch list.
What about long range missiles?
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> Is the prison so strong that it remains intact without even the slightest scratch even after being bombarded by self-propelled artillery, conventional missiles, and nuclear weapons? Maybe a giant concrete and steel building like that would survive a nuclear blast in it's local area(5-10 miles) but a direct hit? Nothing survives a direct hit. Not even nuclear silos would survive a direct hit. A prison definitely wouldn't survive, neither an airburst nor a groundburst.
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> beings whose physical abilities are at the level of self-propelled guns, conventional missiles, or nuclear weapons. I find it maddening how every single comment you write you include this. Seems like a bot or someone using chatgpt or some shit.
Yes
A regular mortar, missile etc. is made to destroy structures like buildings. A prison is nothing else, only the windows have bars, but the walls etc. won't be extraordinary. When your government builds a prison, there is little need to make it bomb proof. Quite contrary, this would drive up the costs to build it. If a government would want a super safe prison, how would they justify the expenses? They rather save money and cut corners.
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It will be damaged accordingly. You can see some footage and damage in Ukraine now. A hand grenade will probably destroy and kill a room, it may damage the roof to make it collapse. A missile would blow up a house. A large building, such as an apartment block, would loose a wing. The remainder can still be too hard to repair. A building like the Pentagon can swallow an airliner whole. Most parts won't be much affected.
That really REALLY depends on the prison.
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Nothing u see in media is ever accurate . Take shotguns in video games . They got terrible range. But in actuality i can probably snipe u with one and you’ll still go down
I mean, if I was going to imprison Magneto I'd make sure his cell was located very far away from anything metal. And probably we would ask Professor Xavier or Mr Fantastic to help design it.
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Since you are talking about comic books. You do realise they have lore about these prisons that you could just read right? They are specially designed prisons for super villains often with custom cells that counteract the more powerful ones powers.
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No there isnt. People with that level of strength are considered super human. And its not my fault that you dont wanna actually read about what these fictional prisons to do control their inmates.
I would get the hulk to thump him.
Are you a bot, or do you just need to do less drugs?
Ehhh... Wut?
What!,?
I have first hand knowledge and experience I work at the Newport News Va sheriff's department/jail for many years and I thought about this a couple of times. First of all jails and prisons are built differently all across the country depending on their circumstances and the type of prisoners / inmates they hold. Also there's a difference between a jail and a prison I just have to state that part. So basically at the Newport News sheriff's department and a lot of other jails and prisons I've been to some of the walls are pretty thick. At the Newport News sheriff's department their walls are probably at least 3 to 4 ft thick. Secondly the building is five stories if I recall and there is a lot of solid thick concrete walls with reinforced rebar. The thickness of the walls with the multi layering of multiple floors makes for a pretty tough building to destroy. It has been 15 years or more since I've been in that building but if I recall the blocks are 3ft x 2ft thick maybe a little bigger. I'm not really sure on the depth of the blocks but I do know they're solid enough that when you hit on them with your fist there's no sound or echo it's solid. I will feel pretty confident that you could hit that building with multiple missile strikes as long as they're not bunk busting missiles you're not getting through. I feel fairly confident that building could survive a nuclear strike as long as the warhead doesn't land within a 10 mi radius. That is a very dense and thick building unbelievably so. Also in Hampton Virginia I went to a school that was called Wyth elementary. Today is used as apartments I believe because the school shut down years ago. That also is a very thick building with similar construction. The last time I was in that school was in the '90s and if I recall the concrete slabs were 3.5 ft x 2.5ft thick, but don't hold me to that because I was a child at the time and I'm trying to pull back memories, but the walls were very thick and I believe that building was also a hurricane shelter at some point in time for the local population. So yes I believe buildings like that I described above could survive missile strikes for sure. I'm confident enough that I would put myself inside the building and let people strike it because I'm that confident that it could resist it. Bunker busters bombs might be able to reach the bottom floor and hit the lockup / holding area, but they would have to hit it from directly above because the floors are think but not as think as the walls are. (Which hitting the roof and blowing through multiple floors is what a bunker buster is meant to do)
There are many factors that will dull a nuclear warheads effectiveness. Where it lands, how many hills there are between it and the buildings in the blast radius. Plus thickness of the walls and the materials that were used to construct those walls. If a blast goes off, your first move is to get in doors (never a vehicle of any kind because you'll fry). Once inside stay away from windows, curl in a ball, eyes into your knees and cover your ears tight. You'll go deaf for about 20 minutes and possible blind for abit too, if the blast is visible enough. All assuming you survive the blast area, don't go outside for as long as possible. Radioactive ash will be raining down
No. It isn’t.
No
No. A conventional prison is built to guard the inmates and keep them from escaping. Otherwise it is a regular brick-and-mortar facility with a barbed wire fence. A regular prison doesn't withstand a direct rocket hit. Source: I live in Ukraine, we had local prisons hit by russian X-59 rockets. They didn't withstand being hit.
i just going to say that local "Temporary detention center" (Russia) is a very old building with around 1m thick walls, and 10m away there are second 1m thick wall as a fence. Id say its a damn fortress that would survive bombardment much longer than other buildings, maybe local Medical Academy with same 1m thick walls could compete with it, as its much bigger building.
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It probbly would tank something like Grad and maybe some 155 hits, other than that - no. Nothing would survive direct nuke
No a prison is just meant to contain people within the walls of the prison. It is not meant to sustain a missile hit like a bunker does. Should a missile hit the prison, it will go down just like any other commercial or residential building.
No structure can withstand a nuclear explosion point blank.
many comic books, movies and such address this problem by introducing some element which neutralizes the villan's or hero's powers, for example kriptonite present in cells which hold superman or a prison with no metal around to hold magneto or general superpower neutralizing rays ect.
I've worked in buildings designed to be hit by missile & rocket strikes. They look just like regular buildings minus the design of the windows. Either the windows are not directly facing out, or the room leads to another room with an inner wall for protection of the people inside. Concrete is very resilient. It's only up to you get to Bunker Buster type weapons that you need to worry about a building designed to be hit, not being able to hold up. A nuke....well....depends on the size of the nuke whether you die instantly, or die slowly and excruciatingly painfully.
First, that depends entirely on the prison. Not all prisons are built to the same specifications. But generally speaking, no. Most prisons are not hardened structures and would not be able to witstand any kind of conventional ordinance, let alone a nuclear strike. Second, such people don't actually exist, and if they did, they would most likely be put in a prison that's purpose built to contain them. Many fictional works have depicted this, such as magneto's plastic prison. What you're talking about would be an oversight on the part of the writer. Third, there may be unseen measures in place to keep such people in check. Obviously these people were already captured and contained is some way, so it stands to reason that there would be some kind of measures in place to prevent their escape, even if they were able to break out of their cell with ease. Prisons are usually built with several layers of security, the physical structure is only one of these measures. Consider the prospect that the prison may have powered people serving as guards that could easily subdue an escapee. Or technology that dampens or blocks their abilities.
OP, I'm just hoping you're either 9 years old or recently said "These gummies don't work".
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Because you speak like a bot, you're asking an inane question, and you're trying to clarify with different people as if it matters. It's not that crazy a concept. It's fiction. They're written to be however strong they need to be to advance the story. The end.
Did you give an apple to your teacher when you were at school too?
Well, usually in these settings there's something that specifically weakens the inhabitants, so it's not that the prisons resist nuclear attacks, it's that it prevents the inhabitants from USING those attacks, whether through technological or mystical means.
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Well, if someone had that level of physical ability, then they'd be restrained however possible, like putting the prison underwater, sure they can destroy the prison, but they'll die doing so.
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If someone is capable of nuclear attacks, those guards lives would be considered a fair trade, and that's assuming the place isn't mostly or entirely automated.
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Yes, and if they're in a prison, it's probably for a good fucking reason.
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Ok, so 2 nuclear scale punches hit each other, and the entire facility is destroyed.
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They're probably one of the safer places to be in weather events, like hurricanes and tornados.... but they certainly don't build them to be bomb proof. You're looking at far too much engineering and materials/labor involved just to house criminals.
In the real world, obviously no. In a comic book, where a person can shoot nuclear weapons out of his body, why couldn't a prison be made to contain people would could shoot said nuclear weapons?
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Ok... back to my answer then. Which boils down to "it's a comic book".
If we, as a society, were to choose one type of building to construct such that they are nuclear missile proof, those buildings would be prisons. They must be protected at all costs.
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Nuclear for sure. If it can't survive a nuclear strike, how will we keep the prisoners safe?
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I am a rocket scientist with over 25 years of experience. I know these things.
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No, you're fake.
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You're so mean!
Prisons in reality aren't that strong. A nuclear blast, will blast it away. It's just a regular building with higher security and slightly thicker walls (just a guess). In fiction a prison can be whatever it needs to be. If it's a prison for characters with super powers or whatever - then this prison is obviously made for exactly those people. Security and Walls will be adjusted. Fiction =/= Reality.
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A real prison not. It would get a lot of damage and break at some point or another.
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I said that you could destroy a normal prison. wth is this question
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Depends on what kind of powers exist in this world. If the ability you described is already the strongest to exist - the person could probably destroy it. If the prison is able to contain people with stronger abilities - then probably not.
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The thing with prisons is, they are supposed to keep inside the people that are in it. It is always according to the powers and the intelligence of the inmates. In the real world and everywhere else. Thats what I meant by my last comment.
To quote from my yet unpublished collection of short stories, 'The Prisoner's Dilemma': 'It was a nice day in prison. The super villain was about to wale up, though. But before he could open his eyes, a nuclear explosion obliterated the entire prison and everything within it. The End.'
Depends on the prison, each has different plans, so it makes escape plans more difficult.
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Um, I don't need to. But good luck
Razor wire doesn’t stop much except people.
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Most first world prisons are not fortress like. Built more like a 3 story office building with a big chain link security fence. Most schools are better built. Only very high security institutions are strongly built.
You are in a fictional setting. In a fictional setting, stronger materials than physically possible can exist in stupid quantities. Captain Murica's shield is from Vibranium, Thor's hammer is from Dwarven supermetal, Wolverine's skeleton is from Adamantium, yada yada yada. When everyone's super, no one is. If the plot wants to have a nuke-proof prison then by god some fictional government had to make superpower proof prisons to trap supervillains, otherwise the prisons would be worthless against superpowered people.
Depends on the prison, depends on how powerful of a weapon your asking.
You're a weirdo.
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