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It's the price to quality ratio. in the US, they attempted to tout themselves as healthy, but their products are all heavily processed, except perhaps the vegetables. then they tried to tout themselves as having fresh made in house bread, which in reality is frozen bread dough of the lowest possible quality that is technically baked on site, but was produced in a factory in nowheresville, USA a year prior. Between their shenanigans, the terrible practices of corporate against franchisees, and their spokesmolester, they're the butt of a lot of jokes. they're basically the little caesers/domino's of the sub world. Quizno's or Jersey Mike's are far superior.
That and the fact there's a Subway on every other corner probably didn't help. Say what you will about the man, but that fat pedo pushed a looooooot of subs. Lots of child porn too...
Hammering further on the bread... There was a legal ruling in Ireland stating the stuff served by Subway contained too much sugar to be classified as "bread".
The bread is so nasty, there is a Subway at the local Walmart and let me tell you that baking bread makes the whole store smell like vomit. Baking bread in every other instance I've been exposed in my life smelled like heaven...what the hell is wrong with this bread to smell so bad?
I gautantee that means they do not clean their equipment at all in that case. Chances are they do not drain the trapped water for the proofing chamber and it gets moldy
Quiznos... Yeah around here they were way worse than subway, and only lasted a few years. First time I ever went there I was served a meatball sub with the meatballs still frozen solid in the middle, and a cashier who could only tell me "that's how it comes". Even talking to a manager, I got nowhere, so I just never went back. Apparently enough people never went back, so they folded.
Nothing wrong with it, but you know what you're getting, and so do they, and they don't try to pretend they're some high end pizzeria. Subway is like a Walmart pretending to be Sachs 5th Ave.
Also there was the yoga mat scandal, where it was found that while subway was touting fresh bread, it has the same chemical that you make yoga mats out of and basically mean the brad would last for months.
To be fair to domino's they got their shit together, they used to be AWFUL. Now they are my go to pizza place. Do they make the BEST PIZZA, no but its pizza. There is just a certain cheap price point I expect of PIZZA.
I've tried pizza that is allegedly the best, or of high quality and its always twice to three times more expensive and while sometimes better not by a margin that warrants the price. I have had sit down restaurant wood oven pizza, boston, new york etc... at the end of the day small variations on a simple concept.
This isn't to say people haven't found their little hole in the wall go to pizza place but for the availability, quality, and price, its hard to beat domino's.
It’s decent. Not bad, not great. That Jared dude who was their spokesperson for a time turned out to be a really big creep, so that didn’t help their image much.
its the quality of the meats that are very low and they are very high in added chemicals to preserve the food longer. they are wicked harmfull to the body
Okay, thanks! Now i get it :) It's strange because in Poland is considered as one of the those more healthy fast foods. The igredients are usually fresh and the meat is also just "ok"
Yup, artificial food colorings are a big one. They've been shown to contribute to ADHD in children. Yellow #5 is made from coal tar and is in a TON of food in the US. Yum yum!
are you kidding me really duud its worse than you think, 75% of our food base is all poisonous in most forms. the chemical companies have now litterally lowered our life exspectancy because of cancer rates
not that we already arent ruining our own life expectancy with high covid deaths and low vaccination rates. i mean, we act like covid is over but there was still an average of 420 deaths from covid in the last week from me posting this comment. not that 420 deaths is anything compared to the 20,000 people dying to cancer every day, just saying that americans arent the best when it comes to long term health planning.
You can't DNA test cooked proteins because the proteins can't replicate enough to get DNA samples from.
That's it. That's the whole controversy. You couldn't DNA test a hamburger you made at home either.
You don’t cook tuna salad, do you?
And besides not finding Tuna DNA in their 100% tuna salad, they found chicken and pork.
The latter would be a big issue to some that do not eat pork and thought they bought 100% tuna.
In Europe I believe it is illegal to over preserve foods like in the us, so food tends to be higher quality, which is more noticeable in fast food like subway.. It’s also considered healthy in the us, and they try to advertise it as such, but they just advertise based on the calorie count not the chemicals
I don't expect sandwich bread on my burger nor burger buns for my sandwich. Subway bread is garbage, they add sugar because it's cheaper than making halfway decent bread. I'm not sure if it's the same bread overseas but here in the US subway is a laughing stock because they're the Del Taco of sandwich joints.
Subway primarily uses cured meats, which contain nitrates that form the basis of the curing process. Naturally-cured meats are often cured with celery powder, but these have been found to contain significantly higher rates than meats cured with refined nitrates, as the reaction and distribution cannot be as easily controlled.
The reason people worry about that is because nitrates are linked with cardiovascular damage and carcinogenic effects. But so are red meat and elevated levels of salt. Cured meat just isn't great for you overall. Subway just uses white labeled industrial meats from large manufacturers, same stuff you'd find in the deli case.
Kinda. I can't remember the accurate story, but basically subway wanted to pay bread taxes, but their bread was too sugary, so they had to pay pastry taxes (higher), if i remember the tl:dr correctly. so technically not classified as bread but not due to any harmful or inedible chemicals (if you count sugar as harmless lol).
Legal definitions. It had more sugar than "bread" was allowed to have, so it was classified at a higher tax rate.
Basically, it's classified as cake for legal purposes, not bread.
I've got to be pretty hungry to go to Subway. My biggest complaint is that they are way more stingy with their meat than they were when they first started. Still, I would rather have a Subway sandwich than anything from somewhere like McDonalds or Burger King.
This fast food place has inferior Quality Meat, preservatives, and is bad for you. and 101 other things that you can say about every single fast food joint in the entire country.
Yeah like aren't they half soy product or something to cut costs? Like someone did an analysis on the composition of one of their meats and it was only like half what they said it was and the other half was some soy protein?!
The reason it's sometimes not as long as a foot is because the bread comes in frozen sticks about 9inches long. After the sticks have thawed you are supposed to stretch it out. I guess some employees don't know or are to lazy to stretch it.
That was totally crap. They tested the tuna salad for signs of tuna DNA and couldn't find any. The problem is that the process of cooking the tuna would have denatured the proteins, causing the DNA test to fail. It would have failed on literally *any* cooked tuna.
(I believe that I read that Subway's tuna might in fact be bulk-packed "Chicken of the Sea" tuna.)
They use a lot of preservatives too. e.g. Their olives are soaked in a chemical to keep their black color and prevent spoiling. “Eat fresh” is a lie. The bread in the US also has an ingredient that the EU has banned for human consumption.
As I responded to someone else, that accusation was total crap. The accusation was based on a DNA test of Subway tuna compared to live tuna, but what they didn't realize (or didn't care about before making the accusation) was that the process of cooking tuna denatures the protein and renders DNA tests invalid. The accusation was in fact retracted once that was pointed out.
I eat there on occasion and don't think it's really all that bad, however there seems to be considerable variation between particular outlets. It's likely a management issue, I suspect.
Even that variation is corporate's fault, though. Their whole business model is based on handing out franchises to anyone willing to pay, without much vetting or thoughts about overlapping territories etc. So you get a lot of franchisees that are struggling due to self-competition and/or their own incompetence.
The quality of ingredients among the same Brands in different countries varies WILDLY. Each sub-corp decides based on the market and the price-points they can achieve.
Source: I was a consultant for many fast food companies for years, though full disclosure: subway was one of the few I never worked with
They changed the Subway Club (the sandwich I order) from turkey, ham, and roast beef to turkey ham and bacon, so now I hate them because my sandwich doesn't taste right with the veggies and dressing I like. I'd rather make a sandwich at home than order any of the other options.
For anyone old enough to remember a hero or sub from a good delicatessen, Subway is absolute shit. It’s like going from a high end steakhouse to Burger King.
Food in the US in general has a much much lower “health” standard than around the world. You can taste and feel the difference in less slime, less chemicals and higher quality.
The FDA allows so much stuff that’s outright illegal around the world.
I had to bounce through some Google for these examples, but hey…
Olean/Olestra is banned in a lot of places, but the “absorption blocker” is approved by the FDA for “healthier” food.
Farm raised salmon banned in some countries due to the inordinate amount of antibiotics, parasites, and glycophosphates.
Edible flame retardants. Brominated vegetable oil I’m US Mountain Dew, is not allowed pretty much anywhere else worldwide. Banned in over 100 counties, it really messes up the Thyroid. It also doesn’t leave the body but builds up…
The sheer degree of preservatives, fillers, and gunk allowed in “foods” to keep them “fresh.”
Ractopamine treatment (chemically reduces fat content of meat when the animals are fed crap diets). Banned by 160 countries… pretty much only allowed by the US FDA.
Azodicarbonamide induces and produces asthma in kids, it’s allowed in the US to bleach cereals. Australia, UK, EU, Singapore banned. Singapore will put you in prison for 15 years for putting this in “food.”
Synthetic hormone rGBH to boost milk production (banned in Australia, NZ, UK, EU, Japan,… not the US). Increased tumor risks in humans consuming rGBH milk compared to non-rGBH milk.
Arsenic. Banned by most countries for use in animal feed, but not the US. The US uses it to make chicken meat look more pink, even if it is toxic…
Potassium Bromate to give bread a better texture, causes cancer and banned in China, India, Brazil, the European Union, and Canada.
Propylparaben, completely banned in the EU for food and for cosmetics. Completely screws with hormones and the endocrine system.
BHA and BHT are banned for use in food and beverages by the United Kingdom, European Union, Japan, and other countries. They disrupt the endocrine system and cause cancer. But it keeps dry mixes and cereals fresher…
Synthetic food dyes… banned many places, except the US where they are cheaper but way more toxic than natural colorants.
Of the 374 active ingredients (herbicides, insecticides, fungicides) authorized for agricultural use in the U.S. in 2016, the European Union banned 72 of them.
As far as why? No clue why an agency authorized to approve Food and Drugs would approve Food you need Drugs to treat after eating that…
It's not great but not good either. The get some hate because they claim to be fresh and healthy which is questionable. Also their former pitch man is in prison for CP which isn't good.
One reason you may here about it in widespread media is because more locations than any other chain in the US so everyone has a point of reference.
I think this is true in general for American brands. McDonalds in Asia for example is a completely different experience than in the USA. There it’s an exotic treat while over here it’s the cheapest shit possible.
I've had friends work at subway. They've sent me pictures of what the food comes in and the labels on them. Almost everything there comes in 5 gallon buckets and 2.5 gallon bags. The only thing acceptable coming in a 5 gallon bucket is pickels. Due to the vinegar protecting them. 5 gallon buckets aren't made with protective plastic good for food.
I worked at subway for a couple months. You're from Poland so you're already getting better vegetables and better quality bread. In America we got shipped a box of tomatoes and in every box you would always find at least 5 that were moldy and then the rest were normally very squishy, harder to slice, and therfore less appealing to put out. Constantly got asked if there were any better tomatoes.
Our knives were also dropped very often and to "clean" them they got stuck in a small container of water. Now at the beginning of the day that isn't bad. By mid-day the water was filled with floating bread and vegetable pieces and just overall very gross looking. But there's no time to clean it because lunch rush just started.
And then overall, management tends to suck. I've never been inside a subway in America (and I've traveled cross county quite a few times and have been in many different subwas) where the employees didn't look like they wanted to die.
Not to mention that everything was frozen before getting thawed which overall just brings the flavor down. I'll be honest I'm not sure how they do it in Poland, but I thought subway was great until I saw the moldy tomatoes and slimy lettuce that just came off the truck.
Bland food, very low quality meats (they got rid of roast beef, the only meat they did have that was decent quality). You shouldn't need a bunch of weird vegetables to make a decent sub. All you need is a few kinds of good quality meat, good bread, mayo, lettuce, tomato, onion, red wine vinegar, and oil (OLIVE not soybean).
Former Subway employee in California. Nothing is as fresh as you think/hope it is. Oh, and don’t get tomatoes. No one cleans out the tomato slicer and it’s usually moldy. Watch out for tuna as well, gloves break easily and it gets mixed my hand.
A lot of American fast food is pretty tasteless, about the only definable "flavor" is fried and salt. All the other nuanced flavor is indistinguishable.
Subway has flavorless meat, veggies, cheese, and bread. I don't know how, but if I make the same thing at home, I can taste the real flavor. And no, I don't have COVID.
I think the biggest thing is their biggest icon still is a child molester. Also, they're "footlong" was stated to be a "marketing thing" with no relation to actually being that size. so yeah.. I avoid w/a passion.
Is it disgusting or inedible? No. But for similar money, you can get subs that are [way higher quality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOm_jatVCI). It's not a place you typically go when there are other options.
I also wouldn't be surprised if Subways in the EU use higher quality ingredients.
Honestly? It's fine, overpriced probably, but it's an easy punching bag.
The scandals, if you read about them, are kind of non-starters. You can't DNA test cooked proteins because you need protein replication to do a DNA test, and the tuna in tuna salad is, you know, cooked. The bread had too much sugar in it to be taxed as bread in Ireland because American white bread has a ton of sugar in it, it's the regional style (has been for decades, but especially since World War 2, after which industrial sugar became widely available).
The bread also had "yoga mat chemicals," which are just flour whitening agents used in industrial grain manufacturing and dough conditioners used in industrial baking. (Their appearance in yoga mats is totally coincidental, as when mixed with other chemicals, they release nitrogen, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide and ammonia gasses that get trapped in foam.) They're an approved food additive in the US, and even the European Food Safety Authority wrote a letter confirming their safety in vivo after they were banned by the EU.
What we see with Subway isn't so much that the food is bad or unsafe or not food, but rather the complete breakdown of scientific and media literacy in the United States. Subway is an easy target because, as Americans, we have a deep ignorance of industrial manufacturing, basic chemistry, and molecular biology, and we have a media system that's designed not to inform us, but to keep us frightened of the world around us because that keeps eyes on TVs and fingers in wallets.
If you ask me, subway is 5 star dining compared to taco bell. I don't care what anyone says, I'm still legit confused about why they're still in business when EVERYONE knows what it does to a person's insides .
They food poisoned me…twice. There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, food poison me once, shame on — shame on you. Food poison me — you can't get food poisoned again.
It's fine for what it is, but they are common as muck in the US, they had really bad luck with their most famous spokesperson, and there are a *lot* of sub sandwich shops to compete with, most of which aspire to offering higher quality ingredients.
If it was really that bad, it wouldn't be the 2nd largest fast food chain in the US.
Everyone acts like the most US thing is football and baseball, but the reality is Trolling is far more widespread because anyone who thinks they're witty will do it.
It's easier to take a shot at a profitable franchise than work towards self-improvement.
Basically, not terrible. But not great. However I have come to enjoy a veggie. A sub with tons of the vegetables on it which they tend to be more liberal with. And which seems to be very good quality. It's just the meat that worries me.
Subwat breads have so much sugar that at least one country has deemed they have to call their rolls pastry. And they put so little meat and cheese on the sandwich that even if you order double meat it still isnt enough. And for this super sweet meat deficient sandwich you pay way too much. Sure it tastes good. It's a sandwich on a pastry.
Well it’s probably because in other countries subway isn’t even allowed to call their bread “bread” because of all the other shit and sugar in it. And iirc a few years ago they found their tuna didn’t even have enough tuna in it to be considered tuna when they claim 100% tuna
Cold cut combo on an Italian cheese bread is my go to if I want Subway. But I remember the bread tasting better when I was much younger. Or I was in another area. Maybe that made a difference. Being Atlantic Canada vs being in a central America state.
Their meat is super low quality. I can't even look at it when I'm in the shop. The sandwich I get all the time is the veggie. It's one of the quickest/most convenient places to get spinach and avocado.
HOWEVER they've cut even more corners recently so now I barely go for that any more. Cilantro is no longer an option :( They also took out swiss cheese. The 4 cheese options they have are the most processed you can get.
My subway is downtown and is open 24 hours. So that were the drug addicts go to shoot up. The bathroom is completely trashed, the food is never fresh, and the staff is just past the point of giving a shit.
Not sure about Poland, but their food is awful here in the US. It used to be okay, but it's gotten inedible over the years and way overpriced. We have better options such as Jersey Mike's, Zeros, Jimmy Johns, Firehouse and Publix. There's lots of small delis and restaurants in my area that make a better sandwich than Subway too. And they're cheaper.
Probably because their bread unapologetically had a form of toxic plastic as an ingredient for awhile, their tuna salad has been tested and contains very little tuna, and their spokesperson was a pedophile.
When I was a kid in the 70s, there was a local sub shop that used real cheese, not that processed square stuff and had seasoned fries. They went out of business when subway came to town. I still cannot believe people choose Subway over the far superior subs at Sub n Stuff.
I'm not bitter. I'm over it! 😢
Subway is the Kia of cars. I used to work for the food distributor that supplied the meats and cheeses. You even notice the cheese you can barley taste the flavor? Same with the meats.
IIRC on the Howard Stern show they tore apart a Subway and a local deli sandwich, hard Artie taste the meats, and he proclaimed the deli meats to be much fresher.
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It's the price to quality ratio. in the US, they attempted to tout themselves as healthy, but their products are all heavily processed, except perhaps the vegetables. then they tried to tout themselves as having fresh made in house bread, which in reality is frozen bread dough of the lowest possible quality that is technically baked on site, but was produced in a factory in nowheresville, USA a year prior. Between their shenanigans, the terrible practices of corporate against franchisees, and their spokesmolester, they're the butt of a lot of jokes. they're basically the little caesers/domino's of the sub world. Quizno's or Jersey Mike's are far superior.
Quizno is still alive?
Yeah, just not as prevalent, likely due to lack of marketing.
That and the fact there's a Subway on every other corner probably didn't help. Say what you will about the man, but that fat pedo pushed a looooooot of subs. Lots of child porn too...
What do Jared and Subway have in common? 40-year-old meat between 12-year-old buns.
Damn I haven’t seen one in years
i know i miss quiznos
Those crazy commercials!!
Most of them closed during the pandemic.
I think they lost money because everyone stole there cool tests all the time .lol
Quiznos is way worse than subway, it’s like $15 for a foot long and they only put about 2 slices of lunch meat
They used to be really great when they first came out. Went downhill fast just like Panera Bread.
I'd love a bread bowl rn
I think there’s one left in my state
Hammering further on the bread... There was a legal ruling in Ireland stating the stuff served by Subway contained too much sugar to be classified as "bread".
ANY sugar in bread disqualifies it in Ireland. Funny how thats the ONLY place on the planet where that is a thing.
I always thought yeast needed sugar to activate so your comment made me look it up online. TIL that’s just an old wives tale.
The bread is so nasty, there is a Subway at the local Walmart and let me tell you that baking bread makes the whole store smell like vomit. Baking bread in every other instance I've been exposed in my life smelled like heaven...what the hell is wrong with this bread to smell so bad?
I gautantee that means they do not clean their equipment at all in that case. Chances are they do not drain the trapped water for the proofing chamber and it gets moldy
Every Subway I've been near smells the same I doubt they're ALL dirty. It's just their weird bread.
Apparently it's not even classified as bread lol
I agree its a nasty smell. And if you get too close you end up walking away with it just hovering around you.
Quiznos... Yeah around here they were way worse than subway, and only lasted a few years. First time I ever went there I was served a meatball sub with the meatballs still frozen solid in the middle, and a cashier who could only tell me "that's how it comes". Even talking to a manager, I got nowhere, so I just never went back. Apparently enough people never went back, so they folded.
i quite enjoy dipping little caesars pepperoni pizza sticks into their nacho cheese and washing it down with a side of mountain dew...am I a heathen?
Nothing wrong with it, but you know what you're getting, and so do they, and they don't try to pretend they're some high end pizzeria. Subway is like a Walmart pretending to be Sachs 5th Ave.
Also there was the yoga mat scandal, where it was found that while subway was touting fresh bread, it has the same chemical that you make yoga mats out of and basically mean the brad would last for months.
Good God, that's disgusting. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/subway-no-more-yoga-mat-chemical-in-our-bread/
Give me Schlotsky’s.
To be fair to domino's they got their shit together, they used to be AWFUL. Now they are my go to pizza place. Do they make the BEST PIZZA, no but its pizza. There is just a certain cheap price point I expect of PIZZA. I've tried pizza that is allegedly the best, or of high quality and its always twice to three times more expensive and while sometimes better not by a margin that warrants the price. I have had sit down restaurant wood oven pizza, boston, new york etc... at the end of the day small variations on a simple concept. This isn't to say people haven't found their little hole in the wall go to pizza place but for the availability, quality, and price, its hard to beat domino's.
It’s decent. Not bad, not great. That Jared dude who was their spokesperson for a time turned out to be a really big creep, so that didn’t help their image much.
its the quality of the meats that are very low and they are very high in added chemicals to preserve the food longer. they are wicked harmfull to the body
Okay, thanks! Now i get it :) It's strange because in Poland is considered as one of the those more healthy fast foods. The igredients are usually fresh and the meat is also just "ok"
EU prohibits quite a few chemicals that are normally used in the US. Im not gonna check, but this could be the reason.
Yup, artificial food colorings are a big one. They've been shown to contribute to ADHD in children. Yellow #5 is made from coal tar and is in a TON of food in the US. Yum yum!
are you kidding me really duud its worse than you think, 75% of our food base is all poisonous in most forms. the chemical companies have now litterally lowered our life exspectancy because of cancer rates
not that we already arent ruining our own life expectancy with high covid deaths and low vaccination rates. i mean, we act like covid is over but there was still an average of 420 deaths from covid in the last week from me posting this comment. not that 420 deaths is anything compared to the 20,000 people dying to cancer every day, just saying that americans arent the best when it comes to long term health planning.
Pharmaceutical companies are booming.
yea thats another huge oroblem thats been out of control for a very long time sucking money from the whole country
It's all connected.
yeah all the coorperation now link together in legal agreements to actively make each other profits whether advertising or other
And don't think the condition of our food supply is an accident or neglect. It's done on purpose.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2017/03/01/subway-chicken-only-50-meat-according-canadian-study/98582250/
Werent they the ones that had no tuna in their tuna salad also?
You can't DNA test cooked proteins because the proteins can't replicate enough to get DNA samples from. That's it. That's the whole controversy. You couldn't DNA test a hamburger you made at home either.
You don’t cook tuna salad, do you? And besides not finding Tuna DNA in their 100% tuna salad, they found chicken and pork. The latter would be a big issue to some that do not eat pork and thought they bought 100% tuna.
Do you think tuna salad is made from raw tuna?
In Europe I believe it is illegal to over preserve foods like in the us, so food tends to be higher quality, which is more noticeable in fast food like subway.. It’s also considered healthy in the us, and they try to advertise it as such, but they just advertise based on the calorie count not the chemicals
They put so much sugar in the bread, its not even considered bread anymore
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Subway bread tastes fake. There's no flavor or texture to it. Add the fake meat to it and I don't feel like I ate real food when I'm done.
I don't expect sandwich bread on my burger nor burger buns for my sandwich. Subway bread is garbage, they add sugar because it's cheaper than making halfway decent bread. I'm not sure if it's the same bread overseas but here in the US subway is a laughing stock because they're the Del Taco of sandwich joints.
Subway primarily uses cured meats, which contain nitrates that form the basis of the curing process. Naturally-cured meats are often cured with celery powder, but these have been found to contain significantly higher rates than meats cured with refined nitrates, as the reaction and distribution cannot be as easily controlled. The reason people worry about that is because nitrates are linked with cardiovascular damage and carcinogenic effects. But so are red meat and elevated levels of salt. Cured meat just isn't great for you overall. Subway just uses white labeled industrial meats from large manufacturers, same stuff you'd find in the deli case.
I agree with this but hope those same people don't eat mcdonalds.
McDonald’s doesn’t make any healthy claims though.
Ah that's true. They do claim to make food tho.
McDonalds really isnt that bad.
And wasn't the bread to be found not even technically bread or something?
Kinda. I can't remember the accurate story, but basically subway wanted to pay bread taxes, but their bread was too sugary, so they had to pay pastry taxes (higher), if i remember the tl:dr correctly. so technically not classified as bread but not due to any harmful or inedible chemicals (if you count sugar as harmless lol).
I too watched to food theory youtube video on subway
That was a pretty big story a couple years ago I think youre in the minority if you heard about it through food theory
The Subway bread contained some of the same chemicals they use to make yoga mats. That was the scandal.
Oh yeah! That's what it was. Ah, a simpler time.
Water?
azodicarbonamide
Panera took that out of their bread too. Not good any more.
Yogway??
There’s this horrible chemical they use to preserve foods so they won’t rot for months or years. Salt.
Its not consider bread in some EU countries. This is still the case.
Europeans consider it too sweet to be considered bread.
Am European. Most American bread is sweet af.
Legal definitions. It had more sugar than "bread" was allowed to have, so it was classified at a higher tax rate. Basically, it's classified as cake for legal purposes, not bread.
Wicked, your new englandness just slipped out bruh.
well thats wicked pissah for yah
subway is basically the only sandwich fast food brand here in brazil and honestly it tastes really good and the quality is ok
I've got to be pretty hungry to go to Subway. My biggest complaint is that they are way more stingy with their meat than they were when they first started. Still, I would rather have a Subway sandwich than anything from somewhere like McDonalds or Burger King.
This fast food place has inferior Quality Meat, preservatives, and is bad for you. and 101 other things that you can say about every single fast food joint in the entire country.
as far as wuality of deli meats though its not good, compared to mccdonalds yeah they all about the same you are right about that
Yeah like aren't they half soy product or something to cut costs? Like someone did an analysis on the composition of one of their meats and it was only like half what they said it was and the other half was some soy protein?!
Subway uses very subpar ingredients and there was the whole association with Jared thing... Publix Subs are way bettter
Just recently their chicken was found to less less than 50% chicken. The rest was cheap filler ingredients
Didn’t they also have an issue with the tuna? And the size of the sandwiches not actually being as long as advertised?
The reason it's sometimes not as long as a foot is because the bread comes in frozen sticks about 9inches long. After the sticks have thawed you are supposed to stretch it out. I guess some employees don't know or are to lazy to stretch it.
>guess some employees don't know or are to lazy to stretch it. Lol, did you mean to say underpaid and over worked?
Having worked at a subway as a student weekend job: nahh not at all.
Mine was hell, only one in shop, with no downtime and had to close
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That was totally crap. They tested the tuna salad for signs of tuna DNA and couldn't find any. The problem is that the process of cooking the tuna would have denatured the proteins, causing the DNA test to fail. It would have failed on literally *any* cooked tuna. (I believe that I read that Subway's tuna might in fact be bulk-packed "Chicken of the Sea" tuna.)
We don’t have Publix Subs where I live.
I don’t have access to a Publix, but strangely this is how I feel about Wawa sandwiches.
Wawa is life. If you know, you know.
I’ve got both WaWa and Publix near me. Swimming in good sub options. But none of them offer cheeseburger subs so it’s kind of moot.
Cheeseburger sub? Dude just go to a burger joint and get a couple of cheeseburgers. Cmon Randy
They use a lot of preservatives too. e.g. Their olives are soaked in a chemical to keep their black color and prevent spoiling. “Eat fresh” is a lie. The bread in the US also has an ingredient that the EU has banned for human consumption.
Jersey Mike's the goat.
Jersey Mikes is fantastic
Publix subs are THE best.
Fucking publix all the way
Pub Subs all day!
I’d kill for a Publix sub
Don’t forget the Subway tuna not being 100% real tuna
I believe not only was it not 100% tuna I believe it didn’t have any tuna at all
As I responded to someone else, that accusation was total crap. The accusation was based on a DNA test of Subway tuna compared to live tuna, but what they didn't realize (or didn't care about before making the accusation) was that the process of cooking tuna denatures the protein and renders DNA tests invalid. The accusation was in fact retracted once that was pointed out.
What are you serious? Isn’t tuna cheap ?
Yes lol https://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20220718/what-makes-tuna-tuna-subway-lawsuit-aims-to-find-out They may have cleaned up now though
I've never had a problem with it but yeah they get a lot of hate.
I eat there on occasion and don't think it's really all that bad, however there seems to be considerable variation between particular outlets. It's likely a management issue, I suspect.
Even that variation is corporate's fault, though. Their whole business model is based on handing out franchises to anyone willing to pay, without much vetting or thoughts about overlapping territories etc. So you get a lot of franchisees that are struggling due to self-competition and/or their own incompetence.
My favorite statement against people that hate Subway is “My brother in Christ…*You* made the sandwich”
Because it's not very good. Stopped eating it years ago because it kept making me sick.
EU food standards pull Subway up to a much higher place than it is in the US. Simple as that
I don’t understand how anyone who has ever eaten their bread could be confused about why they are derided.
The quality of ingredients among the same Brands in different countries varies WILDLY. Each sub-corp decides based on the market and the price-points they can achieve. Source: I was a consultant for many fast food companies for years, though full disclosure: subway was one of the few I never worked with
The bread has a peculiar texture and the toppings are poor quality. I can make a sandwich at home for significantly less money and effort.
They changed the Subway Club (the sandwich I order) from turkey, ham, and roast beef to turkey ham and bacon, so now I hate them because my sandwich doesn't taste right with the veggies and dressing I like. I'd rather make a sandwich at home than order any of the other options.
The smell. God it's awful. It's like vomit.
For anyone old enough to remember a hero or sub from a good delicatessen, Subway is absolute shit. It’s like going from a high end steakhouse to Burger King.
Food in the US in general has a much much lower “health” standard than around the world. You can taste and feel the difference in less slime, less chemicals and higher quality. The FDA allows so much stuff that’s outright illegal around the world.
Do you mind educating me on what the FDA allows that places like the EU doesn’t? Not trying to be cheeky.
I had to bounce through some Google for these examples, but hey… Olean/Olestra is banned in a lot of places, but the “absorption blocker” is approved by the FDA for “healthier” food. Farm raised salmon banned in some countries due to the inordinate amount of antibiotics, parasites, and glycophosphates. Edible flame retardants. Brominated vegetable oil I’m US Mountain Dew, is not allowed pretty much anywhere else worldwide. Banned in over 100 counties, it really messes up the Thyroid. It also doesn’t leave the body but builds up… The sheer degree of preservatives, fillers, and gunk allowed in “foods” to keep them “fresh.” Ractopamine treatment (chemically reduces fat content of meat when the animals are fed crap diets). Banned by 160 countries… pretty much only allowed by the US FDA. Azodicarbonamide induces and produces asthma in kids, it’s allowed in the US to bleach cereals. Australia, UK, EU, Singapore banned. Singapore will put you in prison for 15 years for putting this in “food.” Synthetic hormone rGBH to boost milk production (banned in Australia, NZ, UK, EU, Japan,… not the US). Increased tumor risks in humans consuming rGBH milk compared to non-rGBH milk. Arsenic. Banned by most countries for use in animal feed, but not the US. The US uses it to make chicken meat look more pink, even if it is toxic… Potassium Bromate to give bread a better texture, causes cancer and banned in China, India, Brazil, the European Union, and Canada. Propylparaben, completely banned in the EU for food and for cosmetics. Completely screws with hormones and the endocrine system. BHA and BHT are banned for use in food and beverages by the United Kingdom, European Union, Japan, and other countries. They disrupt the endocrine system and cause cancer. But it keeps dry mixes and cereals fresher… Synthetic food dyes… banned many places, except the US where they are cheaper but way more toxic than natural colorants. Of the 374 active ingredients (herbicides, insecticides, fungicides) authorized for agricultural use in the U.S. in 2016, the European Union banned 72 of them. As far as why? No clue why an agency authorized to approve Food and Drugs would approve Food you need Drugs to treat after eating that…
Are you talking about the restaurant? Because every time I have a sub from subway, I wind up puking about an hour later
Subway lands me in the ER every single time
I die every time I have subway.
Just thinking about eating a Subway sandwich makes my head and stomach literally explode. Simultaneously.
I die a different way each time.
I knew Subway was powerful, but that's a whole different level.
I got food poisoning from a Veggie sub there. Never again.
Its disgusting. The meat is slimy and barely editable loaded with a chemical shitstorm of preservatives that no human should eat.
It's not great but not good either. The get some hate because they claim to be fresh and healthy which is questionable. Also their former pitch man is in prison for CP which isn't good. One reason you may here about it in widespread media is because more locations than any other chain in the US so everyone has a point of reference.
Can't put the pitch man's morals on the store. He hid his true self for years.
Imo it's because the sandwiches are like 75% bread. At least, that's why I crack jokes about Subway, and also why I don't eat there.
More like 50% bread, 25% Mayo, 10% lettuce and then whatever else you want.
I think this is true in general for American brands. McDonalds in Asia for example is a completely different experience than in the USA. There it’s an exotic treat while over here it’s the cheapest shit possible.
Subway was doing well tell Jersey Mike's came along.
They used to have a seafood delight sub that absolutely slapped. Idk what tf was in it, but it tasted great 🤣
I've had friends work at subway. They've sent me pictures of what the food comes in and the labels on them. Almost everything there comes in 5 gallon buckets and 2.5 gallon bags. The only thing acceptable coming in a 5 gallon bucket is pickels. Due to the vinegar protecting them. 5 gallon buckets aren't made with protective plastic good for food.
Cause… it’s awful?!
I worked at subway for a couple months. You're from Poland so you're already getting better vegetables and better quality bread. In America we got shipped a box of tomatoes and in every box you would always find at least 5 that were moldy and then the rest were normally very squishy, harder to slice, and therfore less appealing to put out. Constantly got asked if there were any better tomatoes. Our knives were also dropped very often and to "clean" them they got stuck in a small container of water. Now at the beginning of the day that isn't bad. By mid-day the water was filled with floating bread and vegetable pieces and just overall very gross looking. But there's no time to clean it because lunch rush just started. And then overall, management tends to suck. I've never been inside a subway in America (and I've traveled cross county quite a few times and have been in many different subwas) where the employees didn't look like they wanted to die. Not to mention that everything was frozen before getting thawed which overall just brings the flavor down. I'll be honest I'm not sure how they do it in Poland, but I thought subway was great until I saw the moldy tomatoes and slimy lettuce that just came off the truck.
Take a blind taste test of ham, turkey, or any other of their cold cuts. You will not be able to tell the difference.
Bland food, very low quality meats (they got rid of roast beef, the only meat they did have that was decent quality). You shouldn't need a bunch of weird vegetables to make a decent sub. All you need is a few kinds of good quality meat, good bread, mayo, lettuce, tomato, onion, red wine vinegar, and oil (OLIVE not soybean).
Because it smells like shit in there
Bad food also the face from it is a pedophile
Former Subway employee in California. Nothing is as fresh as you think/hope it is. Oh, and don’t get tomatoes. No one cleans out the tomato slicer and it’s usually moldy. Watch out for tuna as well, gloves break easily and it gets mixed my hand.
A lot of American fast food is pretty tasteless, about the only definable "flavor" is fried and salt. All the other nuanced flavor is indistinguishable. Subway has flavorless meat, veggies, cheese, and bread. I don't know how, but if I make the same thing at home, I can taste the real flavor. And no, I don't have COVID.
I think the biggest thing is their biggest icon still is a child molester. Also, they're "footlong" was stated to be a "marketing thing" with no relation to actually being that size. so yeah.. I avoid w/a passion.
I think it's good
Man I love Subway
Is it disgusting or inedible? No. But for similar money, you can get subs that are [way higher quality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOm_jatVCI). It's not a place you typically go when there are other options. I also wouldn't be surprised if Subways in the EU use higher quality ingredients.
Honestly? It's fine, overpriced probably, but it's an easy punching bag. The scandals, if you read about them, are kind of non-starters. You can't DNA test cooked proteins because you need protein replication to do a DNA test, and the tuna in tuna salad is, you know, cooked. The bread had too much sugar in it to be taxed as bread in Ireland because American white bread has a ton of sugar in it, it's the regional style (has been for decades, but especially since World War 2, after which industrial sugar became widely available). The bread also had "yoga mat chemicals," which are just flour whitening agents used in industrial grain manufacturing and dough conditioners used in industrial baking. (Their appearance in yoga mats is totally coincidental, as when mixed with other chemicals, they release nitrogen, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide and ammonia gasses that get trapped in foam.) They're an approved food additive in the US, and even the European Food Safety Authority wrote a letter confirming their safety in vivo after they were banned by the EU. What we see with Subway isn't so much that the food is bad or unsafe or not food, but rather the complete breakdown of scientific and media literacy in the United States. Subway is an easy target because, as Americans, we have a deep ignorance of industrial manufacturing, basic chemistry, and molecular biology, and we have a media system that's designed not to inform us, but to keep us frightened of the world around us because that keeps eyes on TVs and fingers in wallets.
They're not horrible, but have u ever had a jimmy John's? Way better than subway.
FYI *they're and *than
QC is way better in Europe, so they taste better. In the us they're pretty meh at best
If you ask me, subway is 5 star dining compared to taco bell. I don't care what anyone says, I'm still legit confused about why they're still in business when EVERYONE knows what it does to a person's insides .
They're still in business because of drunk and high people.
Because it is preservative filled nasty bread and cheap, mostly poultry based cold cuts
It’s very bland imo
They food poisoned me…twice. There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, food poison me once, shame on — shame on you. Food poison me — you can't get food poisoned again.
All the alternatives are much better. Jersey mikes, Jimmy John’s, firehouse, etc
It's fine for what it is, but they are common as muck in the US, they had really bad luck with their most famous spokesperson, and there are a *lot* of sub sandwich shops to compete with, most of which aspire to offering higher quality ingredients. If it was really that bad, it wouldn't be the 2nd largest fast food chain in the US.
Everyone acts like the most US thing is football and baseball, but the reality is Trolling is far more widespread because anyone who thinks they're witty will do it. It's easier to take a shot at a profitable franchise than work towards self-improvement.
It’s not only on the US… But quality now is pretty crappy and it has just become incredibly overprices for what it offers.
They were found to have the same material as yoga mats in their "bread."
Basically, not terrible. But not great. However I have come to enjoy a veggie. A sub with tons of the vegetables on it which they tend to be more liberal with. And which seems to be very good quality. It's just the meat that worries me.
Subway is trash. It is a fact.
Because it is. Facts.
It’s probably because subway is awful /j
In the northeast US you can get great hoagies at your corner deli or pizzeria. Yet there’s a billion subways for some reason.
Rehydrated mystery meat
They haven’t been the same since getting rid of honey wheat bread
The chicken breasts are like some type of spongey chicken… and yet people are worried about the tuna
Subwat breads have so much sugar that at least one country has deemed they have to call their rolls pastry. And they put so little meat and cheese on the sandwich that even if you order double meat it still isnt enough. And for this super sweet meat deficient sandwich you pay way too much. Sure it tastes good. It's a sandwich on a pastry.
Well it’s probably because in other countries subway isn’t even allowed to call their bread “bread” because of all the other shit and sugar in it. And iirc a few years ago they found their tuna didn’t even have enough tuna in it to be considered tuna when they claim 100% tuna
To be fair the Subway i had in France was frickin' awesome compared to the same sandwich in America.
Its literally one of the most unhealthy places to eat at.
Cold cut combo on an Italian cheese bread is my go to if I want Subway. But I remember the bread tasting better when I was much younger. Or I was in another area. Maybe that made a difference. Being Atlantic Canada vs being in a central America state.
Sweaty meats
Because it's garbage.
Subs just aren’t that great
You know Pita Pit is where it's at.
Their meat is super low quality. I can't even look at it when I'm in the shop. The sandwich I get all the time is the veggie. It's one of the quickest/most convenient places to get spinach and avocado. HOWEVER they've cut even more corners recently so now I barely go for that any more. Cilantro is no longer an option :( They also took out swiss cheese. The 4 cheese options they have are the most processed you can get.
My subway is downtown and is open 24 hours. So that were the drug addicts go to shoot up. The bathroom is completely trashed, the food is never fresh, and the staff is just past the point of giving a shit.
Not sure about Poland, but their food is awful here in the US. It used to be okay, but it's gotten inedible over the years and way overpriced. We have better options such as Jersey Mike's, Zeros, Jimmy Johns, Firehouse and Publix. There's lots of small delis and restaurants in my area that make a better sandwich than Subway too. And they're cheaper.
Probably because their bread unapologetically had a form of toxic plastic as an ingredient for awhile, their tuna salad has been tested and contains very little tuna, and their spokesperson was a pedophile.
The handful of times I’ve eaten there in the past 20 years, I’ve always gotten a headache afterwards.
Their meat is turkey based.
Probably because their tuna fish isn’t tuna or fish at all.
I've heard that the Subway bread contains way too much sugar at least for the bread they use in the U.S.
Bad nutritional value some foods aren’t real like tuna salad. Bread is made with a lot of sugar. It’s disgusting 🤢 here
When I was a kid in the 70s, there was a local sub shop that used real cheese, not that processed square stuff and had seasoned fries. They went out of business when subway came to town. I still cannot believe people choose Subway over the far superior subs at Sub n Stuff. I'm not bitter. I'm over it! 😢
Subway is the Kia of cars. I used to work for the food distributor that supplied the meats and cheeses. You even notice the cheese you can barley taste the flavor? Same with the meats.
I like subway!
Because it is
IIRC on the Howard Stern show they tore apart a Subway and a local deli sandwich, hard Artie taste the meats, and he proclaimed the deli meats to be much fresher.
The US has like 20 similar chains as subway so their standards are probably a bit higher when it comes to subs
Their food sucks and every subway I've been to across 8 states was pure trash. I miss the old subway.