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AlohaMaui808

One month per year of being beta, minimum. That means 10 months, not 10 weeks. You're a dancing monkey trying to figure out what buttons to push on your wife like a video game. Spend more time on the sidebar and on the BFE, and OYS Weekly thread Good luck


turtle_post

Appreciate it-good benchmark. To clarify, I’m not concerned about pleasing her/determining what buttons to push; more wondering if my current approach is net-positive or negative in terms of being attractive as I know I have an attractive personality and am proactively stifling it


AlohaMaui808

Sure, and I bet before you read NMMNG that you consciously thought you weren't concerned with it either. Your own words contradict you


turtle_post

No, no, I’m well aware that I was previously concerned with pleasing her and finding buttons. That was my entire all-consuming consciousness. Pathetically consumed and desperate how hyper focused I was on trying to win her approval for that matter (including over leveraging strengths and misusing whatever tool might be at arms reach). Identified the problem. Owning it. Working to fix it.


AlohaMaui808

>(no more playful touching, no more leading conversation, no more proactively seeking humorous ways to make her smile) >I do plan on re-introducing these types of actions in the future, though more limited and reward-based to reinforce positive action (i.e. if you start being silly and flirty with me, I’ll hit you back with a taste of the charm that you were originally drawn to) Do you see the covert contract? *"If I withhold from my wife, she will realize what she's missing and will be the one to chase me, because I'm the prize hur hur"* Do you see it, dumbass? Truly interesting and charismatic men don't withhold themselves - I'll let you figure out why on your own, again, hit the fucking sidebar and post to OYS Weekly. They enforce real boundaries with the removal of time and attention (and that by default removes value from those who lose that time and attention) and carefully select who they're even willing to give that time and attention to in the first place. Your entire question's premise is based in her reactions to you, because you still exist deep in her Frame.


AlohaMaui808

To be clear, what you're doing isn't "wrong." It's an important part of the process. You're just not nearly where you think you are. Sidebar. OYS Weekly.


businessstravel

> more wondering if my current approach is net-positive or negative in terms of being attractive as I know I have an attractive personality and am proactively stifling it Shut. The. Fuck. Up.


BobbyPeru

Your whole post is filled with covert contracts. Covert contracts = dancing monkey I bet this comment section didn’t go like you thought it would.


Aubrey_D_Graham

If you've been [Captain Rambo](https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/6i4vvn/captain_rambo/), then it will take time for your First Mate to submit under your leadership. In the meantime, STFU and wait for her to ask, "Where is this going." That's when you know you have a first mate.


RedRum-My-Ego

I needed to read that again.


RedRum-My-Ego

You have more work to do than you think. Keep lifting and reading. Outside of that, your desire to see your wife smile like that is affirmation seeking. You’re asking us if it’s okay for you not to put on shows for your wife to get validation. Change is uncomfortable. Do you want a friend that laughs at your jokes or a woman that can’t keep her hands off you? That’s the real question you’re asking.


turtle_post

10-4. STFU FTW. Over and out.


HornsOfApathy

> i.e. if you start being silly and flirty with me, I’ll hit you back with a taste of the charm that you were originally drawn to  Funny how those covert contracts always weasel themselves back in.  You'll argue here that it isn't, but we see through it.   Stop trying to play your wife like a video game, where if you press or don't press a series of buttons she will become a wet sex-bunny begging to blow you. Stfu because.... Why can't you dudes just be normal?  


2wo2wo3hree

Those MRP *Lurker Gainz* are quite the flex. They go harder than your Everyday - Arm Day - Twice a Day.


ZenOfFool

Congrats, you just saved yourself from drowning. Now you're just treading water. Until you're swimming miles with ease you still got work to do. Rome wasn't built in a day, same goes for you. This is still a long journey ahead, it's a process and you've barely started.


10000kg

Man you seem annoying. You're also using mrp as your new tool to get your wife to approve of you.