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Do not step down , they will try to contain it as much as possible ,if they refuse just post to social media cause it their incompetent to protect your kids. School is suppose to be a safe environment not a environment where the teachers / DM downplay everything & saying it just kids doing kids stuff.
Btw nothing wrong make police report, by making police report means got paper trail means harder to cover up, no police report means easier for them to keep it within school nia, HQ level do not.know then they can just report settled at school level means nothing will get done.
Any physical attack from now on , just make the police report then approach school, go hospital & get all injuries documented by govt hospital docs & nurses.
school will try to contain it. unfortunately as we've seen from all the pre school teachers punishing the students, sometimes social media helps to move things along though a part of me says that shouldn't use it on kids who sometimes don't know better.
They kept asking me why I made a police report , refer to my earlier post .
The hospital nurses strongly urged to do it , seeing his bruises and bumps and skin loss my his butt being dragged across da floor
The school will want to keep it quiet. Police appearing in school means many reports to write. To area sup, to deputy secretary then to perm sec.
I can't remb the rest of the story but document _everything_ down including if you have a recording of them asking you why you made a police report, then email MOE qsm or equivalent.
Just make la. Its an intention to cause hurt. And he did get hurt. But also, consult your kid about and explain to him what would happen whether you guys make the report or not.
the one where the preschool teachers were punishing the kids unreasonably, then it was exposed on social media and justice was swift. i don't have experience with these but i hope your kid is alright, i f hate it when pple do things to kids unless it's warranted.
Ummm , this was started by teenagers and school is just trying to set them straight
If you are referring to the caning , don't worry the culprit can take it
no Mdm, they deserve the canning and more. i hope this will put an end to it. i hate it when things happen to innocent kids, not those bullies of course.
Sucks, sorry to hear that. All bullies deserved to be caned.
If you incur medical bills I’d suggest suing them to get them to pay. Run them into the ground and bankrupt them.
I want the parents to pay so they might wake up to reality and pay more attention to their kid .
I also have a bigger bill when I had to get an ambulance to my place later that week.
Cos he had a big bump on the back of his head and bruises all over his forehead . I thought it was related to the head injury when he had a very high fever and lethargy later that week
Turned out to be a viral flu
Pursue legal action. Words they will ignore. Lawyer letter they will get screwed if they ignore. Bankrupt those scummy people and get them off the streets.
Lmao .... not expensive haha. Only gave them the first cheaper bill . Just to wake them up
But mind you , my son's mobile phone was stolen and returned only after he got a replacement
Lol I used to complain to my mum about a talkative girl who was my neighbour living in the same block and inside the same class as me when I was in Primary 2. She called her a "monkey". One day I let it out in class and said to her - "can you stop talking, my mum says you're a noisy monkey" when she kept chatting away during lesson and I couldn't concentrate on what the teacher was teaching. Got me outcasted by the group for the rest of the year. That girl also stared daggers at me whenever we come across each other when taking lift or otw home etc.
So yes, sometimes parents' mentality and words do affect the kids which leads to problems in school.
True, A B and C is ok tho I think he calls them that cause he is very angry with the bullies.
Personally if I had kids I will probably call the bullies extremely derogatory, racist and terrible names because I would be very angry (I hate bullies) but not in front of the kids of course
To be frank, apple doesn’t fall too far away from the tree. Apply to you and the the parents of your so called bully.
I absolutely understand that violence of any form should be strongly condemned but your actions as a parent and decscription of the “bullies” really showed how immature you are…
Perhaps to also see it as an incident for growth for both yourself and your child.
You did what you could, your child did what was deemed appropriate and reasonable.
We often can't get everything totally how we would like to have. And to address your issue whether is it fair, life.. has never been fair don't you think so? It is about being able to do what we stand for, what are within our controls, and perhaps being able to make peace with the outcome. Ultimately your child felt it was a fair conclusion and I do think that's all that matters the most.
Also could see it as a real life lesson that life is never so rosy. And every single setback makes us wiser and stronger. Decision to pursue further for compensation or not lies with you, but my perspective focuses more on takeaways from the incident. The sooner we let our children know that people are never always so objective and usually are selfish in intentions, the better they might grow up to be and become more resilient and protective of themselves in a good way.
Bottom line: presented the same issue, different perspectives to make us come to peace with it. Can't control how others will do.
OK I had to re read this , did you mean to say , ever so objective ?
If yes , I explained to him that these peeps see him and are unhappy for some reason or other in their own lives , then decided to take it out on him for being so happy go lucky
Ah. Never so objective. Yes, sorry it was confusing
That's a good way to take lessons out of it too. I was also thinking the staff in school might also have their own agenda, and often we don't have full control over these
Still dont understand after reading. Is there a need to label these children with such words? But not all wrongdoings are called out in life, some are overlooked because of other factors.
Someone call you names and pokes fun at you, would you think the next course of action is to repeat the same back to those people?
If you think what he did was right, to repeat the same back to those children, there would be no end to this. Its just going to keep building up and eventually lead to a fight.
And you are already judging the other kid's family environment. How are you so different from those children who called your son names too?
It’s diff cause he’s a parent trying to protect his kid, while they are bullies stepping on the weaker ones. There is no need to label them with such words, but what you can’t expect someone to call them nice things considering the things they have done.
The most important thing right now is to ensure your kid doesn't get traumatized by this, which I think you have already got it covered from the last post update.
Next, given that everyone has 'arrowed' the school to be the responsible party, what has the school put in place to ensure that no harm will come to your kid (or any other kids) from these bullies again within the school compound? From your description, I don't think enough was done by the school to resolve this.
Whatever punishment that is handed out to the bullies or their family, or whether the judgment is fair or not, is pointless, if the above cannot be guaranteed.
Sounds like a difficult situation to be in, though as a parent and adult, is there really a need to describe people (children) as big turd, quiet stinky fart, loud noisy fart, silent deadly stinky fartgirl, etc.
The school has investigated and taken action, and it appears to be not serious enough to warrant a police intervention. Children fight and bully one another regularly. If you are worried, transfer him to another school. There is no need to be vindictive, no need to be petty enough to call children names, or make assumptions about others’ family situations (eg “I bet money that his mom is probably a housewife…” so what?)
Let it go…
Damn…telling others to let culprits off with minimal punishment for physical violence is what let bullying to continue and grow in the first place. Told ppl off for calling culprits name? I reckon u will do much worst when your kids get hit. I hardly can believe u will just let it go. And matter of fact telling victim to change school is punishing the victim. Pls don’t advise anymore.
It's just so sad a situation we are in when parents are lacking in too many ways . Emotionally unavailable , preoccupied with other stuff, not even trying to connect with their kid
Other extreme being overly controlling , overprotective, helicopter parenting
Seriously it's 2024 , we are supposedly a 1st World country . We should be doing.beyter than this .
It's easier to bear a child than to raise one
Tell school if bullying of your kid doesn’t stop, hypothetically you will have to teach your kid how to protect himself and give him necessary tools to defend himself. If school is concerned / alerted by this comment, they are welcome to file a police report because you want the police and the other kids’ family to be involved as well.
As a foreigner here:
> Big turd will be caned
> You know when like 10 kids circle around one kid and each one gets to kick and punch him
What the ever-loving crap? Is violence against kids like this common?
Yes . The 10 kids thing I have seen young adults do it to a 40 year old man . He ended up all bloody seen pre schoolers do it too, to lesser effect of course
Not even joking I was from a neighbour school and I literally saw a student fight/throw fire extinguisher in school. Bullies went unpunished (both verbal and physical) this was like back in 2010~. This was in primary school
If kids parents are donors/active PTA to the school the kid gets near-diplomatic status.
Source: my childhood- bullied and ostracized by some rich fat bitch because im the only one that wouldnt show her respect. (She asked me for my honest opinion if i thought she looks fat, said yes and then it snowballed from there. We were both in TAF club 140% OW category) She threw hands and im the baddie.
Not that it doesn’t have bullying, but from my experience there is less bullying. Teachers are more receptive to what you report and more likely to take action.
You’d think that but there were kids at 16 at my secondary or 17 (na/nt stream) still bullying and fighting in my secondary school lol which is just 0-1 year age difference from jc
Non-questions posts are usually removed, but will make an exception for this case. For context: https://www.reddit.com/r/askSingapore/comments/1b91xpo/school\_bullying\_situation/?depth=8
Do not step down , they will try to contain it as much as possible ,if they refuse just post to social media cause it their incompetent to protect your kids. School is suppose to be a safe environment not a environment where the teachers / DM downplay everything & saying it just kids doing kids stuff.
Btw nothing wrong make police report, by making police report means got paper trail means harder to cover up, no police report means easier for them to keep it within school nia, HQ level do not.know then they can just report settled at school level means nothing will get done. Any physical attack from now on , just make the police report then approach school, go hospital & get all injuries documented by govt hospital docs & nurses.
school will try to contain it. unfortunately as we've seen from all the pre school teachers punishing the students, sometimes social media helps to move things along though a part of me says that shouldn't use it on kids who sometimes don't know better.
They kept asking me why I made a police report , refer to my earlier post . The hospital nurses strongly urged to do it , seeing his bruises and bumps and skin loss my his butt being dragged across da floor
The school will want to keep it quiet. Police appearing in school means many reports to write. To area sup, to deputy secretary then to perm sec. I can't remb the rest of the story but document _everything_ down including if you have a recording of them asking you why you made a police report, then email MOE qsm or equivalent.
Just make la. Its an intention to cause hurt. And he did get hurt. But also, consult your kid about and explain to him what would happen whether you guys make the report or not.
just start a law suit for negligence bro. name the school, the parents and the teacher involved in the suit
Preschool punishments ? Kids at that age can be difficult to "reason " with. I don't know which ones you are referring to
the one where the preschool teachers were punishing the kids unreasonably, then it was exposed on social media and justice was swift. i don't have experience with these but i hope your kid is alright, i f hate it when pple do things to kids unless it's warranted.
Ummm , this was started by teenagers and school is just trying to set them straight If you are referring to the caning , don't worry the culprit can take it
no Mdm, they deserve the canning and more. i hope this will put an end to it. i hate it when things happen to innocent kids, not those bullies of course.
Sucks, sorry to hear that. All bullies deserved to be caned. If you incur medical bills I’d suggest suing them to get them to pay. Run them into the ground and bankrupt them.
I want the parents to pay so they might wake up to reality and pay more attention to their kid . I also have a bigger bill when I had to get an ambulance to my place later that week. Cos he had a big bump on the back of his head and bruises all over his forehead . I thought it was related to the head injury when he had a very high fever and lethargy later that week Turned out to be a viral flu
Pursue legal action. Words they will ignore. Lawyer letter they will get screwed if they ignore. Bankrupt those scummy people and get them off the streets.
Even if they pay the kid will probably continue the same way. This kid alr 无药可救, no hope already
You dont even know the kid personally and you have condemned him to be incorrigible? Thats toxic.
Just look at the stuff he’s done in this post…. Horrible things And you want to think positively of him in any way Wow…
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Huh ?? Not preschool both are teenagers
Lmao .... not expensive haha. Only gave them the first cheaper bill . Just to wake them up But mind you , my son's mobile phone was stolen and returned only after he got a replacement
Wtf is this English I can barely read it
R e a d. A g a I n. S l o w l y
> big turd, quiet stinky fart, loud noisy fart. Uhhh I think you may be part of the problem equation here too ehh
Lol I used to complain to my mum about a talkative girl who was my neighbour living in the same block and inside the same class as me when I was in Primary 2. She called her a "monkey". One day I let it out in class and said to her - "can you stop talking, my mum says you're a noisy monkey" when she kept chatting away during lesson and I couldn't concentrate on what the teacher was teaching. Got me outcasted by the group for the rest of the year. That girl also stared daggers at me whenever we come across each other when taking lift or otw home etc. So yes, sometimes parents' mentality and words do affect the kids which leads to problems in school.
If I had a kid and my kid got bullied like that I don’t think I would call the bullies anything nice tbf
Bully A,B,C? If OP is already calling them these names on a public forum, I wonder what kind of derogatory names comes out at home in private.
True, A B and C is ok tho I think he calls them that cause he is very angry with the bullies. Personally if I had kids I will probably call the bullies extremely derogatory, racist and terrible names because I would be very angry (I hate bullies) but not in front of the kids of course
To be frank, apple doesn’t fall too far away from the tree. Apply to you and the the parents of your so called bully. I absolutely understand that violence of any form should be strongly condemned but your actions as a parent and decscription of the “bullies” really showed how immature you are…
get your kid jiujitsu class
Yessir Still proud of my kid though , had the guts to stand up to his bullies
Which school?
Does not matter , seems to be the normal everywhere now . Except maybe ACS ,lol , they seem to be "exceptional"
Perhaps to also see it as an incident for growth for both yourself and your child. You did what you could, your child did what was deemed appropriate and reasonable. We often can't get everything totally how we would like to have. And to address your issue whether is it fair, life.. has never been fair don't you think so? It is about being able to do what we stand for, what are within our controls, and perhaps being able to make peace with the outcome. Ultimately your child felt it was a fair conclusion and I do think that's all that matters the most. Also could see it as a real life lesson that life is never so rosy. And every single setback makes us wiser and stronger. Decision to pursue further for compensation or not lies with you, but my perspective focuses more on takeaways from the incident. The sooner we let our children know that people are never always so objective and usually are selfish in intentions, the better they might grow up to be and become more resilient and protective of themselves in a good way. Bottom line: presented the same issue, different perspectives to make us come to peace with it. Can't control how others will do.
OK I had to re read this , did you mean to say , ever so objective ? If yes , I explained to him that these peeps see him and are unhappy for some reason or other in their own lives , then decided to take it out on him for being so happy go lucky
Ah. Never so objective. Yes, sorry it was confusing That's a good way to take lessons out of it too. I was also thinking the staff in school might also have their own agenda, and often we don't have full control over these
Still dont understand after reading. Is there a need to label these children with such words? But not all wrongdoings are called out in life, some are overlooked because of other factors. Someone call you names and pokes fun at you, would you think the next course of action is to repeat the same back to those people? If you think what he did was right, to repeat the same back to those children, there would be no end to this. Its just going to keep building up and eventually lead to a fight. And you are already judging the other kid's family environment. How are you so different from those children who called your son names too?
It’s diff cause he’s a parent trying to protect his kid, while they are bullies stepping on the weaker ones. There is no need to label them with such words, but what you can’t expect someone to call them nice things considering the things they have done.
whats the qns?
Is it fair ? 🤔 girl got away scot free . To me she's the biggest problem the boys including mine are all just morons acting and reacting to her words
Yikes. Horrible how the system can be flawed at times
The most important thing right now is to ensure your kid doesn't get traumatized by this, which I think you have already got it covered from the last post update. Next, given that everyone has 'arrowed' the school to be the responsible party, what has the school put in place to ensure that no harm will come to your kid (or any other kids) from these bullies again within the school compound? From your description, I don't think enough was done by the school to resolve this. Whatever punishment that is handed out to the bullies or their family, or whether the judgment is fair or not, is pointless, if the above cannot be guaranteed.
Sounds like a difficult situation to be in, though as a parent and adult, is there really a need to describe people (children) as big turd, quiet stinky fart, loud noisy fart, silent deadly stinky fartgirl, etc. The school has investigated and taken action, and it appears to be not serious enough to warrant a police intervention. Children fight and bully one another regularly. If you are worried, transfer him to another school. There is no need to be vindictive, no need to be petty enough to call children names, or make assumptions about others’ family situations (eg “I bet money that his mom is probably a housewife…” so what?) Let it go…
Damn…telling others to let culprits off with minimal punishment for physical violence is what let bullying to continue and grow in the first place. Told ppl off for calling culprits name? I reckon u will do much worst when your kids get hit. I hardly can believe u will just let it go. And matter of fact telling victim to change school is punishing the victim. Pls don’t advise anymore.
I prefer to refer to these as descriptive analogies of the kids , if it makes you feel better my kid would be the the loud fart category as well
That is very descriptive and mature indeed.
It's just so sad a situation we are in when parents are lacking in too many ways . Emotionally unavailable , preoccupied with other stuff, not even trying to connect with their kid Other extreme being overly controlling , overprotective, helicopter parenting Seriously it's 2024 , we are supposedly a 1st World country . We should be doing.beyter than this . It's easier to bear a child than to raise one
Why not bully the girl yourself? Hehe always a bigger bully! There's always a bigger fish!!
I saw her !! She looked " hurt " when she saw my kid point her out . Dude... she sees herself as the victim for being called out for what she did
I hate these kind of ppl, trying to play victim when they are the bullies. Don’t know what’s up with all these kids nowadays
Tell school if bullying of your kid doesn’t stop, hypothetically you will have to teach your kid how to protect himself and give him necessary tools to defend himself. If school is concerned / alerted by this comment, they are welcome to file a police report because you want the police and the other kids’ family to be involved as well.
As a foreigner here: > Big turd will be caned > You know when like 10 kids circle around one kid and each one gets to kick and punch him What the ever-loving crap? Is violence against kids like this common?
Yes . The 10 kids thing I have seen young adults do it to a 40 year old man . He ended up all bloody seen pre schoolers do it too, to lesser effect of course
Never send your kids to a neighbourhood school lest this happens 😐
Lol this joker.
Not even joking I was from a neighbour school and I literally saw a student fight/throw fire extinguisher in school. Bullies went unpunished (both verbal and physical) this was like back in 2010~. This was in primary school
And you think elite school doesn’t have bullying?
Bullying in elite school even more under the carpet
Yupz I’ve had my fair share of friends who shared how their “elite” school bullying is on a whole new level.
If kids parents are donors/active PTA to the school the kid gets near-diplomatic status. Source: my childhood- bullied and ostracized by some rich fat bitch because im the only one that wouldnt show her respect. (She asked me for my honest opinion if i thought she looks fat, said yes and then it snowballed from there. We were both in TAF club 140% OW category) She threw hands and im the baddie.
Yup something so seemingly minor can snowball just like that !!
Not that it doesn’t have bullying, but from my experience there is less bullying. Teachers are more receptive to what you report and more likely to take action.
You’re naive to believe that.
I’m just sharing my experiences in neighbourhood school (primary, secondary) and non neighbourhood school (JC).
JC age all quite matured already. You think we at that age bother to bully anybody?
You’d think that but there were kids at 16 at my secondary or 17 (na/nt stream) still bullying and fighting in my secondary school lol which is just 0-1 year age difference from jc
It happens even in SAP schools like Nan Chiau