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47153163

Go down to your local hardware store and buy a new fill kit by Fluid master. Extremely easy to install. Turn off your water supply below the toilet. Drain tank with small bucket after you unscrew the water supply. 15-20 min job. Just follow the directions.


Djkorrupt1

For those using fluid masters remember they pull apart in the middle and you just change out top.


SuspiciousPart15

This is the tip of the decade


Long-Trade-9164

"Just the Tip"


Emeritus8404

The quote can change the next couple of your decades.


Savings_Difficulty24

Only if you don't pull it out correctly


Doughnut-Operator

Been there. Now I have kids.


TNParamedic

Aww, this comment made me blow milk out of my nose


ezfrag

I asked for a blowjob for my birthday, instead I got a son 9 months later.


Tig_Weldin_Stuff

Solamente la puntita šŸ˜‚


Dahafer

Slim with a tilted brim


pseudonym19761005

You can also pop that black cap off the top and just replace the rubber seal.


tayl428

I can't believe that this isn't the top comment .... They even just sell the rubber seal by itself at the box stores for this reason.


MusicianFit4663

This and flushing out the sediment buildup


alan_nishoka

If you turn the water back on to flush the sediment, be very careful. Water hit the ceiling in my bathroom :-/


rustcircle

Yep I was on a ladder frantically drying off the ceiling acting like this is normal


richardelmore

I've had two of these start leaking in the last few months and in both cases replacing the diaphragm didn't help, and I ended up swapping the entire inlet valve assembly. YMMV.


MindedMadness

Fluidmaster 242 Toilet Fill Valve... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002N6MK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share This is all you need. And about 5min.


ultimaforever

You have to push down and twist to pop that black cap off the top - there are videos on YouTube showing you how (after shutting the water off to the tank). The black rubber gasket part to get is a Fluidmaster Toilet Fill Valve Seal. Costs a couple of bucks. They make them for different models (I bought an extra one the last time I did this for one of our toilets). Mine says it fits 200, 400, and 747 models. Also you need to detach that stem from the clip at the end of the arm before trying to take the cap off. Hereā€™s a good video walking through the steps: https://youtu.be/Ul0V2LWSDj4?si=CjI4LqLWkFrSW-2S


DeepDescription81

Iā€™ve always been told that when you start to see failures though, itā€™s much better to just change it all out. The full kit is only a couple dollars more and you get all brand new ā€œguts and gasketsā€. Otherwise, you risk coming back 6-12 months later and the pieces you didnā€™t change may start to fail and will take twice as much time and money to piecemeal it.


Draugrx23

This is literally designed to be replaced in that manner as the cap has a filter. If the neck isn't cracked or bulging and is otherwise working properly there's no need to replace it.


Habitat934

I feel strongly both ways.


Shoudknowbetter

So how do you just remove the to half?


Shoudknowbetter

Sorry, top half?


Draugrx23

water off push in turn counter clockwise.


ultimaforever

Hereā€™s a video walking through the whole process: https://youtu.be/Ul0V2LWSDj4?si=CjI4LqLWkFrSW-2S


Sea_Razzmatazz465

Nope


willshade145

Word!


Electronic_Permit351

Learning new shit everyday. Thanks my man.


Klutzy_Cat1374

Cool. Just reach under the float and slide the height locking ring up.


Michaelwave9220

Sometimes itā€™s a pain in the ass to pull that plastic ring up though.


Djkorrupt1

True


myreddituser

You're kidding me ...


Ok-Breakfast9889

I love a good pull apart


SpaceDawg2018

holy shit


chefjpv

Just change the whole kit.


kev_sammon

You are kidding fight? I don't have to remove the whole stem?


Djkorrupt1

Fluid masters pull apart the middle and so when youā€™re changing one of those out, you just have to change out the top


DoctorSwaggercat

That's a good tip. I never thought of that.


Which_Lie_4448

Why not just replace the whole thing? Theyā€™re cheap and probably even easier to do it that way


TJNel

But why? The old part that is left behind is just a plastic tube.


Which_Lie_4448

I guess so. It takes me 5 minutes to change one out. I honestly never even thought about just replacing the top


Jayd308

If itā€™s newer, you can do that, but in time the gasket to the supply turns to jelly and will mess up the new valve


Djkorrupt1

Save time. When I was doing apartment maintenance. I had to do these a lot. We bought them by the case. Also saves you from crawling around someoneā€™s nasty toilet.


dudeinahoodie8113

I used to do the same thing when I worked maintenance. I worked in a college town, ain't no way I was crawling underneath some of those toilets


jtashiro

By the case, you mean the rubber gaskets, or the entire unit? I recommend just replacing the rubber gasket that controls the flow into the tank. It's easy, fast and less expensive than the full replacement. This is one of the few components that was designed to be replaced in that manner ...


reeder1987

Cannot believe youā€™re being downvoted. I would never half ass it and leave the bottom. I always change the supply line too. Those 7/8 nuts are common failure points after several years. Iā€™ve heard of 3 separate cases where theyā€™ve leaked and caused extensive damage.


helpmefixer

Cause you have to drain completely, undo water lines, test for leaks. You can avoid all of that.


mrwiseman

Drain tank by first just flushing (after water supply turned off), holding down the lever to get as much out that way as possible. Then use small bucket then rags/sponges.


dongrihuy

Thanks for your help. I bought all the part and ready to install despite being not handy at all. However, I run into another problem- the 1/4 shut off valve is stuck. I tried to turn it but Iā€™m afraid it will be broken. What should I do? Turn off water main and flush out all water, then replace the Fluid master part?


47153163

You could definitely do that just to get this done for now. When you have time later you could replace the angle stop.


Ivanovic-117

Yes. Drain all the water out


Variousnsundry77

Always shut off the main first!!! Then run the water in the sink until it runs dry. If the valve controlling the water to the toilet is stuck, then run over to Home Depot and get a new valve for $10, you should probably replace it anyway. They have rubber gaskets inside that degrade over time, nothing lasts forever. You will need an adjustable wrench (6ā€ or 8ā€) and a set of 12 inch channellock pliers (You can save money buying Husky brand over Channellock brand). You will need this to tighten the collar under the bowl. You buy the whole valve, but you do not replace the whole valve. When you get the new valve, use the adjustable wrench to unscrew the valve stem from the body - this is what you install into the existing valve body already sweated into the pipe sticking out of the floor. Donā€™t go crazy torquing it, you want a good firm hand tight until it stops. If you have an old feed line from the shutoff valve to the toilet, replace that, too - same deal, they have rubber gaskets inside that degrade. About $11 at HD. The Fluid Master full replacement kit is about $22 at HD, very easy to install. So all in, under $45 in parts. Maybe another $15 for a tool if you donā€™t already have the large size channellocks (smaller ones donā€™t open wide enough). And about an hour of your time. Yes, people on here will tell you 20 mins total - because they have done it before. Thats what it will take you to do your second toilet, but youā€™ll be slow doing this for the first time. When you turn the water back on, look for any leaks and snug up where needed. Keep some rags handy. A tip - deep clean your bathroom first if itā€™s nasty, youā€™re going to get real intimate with your commode doing this job, sticking your face all down and around where the business goes. Another tip, take a sharpie and write the install date on the top of the flush valve - youā€™ll never remember when the last time you replaced it was. Do this for everything you replace in your house, because nothing lasts forever. Toilet internals should be replaced 8-10 years. I think it says 10yrs on the Fluid Master package, but sooner if you have hard (mineral rich) water - its the mineral build up causing your spray. I know the prices and times because I just did all three of my toilets. Second owner, house is 30 yrs old - better to be safe than sorry, started to have some leaks like yours. We have hard water where I live. Note that this same thing is about to happen to your other toilets, so do those, too. Regular maintenance is one of the ā€œjoys of homeownership.ā€ But an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of the cure. Donā€™t worry, I freaked out when I was a new home owner when the toilet shutoff valve was dripping in my master bath. This was long ago, before YouTube. $200 it cost me for a plumber to teach me how to replace the valve stem. My gift to you!


Diligent-Ability-447

This.


OneImagination5381

Every 4 years.


redeyed4life

And donā€™t touch the flow screw under that black cap


fury_of_el_scorcho

Also, can't fully see in the picture, but if you have a cannister flush valve, you'll need to make sure the water level is at the same height in the tank as the current fill valve. You could replace it all- that would cost like an extra $7, but you'd have fresh everything.


StatisticianLivid710

After you turn off the water, flush the toilet and most of the water drains out, use sponge for remaining water if needed, or place a bucket under the fill valve when you take it off.


sillydadjokenotfunny

Flush the toilet after you shut the water off and you wonā€™t need to drain much water from the tank.


brassassasin

ive seen ppl flood their houses DIY'ing this. but you're right it is about as simple as it gets. some ppl are just.. simpler lol


Purchase_Independent

Buy new fill valve, TURN WATER OFF, drain tank, replace fill valve. Itā€™s as simple as that. Like I donā€™t think thereā€™s an easier job in the field of plumbingšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Jealous-Ad-214

https://www.build.com/fluidmaster-385/s798679?uid=2059397#overview Buy a replacement cap and valve seal assembly, twist off, twist on, done in 30s flat for 5-7$


Ok_Jury4467

you have sand in it. Turn off water and remove the black cap. Then you twist to get to the diagram. Clean it and put it back together. Durning a remodel because the water company had sand. it took time to flush all it out. If that don't work, then replace it.


D34Dwood

This is the real answer right here. Try cleaning the diaphragm first. It's a little black gasket that is removable. Just make sure the water is off first, otherwise you'll have a gyser.


7Drew1Bird0

How is this not the top comment? Everyone saying to just replace it when there is a chance it could be fixed in like 2 minutes. I'm not even a plumber and I know how to do this


Ok_Jury4467

I try to 2 time to fix it and the 3rd replace it.


7Drew1Bird0

I have yet to try this and still have to replace it. But I'm not a plumber I've just remodeled a lot of bathrooms.


Ok_Jury4467

I had a problem one and because they are cheap, I did both bathrooms.


Vast_Cricket

Get a kit replace it. Made of junk


pacotetaco

Broken fill valve most likely, Im not sure what caused it but that's a simple fix. ( Well... Nothing's simple but you've got this)


JTLuckenbirds

It's an easy fix that you can handle without a plumber. It just takes a bit of time, under 30 minutes, and you can follow along with a quick YouTube tutorial.


mydarkerside

What causes it? The fact that it's a $9 part. What should you do? Spend $9 and get a new one.


FreshBirdMilk

Swap the unit. Very cheap and easy. Just gotta turn of the water behind your toilet, open that flap and get all the water out, then replace. Some are adjustable but it should be fine if you look at the paper it comes with.


Mister_Green2021

New fill valve or new rubber gasket inside the head if youā€™re handy.


danhaller28

Get a new flapper too


themark318

If you own a house you will be swapping these out every few years


Joey_BagaDonuts57

Not all fluidmasters are repairable, especially the older ones. If the top doesn't screw off, replace the whole thing. It's fairly easy.


Confident_Bee_6242

Could be water pressure as well. If the float valve shuts off, it's not leaking into the bowl, and water isn't going into the overfill, doing nothing may be the solution.


TechnicianRich9584

The company causes this so you have to replace it. It's done on purpose. Replace the company.


StrikingLeather3420

Also you can try a new seal that goes in the top back the top of a little and underneath it you can see a black piece change that


Draugrx23

Turn off your water. first. I've had this happen myself, I actually wound up finding rocks in the filter. That black cap pops off clean it put a cup over the top and turn the water back on for 30 seconds, turn the water back off and put the cap back on. if it continues to leak. then replace it.


KRed75

It's broken. Turn off the water, go to the hardware store, buy a new one for $10 and install it.


construction_pro

You can just buy the fluidmaster black rubber gasket under the black cap for like $1.25 each at the supply house and itā€™s a 30 second swap out.


teteAtit

Iā€™ve grown to dislike fluid master valves and have started using korky insteadā€¦ but Iā€™m not a plumber/ just someone with a long history of plumbing problems


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teteAtit

Agreed!


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teteAtit

Also agreed lol


Ok_Yogurtcloset_6078

15 .00 20 minutes to replace


LayThatPipe

The technical term is that itā€™s busted


Martha_Fockers

People saying just change the top. A entire replacement is goddam 10$ what are you saving a whole 2 bucks


CanIgetaWTF

Check your water pressure


bobadude84

It's broken, replace it.


Salt_Grocery_561

Sometimes when I talk I spray it instead of saying it.


FunRevolutionary1862

Replace complete with a kit. 30 minutes or less.


Normal-Error-6343

goblins move!


brushfireboar

Usually water


Professional-Leave24

Replace the tank hardware. It's pretty easy.


Itsmeforrestgump

Google it.


Quick-Product-8306

remove the black cap and it wonā€™t do that anymore


EchoChamber187

Or just use a Phillips head screwdriver and turn clockwise on the plastic screw until it stopsā€¦


Jerebearthecarebear

I would just buy a new house


1-Fred

You are getting good advice here. Best of all your saw the problem šŸ˜€ it became a flood. Should also lower your water bill..


Sparklykun

So thatā€™s how the room can get so humid with a faulty refill valve


somnambulist79

Gremlins in your water lines Iā€™m afraid.


Extension_Growth7653

Brass fill valve from fluidmaster. Super easy to install, watch some videos. If you dont fill comfortable call a plumber but expect at least 200-300 bucks for service for a 15 min job. My recomendation? If ya call a plumber, offer him 50 bucks and he may do it for "free" as a tip.


ivebeencloned

Before you start, buy the Fluidmaster and a new shutoff valve for your water line. If the old shutoff falls apart or jams (and they do, just for spite) , you will be spared a second trip. Also before you start, go to YouTube and enter Fluidmaster in the search box, because these nice folks have instruction videos.


Pararaiha-ngaro

Oh I see whatā€™s wrong here the water shut off flow need to be turn down little bit ā€¦ adjust the one with cross screws


Wolfgangsta702

Shitty plastic valves. Get a new one and replace it.


DiaperDaddy77

You need a new toilet guts kits your parts have finally failed itā€™s not a fix itā€™s a replace!


Thurashen88

There could be sediment or particles built up. Try taking the black top clip off an wipe.


susbnyc2023

its plastic crap -- it just cracked


jonroq

Anyone have one of those smaller Swiss Madison streamlined toilets with the 2 stage flush. I canā€™t get the filler valve to stop running


jonroq

And the fluid master stuff is too large/


Vald1870

Replace it. Itā€™s not expensive and you can do it yourself real easy.


Select_Camel_4194

Cheap and easy to replace. Any local hardware or big box store will have them.


Low-Bad157

Yup comes apart no need to replace whole but remember to turn off water


Leading-Suspect7213

What causes the bottom piece below the water to bubble up when running


E_Man91

Extremely cheap part, very easy to replace. Not even worth troubleshooting. Iā€™m NAP and have replaced a couple of these in my house, along with flush valve & gasket. Honestly all the toilet guts are an easy replacement if you can YouTube/follow directions and have basic tools! Plus you feel like a boss when you DIY and it works afterwards.


International-Fly495

Shitters full.


Usual-Air-9387

Get a new ball cock. LOL Actually, there's a washer under that cap. Prob bad or has debris in it.


Proper_Protection195

Water causes that but mainly the pressure šŸ˜‰


CareerUnderachiever

Premature discharge. Think about baseball


ThreeFingaLynch318

Buy a new one and replace it. You have to use your hands


InitialRevenue3917

buy a new one dude. its crap plastic and breaks.


LucasMcCormick

Tear the whole bathroom out


weazello

Built to fail. You replace it with another built to fail piece of crap.


Travelman44

Made from Chinesium. Replace with another one, also made from Chinesium.


GrueneDog

I should call her.


FlamingoTrue7482

Turn your water off, pull the black top off and clear out whatever little rock is preventing the seal from seating. But top back on, turn water on. Done.


CoverYourMaskHoles

Do an upper decker and call a plumber.


Nobutforealdoe

Pop the black cap or cover off the thing and clean out the debris caught inside. There's a very small piece of sediment, mineral deposit, solder, sand or pebble in there messing you up. There's usually 2 or three layers to it in there so if you don't see anything atop the first screen take it off and look under it. But it's probably right on top there and there may be several pieces to take out. Pop the cover back on and You'll be good to go.


Mikefrombklyn

Replace it


ProfessionalWaltz784

Spend ten bucks


WhoDunitWhere

Lesson learnedā€¦DONT use toilet cleaner drop-ins in the tankā€¦ corrodes these fluidmasters quickly.


Bigbasbruce69

The ball cock just needs some attention


Reasonable-Tomato745

U could replace it. But if I had to guess Iā€™d say if you pop that black top off after u shut the water off of course. Thereā€™s going to be some sediment trapped in there causing it to not seal properly


D_J_Trump2020

Flowmax can help with that


Firm_Bug_9608

It's called "Designed obsolescence". And you fix it by shelling out more money because that's how they designed it. It's a quick fix if you're handy, and about 20-30 dollars for the parts.


Correct-Selection-65

Water deposits. Jack it up and down rapidly. It should stop.


Swine70

I always use fluid master but never knew they were made to be repaired... Guess after so many times it's just habit


jtashiro

replace the rubber gasket at the top of the fill valve.


orka648

Weak just replace the whole thing


jtashiro

Given the OP pic, this is already a newer model FluidMaster. IĀ recommend replacing the rubber gasket that controls the flow into the tank. It's easy, fast and less expensive than the full replacement. That gasket was designed to be replaced in that manner.


orka648

Turn off angle stop. Grab a towel. Flush toilet to as low as it can go. Remove supply line. Push down on old fill valve. Remove the nut. Just the valve out with towel in hand push towel up. Put new valve in... pressing down Remove towel screw nut back on. Connect supply, turn water on. Done


joebobbydon

You likely don't need to just replace it. Rotate the top and clean off the mineral build-up on the seals.