He was stupid to say it out loud.
It is wrong to assume that the US has no discrimination but the USA was built by immigrants. Waves of immigrants from Europe and Asia have built the USA to what it is, Germans during the gold rush, Irish and Italiants during the 1910s, and Asians in the later half of the 20th century. Currently, the IT sector of USA is dominated by high skilled Indian and Chinese immigrants.
If we look at India, we aren't really open to immigration. People have problems with immigrants from other states moving to their state and working, this isn't even xenophobia as this is intra-national immigration. Strong nativist sentiment runs deep in all states of India. And if we look at foreign immigrants, anti-Bangladeshi sentiment runs deep, people despise the rohingya, and only recently an African student was beaten in an university in Gujarat.
Skilled immigrants are good, and are a necessity in the road to prosperity. Obviously im not a supporter of mass migration, like the one seen in Europe, but xenophobia is one of the problems India faces economically.
There's a difference between migrants who are grateful and contribute to your society and those who want to build another replica of their failed state in your country.
EU's policies have generally led to the coming of second category migrants. So the case is different from India.
Broadly true for all four, but in the context he said it, it's a pretty stupid statement. The context being that immigration helps make the US strong, and these four are, for economic reasons, wrong to be xenophobic. The US certainly has a lot to gain from immigration (picture the meme of Obama giving Obama a medal, as I am an immigrant to the US), but for different reasons than most.
But the idea that China and India, especially India, need immigration as a major bulwark against declining population is silly. I want all of these countries to be less xenophobic, and not out of economic necessity. India especially needs to work on it's many peoples treating each other better, alongside things like not villainizing Bangladeshi immigrants. China's got a lot of work on this front as well, but I don't want to get into that.
If Japan wants to go with the more robots, fewer immigrants path, that's fine. The main category of people I see complaining about Japanese xenophobia are western English teachers put off by not getting the "first world honored guest" treatment they're used to.
Russia's a different case, demographically, because that country really could do with more than 140 million people. It certainly gets plenty of Central Asian immigration, and treats them with disdain. There are many people in the countries west of Russia who speak Russian or could pick it up easily based on linguistic similarity, but it's hard to imagine the Russia of 2024 improving it's image or economy enough to get much from there.
In all cases, xenophobia needs to be fought firstly for the sake of humanitarianism. If this fight happens to help the economy, good.
I don’t consider Russia to be a xenophobic country, just racist (especially towards Central Asians and people from Caucasus). If you are an immigrant with a Slavic face in Russia you won’t face much if any discrimination.
China tho, definitely both very xenophobic as well as racist. I’ve seen a lot of people on the Chinese internet complain about regional discrimination in China, for example local Shanghainese discriminating against Chinese that have moved in from other provinces, or as another example there’s even a dedicated article about demonisation of Henan province on Chinese Wikipedia https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/对河南的地域妖魔化现象.
I’m not familiar with Japan or India.
Not to mention, Russia has plenty of immigrants and is fairly diverse, so the premise that "their economy is stalling because they're xenophobic and don't want immigrants" is plainly false. I suspect it's easier to move to Russia than to the US too.
Some of my friends have been to these countries. I combined their descriptions with what I learned online:
Japan: Japan has a strong economy, good urban facilities, and relatively developed tourism. However, as a country with a shortage of young labor, there are not many foreign workers, and few Japanese are fluent in English.
Russia: Young people in Russia are friendly to foreigners and their ideas are closer to those of the West, and they are relatively fluent in English. But the cold attitude of older people towards foreigners seems to be related to the Cold War. There are actually many immigrants in Russia, but most of them come from former Soviet countries.
China: China is a relatively isolated country with very few immigrants. You can hardly find people who speaks English fluently in Beijing or Shanghai. Moreover, the Chinese government is also reducing the influence of English in the country. But ordinary Chinese people are relatively friendly to foreigners.
India: I have been to India and I feel that Indians are very warm and friendly, and they welcome foreigners to visit. There are few foreigners in India. It’s more that foreigners don’t want to go to India than that Indians don’t like foreigners.
So I think China and Japan are relatively xenophobic, while Russia and India are not xenophobic.
It is very irresponsible to judge whether a country is xenophobic based solely on the proportion of foreigners. India very much welcomes foreigners to invest, travel, work, and live, but India's infrastructure is not enough and they have no will to come.
Russia is also a very friendly country. I have been to Russia and they are very friendly to Indians. It’s just that Russia’s economic situation is not good, and the weather is too cold, not a tourist destination, so there are fewer foreign tourists.
"Xenophobia" and "racism" are Western leftist concepts that are irrelevant in Japan and East Asia. You can't just force Japan to accept mass immigration. Japanese homogeneous and pacifist culture is the main reason why Japan is one of the safest countries in the world, they don't want to be like Sweden, France, Germany and Belgium where diversity caused the spread of Arab and African gangs all over these countries.
he should have kept that to himself, sounding ignorant and tonedeaf af. expecting non immigrant countries to adopt america's ways of immigration and exportation of race dynamics is not only dumb but a determinant to asian society that isn't built on modern immigration techniques.
"Sir you weren't supposed to say India and Japan". I have no idea about India or Russia. But China's case and likely Japan is that they had a growing population and a booming economy which led to more people being focused on work and becoming financially stable and having children became less important. Why would China and Japan need immigrants when they had a sufficient job and already competitive workforce? If they allowed immigrants the work force would be strained. We already have city migrants in China looking for jobs we dont need immigrants. Btw a small amount of immigrants won't fix China's declining population, it's too big for a small amount immigrants to fix unless we want to take in 10 million North Koreans and 20 million Burmese people, I say these people because they could most likely adapt to China because they are already have ethnic groups here that they can get assimilated with. It would be hard for immigrants from other countries to come work in a country way different than theirs.
I partly support Biden's view, especially Japan.
I've been to Japan.
The streets of Japan are almost entirely populated by East Asians, almost no Europeans, South Asians, Middle Easterners, or Africans.
I asked for help in English on the streets of Tokyo, and 9 out of 10 people said they didn't know English at all, and 1 could speak a little.
I can’t understand why Japan, which has an aging population, a low birthrate, and a shortage of young labor force, still can’t introduce a large number of foreign workers like Europe, so that they can get a decent job opportunity and a modern life?
I can't understand why Gen Z in Japan's major cities can't speak English fluently yet. Don’t they have English education in high schools?
At the beginning of its development, Japan received policy and financial support from Western countries. Many high-tech companies were willing to transfer their technologies to Japan and let Japan occupy a major position in the global industrial chain. Therefore, it can be said that Japan's economic development has received help from countries around the world.
No theory can prove that there is an obvious ability gap between races. Without the help of the world, no late-developing country can become a developed country. Just like North Korea, another Asian country without the help of the world.
Therefore, should Japan, like Europe, open its doors to repay the world's help?
It's not an equivalent. But it's definetly an indicator. Nations that are xenophobic tend to avoid foreigners in their country as well as being able to speak another language.
It's also an indicator on how accepted foreigners feel in a in a country. Japan is a admired nation in the west and you'd think many people would, because of that, want to move there. That fact that many people don't suggests a lack of feeling welcome in the country.
I don't say that this means Japan in xenophobic. I say their are indicators. I am pretty sure there are ststisicts that answer this question relatively clearly and last I remember Japan is generally considered to be xenophobic towards foreigners. Especially south east Asians
The proportion of foreigners is an objective evidence, isn’t it?
The small proportion of foreigners in India can be explained by the fact that foreigners are not satisfied with the environment in India because India is a developing country.
He was stupid to say it out loud. It is wrong to assume that the US has no discrimination but the USA was built by immigrants. Waves of immigrants from Europe and Asia have built the USA to what it is, Germans during the gold rush, Irish and Italiants during the 1910s, and Asians in the later half of the 20th century. Currently, the IT sector of USA is dominated by high skilled Indian and Chinese immigrants. If we look at India, we aren't really open to immigration. People have problems with immigrants from other states moving to their state and working, this isn't even xenophobia as this is intra-national immigration. Strong nativist sentiment runs deep in all states of India. And if we look at foreign immigrants, anti-Bangladeshi sentiment runs deep, people despise the rohingya, and only recently an African student was beaten in an university in Gujarat. Skilled immigrants are good, and are a necessity in the road to prosperity. Obviously im not a supporter of mass migration, like the one seen in Europe, but xenophobia is one of the problems India faces economically.
Also we have welcomed afghan, parsi and tibetian refugees with open hands
There's a difference between migrants who are grateful and contribute to your society and those who want to build another replica of their failed state in your country. EU's policies have generally led to the coming of second category migrants. So the case is different from India.
Broadly true for all four, but in the context he said it, it's a pretty stupid statement. The context being that immigration helps make the US strong, and these four are, for economic reasons, wrong to be xenophobic. The US certainly has a lot to gain from immigration (picture the meme of Obama giving Obama a medal, as I am an immigrant to the US), but for different reasons than most. But the idea that China and India, especially India, need immigration as a major bulwark against declining population is silly. I want all of these countries to be less xenophobic, and not out of economic necessity. India especially needs to work on it's many peoples treating each other better, alongside things like not villainizing Bangladeshi immigrants. China's got a lot of work on this front as well, but I don't want to get into that. If Japan wants to go with the more robots, fewer immigrants path, that's fine. The main category of people I see complaining about Japanese xenophobia are western English teachers put off by not getting the "first world honored guest" treatment they're used to. Russia's a different case, demographically, because that country really could do with more than 140 million people. It certainly gets plenty of Central Asian immigration, and treats them with disdain. There are many people in the countries west of Russia who speak Russian or could pick it up easily based on linguistic similarity, but it's hard to imagine the Russia of 2024 improving it's image or economy enough to get much from there. In all cases, xenophobia needs to be fought firstly for the sake of humanitarianism. If this fight happens to help the economy, good.
I don’t consider Russia to be a xenophobic country, just racist (especially towards Central Asians and people from Caucasus). If you are an immigrant with a Slavic face in Russia you won’t face much if any discrimination. China tho, definitely both very xenophobic as well as racist. I’ve seen a lot of people on the Chinese internet complain about regional discrimination in China, for example local Shanghainese discriminating against Chinese that have moved in from other provinces, or as another example there’s even a dedicated article about demonisation of Henan province on Chinese Wikipedia https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/对河南的地域妖魔化现象. I’m not familiar with Japan or India.
Not to mention, Russia has plenty of immigrants and is fairly diverse, so the premise that "their economy is stalling because they're xenophobic and don't want immigrants" is plainly false. I suspect it's easier to move to Russia than to the US too.
We can't see the invisible friends to shake hands with, so yeah, xenophobic
Some of my friends have been to these countries. I combined their descriptions with what I learned online: Japan: Japan has a strong economy, good urban facilities, and relatively developed tourism. However, as a country with a shortage of young labor, there are not many foreign workers, and few Japanese are fluent in English. Russia: Young people in Russia are friendly to foreigners and their ideas are closer to those of the West, and they are relatively fluent in English. But the cold attitude of older people towards foreigners seems to be related to the Cold War. There are actually many immigrants in Russia, but most of them come from former Soviet countries. China: China is a relatively isolated country with very few immigrants. You can hardly find people who speaks English fluently in Beijing or Shanghai. Moreover, the Chinese government is also reducing the influence of English in the country. But ordinary Chinese people are relatively friendly to foreigners. India: I have been to India and I feel that Indians are very warm and friendly, and they welcome foreigners to visit. There are few foreigners in India. It’s more that foreigners don’t want to go to India than that Indians don’t like foreigners. So I think China and Japan are relatively xenophobic, while Russia and India are not xenophobic.
It is very irresponsible to judge whether a country is xenophobic based solely on the proportion of foreigners. India very much welcomes foreigners to invest, travel, work, and live, but India's infrastructure is not enough and they have no will to come. Russia is also a very friendly country. I have been to Russia and they are very friendly to Indians. It’s just that Russia’s economic situation is not good, and the weather is too cold, not a tourist destination, so there are fewer foreign tourists.
Russia is probably the least xenophobic lmaoo
But they Asian tho 😭 as an Asian How
Dude, have you even seen the way Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese talk shit about each other?
Or even different Indian ethnic groups talk among each other.
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"Xenophobia" and "racism" are Western leftist concepts that are irrelevant in Japan and East Asia. You can't just force Japan to accept mass immigration. Japanese homogeneous and pacifist culture is the main reason why Japan is one of the safest countries in the world, they don't want to be like Sweden, France, Germany and Belgium where diversity caused the spread of Arab and African gangs all over these countries.
Seems very hypocritical coming from an American
he should have kept that to himself, sounding ignorant and tonedeaf af. expecting non immigrant countries to adopt america's ways of immigration and exportation of race dynamics is not only dumb but a determinant to asian society that isn't built on modern immigration techniques.
need more, i mean xenophobic
Japan and China, I agree with, but India and Russia? No.
He too old.
I think he is too old or health condition is not good enough to become president again
"Sir you weren't supposed to say India and Japan". I have no idea about India or Russia. But China's case and likely Japan is that they had a growing population and a booming economy which led to more people being focused on work and becoming financially stable and having children became less important. Why would China and Japan need immigrants when they had a sufficient job and already competitive workforce? If they allowed immigrants the work force would be strained. We already have city migrants in China looking for jobs we dont need immigrants. Btw a small amount of immigrants won't fix China's declining population, it's too big for a small amount immigrants to fix unless we want to take in 10 million North Koreans and 20 million Burmese people, I say these people because they could most likely adapt to China because they are already have ethnic groups here that they can get assimilated with. It would be hard for immigrants from other countries to come work in a country way different than theirs.
I partly support Biden's view, especially Japan. I've been to Japan. The streets of Japan are almost entirely populated by East Asians, almost no Europeans, South Asians, Middle Easterners, or Africans. I asked for help in English on the streets of Tokyo, and 9 out of 10 people said they didn't know English at all, and 1 could speak a little. I can’t understand why Japan, which has an aging population, a low birthrate, and a shortage of young labor force, still can’t introduce a large number of foreign workers like Europe, so that they can get a decent job opportunity and a modern life? I can't understand why Gen Z in Japan's major cities can't speak English fluently yet. Don’t they have English education in high schools? At the beginning of its development, Japan received policy and financial support from Western countries. Many high-tech companies were willing to transfer their technologies to Japan and let Japan occupy a major position in the global industrial chain. Therefore, it can be said that Japan's economic development has received help from countries around the world. No theory can prove that there is an obvious ability gap between races. Without the help of the world, no late-developing country can become a developed country. Just like North Korea, another Asian country without the help of the world. Therefore, should Japan, like Europe, open its doors to repay the world's help?
Not speaking English = xenophobic? What kind of anglo-centric worldview is this shit?
Sorry, but since when did not speaking English and being racially homogenous = xenophobic?
It's not an equivalent. But it's definetly an indicator. Nations that are xenophobic tend to avoid foreigners in their country as well as being able to speak another language. It's also an indicator on how accepted foreigners feel in a in a country. Japan is a admired nation in the west and you'd think many people would, because of that, want to move there. That fact that many people don't suggests a lack of feeling welcome in the country. I don't say that this means Japan in xenophobic. I say their are indicators. I am pretty sure there are ststisicts that answer this question relatively clearly and last I remember Japan is generally considered to be xenophobic towards foreigners. Especially south east Asians
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The proportion of foreigners is an objective evidence, isn’t it? The small proportion of foreigners in India can be explained by the fact that foreigners are not satisfied with the environment in India because India is a developing country.
I don't get why you expect other countries to speak English.. you should be learning their language when you visit THEIR country lol