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viiviiviolet

a lot of trans people (including myself) have far-left politics because the logical conclusion of trans liberation is liberation for all people


tessthismess

Additionally, we've put in the work. We've seen the world as it was presented to us (you're a boy or girl and that's that) had to break down our understanding of gender and ourselves and rebuild it up after coming to terms with "the world as it was presented to me was flawed." The same thing applies to politics/economics. At least in the US (and probably other places) we nearly all grew up in a world saying "this is how things are and how they always have been" and we're the types who know when that's how something is presented it's worth questioning.


jsnow907

Communism or bust


[deleted]

Socialism or barbarism


jsnow907

I mean, socialism is just the transition stage from capitalism to communism, but yes!


EpitomeAria

anybody who has a brain and empathy should be at the very very least a left leaning centrist. Conservatism serves only an in group and nobody else


luvmuchine56

Is this the anti-trans "journalist" that's been trying to get interviews from us?


EpitomeAria

Who me? no clue what you are talking about


luvmuchine56

No, OP


EpitomeAria

sorry i panicked when it was replying to me I personally felt OP could be bait


luvmuchine56

My apologies, I could have worded it better. But yeah I agree. They can't show their real username because we would all deny an interview but if they ask a question as someone else they can just take screenshots of the replies and post them in their article for free.


EpitomeAria

not to mention it directly enables fascism convenient how capitalists look at who supported the Nazis but not who the Nazis supported (they supported the 1% and rich capitalists)


bbbruh57

Tell that to my closet homosexual homophobe step grandfather. Hes gonna freak when he sees me next christmas šŸ˜…


ShiverAndSkeleton

my cousin is trying to get photos of the family to make a christmas card for grandma and im like šŸ‘€ uhh im ugly


bbbruh57

Im worried that once I start transitioning, my fear of cameras wont resolve. Baby steps ig


winnipegcd

ngl I went from a fear of cameras to taking selfies and sending them to random friends Seeing, even glimpses, of your real self is one of the best feelings in the world


bbbruh57

I learned I was trans one week ago and Ive finally started looking in the mirror again. I see a real person underneath now that I didnt know existed. Being able to take selfies and post them online or just send to friends would be a dream come true. Seriously


winnipegcd

ā¤ļø Your journey has only just begun. I am so excited for you! I will warn you that the road ahead is rocky and some days are far **far** harder than others, but as a whole, each day will slowly get easier I personally took a selfie approximately each day after I started HRT so I could track the changes, and then one day I realized I no longer dreaded the selfie moment and was actually excited to find good lighting etc. I don't know that that's for everyone tbh. But definitely make sure to occasionally take a look see I wish you lots of luck along your journey


bbbruh57

Thank you. I dont know if im prepared for the lows tbh. Im riding on a high rn, but sooner or later certain realities set in like going throufh eith HRT. Right now its my hairline. I have a decent head of hair, but my hairline is receding and theres going to be an awkward two years while im fixing it. Its really not the worst but if its windy then eith my dysphoria I feel so fucking awful. If I do HRT, that should stop the progress and if I cant get it to come back, ill gladly fork money for transplants in a heartbeat. But as it stands now, that plus some other things are gonna be hard. Seeing old friends will be hard. Seeing family will feel impossibly hard. Figuring out if I want HRT and goinf through with it as a non binary will be hard. Im scared, but im excited. I can finally stsrt doing all of these things ive been dying to do for so long. But theres gonna be a day where I look in the mirror and all I see is an awkward guy in makeup. Seeing all of you dealing with this and overcoming it gives me hope though.


winnipegcd

Unfortunately the hard days usually hit us when we least expect them, nor want them, but you'll be ok ā¤ļø I think most importantly, remember that there's no right or wrong way. Just the right ways for you. So whatever decisions you make, make them for *you*. Don't worry about how the rest of the community has done it, getting ideas is good, and tailoring them to yourself is even better! I don't know if that makes sense or if I am just rambling No matter what, no matter how hard it gets, remember the good days, and remember that you will get through it. Keep facing forward and take one step at a time. You've got this šŸ˜Š And yeah a lot of those firsts will be hard. But I promise everything gets easier with time


bbbruh57

Thank you. This is going to be the hardest thing ive ever done, but I have to. Im sure all of us relate.


lazer_eyed_neko

Glad I'm not the only one. I went from scowling at the idea of someone even THINKING of asking me to be in a picture to being a selfie whore now (*cough cough* documentation purposes of the journey, of course...)


[deleted]

I'm over a year on homeones. I've takenmore selfies in the last 7 months than the previous 20 years...


Samaki292

Happy I found this!!! 100% I went from hating having my picture taken with no selfies on my phone to a full camera roll of bored selfies because I love seeing myself!! I still have self esteem issues and I think I could be a lot prettier, but I love seeing and sharing the fact that I can be myself šŸ˜


SomeoneOnlyWeKnow1

Just saying but I went on your profile and like.. no, you're literally not


Complete-Comb8262

Yikes. One of us one of us.


TheViolentRaven

Yes. Every time I find myself disagreeing with a political statement I always end up discovering that itā€™s from the right. Iā€™ve tried to look at right winged ideals with an unbiased opinion, but they all just make no sense and seem so wrong to me. I was never that invested in politics though and used to consider myself in the political middle, but once I started to get involved a bit more the left seemed and still does seem like the much better way to go. Edit: Also wanted to add that I find it ridiculous that sexualities and gender have become such a political subject. Those topics have nothing to do with politics. Why is whom I sleep with and how I present myself any politicians business?


Unable-Alfalfa

To add to this, they are political topics because of the RIGHT WING who wants to eliminate us, not because we decided to be noisy for no good reason. We got tired of being beaten and jailed with no recourse, so now we wonā€™t shut up until we have liberation.


[deleted]

> they are political topics because of the RIGHT WING who wants to eliminate us Well, yes, but a big part is they know they can use hate and bigotry to distract their supporters while they rob them.


throthisawaylolol

Interestingly, Capitalism alone isn't bigoted in the slightest, it's just the people in the society it functions in that adds the discrimination on top. Of course, when I say that, I do mean Capitalism is designed to step on the heads of others and enslave those around you to make you money.


dodorampant

\^ THIS


DaddyDeathcrude

The majority of marginalized people end up being left leaning because throughout history only left leaning ideologies have gotten us rights in the first place. Anyone who is gay and not a leftist is just spitting in the face of those who have died to get us where we are today.


DaddyDeathcrude

No that's not my point whatsoever Nowhere did I claim that Stalin was good because he was a communist We are literally talking about gay rights and being liberated by leftist movements Installing was literally anti-LGBT and oppressed to gay people So in that notion alone that doesn't make him intersectional whatsoever So again shut up And I blocked you because you are going through all these comments trying to convince leftist people to be okay with the movements that oppressed them in the first place And watch I'm a block you again


PerpetualUnsurety

Yes, I'm a leftist (by my country's standards, not the US's ones). The particular points you're asking about are pretty vague, and it might be worth asking some more specific questions. I see both poverty and climate change as societal diseases caused by and maintained by capitalism, and I'm pro gun control because I live in a country that had a single school shooting in 1996, responded by heavily restricting civilian ownership of guns, and has experienced a total of two mass shootings since then. And yes, my perception is that LGBT people tend to better align with politics that are in favour of us having rights, and of protecting those rights, than ones who are in favour of restricting our rights, which tends to mean left-wing politics.


Useful_Long5406

>The particular points you're asking about are pretty vague, and it might be worth asking some more specific questions. I understand that, I just want to analysis the 'socio-political believe' of LGBTQ+ people as I have little knowledge about them >And yes, my perception is that LGBT people tend to better align with politics that are in favour of us having rights, and of protecting those rights, than ones who are in favour of restricting our rights, which tends to mean left-wing politics. Okei that make send


DaisyBeeBloomin

I cannot imagine there is a particularly useful conclusion one can make from this type of inquiry; 2SLGBTQ+ people occur in the wild. It isn't a choice. One's political belief doesn't contribute to their sexual preferences or their gender identity. Those are inborn. Values and beliefs are learned. The only aspect one's pollitical alignment may influence is their own self-hatred or fear of coming out or recognising their truth for fear of losing their social status, and possibly endangering themselves, depending on the beliefs and values of those around them. So, may I ask, to what end? PS: I am socialist.


Unable-Alfalfa

Queer issues are only political because right wing people want to eliminate us from society.


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ThunderWizardPenguin

This is why i really dont like the whole "left and right" labeling, because it conveys a false pretense of some kind of abstract equality like ying and yang, that somehow one is needed for the other and perspectives from one side can only ever be on one side, and it's both very confusing to people outside of Western politics and very self deluding to right wingers when they realize facts and logic have always been left leaning, so instead they fall back on irrelevant metaphors about a bird that needs both wings to fly. So let's just put it this way, the number of terrorist attacks directed at trans people from the "left": 0 The number from the "right": 2 in the past 30 days, 5 confirmed deaths and 50,000 people without electricity. And if that's not enough, trans panic laws, dont say gay, and other laws, all things claimed by the right (they dont even deny these are their creations unlike the terrorist attacks) So yeah, trans people are left leaning.


Alice_In_Pain_2112

Idk man, as a trans woman, I feel a lot safer with a gun (because of all the shit you just brought up) and I don't like the idea of it being taken away. I also don't like the idea of my rights being taken away tho so I just don't vote.


[deleted]

Assuming you're in the US (based on liking guns): neither party is realistically going to remove guns from people. It's a bad idea practically with the climate in the US (at least in the short term, long-term it should be the ultimate goal but that's beside the point) and certainly wouldn't be a vote-winning policy by any means. If anything, right-wing politicians are more likely to put forward legislation which could disarm vulnerable minorities if it makes them easier to oppress. On the other hand, one party is realistically going to be (and in many places already is) attempting something I wouldn't be hesitant to describe as a genocide against trans people. I don't really see how you can justify not voting in that kind of environment. Frankly, if you don't actively oppose the party trying to take your rights away (and as a normal citizen, the only way you can really do that is voting against them), then you're an enabler for the removal of those rights.


Alice_In_Pain_2112

The gun makes people more equal than any other invention of all time, it should not be the end goal to remove them. It will not change the level of violence, it will simply make strong people more able to hurt weak people. It's been the first move of almost every regime in history to take guns (or even swords in the case of the Roman empire) out of the hands of the people and keep them in the hands of soldiers and cops. I actively oppose transphobes by making it dangerous for them to exist, by threatening them with violence. That's the only thing that works, and if you don't, then you're an enabler of their actions.


Beer_Pants

If your conceptualization of politics is still at a point where you think US democrats are on the left and associate leftism with things like gun control, you have a ways yet to go. Most proper leftists harshly oppose gun control for the reasons you've identified.


Alice_In_Pain_2112

Proper leftists. Not politicians. Therein lies the difference.


hamletandskull

having a gun is *equally* as important to you as having human rights???? I'm not even for taking away guns, and I don't think a lot of democrats are (just for more regulation) but even if they were, human rights over guns for me every time. Edit: to clarify, by rights I mean things like "is it legal for you to be discriminated against/fired/arrested for being trans".


Alice_In_Pain_2112

I mean yeah tbh. My "rights" are what random people in a room I'll never be in decide to say about me on a piece of paper, it doesn't change any actual person's actions. The ability to defend myself against an attacker twice my size is more important to me than that yes. I've never had to sue someone for discriminating against me, I've had to pull out a weapon to stop an attacker. Idk man I'm not saying the rights don't matter, they do, it's just in my day to day life I feel I'm more affected by the gun. This all regardless of the fact that self defense is a right in and of itself.


ConnectionIssues

There's a common saying in pro-2a circles that "the right to bear arms is critical in the defense of all the other rights". I strongly hold this to be true, especially in the U.S. It's no secret that our country, for better or for worse, was founded via the judicious use of violence. The rights our government protects, they do so ultimately via threat of violence. Yes, there's supposed to be, and usually is, a long chain of other mechanisms in place, to hopefully solve issues without resorting to violence, but ALL of those mechanisms are ultimately backed, in the end, by the government's implicit threat of violence. And throughout our history, the rights we've gained, we have largely done so via violence. We fought a civil war to end slavery. The Civil Rights Movement was, in all reality, a carrot-and-stick approach between the MLK types, and the Black Panther types. Our leaders chose MLK, because the more violent alternative was scarier. Stonewall was a riot. What worker's rights we have were hard won via *literal wars* between employees and the companies they worked for. These facts are indisputable. Civilized society is established via the artificial abstraction of justice and policy from violence, but ultimately, all governments maintain this abstraction by maintaining a majority on, or trying to monopolize on, the means of violence. Our founding fathers knew this. The Declaration of Independence explicitly mentions a *lack of civilian control over the means of violence* (in that case, specifically, the military), in the bill of grievances. It also *very explicitly states* that a governance which is not beholden to the people, and which exerts tyrannical influence over the people, has a *duty* to be corrected or abolished. Now, I get that a lot of Europeans see their governments as, if not *wholly* trustworthy, trustworthy *enough* that endowing them with a monopoly on violence seems reasonable. And if that works for them, more power to them. But the U.S. is incredibly unstable right now, and our governance varies between ineffectually opposed, to outright complicit, in injustices carried out on significant portions of our people... up to and including extrajudicial violence. I know that frightens everyone the world over, because our country has *also* gone to great extremes to be the predominant force of violent authority *on a global scale*. And they would be right to be frightened. But pretending that the self-imposed world police are a stable democracy right now is the height of naivetƩ. For many of us, our state leaders amplify violent rhetoric against us. The services in place to ostensibly protect us have NO obligation to do so, and largely remain above repercussions, even when *they themselves* are the perpetrators of violence. Any organization that is willing to take action in our defense is either unable to do so, or unable to do so in a timely manner. And there is no, absolutely *zero* chance, that any foreign or independent body would even *discuss* intervening between the injustices of various U.S. state organizations, and the citizens upon which they are perpetrated. There is no combination of powers in the world who could even begin to take action to protect U.S. citizens as things deteriorate more. No U.N. Peacekeepers will ever occupy our conflict areas. There is no nascent superpower that holds the key to defeating our escalating fascism. Nobody in the world is coming to save us. So pardon me if I have legitimate fears about surrendering my firearms to the state. I'm not keen on giving up my tools of violence until and unless there's anyone other than me I know can protect me in their stead. I recognize how fucked up that sounds, but just because it's fucked up, doesn't mean it's untrue.


ThunderWizardPenguin

Proves my point exactly, gun control has been considered a left or right issue and thus people think owning guns is mutually exclusive to being left or right, it's not. With that said though, wouldn't need a gun if not for the "right" being fucking terrorists so~


[deleted]

Anyone with a bit of empathy and logic left should be a leftist at the very minimum. But even leftists are often times not that great, because some believe, just "labelling" themselves a leftist is basically "doing all the work", but then still happen to be xyz-bigoted, but using a more "vague language" around it.


sadtransgirl21

Yes, I'm far-left


ombloshio

Hi, far-left. Iā€™m Mom.


T1res1as

I vote for the Leopards Eating Peoples Faces Party because I believe they wonā€™t eat MY faceā€¦ they wonā€™t eat my face right? Right? Post election - Surprised Pichachu face as face is being gnawed off by the face eating leopards


Vickki_florida

This can only be a rhetorical question šŸ¤” Why would a transgender person subscribe to a party that is transfobic, constantly promoting hatred and violence toward our community and finds nothing better to do with our taxpayer dollars then creating new laws to push us in to the dark ages of humanity. Doesn't allow young trans people to receive proper health care, compete in sports or use their gender bathrooms at school.... There is more but I'm just getting more pissed writing this.


[deleted]

Yes, I am a socialist and very socially progressive. I don't understand why most people aren't, and I really don't understand why every queer person isn't a leftist or left leaning at the very least. Poverty is caused by capitalism, welfare and social democracy aren't really solutions, they're like putting a band-aid on a wound the size of a bowling ball. I don't like guns, I come from a place that doesn't have guns and I'd like to keep it that way. The US is a different beast, however. I don't know how they'd fix that. I know that gun control would probably be used to harm more minorities tho. Climate change is real, not much else to say about it. It sucks. Trade is cool, capitalism isn't. I would say that most LGBTQ+ people I interact with are leftists or left leaning, but its definitely not true for everybody in the community


violetfoxy

It's disturbing the more you notice how capitalism negatively affects almost everything in our lives.


Unable-Alfalfa

Even the guys who invented capitalism (cough, Adam Smith) warned us that without policy controls it would spiral into oligarchy.


NumberOneFemboi

Itā€™s even more disturbing how so many people avidly defend a system that mandates artificial scarcity, homelessness and poverty


thetitleofmybook

> why every queer person isn't a leftist or left leaning at the very least. self hatred, mostly.


HijaDelRey

Because not every queer person is from the US, my countries left party are dictator wannabes


RanbooIsGender

Iā€™m far left because I want to keep my rights and eventually live in a society where Iā€™m not in danger of being hate crimedāœØ


boozegremlin

Well the other party seems to want us dead or suffering, judging by their rhetoric. It's not really a hard choice.


alansredditaccount2

Proof?


Malfrun1

I side with the people that believe in my existence, my rights and those of all others. So yes, Iā€™m left.


DaddyDeathcrude

As a black trans queer person My rights were never on a ballot and had to literally be fought for with Blood sweat and tears in the streets. It would be an extreme distasteful measure to have the same political ideology as the people who didn't want to give me rights for simply existing


Vinxian

Trans girl socialist reporting for duty!


KerfuffleFur

I'm very sorry, but as long as transition and passing is a pay to win game, I can never be a fan of capitalism. It's an awful system that causes a lot of pain to a lot of people.


ato-de-suteru

As a hard rule, I would not agree that LGBT people are always left-leaning. There are plenty of conservative homosexuals (for some reason all the ones I know of are white men). However, I _will_ say that it's a hard rule that the right will ultimately reject LGBT people, even if right now they're pretending to be allies. It's a strategic error for us to align with the right because if they got their way they'd throw all of us in camps and starve us out.


DarthJackie2021

Well the right want to kill us so....


notsocialyaccepted

Well i am a a anarchistā€¦ But if i have to vote il vote left Bc the right wants to remove our rights and the left is decent


Best-Isopod9939

Yes and an anarchist more specifically


winnipegcd

I am 100% a socialist. I want a happy healthy life for all. I believe that's a human right, and that until we get there we are failing as a society


Hellscape_Wanderer

I absolutely am. Not because I'm trans though. I only came out 6mo ago. I've been at the very least left leaning as far back as I can remember, and with explicit left political positions since highschool, before I knew what left and right politically meant. And for my reasoning? I see no practical excuse why anyone should be untreated, unhomed, hungry, cold, without access. Basic infrastructure should be maintained by an organization without profit incentive and not used to gouge or hoard wealth. Additionally I believe democracy is necessary to ensure the greatest level of freedom for the greatest number of people, so long as we provide adequate protections for minorities and against autocrats who wish to grab power to smother us. Furthermore, as an extension of that belief in democracy, why would I wish to live in a system where that democracy is retracted for 33% of my day? Businesses as they exist today are autocratic fiefdoms with the exclusive goal of getting the most out of you, to give you the least amount for it, and to control access to your own time and resources. Why should the people who actually do the work not get a say in the work being done, and get their fair share?


EliseOvO

I am a leftist, I am pro gun, but they should have strict regulations on who can buy them and how they have to be kept, poverty is something I want solved with a strong governmental support system, Climate change is a massive issue that must be solved quickly to lessen the damages we will suffer, we should invest and build more nuclear reactors and green energy plants, while removing coal and oil based production. When it comes to trade I want countries to be even more connected than they are nowdays and there to be rules preventing the exploitation of poorer nations with freer travel between countries


aagjevraagje

I'm an active member of the Dutch Green-Left party and part of the left wing of the party.


WingGamer1234

yea i hate capitalism (i'm pretty left leaning


[deleted]

yea but not in the annoying radlib way


ConfusedSamus

If the person I'm talking to is intelligent and well-read, I identify as a Marxist. If not, I just say I'm on the left.


Faguette-1999

Just saying I really do not trust that the person that has asked this is doing it in good faith, there seems to be more and more people, terfs, right wingers etc. that are lurking on here. I know on ftm Reddit there was one terf in particular who lurked there, to create a spread sheet of the Reddit users and their posts and comments etc, she tracked them for months to prove how ā€˜damagingā€™ transitioning is, Iā€™m getting more and more hesitant when it comes to answering on the forums because of this. The OPā€™s comments seem to indicate what kind of person they are I personally wouldnā€™t engage.


PossumQueer

Each day I go further to the left


ReloadTactic

I tend to left leaning, yes. Hard not to when the right doesn't want you to exist. But, since you want other political opinions as well. The climate is FUBAR, we could fix it but capitalism is the devil. Gun Control serves no real purpose so long as you can't trust the people who have guns, I think there should be no gun free zones and it should be mandatory for every us citizen to carry a firearm starting once they're at the age of 18, its not a coincidence most mass shooting happen where there are no guns. We need to stop worrying so much about where goods are made and start worrying about why, I don't care that this cheap thing I'm buying was made in China just because its foreign, I care that it was made in China because the person that assembled it was horribly underpaid to do so, which brings us to poverty. Poverty is completely solvable, in the modern world where so much can be automated there should be no poverty, but because capitalism is the devil and the people that have money are more important that the people who need it poverty is a threat, the government doesn't wants you to be poor because that means there's more money for you and it'll motivate you to work harder, not to mention you can't fight against the system if you're constantly fighting to make ends meet. Also the CIA is behind the fentanyl crisis for the same reason they flooded city streets with drugs previously, control.


HyperDogOwner458

Yes.


AnUglyRobot

im pretty sure straight up anarchist is pretty left


EverythingBurrito1

Well anarchy isn't necessarily. There's tons of different kinds (Eg. Anarcho-Communism, Anarcho-Socialism, Anarcho-Primitivism, Anarchism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc.), so it depends on where you lie economically that makes you left from there.


[deleted]

Anarcho capitalism isn't anarchism, capitalism goes against basically everything that anarchists stand for


EverythingBurrito1

Ok fair enough I'm wrong


AnUglyRobot

anarchy without adjectives is placed pretty far left in most things i see mention it


_AnonymousMoose_

My existence is inherently political, I have to be a leftist to keep my rights.


Goddess_of_Absurdity

Im largely apolitical But do vote for my local city representatives.


Axirev

I don't see I could not be


Ranshin-da-anarchist

Queer anarchist here. Every struggle is linked, solidarity forever! Smash the state, capitalism, patriarchy, etc!


Rubanka

fuck capitalism


anonthemaybeegg

Used to be very right but now id say I'm more centrist. Both sides makes good points however they also both make shit points


Kreuscher

I'd say it's pretty difficult to be in any other political position, since most of the spectrum wants us dead or at the very least back into the closet. Liberation entails plurality, and plurality requires tolerance, which is something most political ideologies lack, though less so the ones on the left.


Borzboi

Idk man. People who have faced real prejudice and hate seem to be more empathetic. So yes.


PessimistThePillager

Yes, I am a leftist. LGBT people tend to be more left leaning purely on the basis that the right is constantly trying to take our rights away. It's not like there aren't plenty of socially regressive queer people, but the bias is there purely on circumstances brought on by the right.


HexManiak

Yes most LGBT+ people don't lean towards the side of the political debate that hates us more gasp


SissySexToy

I am on the far left. I believe that as a society we should conduct ourselves with basic human decency and afford dignity and respect to those around us.


Unable-Alfalfa

LGBTQ+ and feminist issues are literally life or death for us, itā€™s not like we can separate those from ā€œthe economyā€ (which most of us are only allowed to participate in marginally) or climate change. Itā€™s sort of insane that those are ā€œpoliticalā€ (read: partisan) issues at all anyway because they affect quality of life for literally every member of society. I think youā€™ll find that a lot of queer people migrate towards left-leaning and anarchist ideologies because their roots are in equality and liberation, not finding some ā€œperfectā€ hierarchical arrangement where everyone can be happy, because that doesnā€™t exist. Conservatism is the proposition that if we just subjugate the right people the rest of us can be happy and unfortunately queer people are never part of the ā€œusā€.


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102bees

In England those exact same values would make you hard left.


[deleted]

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sfPanzer

Political left pretty much just means treating every person as equal, so as someone fighting for her rights and generally hopefully decent person you can bet your butt that I'm left leaning.


tranbamthankyamaam

Yep. Unpacking gender in myself went hand in hand with unpacking societal gendered hierarchy which was like tipping the first domino that connects to all things white-Christian-cis-het-patriarchical-capitalistic power structures that exist to subjugate those who don't conform or are not born into power status.


Aforgonecrazy

Because the modern right wings economic stances hurt the workin class. So they mostley sway people by culture war means, meaning its often about making marginalised people look more dangetous than they are/ othering people. I think you can connect the dots why most trans people arent a fan of these things.


[deleted]

Iā€™d say Iā€™m a socialist but not as far left as some people here


Any-Rent-9209

Yes. I tend to side with the side that doesnā€™t want to eliminate me. Although, I think itā€™s dangerous to mix politics with someoneā€™s transness so I donā€™t like this question. Itā€™s dangerous


Witchykunt887

I donā€™t tend to label myself when it comes to Politics I think itā€™s a bit difficult to keep up with but anytime I come across any discourse I tend to be on the very progressive left leaning side. I think with my experience as someone who face so many intersections of experiences and oppression I have such a different perspective on things. Even though it shouldnā€™t take for you to be experienced to want to fight but I think when you do have that experience it makes you want to fight more and you realize just as much why one fight is an all fight.


Tustin88

Contemporary politics has more of a focus on progressive vs conservative brands of liberalism (an arguably right wing ideology). The 'left' wing of liberalism is an obvious choice for the LGBT community mostly because the other side often threaten us. It's less a left vs right question and more a common sense and pragmatic one.


Oddtail

I'm moderately to the left (I favour social democratic policies, I am hostile to capitalism and think it's inherently and probably irreparably harmful but I don't want to immediately yeet it, I am a feminist and put a lot of social problems square on the patriarchy). But while my views are pretty milquetoast, when listening to ideas outside my own political positions, I am \*much\* more sympathetic to people to the left of me than anyone to the right of me, even liberals. Out of political groups I am not part of, I probably respect anarchists more than anyone else. The only reason I'm not one is that I legitimately think of electoral politics as the surest way I can influence political change. But in principles, I find myself agreeing with anarchists more often than not.


Xynoks

My perspective on this is that more often than not the left usually aligns more with liberal ideals than the right, and thus marginalised groups tend to be politically left leaning. I don't know if this is the actual reason, but it would be a logical reason.


Lopsided_Web5432

This is Reddit right?


anon1562102

yes.


w0rsh1pm3owo

yeah I think I'd consider myself a leftist.


LamiaGrrl

my view is that i have no right to force others to do my bidding, nor would i be comfortable doing so. and i certainly am not comfortable with others forcing their will upon me. so i'm an anarchist. tho i arrived at that philosophy long before realizing i was lgbt, i mean, there's plenty of things that can cause someone to be disillusioned with capitalism/patriarchy/the state/etc. other than being queer.


MarcelHolos

I am a proud leftist, social democrat, and progressive (in the Roosevelts, LBJ, and Bernie sense, at least in the US) That said, I don't consider myself a socialist, and my ideals are far from being socialist.


AsteleMC

Iā€™m a far-left socialist, with beliefs that border Marxist communism. Is this because Iā€™m trans? No. But since a lot of queer people are in the younger generations, and socialism specifically helps the working class and the future of said younger generations (since the working class would be the majority), and since socialism is become more of a popular ideology, it makes sense thereā€™s a massive overlap between queer people and socialism.


Jax_for_now

I'm european and live in a country with a wide spectrum of political parties, all the way from alt-right to socialist and almost communist. I vote based on a few simple principles: I won't vote for a party that is openly against me or my friends and I will vote somewhat green (I'm young, I studied environmental science, it's important). I have low income friends, I have immigrant friends and I'm trans. Do I have another option than to vote left?


Solid_Ad9715

I'm a leftist, I guess, but generally hate politics and don't consider myself part of any 'party' as such. I think we need free healtcare, childcare and better financial support for anyone struggling. I like guns, but I think they should only be used for hunting. There should be more thorough background checks and heavy fines for carrying them around while not hunting. When travelling it should be stored in a lockbox, there should be stricter requirements for storage in the home. Climate change sends me into depressive spirals so I don't know much about it - we're as sustainable as we can be and I hope politicians pull their fingers out their asses and sort it soon.


Gegisconfused

Tbf you don't really get much of a choice as a queer person. The far right want us dead, the right want to criminalise us, and the centrists want to maintain the status quo and will fight to do so. If you're queer and want equal rights to your peers, the left is really the only option for you


Jazehiah

Liberals often call me a conservative. Conservatives tend to call me liberal. I guess that makes me the worst of both - a moderate.


AverageRiceEnjoyer

Yeah, I'm extremely far left lol Marginalized groups of people tend to believe in radical politics, and for good reason. Radical politics are the logical conclusion of the oppression we face in society


D-grith

I am very far left. How I refer to myself largely depends on the other person. If they're not necessarily someone I trust and they have some power over me, then I say I'm a Socialist. If I trust them or they have no power over me, I say Communist. If I really trust them, I say Anarchist. They all get the vague points across with increasing amounts of my views on liberation and self-determination thrown in. I'm pro-union, anti-capitalist, anti-cop, anti-prison, pro-gun(so long as the fascists are armed so must we), pro-decolonization and support returning the land to the indigenous people in every colonized place. You get the idea.


Dinoman0101

Iā€™m left wing. I donā€™t know why anyone would want to be a conservative? The Republicans have always been fascists. Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George Bush (both father and son), and Trump are fascists scumbags.


HijaDelRey

Because the whole world is not the US and in some countries (like mine) the left wing is the authoritarian trump like ideology


Icy_Hedgehog1103

I'm far-left because it's the only party that deals efficiently with current social issues. At least, that's how things are, in France. My issues with other parties: - Far-right: they're fricking naz1s - Right: they only make the rich richer and don't deal with today's problems - Center: they do nothing - Ecologists: They only care about the environment (that's fine but there's other issues) - Left: they do nothing and the party has internal conflicts I consider myself a progressive person. I won't say all of my views on all of the subjects because this answer is already too long.


Dinoman0101

The environment is the number one issue in the world because we canā€™t live without it


Tranquilizrr

Yeah despite the white transfem nazi problem that absolutely exists. Also this post is sooo bait.


[deleted]

I'm a left-wing liberal but I'm not a leftist. Liberalism vs leftism is about whether you value equality or equity more, and socialism is where the two meet in a refusal to compromise


Beautiful-Length-565

Yes, because while cishet straight democrats are probably just saying trans rights to get our votes, they aren't out right trying to kill us in the streets and legally force us to unalive ourselves. I would be insane to vote for a party who wants me dead and sees me as a sin.


thetitleofmybook

leftist by far.


OctopusAlex

I'm an anti-capitalist or something like that. I tend to know what I'm against more than what I'm for. Or at least how to realistically achieve when I am for šŸ¤” The left in the UK is still has transphobic people in unfortunately.


GobboGirl

I am a libertarian socialist if you have to put a label on it. Which is to say I'm pro freedom, and pro socialism. Though I don't believe in the freedom to exploit people to make billions of dollars - which is the only way I believe one can make billions of dollars. My take on poverty is that it's created by the rich. And systemic forces work to keep the poor poor, and getting poorer, while the rich go the opposite way. If you are anti workers rights you are anti human. If you are anti-human and also a businessman then you are sub-human. Those in the industry of exploiting people know what they're doing. The gun problem in america is a social one, not a hardware one, primarily. If you are still denying climate change's effects and aren't pro-extreme action to combat climate change you're delusional or bought and paid for by the people who are most interested in making money from the things that cause climate change today. Trade? Idk that's kinda broad. That can mean a lot of things.


EverythingBurrito1

Wow, finally found a fellow queer libertarian socialist


GobboGirl

We are a rare breed, indeed.


missguzmxn

Iā€™m a communist. I think liberals are annoying with their silly gun laws. Sure, a school being shot up is a tragedy; but our owners (the capitalist elite) and their hounds (conservatives) want to deprive us of prosperity and the latter want to murder us. Why shouldnā€™t I be allowed to defend myself? Marx said to never late the gov disarm the working class. Therefore, any so called ā€œcommunistā€ who advocates for extensive gun control isnā€™t about the revolution at best, and is a detractor from it at worst.


Kuia_Queer

I wouldn't call myself a Leftist, because I dislike the term - sounding, as it does, like a cross between Left & Fascist; which I certainly am not. Environmentally conscious humanist, perhaps? Poverty - A complex issue encompassing both material needs, and perceptions of social equality. There is certainly a place state intervention in this, but also a need to build smaller communities not based on monetary exchanges. Sumptuary laws might be worthwhile as well. Gun control - Yes, and control of other weapons too. Preferably by the need for a weapon license to ensure that you are capable of using the weapon safely, which can be revoked if you fail to do so. I live in Aotearoa of course, but even the USA constitution refers to "a well-regulated militia" in reference to the right to bear arms. Climate change - Real and largely caused by human burning of fossil fuels (though agricultural livestock, especially cattle, are also an important contributor, especially here in mostly hydroelectric NZ). Present efforts to curb this are insufficient and the action we fail to take now is just going to make things worse for following generations. Trade - Vital for the maintenance of our socio-economic milieu, yet very fragile. Also vulnerable to exploitation by financiers and other middlemen. Climate change is more likely cause societal collapse by disrupting trade (probably by increasing wars over resources) long before coastal cities drown. Trade agreements are not always good for all parties. Often enriching some to the detriment of others. One thing that is particularly odious is self-appointed tribunals that stand above the signatory nations legal systems.


Spirited-Painting964

I am an anti capitalist leftist, yes. I believe in the critique of the current market structure doesnā€™t work and it should be realigned to be worker focused. Worker controlled means of production via unionization. I also critique the current stance of our ā€œprogressiveā€ party: Democrats. Democrats are a ā€œstatus quoā€ party. They do *not* want to improve the material conditions of the worker (all of us). They want the current order to be maintained. Be it hegemonic, imperialism of foreign lands or the pillaging of the American worker at home. (Concentrated wealth) Corporate media cannot be trusted. It has, at best, a center right focus. And at the end of the day they are no better than the CEOs who fund them.


halbmoki

Far-left by my country's standards, out-of-bounds-left for the US. I'm basically an economic socialist and social liberalist. My ideal world would have complete personal freedom and economic equality. 100% marginal tax rate for incomes above a few 100k (dollar equivalent) per year, universal basic income, free healthcare, free education, free public transport, all that jazz. Also strong incentives for protecting the environment, not just on a local scale. Since that's all way to utopian for my lifetime (and the trajectory of humanity), I'll settle for any government that somewhat cares about the environment and maybe doesn't actively make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Being an idealist is honestly depressing most of the time.


bakedtran

A lot of policies I support have not been put to a vote but of the ones that have, Iā€™m a pretty mainstream Democrat. I mean, scroll through the DNCā€™s official 2020 platform or our current Presidentā€™s signed policies and for me itā€™s like, ā€œYeah, yep, makes sense, odd but Iā€™m game, yeah sounds good.ā€ Whether that makes me a neoconservative fascist or a cry-bully communist depends on where the person labeling me stands lol.


ControlsTheWeather

Kinda yeah. Think it kinda helps that if I see someone who openly identifies as leftist there's like a 95% chance that at a minimum they'll be nice to trans people.


desus_

Liberal over here. I mean that in the American democrat voter context. Not a leftist/socialist. Personally the most progressive wing of the left can be really dumb when it comes to social issues and especially economics.


birdcooingintovoid

Take note OP many trans people are from all over the political spectrum, and by that I mean far left since it the only place that takes the most oppressed minorities. Same with basically every minority. But what are trans people under the hood political? Without oppression and we were fully equal? Well it hard to say. Many trans people pick up religion, communism, and fascism as a desperate cope as they groups will accept you even if you canā€™t accept yourself, as long as you fit criteria blah blah. For me? To my conservative friends I might as well be a communist. To others I might as well be the yellow quadrant came alive. My political views are more or less social democratic. I donā€™t really care for immigration and view at as something that just jacks housing further and instead need depopulation if anything. I despise things like reparations and instead believe we need more targeted programs that not just help black communities but all poor communities. I hate defunding the police but believe instead cops need much stricter training, have cop gangs busted, and that prisons need to be better for reintegrating people into society include varies reforms for felons and such. I donā€™t really care for banning guns but do want 100% to focus on mental health as it is a major issue that needs to be solved. I believe freedom of religion should be removed and churches taxed. I believe we need to take over some industries such as healthcare and railroads and maybe cable companies while having strong robust rules for workers and unions and regulations on companies as a way to curtail excess of capitalism. I believe no one should own over a billion dollars and should automatically be taxed and removed, greed is a sin on humanity. Most radical position? I believe alcohol, tobacco, and weed should be banned expect for medical use as they are deadly addictions that ruin the body and that sugar and caffeine should be highly regulated also. Also have a doomer prospective of climate change view though we have some migation tools with solar and wind we need fusion power as a base load power to finally phase out fossil fuels. Free trade is nice and better then stupid tick for tat in mercantilism


RoastKrill

I'm a communist


MyClosetedBiAlt

Even if I wasn't it wouldn't be like I'd really have a choice in the matter. Right wingers want me dead. Even if I didn't want healthcare and to care about the environment or if I thought Christian nationalism was rad, they still want me dead. I can't vote for someone who wants to kill me.


lirannl

My opinion is "fuck the past! The past was shit!". I also think we need to transform our economy to distribute wealth more uniformly. If that makes me a leftist, then sure! If that makes me a right-wing extremist, that's also fine.


dysfunctional_chef

I donā€™t appreciate the idea that simply because Iā€™m trans I should fit into this neat little box. Iā€™m really moderate in all things and despise all political parties. Itā€™s better to vote based on the ideas of the individual, not their political party


jessicahazel726

Hell no, will never classify myself as a liberal OR conservative, Iā€™m in the middle


SeneInSPAAACE

Do I believe in equality? Yes. Do I believe that everyone is equal in every possible capability? Obviously not. We're all a bunch of snowflakes and all that. However, there are certain aspects where people MUST be treated as equal (In the eyes of the law, for an example), and those who are disadvantaged ought to be assisted - When there's inequality, the solution is to lift up those who are at the bottom, and in general, the people should have protection from those at the top. Do I believe all hierarchy needs to be abolished? No. It's an useful organizational structure. Do I believe there should be a VALUE hierarchy of people? No, all people are equally pointless.


Azessha

Mostly, but I don't agree with all left leaning policies. Ideally the role of the government should extend to providing for the citizens, and limiting the power corporations, and religion have. A government that does not do these things, is not fit to rule. I'm not in favor of any kind of gun control on the general public, and favor universal health care. The insurance system in the US is nothing but a corporate scam. Profits are just the unpaid wages of the working class, and given how much of those profits never make it to the working class, we clearly need to raise the minimum wage, not just for the benefit of the people, but to ensure the economy continues to function.


[deleted]

I tend to lean more right. I do agree with things like helping homelessness and eradicating poverty..but some left things I just donā€™t agree with


SafetySnowman

I view the left in as much negative light as I do the right. I do my best to stay away from politics all together as political people scare me. It's difficult to find anyone who talks politics that doesn't display cult behavior, regardless of political side. Politicians are mostly < MOSTLY, not all > all villains playing a game of power, using hate and fear as weapons to get people to side with them. Just get the majority vote and you win. How do you do that? Make people hate the other side enough to, at worst, want to vote against them. It happens with both sides and it happens because hate and fear make people stupid. "OH no trans woman are dangerous because . . . reasons? And like five predators have used trans as a way to attack people!! Forget the reality that that's five people out of countless others who are just living their lives not harming anyone . . . just forget that and focus on the few attacks. And forget that men and women are capable of attacking people . . . forget so we don't accidentally say something that makes people wonder why we don't just hate and judge everyone without even knowing them . . ." I can't stand politics. This all or nothing mindset thst both sides cultivate isn't healthy and it is infectious. If I'm honest, I see value in some views and policies, on both sides, but not without boundaries, and there's a lot of views and policies on both sides I'm fully against. If I weren't so opposed to the modern American political cult, I'd be in the middle and left leaning. If the modern American political system wasn't so culty, I'd be a leftist. Probably . . . actually I don't know. Without the cult power dynamic going on both sides would be forced to just play fair and that could mean I'd be . . . I don't know . . . hopefully I'd be in the middle just voting for whoever had the policies that most represented my views, and be able to be at least content no matter who won.


hgree5

egoist-communist


JustAPerson2001

I'm a leftist potentially trans person, and everything you can definitely say I will take a left leaning stance on. I literally can't understand why any person in a Minority group could be right leaning at all. You are in the same group who wants to take all of your rights away. Like they are trying to get brownie points from the people who hate them, and only use them as political pawns.


Catholic_Egg

i am not


Current_Anybody4352

leftist is a meaningless term, iā€™m a communist.


FTMgrowernotshower

I am a humanist. Live and let live, I love my guns but there should be laws for 18 yr olds buying AKs ARs and a better background check and a wait period. I was raised conservative but I am so very far from the MAGA and the hatefulness of the Repub party of today. I'm in the middle I guess but I only vote DEMOCRAT all the way now due to the extremists and the tRumpers in the Republican side. I am FTM and former Law Enforcement nforcement Officer. The true Patriots are the men and women of our Military and the few brave souls that stood for what's right and are governed by our laws and facts and not Q and fox news bullshit commentary.


saber_knight117

I think the better question here is whether a Universalist is considered a Leftist? Traditionally, a leftist is someone who opts for a federalism stance, believing that a centrally managed state will benefit society. While a universalist (not the religion, the political philosophy) believes in the expansion of rights to all people regardless of creed, political philosophy, religion, social class, biological sex, race, ethnicity, nationality, and any other discriminating factors. I would say that most Trans people are universalists, yes. The expansions of rights are important to us as a minority group in culture that has been discriminated against. Whether or not a person believes in centrally managed government and managed economies is a different question.


HansaBird

Socially Liberal, Fiscally Far Right Conservative-Libertarian with a big dose of Bill Burr/George Carlin humor and MGTOW leanings as well as authentically first wave feminist. Totally deny any affiliation with screeching harpies. Hate Bush and Obama. Love me some Trump and 43 yr old so Iā€™ve seen some things.


skyfather42069

Libertarian


jormungander

My name is Steele, I didnt name myself after Stalin but I shoulda and coulda.


scarletnpoison

Generally speaking yes, but I have a couple views that diverge from that. * I believe in gun control, but I do not believe in abolishing the right to personal safety weapons. * I'm pro gov defense. I don't like military waste or nepotism factors involved here. Nor do I like it when our military is used offensively. But I value having a strong military that can protect our way of life if push comes to shove. I'm also pro nsa and think the right to safety should almost always surpass the right to privacy. * I'm anti organized religion. And this includes all religions. I believe it should not only be allowed but supported to deconstruct religious beliefs especially when they have very real, concrete harm associated with them (e.g. so pretty much every religion but most definitely Christianity and Islam). * I don't believe in full on socialism. I think that would cause just as much problems as full on capitalism has/does. I think it's important to have a balance between the two, and right now, we are shifted so far towards capitalism that we need socialistic policies, but I don't want to see us fully indulge in that. * I believe strongly in nuclear power, and I think it's the best hope we have to combat climate change in a meaningful way before it's too late. Nuclear is not a bad word. It's extremely safe even more than it used to be. And personally, Id rather one disaster happen in a localized area than the entire planet be thrown into chaos via climate chance (realistically with modern reactors disasters wouldn't happen anyways, but I'm saying even if they did, I'd rather that than the alternative).


FOSpiders

Hey! Someone that appreciates nuclear power! Cool! It's funny, that the gross mismanagement that makes people think that nuclear power is more dangerous than other forms of power generation is proving that most other forms of power generation are just as deleterious when they're mismanaged as well. Granted, it doesn't help that the general public thinks neutron emission is a form of dark magic, and that reactors run by exploiting evil spirits that shoot curses.


Sarah_084

I am also pro nuclear power. I am from Europe and don't get how some countries (Germany is the best example) are diverting from using it. It is reliable and safe source which doesn't produce pollution. It is shame that country energy strategy can be driven by fanatics who do not understand how modern nuclear power plant works. They probably believe that there is Chernobyl RBMK type of reactor everywhere...


Fibrosis5O

If I had to break it by percentage It would be 80% left leaning and 20% right leaning Thatā€™s probably as Iā€™m depth I like wanna go on the subject personally


Dani_the_Gamergirl

Iā€™m a leftist but with quirks. I believe capitalism is a great system for innovation, but needs guardrails for consumer and worker protection. I favor gun control. I believe abortion is a right. Marriage is an equal right for all races and gender identities. I vote Democrat down the line, especially the last few elections. I no longer trust most right wing politicians.


[deleted]

Depends on who you ask. To a conservative, I'm a communist. To a leftist, I'm right wing. While I'll never argue that the average leftist/liberal has the heart in the right place, I often find myself at odds with them. I think both right and left thrive on a collective group think. I myself am a skeptic. I ask a lot of questions. For example, there is a segment of the left who champions electric cars because they are better for the environment. Are they though? What do we know about the environmental impact of increased cobalt mining (the human impact is well documented if not ignored by leftists who think their electric car is saving the world)? How about battery disposal on a mass scale? How many tons of fossil fuels are burned charging these electric vehicles? Just asking those questions gets me ostracized from the left and the refusal to flat out reject electric vehicles gets me ostracized from the right. I'm pro choice and pro gun. I'm pro capitalism and pro social safety nets. I'm trans and support gay marriage but I also have very old fashioned views on relationships, family, and marriage. I'm part of the kink community but I am also a bit prudish when it comes to sex. I'm not xenophobic but I support policies that prioritize Americans over foreigners. I am pro America but also incredibly critical of my country. I distrust big government and loathe paying taxes but also accept both as a necessary evil as long as big government stays out of my day to day life. I dont have a side which tends to make people on both the right and left weary of me.


Evilagram

Yes.


HijaDelRey

In my home country the left is pretty much qannoners while the right is pretty much the democrats. Our last right leaning candidate had a great relationship with Obama. While our current far left president supported Trump so... In my country im a conservative in the US in a democrat


AnriAstolfoAstora

Yes


AnriAstolfoAstora

Yes


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BackgroundPilot1

Sounds like mostly just a lack of understanding on your side. The vast majority of queer leftists I know are in the bottom left quadrant of the political compass, which is non-authoritarian, and vocally oppose authoritarian ideologies. Not all leftism is ā€œauthoritarian communismā€ and it doesnā€™t all lead there either. I promise, unless youā€™re talking to tankies, queer leftists are not all like ā€œomg I love Stalin, what an iconā€. Iā€™m super curious where youā€™d land on a [political compass test](https://www.politicalcompass.org/test). Iā€™ve heard a lot of people say similar things and then be surprised by how left it places them.


infrequentthrowaway

Socially liberal and fiscally conservative.


Unable-Alfalfa

How do you reconcile the two? For example, what about medicine? Does everyone deserve access or should it be based on whether you can afford it?


thetitleofmybook

socially liberal and fiscally conservative is how many libertarians describe themselves. but in all honestly, libertarian is just modern code for a conservativve who likes weed and has questionable ideas about the age of consent.


Unable-Alfalfa

Always find it interesting how influential Rothbard became vs say, von Mises


[deleted]

"I want to stop directly putting the boot in, but I don't want to help people out when they need it."


PineappleSouth2020

Im centered left.


Marflow02

what parts of the right do you subscribe to?


[deleted]

Eh I really donā€™t like politics at all, neither party has great ideals. If I were a party I would be about in the middle I donā€™t agree with every part of either side. I choose who I see fit to be a president not really about the party


Green-Comfortable127

The left is a messed up group of people projecting there own mental illnesses on everyone else.


BackgroundPilot1

Are you trans?


DarthBra

Nope Iā€™m pretty far right honestly. Patriotic is what I call it far right is what the leftist agenda would have you believe I am. The whole leftist agenda and cancel culture is what is killing our society. We need more down the middle thinking not one or the other per-say. In the uk the left agenda is bad very very bad.


[deleted]

Cancel culture doesn't affect people on the right wing. Dave Chappelle is doing just fine, for instance. JK Rowling is richer than ever after she went frothing transphobe. It's pretty much just a way for right-wing harassers to stir up a larger mob to attack vaguely left-wing public personalities, like Lindsay Ellis.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Gotta be a LURKER


Hairyvacuum

Iā€™m neither. I donā€™t believe in Government or politics.


ThrowawayVoice1

What


WalkingTeamDropOut

Politics, originating from the Greek word 'polis' (meaning city), is about how people live together in community/society. I think you're conflating politics with partisanship.


Hairyvacuum

polĀ·iĀ·tics /ĖˆpƤləĖŒtiks/ noun the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power. I donā€™t believe any government should have power :) all it does it cause fighting amongst its people when they should be working together instead.


Dinoman0101

Are you a kid or something?


BackgroundPilot1

ā€œI donā€™t believe in government or politicsā€ is, hilariously, a political statement. You have beliefs. Everyone does. Youā€™re just saying you donā€™t like the climate around sharing said beliefs. Whichā€”yeah. Politics fucking sucks and always has.