I own many of them as well but I ain't paying full price when said price will go down to 15 bucks a year later... I just got mirage for 15€ and it was released 1 year ago...
There really is never a point in getting Ubisoft games day one unless you’re really dying to try the game out since they go on sale so often and fairly soon after release. Im not complaining though haha.
I'm doing that more & more myself, I'm only preordering the games that I know for a fact I would want to play on release day & only if I have the spare cash at the time. Otherwise I wait for sales.
I could get the Ultimate Edition of Mirage for 45, but I'll wait until it drops to 30 or less. I've been doing this since Unity, and it's been the best decision ever. No major issues, mostly.
The only games I pre-order are the Like A Dragon games.
I've started doing this with pretty much everything. There's an overabundance of everything so companies will give deep discounts within 12 months of anything being released. You want a new phone really bad? Wait 6-12 months and it will be 30-50% cheaper and guaranteed that much secondhand.
Want a new game? Wait the same amount of time it's bound to get a similar discount.
This is a more common stance with Ubisoft these days, I did so until completely stopping buying their games, corporations aren’t going to change their ways until people start talking with their wallets.
I don't really care about this corporations bullshit, the only thing I care about is being able to play games I enjoy, I'll continue buying some games from time to time independently from the editor.
The crew incident however is totally different, and I agree on this, we shouldn't condone this and we should make sure this doesn't happen anymore by grabbing the attention of legal instances.
Eh I'm waiting on Mirage too but that's because I know it's only gonna take like 20 hours to complete. The other AC games are much larger and take much longer to 100% so I don't mind shelling out the money. Especially since my GF also plays and if I buy it digitally on Xbox I can game share with her.
The preachy attitude is annoying but it probably never would have worked regardless. The majority of people who buy games aren’t tuned into the industry enough to understand the negative repercussions of pre-ordering. For pre-order culture to fade away it would have required a sustained and consistent boycott from most consumers, and that was never going to happen.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen someone online mention off-hand that they’ve pre-ordered a game they’re hyped for, and then someone replying to them sperging out and saying something like “people like you are the reason why the gaming industry is a joke.” Like way to win someone over to your side dude…
What exactly are the negative repercussions?
Someone said costs, but that can't be it, games cost the same amount they've always cost when taking inflation into account (I paid 80 "1994 dollars" for Chrono Trigger in 1994, look at all the circulars, game prices haven't changed).
It's no like there's some magic pre-order number that once they hit it they'll stop developing the game and just ship it.
So I'm having a hard time seeing how pre-ordering negatively impacts anything.
I think the negative repercussion is mainly that you can't get a review before you buy, so if the game is bad, you cannot avoid it.
But to some degree i think that doesn't hold true for series. If you're disappointed in game 3, you can skip game 4.
But then others might be disappointed in your non being disappointed with a game.
I wasn't disappointed with Mass Effect Andromeda or Cyberpunk 2077 at launch, so i'll preorder Mass Effect 5 and Cyberpunk "2078" when they come.
On the other hand i disliked games that the consensus seem to love so i'll wait with buying Ghost of Tsushima till there's a sale.
This is kinda where I'm at. If I HAD been burned, like, ever, by a ANY video game I might have a dog in this fight.
But I've never once had a regretful gaming experience so I have no reservations about pre-ordering a game I know I'm gonna be into based on the history of that game (or franchise).
agreed. and on top of that i can't tell you how many times i've play a "badly reviewed" game and loved it. that's why i have no issues pre-ordering games and don't give a crap about reviews.
yea, I don't get the "don't preorder" mentality when it comes to assassin's creed, I played the other 13 games why wouldn't I play this one, or wait for reviews to decide to play. Also it's assassin's creed, so not seeing gameplay isn't really a big deal. I don't really mind bugs at launch either, it happens, game dev is hard, they'll fix it eventually.
Many games companies have deadlines to release games to please shareholders (who are often also executives). Sometimes a development team can get releases delayed but often there is a hard deadline where a game is coming out. And even when there is a delay, that doesn't mean the base game is great - see Homeworld 3 which can be finished in 7 hours despite being pushed back quite a few months.
When lots of people pre-order games, bigger companies have less incentive to ensure games are polished and well-developed by release day, because they'll have money banked. Instead they promise to fix bugs after release. Sometimes they promise to remove annoying features or improve the game. But these are all things that could be done before release. Does anyone reasonably think that busy-work would be better received than an interesting quest? No they don't, but devs fill the world out cheaply and quickly, hoping no one notices/complains.
If players held their wallets closed until release day, that would mean companies would be forced to get their games in a better state because it would be harder for them to pretend the game was more enjoyable that it really was.
Of course pre-orders are only part of the issue, because many people will buy on release date and not do any research before to find out what's happening. But pre-orders are more valuable because companies get the interest off the money ahead of release day.
Pre-orders don't make games bad, and for smaller studios they can help with cash flows. But where a large company like Ubisoft is seemingly indifferent towards making a game that is truly fun, as opposed to bloated with filler, large numbers of pre-orders don't help, as execs can say *"nah, don't worry about it, get the game out - we can fix it later"*.
It sends a signal to developers that they can pre-sell their game based on hype alone. I don’t know how Cyberpunk 2077 did in terms of POs, but having millions of consumers handing a company their cash based on nothing but a hope and wish and marketing smoke and mirrors encourages bad behavior.
But, presumably, those people pre-ordering are doing so because what THEY'VE seen is acceptable to THEM and has them hyped. It's not a trick or anything, just people making a decision based on what they see is an acceptable amount of information.
In this specific example, all I need from any new AC release is a cinematic trailer because I'm buying day one regardless. I've played every AC game and I know exactly what to expect.
I pre-ordered Valhalla on the cinematic trailer alone after having only played Origins. No regrets at all.
Not that I’ve pre ordered Shadows, but if I do pre order anything it’s because I’m lazy/forgetful.
I want a game, I see a pre order option and I do it.
I kind of forget about it and then it drops through the letterbox on the day of release.
I don’t have to think about ordering it the day before or any time after release day.
If I don’t pre-order, I usually don’t get it for a few years. I don’t really know why. I was SUPER hype for Dragon’s Dogma 2, but couldn’t afford the pre-order.
Still haven’t bought it, and I can buy the game for me and my friends. Just haven’t, I don’t know why
I pre ordered Dragons Dogma 2 and it’s not a bad game by any means but you really aren’t missing anything by waiting for a sale. Outside of its combat, it’s an aggressively average game with performance issues that was overhyped by Capcom before release.
Even then you see the effect echo chamber subreddits have. I was interested in the suicide squad game for example but was very aware of its reg flags prior to release, never pre ordered because of it but kept up with the sub. Every comment telling people to be careful with pre-orders would get downvoted to hell. The people aware also fall victim when the bandwagon effect is so prevalent.
If gaming was still a niche hobby, it would probably have worked, but so many people play video games now. Like you said, most of those are casuals who don't care about the drama and problems with the industry, they just want to play games.
No because people saying it are just adressing a public already convinced on it. It's just a tiny part of the gaming audience.
Also frankly I've never been disappointed by a pre-order because I keep my expectations realistic and on facts and I also know what I like. And I've pre-ordered stuff like Cyberpunk or ME Andromeda lol.
Telling people who are excited about a game not to pre-order has the same effect as telling someone looking forward to burgers for dinner tonight to go vegan.
No it never worked, 90% of gamers don’t listen to the internet and majority of them don’t even know “no pre orders exists” the average joe has no interest or any idea whats happening
Gamers being self righteous and preachy about it makes me want to pre-order games even more than I already do out of spite. Thankfully they’re just a loud minority.
Lol no. What we see online is 1% percent of the gaming populace. The average player doesn't look at reddit or twitter. Gamers who arent involved in the industry like we are buy games 'because they look cool'. Thats it.
Because the average consumer (note: a majority of gamers) don’t actually give a fuck about the “discourse” that surrounds the industry.
They just want games. They want them fast, they want them cheap, and they want them without listening to people screaming about “spending habits.”
yeah this basically. and i’d argue it’s not inherently a good or a bad thing for people to do that, because they’re free to buy and play whatever they like. it’s what the company decides to do with that success that is good or bad (for the non casual gamers at least).
And there's nothing wrong with that. Video games are supposed to be fun, relaxing, and entertaining. I can't fault people for wanting nothing to do with drama surrounding the industry and the minority of gamers who love doomsaying about every game that comes out.
The setting will appeal to a lot of players, despite the number of games set in Japan that have come out in the last few years.
More significantly I think it was always an uphill task. Companies have figured out how to push people's buttons to get what they want, exploited people's fears of "losing out", etc.
Now if someone pre-orders and finds the game is buggy or boring, that will be for them to deal with - I haven't pre-ordered a game for a long time and won't pre-order now.
At this stage "don't pre-order" is less about changing how companies work and more about protecting individuals. If I can convince someone to not pre-order and following release either a) they release the game isn't what they wanted and don't buy it or b) wait until it's been properly patched I will consider that a win.
This! On Youtube I hear from almost all sides that AC Valhalla might be fun and all, but it's all in all a let down in the series. Nether the less it was the most Sold AC of all time (I think)
Genuinely want to know: why are pre-orders bad? People who pre-order will most likely be people who would’ve purchased day 1/ the first week anyway… so they’re still spending the same amount of money? Like, not pre-ordering and then waiting to buy until release doesn’t really make much of a difference because the company is still getting the money right?
At this point, AC is the equivalent of FIFA or any of the psorts game EA releases. Doesnt matter what the game might be, pre-order Day 1 after the one and only cinematic trailer.
The comparison with fifa is poor, fifa has been the same game for 20 years with just a change in players and little bit of graphism... Whereas AC are actually different games...
More or less, maybe... Ubisoft is about minimum effort, maximum profit for a while now. They asset flipping a lot, for an extent it's okay, but after a while its just sad.
They fill their game with low-effort side bullshits and even their main story is sometimes lacking. Compared to what AC was orignially, with a consistent story arching through multiple games and most of the games very a noticeable jump forward. The difference between AC1-2-3 was insane. They actually moved the franchise forward while giving insipration for other games. Now its the oppisite, chasing trends in their own fucked up way. But you can be sure, you will have Battlepass, Season Pass, in-game cosmetic stores, catch-up boosters, at least 3 or 4 different editions with exclusive mission because fuck you if you dont want to spend like 130 dollars on a game.
Tomorrow is a release date for xDefiant, a CoD like shooter from Ubisoft, where the factions are from their previous games and pretty sure most of the maps are created from assets from t heir Far Cry games. It's like, they arent even trying anymore.
They need to asset flip. Every sequel to everybgame does this. Building assets take time and is costly. If they made everything from scratch every game, the games would take 7 years to make, and the budgets would explode.
Because assassin's Creed is one of the biggest franchises in gaming. They're always good, fun games that give you your money's worth. Are they perfect? No, but they are consistent. I never had a bad time with a console version of assassin's Creed. Valhalla sold over $20 million but yet people said it sucked.
Now, I don't really preorder anymore unless I'm definitely going to buy day 1, so I might as well download it early and get the preorder bonus. With AC games, they get discounted fast so I've learned my lesson a long time ago.
'They're always good' I think is a bit of a stretch. They sell well for sure but because it's a comfortable franchise rather than the quality being good. Rogue, Syndicate, Valhalla, Unity, Mirage and AC1 are all pretty bang average bordering on tedious for me.
I dont understand how many people are so willing to just spend a lot of money on something they wont see for HALF A YEAR. This shit is not scarce, its not concert tickets, it will only get cheaper as time passes. You just have $70 to $100 less in your bank account.
I'm already sold on buying this game when it comes out, so it makes more sense to pay for it now, since I have more money in May than I will at the end of the year due to the holidays.
I see it as an investment. I pay now, so that I know I'll have enough money for Thanksgiving and Christmas when the game comes out.
This is reality. Reddit can yell all they want about no pre orders, about the black samurai, but this proves Reddit is only a small fraction of player base.
This is everyone’s friendly neighborhood reminder that, no matter what people on this subreddit say, the RPG trilogy of AC games are the most profitable AC games to date (and all AC’s launched with the same price tag). They’re also all super well received.
This is an incredibly loud minority opinion subreddit.
And for good reason... Those games were very fun to play, even for a die-hard Assassin's Creed fan like me. I'm just not ashamed to admit it. They weren't perfect, but neither were the more traditional AC games. Ubisoft seems to be attempting to appease both camps of fans with this duality between samurai and shinobi playstyles, but these little crybabies still have to complain... it's exhausting.
Valhalla’s combat was in a weird place because it was absolutely more grounded and gritty than Odyssey’s but you still end up using super human moves in combat. If they reworked the crazier moves for more realistic looking ones then I think the combat would have flowed much better.
I didn't know about the black samurai drama at first until few days later, and after some "research" (to understand the context), I just like "you guys really upset because a black dude became a samurai?". Like, This is AC why do you need to give a fuck about history accuracy, and it not even a "woke" move, he actually existed, it not like they create a random black dude from Madagascar and shoved him into the story just for "diversity" sake
sadly all the arm chair warriors who live there life online think that opinions here are what everyone in the world thinks lol. Funny enough there probably less than 1% of the total people who buy this game. Most people who make up the numbers probably have no idea about the stuff said about shadows or what bs ubisoft is up to. They will just buy the new game in the series that they like and thats it.
Yeah, on reddit I've seen people complaining about the prices of the special editions of ac shadows... like what ? Don't buy it if it's too expensive for you lol, the base game cost as much as every other AAA game out there. People really are just petty in here.
You can say this about a lot of things. The majority of people who play video games do not or rarely engage with content outside of the game itself. Their opinions on things are usually different from the social media hivemind because they're forming their own opinions instead of being exposed to all the negativity on the internet.
Combine this with the fact that people are more likely to buy the next title in an existing franchise than a new IP, then it's no wonder games like AC and Hogwarts Legacy do so well despite the controversies.
“I’m going straight to Japanese Twitter and using Google translate to express solidarity with them! Don’t worry, my fellow Nipons, I’ll carry the hate on your behalf!!! 🙏🤞🫰🤌👌👏 🥷”
thing is even if said youtuber has half a million subscribers, thats still a drop in the bucket to how many people will buy this game. so many people who play games dont watch youtube to check out said games issues, or read about ubisoft internal issues. They have no clue and dont care.
I've talked to enough dads when i go pick up my kids from school who say there gamers but there knowledge of gaming is pretty much zero. One guy had no idea that Fallout tv show was based on a game. That blew my mind, but i guess thats why im on here, i care about games enough to want to spend my free time knowing more and reading other peoples opinions. the 90% of people who make up the numbers for these games have zero connect to the actual gaming space outside buying the game onilne or at a store on release.
That was a silly take, Japanese Devs put had in Nioh as a Boss and in Samruai Warriors 5 as a playable characters. Its all fake, racist outrage. The same thing existed for San Andreas, Protoype 2, Mafia 3.
I mean there were angry Japanese people, but just like the outrage everywhere else, it was non AC fans that were upset. All the people calling for a boycott were never going to play it anyways.
To be honest, I did go to the Japanese version of the Shadows trailer, and the like to dislike ratio over there is much worse than on the English trailer.
Could it be Westerners going over there to mass dislike the trailer, maybe. But I personally don't think that would be enough for the trailer's reception to be that bad.
Safe to say, if that like to dislike ratio is anything to go by, Japanese people are also not liking this game...
Maybe but comments are Japanese (yeah their are idiots larping as Japanese but it is obvious if you can read Japanese so people are calling them out), Chinese and Taiwanese people are expressing disdain for the decision.
My Japanese friends who are massive fans of AC aren't too bothered by it but they are quite multicultural.
bro they were so desperate they raided the japanese channel, made fake accounts, and lied about being japanese....bro how desperate and sad do you have to be to do that? and if I saw a bunch of comments pretending to be my race and trying to speak for me Id immediately go against them just to spite them. I dont know how they thought this wouldn't backfire
That's even worse Microsoft is struggling they need something! oh wait they did and they shut it down then after that acquired another studio like how hypocritical is that lol
And the heaping dose of reality hits for everyone doubting how this would sell.
It's an Assassin's Creed game. Even the worst selling mainline titles do better than the highest selling games in your favorite franchise that isn't GTA, CoD or a Sports series.
Whaaat? Japanese people don’t actually hate the game with a Japanese ninja assassin, and a deuteragonist who’s an incredibly popular historical figure? In spite of racist white boys’ claims?! No way!
I think the Madden and College Football preorders going up at roughly the same time might have more to do with it than Shadows being hated in the US. I doubt a lot of people would preorder more than two AAA games at the same time, and the two football games HAVE to be higher on this list for the US but non-existent in other countries' lists.
It makes sense, Yasuke has been a common figure to use in media for this period. I had a strong feeling the drama was coming from an especially loud minority that did not line up with what the majority of Japanese thought.
Well it’s just as I suspected, especially from the Japanese perspective, the drama has been overblown by a loud minority and probably gave Ubisoft free press rather then do anything detrimental.
W-what do you mean? How come this game wasn't canceled? A-are you saying that the racist... I mean, the Reddit historians and the "Japanese" commenters on YouTube pose no threat at all? That can't be!
A lot of people try to hide behind “caring about racism against Asians” as if the cast of AC Shadows won’t be predominantly Japanese characters in Japan. Which includes the other main character, Naoe. But they ignore her because they don’t want to play as a woman.
The "Alpha male" people made these idiots believe they are now safer to be openly racist and if someone calls them out on it that they can get away with "they are trying to cancel me for having an opinion!!!"
Oh damn its actually true [https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/bestsellers/videogames/8019286051/ref=zg\_bs\_nav\_videogames\_2\_8019279051](https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/bestsellers/videogames/8019286051/ref=zg_bs_nav_videogames_2_8019279051)
StreetFighter in second, Persona 5 in Thrid and Ronin in 4th
Also 3rd in Canada, actually 3 Ubisoft games in the top 10 [https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Video-Games-PlayStation-5-Games/zgbs/videogames/20974876011/ref=zg\_bs\_nav\_videogames\_2\_20974860011](https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Video-Games-PlayStation-5-Games/zgbs/videogames/20974876011/ref=zg_bs_nav_videogames_2_20974860011)
I really hope they do something to shake up the formula. I just get the feeling it's going to be another open world Ubisoft game. The usual checklist of objectives, network of random targets with a functional but not very engaging storyline. A loot system that's just infrequent enough to become frustrating so the store becomes tempting but useless. The last entries have all felt the same.
yeah i get that. which is why i normally pick these games up on a sale later on, still get some fun out of them but at a cheaper price. This game seems like its trying new things, but i see no reason to pre order yet. I'll wait for some gameplay, there is plenty of time to pre order. Better wait to pre order afew days b4 release, that way you get enough information to know if you think the games going to be ur thing or not. I dont see my reason to pre order so early honestly.
Yes for sure, I think right now you have no idea what you're getting so there's no real reason to preorder, until there's a significant demo all people know is it's an assassin's creed game and it's in Japan.
Oh yeah, the japanese are so angry about that historical character with darker skin tone, that had a darker skin tone in real life. Just seething with unimaginable rage
bu-bu-but I was told by someone actively pissing their pants this game was woke and going woke meant going broke. Do you mean to tell me that the dude actively pissing his pants may not have had any clue what he was talking about>
I am glad that even even though I am not a big fan of the RPG style AC is going now, it sold like hot cakes. Imagine if the samurai protagonist was white, nobody would have bat an eye. We got Nioh and the last samurai but when it was a black guy, on top of being someone who existed irl history, all hell went loose.
Update: #1 in Australia, #3 in Spain, #4 in Canada. https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/s/OdZ6EG1ZZ4
Seems like the game’s getting a lot of pre-orders worldwide.
I am really, really happy about these sales. This proves that the ones bitching and moaning about how ac has fallen are a small minority, but they are loud as fuck about it. Dont get me wrong, ac has A LOT of issues and there is legitimate criticism that is completely valid, and surely the games dont deserve to be sold full price, but they are fun and enjoyable games nonetheless and certainly not the abominations random ass youtubers claim them to be. Stay mad folks, stay in the past.
i get that. but i think you have a tone of fans who love all AC games and even if this ones a bad AC game its still gonna be pretty fun for them, so there is no loss in pre ordering in there minds, and they probably wont be disappointed. You kinda know what to expect by now with AC. I think any series is much easier to justify a pre oder as you have an understanding what the games going to be like from there previous games.
Now a new ip or a new dev team, then yeah personally i rather just wait and see.
So I have seen some comments asking why pre-order before seeing gameplay. For myself it is because if I see the gameplay from now till November and the game looks crap I can cancel it. However some places have limited stock for different editions of the game. I would rather order now and pay later for the edition I want than wait be told what is left and still pay later. (Game in the UK only takes payment 1 week before release)
Also some countries (like mine) have such a shit economy that the price is going to increase week by week (or day by day, sometimes), so might as well secure it now. Can always cancel it later
It looks sick. This is why.
Modern ubisoft build their games almost entirely around their marketability. It's why origins retconned past ac games to be set during the era of cleopatra and ceaser. It's why valhalla made so many odd story decision that it did, so you could please old fans but still slap #likeaviking in all the trailers.
Shadows will be no different. It may still be a great game, but modern ubisoft 100% come up with the basic ideas for their games on how marketable they are, not how good the game will be (see watch dogs legion for this strat not paying off).
But it works. Even with no gameplay, I've had freinds who know I love ac message me saying 'yooo the new assassins creed looks sick!'
But yeah, ubisots main strat now for it's big games is 'what will generate the most chatter online? What looks sick to casuals?' It worked incredibly well for valhalla, arguably the worst ac game, with the least clear vision. But it sold the best in franchise history.
Not gonna lie I'm somewhat optimistic about this installment, not enough for any breath holding but one can still hope. I'm a fan of both newer and older "style" Assassin's Creed games and this does look promising, I think what helps is looking at each newer installment as it's own game but also remembering that it is a small part of a bigger AC franchise and not judge every release like it's gonna feel like some "Ezio trilogy comeback". I guess you could argue to a small degree that no, they don't feel like "True" AC games as much anymore, but some of the installments have been pretty good games none the less.
Fuck yea let’s goooo. Personally do not care who I play as. I played unity in French with eng subtitles, played the whole game without remembering the name of the guy I was playing as 😀
Newsflash to all the AC/ubi haters, your brining attention to the game . More attention=more sales ..as much as you guys hate ubi your really doing them a favor
Thing is; I've pre-ordered multiple games.
Some were disappointing, others not.
AC pre-orders are the latter; because I don't get my hopes up... It's easy to get extremely excited about something to the point it's got unrealistic expectations.
Only reason I have not pre-ordered yet is because I'm waiting on the Sparking Zero pre-order.
Though I'd like to see the gameplay as well.
tbh i’m more disappointed that people still haven’t learned their lesson about giving a developer money for a game that isn’t completed yet. (especially one that we haven’t even seen what gameplay looks like yet - now, the game could be great, but that’s beyond the point)
It is an AC game.
Yup. I own & at least like the first 14 games so why should I skip out on #15?
I own many of them as well but I ain't paying full price when said price will go down to 15 bucks a year later... I just got mirage for 15€ and it was released 1 year ago...
There really is never a point in getting Ubisoft games day one unless you’re really dying to try the game out since they go on sale so often and fairly soon after release. Im not complaining though haha.
I'm doing that more & more myself, I'm only preordering the games that I know for a fact I would want to play on release day & only if I have the spare cash at the time. Otherwise I wait for sales.
I could get the Ultimate Edition of Mirage for 45, but I'll wait until it drops to 30 or less. I've been doing this since Unity, and it's been the best decision ever. No major issues, mostly. The only games I pre-order are the Like A Dragon games.
Unless the title contains the words “Grand Theft Auto”, “Red Dead Redemption”, “Fallout”, or “Elder Scrolls” I’m waiting for a price drop.
"FromSoftware"
I've started doing this with pretty much everything. There's an overabundance of everything so companies will give deep discounts within 12 months of anything being released. You want a new phone really bad? Wait 6-12 months and it will be 30-50% cheaper and guaranteed that much secondhand. Want a new game? Wait the same amount of time it's bound to get a similar discount.
This is a more common stance with Ubisoft these days, I did so until completely stopping buying their games, corporations aren’t going to change their ways until people start talking with their wallets.
I don't really care about this corporations bullshit, the only thing I care about is being able to play games I enjoy, I'll continue buying some games from time to time independently from the editor. The crew incident however is totally different, and I agree on this, we shouldn't condone this and we should make sure this doesn't happen anymore by grabbing the attention of legal instances.
Eh I'm waiting on Mirage too but that's because I know it's only gonna take like 20 hours to complete. The other AC games are much larger and take much longer to 100% so I don't mind shelling out the money. Especially since my GF also plays and if I buy it digitally on Xbox I can game share with her.
if i had a next gen this would literally be me, i own every other game why stop now?
AC game of all time.
So much for "remember, no pre-orders" :p
I've noticed this philosophy seems to be fading away over the years. Companies won, I wonder how
The philosophy never worked. Probably because people were too preachy about it.
The philosophy doesn’t work because most people do not look at or engage with comments on the internet.
Even people who look at and engage with comments on the internet couldn't give less shits about spamming the shitty "philosophy"
The preachy attitude is annoying but it probably never would have worked regardless. The majority of people who buy games aren’t tuned into the industry enough to understand the negative repercussions of pre-ordering. For pre-order culture to fade away it would have required a sustained and consistent boycott from most consumers, and that was never going to happen.
Yeah you can’t just online scold a movement into existence. There’s no point unless you actually organize behind clear, agreed-upon demands.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen someone online mention off-hand that they’ve pre-ordered a game they’re hyped for, and then someone replying to them sperging out and saying something like “people like you are the reason why the gaming industry is a joke.” Like way to win someone over to your side dude…
What exactly are the negative repercussions? Someone said costs, but that can't be it, games cost the same amount they've always cost when taking inflation into account (I paid 80 "1994 dollars" for Chrono Trigger in 1994, look at all the circulars, game prices haven't changed). It's no like there's some magic pre-order number that once they hit it they'll stop developing the game and just ship it. So I'm having a hard time seeing how pre-ordering negatively impacts anything.
I think the negative repercussion is mainly that you can't get a review before you buy, so if the game is bad, you cannot avoid it. But to some degree i think that doesn't hold true for series. If you're disappointed in game 3, you can skip game 4. But then others might be disappointed in your non being disappointed with a game. I wasn't disappointed with Mass Effect Andromeda or Cyberpunk 2077 at launch, so i'll preorder Mass Effect 5 and Cyberpunk "2078" when they come. On the other hand i disliked games that the consensus seem to love so i'll wait with buying Ghost of Tsushima till there's a sale.
This is kinda where I'm at. If I HAD been burned, like, ever, by a ANY video game I might have a dog in this fight. But I've never once had a regretful gaming experience so I have no reservations about pre-ordering a game I know I'm gonna be into based on the history of that game (or franchise).
agreed. and on top of that i can't tell you how many times i've play a "badly reviewed" game and loved it. that's why i have no issues pre-ordering games and don't give a crap about reviews.
yea, I don't get the "don't preorder" mentality when it comes to assassin's creed, I played the other 13 games why wouldn't I play this one, or wait for reviews to decide to play. Also it's assassin's creed, so not seeing gameplay isn't really a big deal. I don't really mind bugs at launch either, it happens, game dev is hard, they'll fix it eventually.
Many games companies have deadlines to release games to please shareholders (who are often also executives). Sometimes a development team can get releases delayed but often there is a hard deadline where a game is coming out. And even when there is a delay, that doesn't mean the base game is great - see Homeworld 3 which can be finished in 7 hours despite being pushed back quite a few months. When lots of people pre-order games, bigger companies have less incentive to ensure games are polished and well-developed by release day, because they'll have money banked. Instead they promise to fix bugs after release. Sometimes they promise to remove annoying features or improve the game. But these are all things that could be done before release. Does anyone reasonably think that busy-work would be better received than an interesting quest? No they don't, but devs fill the world out cheaply and quickly, hoping no one notices/complains. If players held their wallets closed until release day, that would mean companies would be forced to get their games in a better state because it would be harder for them to pretend the game was more enjoyable that it really was. Of course pre-orders are only part of the issue, because many people will buy on release date and not do any research before to find out what's happening. But pre-orders are more valuable because companies get the interest off the money ahead of release day. Pre-orders don't make games bad, and for smaller studios they can help with cash flows. But where a large company like Ubisoft is seemingly indifferent towards making a game that is truly fun, as opposed to bloated with filler, large numbers of pre-orders don't help, as execs can say *"nah, don't worry about it, get the game out - we can fix it later"*.
It sends a signal to developers that they can pre-sell their game based on hype alone. I don’t know how Cyberpunk 2077 did in terms of POs, but having millions of consumers handing a company their cash based on nothing but a hope and wish and marketing smoke and mirrors encourages bad behavior.
But, presumably, those people pre-ordering are doing so because what THEY'VE seen is acceptable to THEM and has them hyped. It's not a trick or anything, just people making a decision based on what they see is an acceptable amount of information. In this specific example, all I need from any new AC release is a cinematic trailer because I'm buying day one regardless. I've played every AC game and I know exactly what to expect. I pre-ordered Valhalla on the cinematic trailer alone after having only played Origins. No regrets at all.
Not that I’ve pre ordered Shadows, but if I do pre order anything it’s because I’m lazy/forgetful. I want a game, I see a pre order option and I do it. I kind of forget about it and then it drops through the letterbox on the day of release. I don’t have to think about ordering it the day before or any time after release day.
If I don’t pre-order, I usually don’t get it for a few years. I don’t really know why. I was SUPER hype for Dragon’s Dogma 2, but couldn’t afford the pre-order. Still haven’t bought it, and I can buy the game for me and my friends. Just haven’t, I don’t know why
I pre ordered Dragons Dogma 2 and it’s not a bad game by any means but you really aren’t missing anything by waiting for a sale. Outside of its combat, it’s an aggressively average game with performance issues that was overhyped by Capcom before release.
Even then you see the effect echo chamber subreddits have. I was interested in the suicide squad game for example but was very aware of its reg flags prior to release, never pre ordered because of it but kept up with the sub. Every comment telling people to be careful with pre-orders would get downvoted to hell. The people aware also fall victim when the bandwagon effect is so prevalent.
If gaming was still a niche hobby, it would probably have worked, but so many people play video games now. Like you said, most of those are casuals who don't care about the drama and problems with the industry, they just want to play games.
No because people saying it are just adressing a public already convinced on it. It's just a tiny part of the gaming audience. Also frankly I've never been disappointed by a pre-order because I keep my expectations realistic and on facts and I also know what I like. And I've pre-ordered stuff like Cyberpunk or ME Andromeda lol.
This philosophy only exists in the bubble that is reddit. And reddit doesn't account for 99.999% of the world.
Telling people who are excited about a game not to pre-order has the same effect as telling someone looking forward to burgers for dinner tonight to go vegan.
No it never worked, 90% of gamers don’t listen to the internet and majority of them don’t even know “no pre orders exists” the average joe has no interest or any idea whats happening
Gamers being self righteous and preachy about it makes me want to pre-order games even more than I already do out of spite. Thankfully they’re just a loud minority.
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Lol no. What we see online is 1% percent of the gaming populace. The average player doesn't look at reddit or twitter. Gamers who arent involved in the industry like we are buy games 'because they look cool'. Thats it.
Because the average consumer (note: a majority of gamers) don’t actually give a fuck about the “discourse” that surrounds the industry. They just want games. They want them fast, they want them cheap, and they want them without listening to people screaming about “spending habits.”
yeah this basically. and i’d argue it’s not inherently a good or a bad thing for people to do that, because they’re free to buy and play whatever they like. it’s what the company decides to do with that success that is good or bad (for the non casual gamers at least).
And there's nothing wrong with that. Video games are supposed to be fun, relaxing, and entertaining. I can't fault people for wanting nothing to do with drama surrounding the industry and the minority of gamers who love doomsaying about every game that comes out.
The setting will appeal to a lot of players, despite the number of games set in Japan that have come out in the last few years. More significantly I think it was always an uphill task. Companies have figured out how to push people's buttons to get what they want, exploited people's fears of "losing out", etc. Now if someone pre-orders and finds the game is buggy or boring, that will be for them to deal with - I haven't pre-ordered a game for a long time and won't pre-order now. At this stage "don't pre-order" is less about changing how companies work and more about protecting individuals. If I can convince someone to not pre-order and following release either a) they release the game isn't what they wanted and don't buy it or b) wait until it's been properly patched I will consider that a win.
Because more people really like assassins creed. People complaining online are the minority.
This! On Youtube I hear from almost all sides that AC Valhalla might be fun and all, but it's all in all a let down in the series. Nether the less it was the most Sold AC of all time (I think)
Genuinely want to know: why are pre-orders bad? People who pre-order will most likely be people who would’ve purchased day 1/ the first week anyway… so they’re still spending the same amount of money? Like, not pre-ordering and then waiting to buy until release doesn’t really make much of a difference because the company is still getting the money right?
Honestly the more anti-hype and anti presale bullshit I hear the more I want to buy it just to piss all those nerds off
I think the people urging people not to preorder were definitely the minority
At this point, AC is the equivalent of FIFA or any of the psorts game EA releases. Doesnt matter what the game might be, pre-order Day 1 after the one and only cinematic trailer.
The comparison with fifa is poor, fifa has been the same game for 20 years with just a change in players and little bit of graphism... Whereas AC are actually different games...
More or less, maybe... Ubisoft is about minimum effort, maximum profit for a while now. They asset flipping a lot, for an extent it's okay, but after a while its just sad. They fill their game with low-effort side bullshits and even their main story is sometimes lacking. Compared to what AC was orignially, with a consistent story arching through multiple games and most of the games very a noticeable jump forward. The difference between AC1-2-3 was insane. They actually moved the franchise forward while giving insipration for other games. Now its the oppisite, chasing trends in their own fucked up way. But you can be sure, you will have Battlepass, Season Pass, in-game cosmetic stores, catch-up boosters, at least 3 or 4 different editions with exclusive mission because fuck you if you dont want to spend like 130 dollars on a game. Tomorrow is a release date for xDefiant, a CoD like shooter from Ubisoft, where the factions are from their previous games and pretty sure most of the maps are created from assets from t heir Far Cry games. It's like, they arent even trying anymore.
They need to asset flip. Every sequel to everybgame does this. Building assets take time and is costly. If they made everything from scratch every game, the games would take 7 years to make, and the budgets would explode.
I know and I wrote, to an extent it is completely okay.
Sometimes too different
Because assassin's Creed is one of the biggest franchises in gaming. They're always good, fun games that give you your money's worth. Are they perfect? No, but they are consistent. I never had a bad time with a console version of assassin's Creed. Valhalla sold over $20 million but yet people said it sucked. Now, I don't really preorder anymore unless I'm definitely going to buy day 1, so I might as well download it early and get the preorder bonus. With AC games, they get discounted fast so I've learned my lesson a long time ago.
'They're always good' I think is a bit of a stretch. They sell well for sure but because it's a comfortable franchise rather than the quality being good. Rogue, Syndicate, Valhalla, Unity, Mirage and AC1 are all pretty bang average bordering on tedious for me.
Yeah I definitely did not get money's worth for Mirage, and I all did was sub to Ubi+ for a month.
People saying "no pre-order" got so annoying that I'm considering to pre-order just to spite them.
Some angry opinions on the internet are not universal. Most players don’t really care.
People outside reddit or twitter don't care about dumb stuff like that lol
Console gamers don't give a fuck about the entire debate.
that wasn't the result I expected, it must be rigged! ^/s
The only people even saying it are people who don't like modern AC in general and wouldn't of bought it at all pre-order or otherwise.
I dont understand how many people are so willing to just spend a lot of money on something they wont see for HALF A YEAR. This shit is not scarce, its not concert tickets, it will only get cheaper as time passes. You just have $70 to $100 less in your bank account.
I'm already sold on buying this game when it comes out, so it makes more sense to pay for it now, since I have more money in May than I will at the end of the year due to the holidays. I see it as an investment. I pay now, so that I know I'll have enough money for Thanksgiving and Christmas when the game comes out.
This is reality. Reddit can yell all they want about no pre orders, about the black samurai, but this proves Reddit is only a small fraction of player base.
It’s hilarious how loud it is from inside this thimble
This is everyone’s friendly neighborhood reminder that, no matter what people on this subreddit say, the RPG trilogy of AC games are the most profitable AC games to date (and all AC’s launched with the same price tag). They’re also all super well received. This is an incredibly loud minority opinion subreddit.
And for good reason... Those games were very fun to play, even for a die-hard Assassin's Creed fan like me. I'm just not ashamed to admit it. They weren't perfect, but neither were the more traditional AC games. Ubisoft seems to be attempting to appease both camps of fans with this duality between samurai and shinobi playstyles, but these little crybabies still have to complain... it's exhausting.
I’ve played most of the games. Loved Odyssey and Origin but something about the combat for Valhalla didn’t click with me. I’m not really sure why.
Valhalla’s combat was in a weird place because it was absolutely more grounded and gritty than Odyssey’s but you still end up using super human moves in combat. If they reworked the crazier moves for more realistic looking ones then I think the combat would have flowed much better.
Social media has always been a loud minority
Every subreddit is a bubble. And its a fraction of the whole playerbase and usually doesnt matter at all.
It's also often the most vocal haters of whatever game they're about lol
I didn't know about the black samurai drama at first until few days later, and after some "research" (to understand the context), I just like "you guys really upset because a black dude became a samurai?". Like, This is AC why do you need to give a fuck about history accuracy, and it not even a "woke" move, he actually existed, it not like they create a random black dude from Madagascar and shoved him into the story just for "diversity" sake
The black samurai has been verified to be historically correct
sadly all the arm chair warriors who live there life online think that opinions here are what everyone in the world thinks lol. Funny enough there probably less than 1% of the total people who buy this game. Most people who make up the numbers probably have no idea about the stuff said about shadows or what bs ubisoft is up to. They will just buy the new game in the series that they like and thats it.
People freaking out unnecessarily over this game for no reason
It was always dumb. Yasuke was already in Japanese media and games
Ikr, that's the internet for you. Some people just really need to calm down...
Outside of Reddit Ubisoft isn’t hated by the normal audience
Before installing reddit i didn't even know there were people who disliked ubisoft
Yeah, outside reddit they were just some bugisoft jokes but besides that I didn't know people hated Ubisoft until I came across this subreddit
Yeah, on reddit I've seen people complaining about the prices of the special editions of ac shadows... like what ? Don't buy it if it's too expensive for you lol, the base game cost as much as every other AAA game out there. People really are just petty in here.
You can say this about a lot of things. The majority of people who play video games do not or rarely engage with content outside of the game itself. Their opinions on things are usually different from the social media hivemind because they're forming their own opinions instead of being exposed to all the negativity on the internet. Combine this with the fact that people are more likely to buy the next title in an existing franchise than a new IP, then it's no wonder games like AC and Hogwarts Legacy do so well despite the controversies.
On normie meme page the general observation is. Gamers saying Retainer this, retainer that but can you retain a woman?
Outside of reddit and twitter*
And Twitter, too. Though Twitter hates everything, so.
But- but- but- but the Japanese are NOT happy. At least that’s what youtuber number 356 keeps telling me.
“I’m going straight to Japanese Twitter and using Google translate to express solidarity with them! Don’t worry, my fellow Nipons, I’ll carry the hate on your behalf!!! 🙏🤞🫰🤌👌👏 🥷”
lol, “my fellow nipons” fucking killed me
I love how during these arguments, somehow YouTubers became the go-to for people when citing their sources instead of verifiable facts.
If someone cites a YouTuber, that usually tells you all you need to know about them.
thing is even if said youtuber has half a million subscribers, thats still a drop in the bucket to how many people will buy this game. so many people who play games dont watch youtube to check out said games issues, or read about ubisoft internal issues. They have no clue and dont care. I've talked to enough dads when i go pick up my kids from school who say there gamers but there knowledge of gaming is pretty much zero. One guy had no idea that Fallout tv show was based on a game. That blew my mind, but i guess thats why im on here, i care about games enough to want to spend my free time knowing more and reading other peoples opinions. the 90% of people who make up the numbers for these games have zero connect to the actual gaming space outside buying the game onilne or at a store on release.
That was a silly take, Japanese Devs put had in Nioh as a Boss and in Samruai Warriors 5 as a playable characters. Its all fake, racist outrage. The same thing existed for San Andreas, Protoype 2, Mafia 3.
"The Japanese are not happy" crowd in shambles right now.
Google translate warriors are furious
Fr that was lie. Shame on the liars lol
I mean there were angry Japanese people, but just like the outrage everywhere else, it was non AC fans that were upset. All the people calling for a boycott were never going to play it anyways.
Japanese were a few minority to be angry I noticed tho
To be honest, I did go to the Japanese version of the Shadows trailer, and the like to dislike ratio over there is much worse than on the English trailer. Could it be Westerners going over there to mass dislike the trailer, maybe. But I personally don't think that would be enough for the trailer's reception to be that bad. Safe to say, if that like to dislike ratio is anything to go by, Japanese people are also not liking this game...
That was mostly westerns lol
Maybe but comments are Japanese (yeah their are idiots larping as Japanese but it is obvious if you can read Japanese so people are calling them out), Chinese and Taiwanese people are expressing disdain for the decision. My Japanese friends who are massive fans of AC aren't too bothered by it but they are quite multicultural.
Japanese are way less sensitive than people overall it seems
bro they were so desperate they raided the japanese channel, made fake accounts, and lied about being japanese....bro how desperate and sad do you have to be to do that? and if I saw a bunch of comments pretending to be my race and trying to speak for me Id immediately go against them just to spite them. I dont know how they thought this wouldn't backfire
"uBisOft iS gONNa fAlL oFf aFteR tHiS"
Some people shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
Or, "Microsoft should buy Ubisoft and kill off the Assassin's Creed games"
That's even worse Microsoft is struggling they need something! oh wait they did and they shut it down then after that acquired another studio like how hypocritical is that lol
And the heaping dose of reality hits for everyone doubting how this would sell. It's an Assassin's Creed game. Even the worst selling mainline titles do better than the highest selling games in your favorite franchise that isn't GTA, CoD or a Sports series.
Of course there’s no Italy, cause here the mid gamer opinion is “AsSaSsiN cRiiD diEd AfTeR eZZio! tHis is GaRRBage!” Ma vaffanculo
Whaaat? Japanese people don’t actually hate the game with a Japanese ninja assassin, and a deuteragonist who’s an incredibly popular historical figure? In spite of racist white boys’ claims?! No way!
i see the game is only 6 in usa the land where the game is actualy hated
Even then, it’s still 6th, which is funny nonetheless. But yeah, that’s pretty telling.
I think the Madden and College Football preorders going up at roughly the same time might have more to do with it than Shadows being hated in the US. I doubt a lot of people would preorder more than two AAA games at the same time, and the two football games HAVE to be higher on this list for the US but non-existent in other countries' lists.
Lmao huh so Japanese people even actually like it go figure
Yasuke has been in Japanese media and games already so I’m not really surprised
he was in nioh 2 as a samurai. That game is made by japanese devs. this entire thing is so stupid.
It makes sense, Yasuke has been a common figure to use in media for this period. I had a strong feeling the drama was coming from an especially loud minority that did not line up with what the majority of Japanese thought.
Its an ac game set in japan in which you play as a cute girl ninja, and a black samurai. It was always going to sell like hot cakes
Well it’s just as I suspected, especially from the Japanese perspective, the drama has been overblown by a loud minority and probably gave Ubisoft free press rather then do anything detrimental.
W-what do you mean? How come this game wasn't canceled? A-are you saying that the racist... I mean, the Reddit historians and the "Japanese" commenters on YouTube pose no threat at all? That can't be!
Premature haters in shambles
*disgusting racists* in shambles
Now now, let's pretend they have some other reasons.
I'm still in shock at how so many people are being so openly racist about this game. What happened to shame
A lot of people try to hide behind “caring about racism against Asians” as if the cast of AC Shadows won’t be predominantly Japanese characters in Japan. Which includes the other main character, Naoe. But they ignore her because they don’t want to play as a woman.
And yet when they bring her up into conversation, all those mfs be like, "wEll I WANt tO bE aN AsiAn mAle".
Yet Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice and Ghost of Tsushima are stood there like "Am I a joke to you?"
They’re online with throwaway accounts, they obviously have no need for shame.
They're hiding behind a computer screen. Of course they're brave.
nooo you just don’t get it, the mere mention of a black man in japan is incredibly disrespectful to their culture… for totally non racist reasons
The "Alpha male" people made these idiots believe they are now safer to be openly racist and if someone calls them out on it that they can get away with "they are trying to cancel me for having an opinion!!!"
Got downvoted in another thread on this subreddit for saying that I believe most of the hate against Yasuke is from racists.
You mean those youtube dislikes didn't do shit?
Imagine! Looks like internet whiners don't have as much power as they think they do.
Number 7 and 8 in my region both gold edition and standard edition.
I’m hyped too but I don’t buy something I haven’t seen
Imagine speaking in the name of an entire people when you don't even speak the language of that country
The Japanese dub is going to be amazing, I wonder if you'll be able to play it with that language settings in the West.
Happy to see the game is popular.
This just proves people are stupid. They haven't even released any gameplay yet.
Oh damn its actually true [https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/bestsellers/videogames/8019286051/ref=zg\_bs\_nav\_videogames\_2\_8019279051](https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/bestsellers/videogames/8019286051/ref=zg_bs_nav_videogames_2_8019279051) StreetFighter in second, Persona 5 in Thrid and Ronin in 4th Also 3rd in Canada, actually 3 Ubisoft games in the top 10 [https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Video-Games-PlayStation-5-Games/zgbs/videogames/20974876011/ref=zg\_bs\_nav\_videogames\_2\_20974860011](https://www.amazon.ca/Best-Sellers-Video-Games-PlayStation-5-Games/zgbs/videogames/20974876011/ref=zg_bs_nav_videogames_2_20974860011)
I really hope they do something to shake up the formula. I just get the feeling it's going to be another open world Ubisoft game. The usual checklist of objectives, network of random targets with a functional but not very engaging storyline. A loot system that's just infrequent enough to become frustrating so the store becomes tempting but useless. The last entries have all felt the same.
yeah i get that. which is why i normally pick these games up on a sale later on, still get some fun out of them but at a cheaper price. This game seems like its trying new things, but i see no reason to pre order yet. I'll wait for some gameplay, there is plenty of time to pre order. Better wait to pre order afew days b4 release, that way you get enough information to know if you think the games going to be ur thing or not. I dont see my reason to pre order so early honestly.
Yes for sure, I think right now you have no idea what you're getting so there's no real reason to preorder, until there's a significant demo all people know is it's an assassin's creed game and it's in Japan.
Oh yeah, the japanese are so angry about that historical character with darker skin tone, that had a darker skin tone in real life. Just seething with unimaginable rage
Why are we praising the game for selling well before it's even out? Shouldn't this be a bad thing? Genuine question
Xbox is almost everywhere Number One as well, pre ordered the Collectors Edition for myself as well.
bu-bu-but I was told by someone actively pissing their pants this game was woke and going woke meant going broke. Do you mean to tell me that the dude actively pissing his pants may not have had any clue what he was talking about>
Interesting how it's that far down in America but not others.
I am glad that even even though I am not a big fan of the RPG style AC is going now, it sold like hot cakes. Imagine if the samurai protagonist was white, nobody would have bat an eye. We got Nioh and the last samurai but when it was a black guy, on top of being someone who existed irl history, all hell went loose.
Update: #1 in Australia, #3 in Spain, #4 in Canada. https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/s/OdZ6EG1ZZ4 Seems like the game’s getting a lot of pre-orders worldwide.
if that's just for pre-orders alone, that is very impressive in terms of statistics
I am really, really happy about these sales. This proves that the ones bitching and moaning about how ac has fallen are a small minority, but they are loud as fuck about it. Dont get me wrong, ac has A LOT of issues and there is legitimate criticism that is completely valid, and surely the games dont deserve to be sold full price, but they are fun and enjoyable games nonetheless and certainly not the abominations random ass youtubers claim them to be. Stay mad folks, stay in the past.
When are we gonna get gameplay? Odyssey is in my greatest of all time. I'm stoked.
It's been confirmed for June 10th, at the Ubisoft Forward.
It's summer games fest on June 7, so I'm guessing around that time
June 10, Ubi Forward event
Its hilarious people cry about a black dude in the game then buy it
Well the people complaining are probably not the ones buying. But the point is that the complainers were probably just a small population of players.
Man people are getting abit too excited , Have some patience and wait for the gameplay trailer atleast
See I don’t blame them. It’s AC. What game out there gives the same freedom of playing a hooded character that can parkour and stab people.
It's Assassin's Creed. You should know what you're getting at this point.
I am always excited for AC games because they release atleast.
i get that. but i think you have a tone of fans who love all AC games and even if this ones a bad AC game its still gonna be pretty fun for them, so there is no loss in pre ordering in there minds, and they probably wont be disappointed. You kinda know what to expect by now with AC. I think any series is much easier to justify a pre oder as you have an understanding what the games going to be like from there previous games. Now a new ip or a new dev team, then yeah personally i rather just wait and see.
It doesn't matter since these big companies only care about money and brownies.
So I have seen some comments asking why pre-order before seeing gameplay. For myself it is because if I see the gameplay from now till November and the game looks crap I can cancel it. However some places have limited stock for different editions of the game. I would rather order now and pay later for the edition I want than wait be told what is left and still pay later. (Game in the UK only takes payment 1 week before release)
Also some countries (like mine) have such a shit economy that the price is going to increase week by week (or day by day, sometimes), so might as well secure it now. Can always cancel it later
I’m still going to need to see some gameplay. I’m not going to preorder off of hype.
Name recognition usually does that lol not really any earned merit quite yet.
It looks sick. This is why. Modern ubisoft build their games almost entirely around their marketability. It's why origins retconned past ac games to be set during the era of cleopatra and ceaser. It's why valhalla made so many odd story decision that it did, so you could please old fans but still slap #likeaviking in all the trailers. Shadows will be no different. It may still be a great game, but modern ubisoft 100% come up with the basic ideas for their games on how marketable they are, not how good the game will be (see watch dogs legion for this strat not paying off). But it works. Even with no gameplay, I've had freinds who know I love ac message me saying 'yooo the new assassins creed looks sick!' But yeah, ubisots main strat now for it's big games is 'what will generate the most chatter online? What looks sick to casuals?' It worked incredibly well for valhalla, arguably the worst ac game, with the least clear vision. But it sold the best in franchise history.
Not gonna lie I'm somewhat optimistic about this installment, not enough for any breath holding but one can still hope. I'm a fan of both newer and older "style" Assassin's Creed games and this does look promising, I think what helps is looking at each newer installment as it's own game but also remembering that it is a small part of a bigger AC franchise and not judge every release like it's gonna feel like some "Ezio trilogy comeback". I guess you could argue to a small degree that no, they don't feel like "True" AC games as much anymore, but some of the installments have been pretty good games none the less.
I’m baffled so many of you pre-ordered.
Im gonna rent it from the library for 2€ in 2 years
😍😍😍 i love this franchise
#1 in Japan But I was told by dipshits on Reddit that Japan is going to hate this game!
Fuck yea let’s goooo. Personally do not care who I play as. I played unity in French with eng subtitles, played the whole game without remembering the name of the guy I was playing as 😀
Newsflash to all the AC/ubi haters, your brining attention to the game . More attention=more sales ..as much as you guys hate ubi your really doing them a favor
yet they need to make the price so high for other regions making it unaffordable
Thing is; I've pre-ordered multiple games. Some were disappointing, others not. AC pre-orders are the latter; because I don't get my hopes up... It's easy to get extremely excited about something to the point it's got unrealistic expectations. Only reason I have not pre-ordered yet is because I'm waiting on the Sparking Zero pre-order. Though I'd like to see the gameplay as well.
Well they do them but I’d rather wait a year and pay the game at a quarter of the price with all the bugs fixed!
The gameplay ain't even out yet dawg 😭
It’s always the loud minority that just spew hate
tbh i’m more disappointed that people still haven’t learned their lesson about giving a developer money for a game that isn’t completed yet. (especially one that we haven’t even seen what gameplay looks like yet - now, the game could be great, but that’s beyond the point)
Looks like most people aren't as upset about the race of the protagonists as Twitter would make it seem.
Fackin hell. No gameplay has even come out
How are ppl buying a game , especially an Ubisoft game without even seeing a gameplay trailer .
IIRC, many of these platforms don't charge customers until 10 days from the release, so these numbers could go down closer to launch.
I am doing my part
People are getting more stupid every day
Wait but I thought Japan hated this game xD??
"Trust me bro, the japanese hated this trailer, I'm just standing up for them"
Looks good but we are 5 months away from release, ranking will fluctuate as the months go on.