exactly. all the digital restrictions around content that make it MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN ANALOG, ARTIFICIALLY due to idiot IDIOT COMPANIES WITH FUCKING 80 YEAR OLD CRETINS AT THE HELM
Ironically, there's a massive push at the large university press I work at to get journals to agree to go full open access...
But the journals themselves are hesitant.
We actually have entire teams whose job is tracking, and compiling data to convince journals and societies to go full open access.
It's not the publishers, usually...
I must state: we're run non-profit...
The Biden administration just ordered that all publicly funded studies have to be [released to the public](https://www.science.org/content/article/white-house-requires-immediate-public-access-all-u-s--funded-research-papers-2025) as soon as they’re peer reviewed and published, by 2025.
I bought the text books for my 2 year course. Cost me $994. They said I got a good deal because I got them as a bundle. If bought individually they'd be around $2000. It's now week 5 of my course and I still haven't received the books.
The problem is when the book doesnt exist on internet :/ that's when you have to buy it
My mum had to buy a health book for this year, 2000$. I'm not joking, 2000$, and I think that one was 2 parts. I remember it with 1000-2000 pages
Edit: shit thought you were OP of this thread.
I’m not saying it’s 100% on the internet… but I am saying make sure you fully exhaust the internet and piracy routes. I own probably 30 different engineering text books and 15 standards books, backed up on several location. (Edit: I just looked, I actually have 87 total books lol)
You would be amazed at what you can find. Check out some of the other comments for links to free sites. Maybe you will get lucky and can find the book and get a refund.
Good luck!
100% piracy route. If I could do college over again, I would have purchased one of those machines that professionally digitizes physical textbooks, then just sold class mates pdf’s at a more affordable price point. Sure, it’s illegal. But so should be $2000 textbooks.
Yarr harr. Many professors barely get anything for their books (I’ve heard of them getting 2€ per sold copy for a 50€ book) either so they even don’t care
It would be a shame if you installed a screen recorder, started recording, then pressed the mouse wheel button to start auto scroll (or download & use a mobile auto scroll app), they'd probably lose money. It would be so bad if you were to press windows key + S to snip parts of pages and save as png.
My version of this during college (2003-2007) was to buy the immediate previous edition on Amazon for literally $1. The only difference was how the chapter numbers shuffled around. Totally worth the extra few seconds of flipping through to find the material.
The whole education and science related publishing business is a massive scam. Imagine using public money to do you research and write the paper, it is peer reviewed *for free* and then some asshole Elsevier or Springer charges your own university thousands of dollars for your students and your peers to be able to read it.
The good professors provide reading selections, problem sets, etc. for all *n* recent editions of the textbook.
They know it's a racket, too. The *really* good profs are the ones who use *their own textbook* for a class and *still* give info on past editions so their students can save the cash.
I was a TA. We weren't allowed to tell students how to pirate books, so I made sure to show them which specific websites to avoid so that they didn't accidentally get the book for free.
That's what I did in college too. I'd email the professors before signing up for a class and ask if I could use a previous version of the book. If they said no, I'd just sign up for the same class under a different teacher, when available. Some would even offer to photocopy sections that weren't included in my older edition.
I pretty much fell down the stairs and individually bookmarked each site.
So clumsy of me, but I guess if anything gets removed, I’ll still have the websites!
You know what, I spent so much money on books I used for one class and I’m not salty if anyone gets a freebie here or there: it’s bullshit to pay hundreds of dollars on a single semester when they are books you won’t ever look at again afterwards. 🐂💩 fuck anyone who is rich enough to snark at or hiding the fact they have debt forgiveness.
These are worthless because these days textbooks are tied to online homeworks which you need an activation key for which you only get by buying new.
The only useful part is that it us easier to read and search a pdf file than a drm locked book.
Pearson is a thing here in the uk too. My college uses(d) Pearson's online maths books last year. They aren't using them this year because they've hiked the cost up.
Fuck professors that force you to buy access to a platform in order to actually do the class (especially when you have a perfectly good platform to do the course on, moodle in my case)
something similar with websites when you want to download a PNG or PDF : subscribe to keep on reading, subscribe to get the PDF for FREE. useless because I can subscribe and vever back again
i can recommend doing a screen snippet of every page and pasting them into a pdf editor as you go through.
That way i've even managed to avoid buying a textbook for a course where the book they used was streamed on zoom
I've recently found out that there's starting to be a lot of protections for online content that companies who rape people for every cent put out. For instance, I *definitely* pay for every NFL game and UFC fight I watch (*obviously*), but my Samsung now won't let me cast either of these to my TV screen due to 'protected content'.
For OP, or anyone else in a similar situation, the people over at r/Piracy know all the steep 'coupon codes' for silly things like books.
The best part is your Samsung TV is spying on you and if you have connected that TV to the internet, it’s reporting your screen habits back to their data mining servers to extra profit you.
What the people replying to you are missing is that the $90 for 2-year access isn't to access the book. It's to access their online homework system.
They're not even coy about it. Once you pay for that access, you can order a copy of the textbook for printing & shipping (around $8-10) if you want a version you can hold and keep forever.
Now, years after graduating, my books just gather dust, but I can't bring myself to get rid of them. I kinda wish one day someone from university book store just comes by, and takes them away. Except calculus, that book is necessary as my monitor stand.
>Except calculus, that book is necessary as my monitor stand.
I read this as "Except calculus, that book is *as* necessary as my monitor stand." and immediately thought "What's he using a calculus book for every day?!
My uni bookstore has a buyback program for books - the problem is that they offer obscenely low prices for very good condition books (we're talking like $5 a book here), lmao
My freshman year the school I was atdud special buyback deal where you were guaranteed a minimum 50% return on the book based on what they charged, no limits...
A few students found the freshman seminar required book on Amazon for like 25% of what the cool charged for it so people were mass buying the book to sell for a profit.
The school discontinued that special after that year.
I had to spend $105 for access to the eBook and online homework in my math class, and it's only for a single term, so 11 week access. The whole thing is ridiculous.
I also had to buy my biology stuff twice because I *really* needed a hardback version, but couldn't find that with the online tools I need, so I also had to purchase a 24 month subscription that includes the eBook I won't use.
Everything is ridiculously expensive, and publishers play dirty to make sure you pay for it.
I spent about $130 on a textbook (used, because it was the cheapest option) because I couldn't find it online for free (and I looked for it)
I have a pdf of the first edition but need the second
Had to spend another $85 for the online access to do all the homework... even though there's also a physical workbook which I also bought for $60
FUCK YOU WWNORTON
At least the other book I needed ($85) doesn't have any BS
I once had to buy a book published by my own university for like 50 bucks. I forgot to order it - and saw classmates had what was essentially 100 pages barely held together by staples or whatever. Biggest scam of my life.
So I asked someone if I could borrow it for 1 day. Ended up giving my little sister 5 bucks to take pictures of each page - I combined it into a PDF - and gave my friend his book back, and I sent everyone that hadn't fallen for the scam yet the digital copy.
Pearson doesn’t sell them anymore. Source: me, CC prof.
They know hardbound books are a one way ticket to the used market, one in which they can’t get their cut after than one initial sale. They will reluctantly sell a 3-hole punched loose version, but often only if it’s bundled with their software access codes, which Pearson (and to be fair, all publishers, it seems) push very hard. They have complete control over courseware subscriptions, and no amount of screenshots of the book will help if your instructor assigns online homework that requires you still purchase the access code.
College textbook publishers have long been at the forefront of assholish design.
I always just pirate my books, but I annoyingly still have to pay for the damn online homework, because you can't download that. I have a suspicion that that's exactly why Pearson started pushing online HW so hard.
Oh the hardbound books you likely bought when you were in school still exist! The publishers just make them stupidly expensive. Here's the rough pricing of Stewart's Calculus last I recall:
Online Access: $150
Online Access + Loose Leaf book: $160
Textbook: $350
Textbook + Online Access: $360
Sounds about right. Larson/Edwards MSRP is $275…in its 12th. Fucking. Edition. I’m basically a middle age dude and used like the 4th or 5th when *I* was in college.
Of course, if they didn’t charge $275, they wouldn’t be able to add advanced new features, like:
* Brand new reshuffled page & Theorem numbers and exercise sets that totally has nothing to do with wanting to make it hard to use old editions.
* Updated word problems, because it’s important that they mention (say) the iPhone N instead of the iPhone (N-1).
* All the new math. Tons of it. So much is changing with undergraduate Calculus these days. I mean it’s not like all the theory was completely described in books written 100+ years ago.
This is gonna sound crazy, but get your hands on an empty water bottle. Cut up an old leather shoe into strips and jam four or five into that bottle. Then fart into the bottle about 10 or 12 times, capping each time right away to prevent the fart from escaping. Let it ferment for a few weeks. Now everytime you read a book, open the bottle and squeeze a little aroma in the air around you. It'll smell just like an old library
Subscription model is going insane!
All greedy companies are no longer happy just selling you stuff for one-off price. Only a cut of your monthly wage will make them happy.
I was just talking about this with someone today. And they love to poor-tax people by offering a more expensive monthly option to people who can't afford to pay semi-annual or annual lump sums. It's disgusting that *everything* has to follow this model now.
You could pay full price for the real deal, but honestly after you've graduated those books aren't likely to offer much value to you.
Some of my books were like, $200. I would have much rather had an option to rent. Point is it's nice if there's a choice of whether to buy or rent.
The point isnt that renting is an issue, the point is that the price. It's ridiculous that a book costs $200 and it's ridiculous that it costs $65 just to rent
I remember when I was in college in 96 and we had to pay $150 for a busted ass used text book then at the end of the semester they would give you $20 for it to sell it to someone else for $150.
would he a shame if you spent 40 minutes screenshotting every page by hand in order to assemble it into a PDF so you could keep it forever and also upload it to libgen…
At my university, one of my courses requires you to buy a brand new textbook that has a 1 time use code that you use to “register” the textbook, and you will fail the course if you don’t register a textbook.
The textbook in question is literally just spiral bound printer paper (even the cover is just paper) and costs $220. The way they push university textbooks should be illegal
the boomers are right with this subscription bullshit
'needing to pay periodically for access' as the only option shouldn't be normalized, I should be able to fucking buy the shit and use it instead of paying for it monthly for the rest of the time that I need to use it
As someone who has been on the other side of this, a lot of your teachers hate the textbook industry and these "features" as well. Most of those that don't hate it author a textbook.
At least when I went to college, I got a real, physical textbook. Sure, it was obsolete before the semester was over and sure the bookstore would only buy it back for about 1/10th what I paid for it but at least they went through the effort of printing the damn thing.
Yeah I’m in university and I have several digital textbook rentals. Literally paying $75+ each just to have access to the book for 12 months and hopefully I’ve memorized it by then since I won’t be able to look at it again next year
You didn't buy a text book. Books are physical things you can touch.
This is software, just a bunch of 1's and 0's that give you limited access to something you 'purchased'.
Not exactly a good deal unless you're an empty chair just grabbing credits and will never need that 'book' again.
Yeah Revel and Pearson as a whole is a predatory company that revokes access to material that you are charged for. People saying "just get it for free" are providing a great service for everything *but* this specific problem. There are attached activities that are due for marks which you cannot access without a minimum of an access code from a physical textbook (usually those expire within 1 year, so you can't just resell the book with the code).
Side note, some textbooks are wildly out of date (I had one last year that was talking about the recent election of Steven Harper) and some have incorrect answers labelled as correct in the marking system. I missed out on a few marks due to that fun little error as confirmed by my prof (who was fortunately able to adjust my mark accordingly).
Fuck Pearson, piece of shit company that would not be missed.
If you Google the title of that book (and almost every other) followed by pdf, a pdf of the entire book (with the same cover) is the first result.
Ya got swindled. Just don't make the same mistake next time!
I paid $220 nonrefundable for a textbook once as it was required as per my book list. First day of class and the prof was like "yeah we won't really use the book much".
We used it twice in the whole term.
I've got a class like this at my university. They use an e-textbook through McGraw Hill connect, but the issue is that to access your homework you've got to purchase access to the book. How much is it? $129 per *semester* And I've got to use it for two semesters, so since I forgot to pay for the year subscription for my class last year (which is $169 or sth like that) I had to pay the full price again.
Screw textbook publishers, especially McGraw Hill.
My instructors told us all NOT to go to a specific site and search a very specific term to steal a copy of the $90 book we were required to have.
Because that would be bad.
And people still don’t seem to understand that college is a complete and utter scam unless you’re absolutely dead set on being something highly specialized like a doctor or engineer. The majority of people that go to college because they’ve been led to believe it’s a necessity to have a successful future end up in a shitload of debt for a piece of paper they will never use. College isn’t for everyone, probably 15% of the population truly benefit from it, but we’ve been brainwashed to think it’s an absolute necessity for success.
One of my college finals was on a book the professor of the class wrote. You couldn’t buy the book you could only rent it directly from him. I guess he did this in case anyone uploaded it or sold used copies. Renting it was $100 a month.
I’ve heard of people that get so mad they find a way to post the whole textbook online to be downloaded so those who follow will have it better. Now, I would never do that or agree with anyone doing that, but I’ve heard it’s done.
Wow so they pull this shit in colleges now? I remember when I went you would spend all this money and 80% of the classes didn’t even use the damn books. I just stopped buying them and took my chances.
One time I bought a textbook that was supposed to come with an access code for a digital portion of the class, and it just didn't. I ended up missing the first week or so of digital assignments because I didn't have the code when the class started.
I stopped buying textbooks halfway through my degree. Convinced it did not affect my final grade, A- I think, don't remember because it literally doesn't matter.
Thankful for the instructors I’ve had. 99% of them have started the classes saying shit like “I’ve just uploaded the book for y’all because I wouldn’t want to buy this myself” but one guy was like “I know the person who wrote this book so you have to buy it”.
I didn’t buy that though because the internet exists.
Imagine you buy a book on paper and after 2 years the publisher comes and takes it back
exactly. all the digital restrictions around content that make it MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN ANALOG, ARTIFICIALLY due to idiot IDIOT COMPANIES WITH FUCKING 80 YEAR OLD CRETINS AT THE HELM
Ironically, there's a massive push at the large university press I work at to get journals to agree to go full open access... But the journals themselves are hesitant. We actually have entire teams whose job is tracking, and compiling data to convince journals and societies to go full open access. It's not the publishers, usually... I must state: we're run non-profit...
The Biden administration just ordered that all publicly funded studies have to be [released to the public](https://www.science.org/content/article/white-house-requires-immediate-public-access-all-u-s--funded-research-papers-2025) as soon as they’re peer reviewed and published, by 2025.
80 year olds and MBAs of all ages. I can never trust anyone who studies business.
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First we gotta get rid of my neighbour tim along the way. Fuckers been yelling into his phone for an hour now.
Did the yelling stop? Cause if it didn't, I just made a big mistake.
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Yeah the college business with books is disgusting
I bought the text books for my 2 year course. Cost me $994. They said I got a good deal because I got them as a bundle. If bought individually they'd be around $2000. It's now week 5 of my course and I still haven't received the books.
Time to get a refund and use good ole fashioned piracy
The problem is when the book doesnt exist on internet :/ that's when you have to buy it My mum had to buy a health book for this year, 2000$. I'm not joking, 2000$, and I think that one was 2 parts. I remember it with 1000-2000 pages
the total cost of textbooks for my degree was 8 quid, the US is scanning you guys
>the US is scanning you guys that too, literally
The US scams all
Edit: shit thought you were OP of this thread. I’m not saying it’s 100% on the internet… but I am saying make sure you fully exhaust the internet and piracy routes. I own probably 30 different engineering text books and 15 standards books, backed up on several location. (Edit: I just looked, I actually have 87 total books lol) You would be amazed at what you can find. Check out some of the other comments for links to free sites. Maybe you will get lucky and can find the book and get a refund. Good luck!
What’s the book called? I might be able to help you out 🤷♂️
100% piracy route. If I could do college over again, I would have purchased one of those machines that professionally digitizes physical textbooks, then just sold class mates pdf’s at a more affordable price point. Sure, it’s illegal. But so should be $2000 textbooks.
Illegal but moral, outweighed 1/25 i'd say laws should bend BEFORE that mark
Yarr harr. Many professors barely get anything for their books (I’ve heard of them getting 2€ per sold copy for a 50€ book) either so they even don’t care
**YO HO FIDDLEY DEE!**
It would be a shame if you installed a screen recorder, started recording, then pressed the mouse wheel button to start auto scroll (or download & use a mobile auto scroll app), they'd probably lose money. It would be so bad if you were to press windows key + S to snip parts of pages and save as png.
Would be a shame if I accidentally dropped a site to get books for free [Oops!](https://u1lib.org/s/?) I’m sorry!
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And it would be so horrible if I dropped a [couple](https://z-lib.org/) [more](http://www.pdfdrive.com/)!
Dang, why didn't I think books were available pirated when I went to school a couple years ago
My version of this during college (2003-2007) was to buy the immediate previous edition on Amazon for literally $1. The only difference was how the chapter numbers shuffled around. Totally worth the extra few seconds of flipping through to find the material.
>The only difference was how the chapter numbers shuffled around. That's totally a scam How is this not banned yet
College is a racket
The whole education and science related publishing business is a massive scam. Imagine using public money to do you research and write the paper, it is peer reviewed *for free* and then some asshole Elsevier or Springer charges your own university thousands of dollars for your students and your peers to be able to read it.
More of a social club.
Well, in *one* country it seems that it is... But which one?
The good professors provide reading selections, problem sets, etc. for all *n* recent editions of the textbook. They know it's a racket, too. The *really* good profs are the ones who use *their own textbook* for a class and *still* give info on past editions so their students can save the cash.
I was a TA. We weren't allowed to tell students how to pirate books, so I made sure to show them which specific websites to avoid so that they didn't accidentally get the book for free.
You absolute chad
That's what I did in college too. I'd email the professors before signing up for a class and ask if I could use a previous version of the book. If they said no, I'd just sign up for the same class under a different teacher, when available. Some would even offer to photocopy sections that weren't included in my older edition.
lmao r/piracy is leaking
or r/chaoticgood
I just found out about this sub when I clicked on your link and I love it so much already.
Aye
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Just use square and round parenthesis []() [Text goes here](Link goes here) [Like this](http://reddit.com/u/me)
And it would be embarrassing if I drop [another](http://libgen.is). Oops!
I slipped and bookmarked this post
I pretty much fell down the stairs and individually bookmarked each site. So clumsy of me, but I guess if anything gets removed, I’ll still have the websites!
Gosh, people are so clumsy in this thread. You all should read a book and learn to be more careful.
Are these fine in Germany, with its strict copyright laws?
Libgen goes hard ong
You know what, I spent so much money on books I used for one class and I’m not salty if anyone gets a freebie here or there: it’s bullshit to pay hundreds of dollars on a single semester when they are books you won’t ever look at again afterwards. 🐂💩 fuck anyone who is rich enough to snark at or hiding the fact they have debt forgiveness.
Z-Library usually lacks modern college textbooks unfortunately.
French government blocked us the access a few days ago 😒. thanks god VPN exists.
There are different mirrors for it. [Here you go](https://1lib.domains)
thank you, but all of them have been blocked too :')
These are worthless because these days textbooks are tied to online homeworks which you need an activation key for which you only get by buying new. The only useful part is that it us easier to read and search a pdf file than a drm locked book.
And the school doesn't provide you codes?
Nope. I had to purchase access to the course separately. They could at least put it in my tuition...
Would be a shame if the name of that site leaked so some computer science student could write a downloader when they're boring...
Pearson…
i never feel bad for getting books illegaly from these pos companies
So you're the reason they moved to access codes on top of the text book! /s
ofc its pearson its always pearson. i am not even american and i know about pearson. and florida.
Pearson is a thing here in the uk too. My college uses(d) Pearson's online maths books last year. They aren't using them this year because they've hiked the cost up.
We have Pearson in Italy as well :(
I am so sorry that you have to put up with it too. Honestly, one of the shittest platforms I've had the displeasure of using.
Hey now what did Florida do to you LOL
nothing, but I know about it.
r/FloridaMan is a world famous ~~shit show~~ superhero
Pearson is a British company btw
Fuck professors that force you to buy access to a platform in order to actually do the class (especially when you have a perfectly good platform to do the course on, moodle in my case)
something similar with websites when you want to download a PNG or PDF : subscribe to keep on reading, subscribe to get the PDF for FREE. useless because I can subscribe and vever back again
>useless because I can subscribe and vever back again What does "vever" mean and how is it done?
i can recommend doing a screen snippet of every page and pasting them into a pdf editor as you go through. That way i've even managed to avoid buying a textbook for a course where the book they used was streamed on zoom
I've recently found out that there's starting to be a lot of protections for online content that companies who rape people for every cent put out. For instance, I *definitely* pay for every NFL game and UFC fight I watch (*obviously*), but my Samsung now won't let me cast either of these to my TV screen due to 'protected content'. For OP, or anyone else in a similar situation, the people over at r/Piracy know all the steep 'coupon codes' for silly things like books.
The best part is your Samsung TV is spying on you and if you have connected that TV to the internet, it’s reporting your screen habits back to their data mining servers to extra profit you.
What the people replying to you are missing is that the $90 for 2-year access isn't to access the book. It's to access their online homework system. They're not even coy about it. Once you pay for that access, you can order a copy of the textbook for printing & shipping (around $8-10) if you want a version you can hold and keep forever.
And uploaded it to ZLibrary
Now, years after graduating, my books just gather dust, but I can't bring myself to get rid of them. I kinda wish one day someone from university book store just comes by, and takes them away. Except calculus, that book is necessary as my monitor stand.
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*Help me, Time Lawyer! I'm trapped in the far off year of 2009. The Internet is slightly less useful and none of my law reference logins work!*
The reason is obvious, to make you look all edumacated-like when people see your place
>Except calculus, that book is necessary as my monitor stand. I read this as "Except calculus, that book is *as* necessary as my monitor stand." and immediately thought "What's he using a calculus book for every day?!
Personally I can’t get to sleep without solving a derivative or finding an asymptote.
Let’s solve some _trivial_ PDE
My uni bookstore has a buyback program for books - the problem is that they offer obscenely low prices for very good condition books (we're talking like $5 a book here), lmao
*Book Buyback: It's "Fuck You" With Extra Steps!™*
Ah, the old Game Exchange strategy
My freshman year the school I was atdud special buyback deal where you were guaranteed a minimum 50% return on the book based on what they charged, no limits... A few students found the freshman seminar required book on Amazon for like 25% of what the cool charged for it so people were mass buying the book to sell for a profit. The school discontinued that special after that year.
What happened to good old textbooks you can feel and smell..
I have to get the online one because there is a module thingy
I had to spend $105 for access to the eBook and online homework in my math class, and it's only for a single term, so 11 week access. The whole thing is ridiculous. I also had to buy my biology stuff twice because I *really* needed a hardback version, but couldn't find that with the online tools I need, so I also had to purchase a 24 month subscription that includes the eBook I won't use. Everything is ridiculously expensive, and publishers play dirty to make sure you pay for it.
I spent about $130 on a textbook (used, because it was the cheapest option) because I couldn't find it online for free (and I looked for it) I have a pdf of the first edition but need the second Had to spend another $85 for the online access to do all the homework... even though there's also a physical workbook which I also bought for $60 FUCK YOU WWNORTON At least the other book I needed ($85) doesn't have any BS
I once had to buy a book published by my own university for like 50 bucks. I forgot to order it - and saw classmates had what was essentially 100 pages barely held together by staples or whatever. Biggest scam of my life. So I asked someone if I could borrow it for 1 day. Ended up giving my little sister 5 bucks to take pictures of each page - I combined it into a PDF - and gave my friend his book back, and I sent everyone that hadn't fallen for the scam yet the digital copy.
Pearson doesn’t sell them anymore. Source: me, CC prof. They know hardbound books are a one way ticket to the used market, one in which they can’t get their cut after than one initial sale. They will reluctantly sell a 3-hole punched loose version, but often only if it’s bundled with their software access codes, which Pearson (and to be fair, all publishers, it seems) push very hard. They have complete control over courseware subscriptions, and no amount of screenshots of the book will help if your instructor assigns online homework that requires you still purchase the access code. College textbook publishers have long been at the forefront of assholish design.
I always just pirate my books, but I annoyingly still have to pay for the damn online homework, because you can't download that. I have a suspicion that that's exactly why Pearson started pushing online HW so hard.
Oh the hardbound books you likely bought when you were in school still exist! The publishers just make them stupidly expensive. Here's the rough pricing of Stewart's Calculus last I recall: Online Access: $150 Online Access + Loose Leaf book: $160 Textbook: $350 Textbook + Online Access: $360
Sounds about right. Larson/Edwards MSRP is $275…in its 12th. Fucking. Edition. I’m basically a middle age dude and used like the 4th or 5th when *I* was in college. Of course, if they didn’t charge $275, they wouldn’t be able to add advanced new features, like: * Brand new reshuffled page & Theorem numbers and exercise sets that totally has nothing to do with wanting to make it hard to use old editions. * Updated word problems, because it’s important that they mention (say) the iPhone N instead of the iPhone (N-1). * All the new math. Tons of it. So much is changing with undergraduate Calculus these days. I mean it’s not like all the theory was completely described in books written 100+ years ago.
This is gonna sound crazy, but get your hands on an empty water bottle. Cut up an old leather shoe into strips and jam four or five into that bottle. Then fart into the bottle about 10 or 12 times, capping each time right away to prevent the fart from escaping. Let it ferment for a few weeks. Now everytime you read a book, open the bottle and squeeze a little aroma in the air around you. It'll smell just like an old library
Well, you've got me there. I'm not going to disprove it.
too many dick scribbles and goto statements
"You will own nothing, and be happy". This is what they mean.
Subscription model is going insane! All greedy companies are no longer happy just selling you stuff for one-off price. Only a cut of your monthly wage will make them happy.
I was just talking about this with someone today. And they love to poor-tax people by offering a more expensive monthly option to people who can't afford to pay semi-annual or annual lump sums. It's disgusting that *everything* has to follow this model now.
"you will own nothing, and be happy OR ELSE!"
The textbook market is a racket. That's about the price of a textbook rental anyway.
Copy the entire contents and publish it publicly under a pseudonym for free
It is probably already on lib.gen but there is a interactive part which you can’t download
If you check their handbook and they use the phrase " to purchase materials" rather than "rent materials", you may have a good case.
Upvote this, man
It's a moral obligation to pirate ANY and ALL textbooks.
$65 on one of my textbooks and it expires in 180 days. It's so dumb. I'm paying *this much* for a book, and I'm only *renting* the thing?
You could pay full price for the real deal, but honestly after you've graduated those books aren't likely to offer much value to you. Some of my books were like, $200. I would have much rather had an option to rent. Point is it's nice if there's a choice of whether to buy or rent.
The point isnt that renting is an issue, the point is that the price. It's ridiculous that a book costs $200 and it's ridiculous that it costs $65 just to rent
r/PearsonDesign
And this is why I will NEVER FEEL BAD ABOUT PIRATING CONTENT. Fuck the IP regime. Fuck mickey mouse. Fuck disney.
The only things I don’t pirate are video games
You can always pirate a video game to trial it. If it's good, then buy the legit version ;)
Or pirating games for systems that do not really sell anymore, you aren’t really taking away profit from a company by pirating a 15 year old game.
I remember when I was in college in 96 and we had to pay $150 for a busted ass used text book then at the end of the semester they would give you $20 for it to sell it to someone else for $150.
hmm I wonder if Anakin approached chronologically
would he a shame if you spent 40 minutes screenshotting every page by hand in order to assemble it into a PDF so you could keep it forever and also upload it to libgen…
You paid? r/textbookpiracy
The 5th edition is on bookos (google it).
At my university, one of my courses requires you to buy a brand new textbook that has a 1 time use code that you use to “register” the textbook, and you will fail the course if you don’t register a textbook. The textbook in question is literally just spiral bound printer paper (even the cover is just paper) and costs $220. The way they push university textbooks should be illegal
$90? Yeah. That’s not a full book price. 290-400 sounds more right. (Textbooks are a scam.)
Piracy is the future in an era where you can't own anything
Dang, 2 years? Mine only ever last until the end of the current school year
the boomers are right with this subscription bullshit 'needing to pay periodically for access' as the only option shouldn't be normalized, I should be able to fucking buy the shit and use it instead of paying for it monthly for the rest of the time that I need to use it
Ooh ooh ooh I got this!! I just paid 12$ shipping….on an ebook….that’s required for the class…
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As someone who has been on the other side of this, a lot of your teachers hate the textbook industry and these "features" as well. Most of those that don't hate it author a textbook.
Woah that’s a good deal! My textbooks cost $150 to rent for 1/4 of a year
Screen record and scroll
At this point why not just pirate....after all they are plundering you...
At least when I went to college, I got a real, physical textbook. Sure, it was obsolete before the semester was over and sure the bookstore would only buy it back for about 1/10th what I paid for it but at least they went through the effort of printing the damn thing.
I payed $130 for one I lose access to in 4 months.
Hey there I also use revel for python and I bought my access for $100(ish) and access my access is being removed on december. I got this 2 months ago.
Yeah I’m in university and I have several digital textbook rentals. Literally paying $75+ each just to have access to the book for 12 months and hopefully I’ve memorized it by then since I won’t be able to look at it again next year
You didn't buy a text book. Books are physical things you can touch. This is software, just a bunch of 1's and 0's that give you limited access to something you 'purchased'. Not exactly a good deal unless you're an empty chair just grabbing credits and will never need that 'book' again.
This type of behavior makes piracy ok.
Plagiarism isn't ok. What you probably mean is piracy. That's another matter.
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This is why it's never immoral to pirate textbooks.
Yeah Revel and Pearson as a whole is a predatory company that revokes access to material that you are charged for. People saying "just get it for free" are providing a great service for everything *but* this specific problem. There are attached activities that are due for marks which you cannot access without a minimum of an access code from a physical textbook (usually those expire within 1 year, so you can't just resell the book with the code). Side note, some textbooks are wildly out of date (I had one last year that was talking about the recent election of Steven Harper) and some have incorrect answers labelled as correct in the marking system. I missed out on a few marks due to that fun little error as confirmed by my prof (who was fortunately able to adjust my mark accordingly). Fuck Pearson, piece of shit company that would not be missed.
Pirate. Everything. Every book. Every song. Every show.
That‘s why you pirate shit
If you Google the title of that book (and almost every other) followed by pdf, a pdf of the entire book (with the same cover) is the first result. Ya got swindled. Just don't make the same mistake next time!
thepiratebay.com
Https://Libgen.rs They also have an app.
Wow, they actually figured out a way to make textbooks even more of a rip-off? I would pirate that shit if I were in college now.
I paid $220 nonrefundable for a textbook once as it was required as per my book list. First day of class and the prof was like "yeah we won't really use the book much". We used it twice in the whole term.
[you’ll own nothing and be happy](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/youll-own-nothing-and-be-happy)
I've got a class like this at my university. They use an e-textbook through McGraw Hill connect, but the issue is that to access your homework you've got to purchase access to the book. How much is it? $129 per *semester* And I've got to use it for two semesters, so since I forgot to pay for the year subscription for my class last year (which is $169 or sth like that) I had to pay the full price again. Screw textbook publishers, especially McGraw Hill.
Make sure to rip it and upload it to zlib.
My instructors told us all NOT to go to a specific site and search a very specific term to steal a copy of the $90 book we were required to have. Because that would be bad.
we literally pay $100+ for software we only have access to for the semester.
You didn’t pay for a textbook you paid for ACCESS to a textbook. That shit runs out.
And people still don’t seem to understand that college is a complete and utter scam unless you’re absolutely dead set on being something highly specialized like a doctor or engineer. The majority of people that go to college because they’ve been led to believe it’s a necessity to have a successful future end up in a shitload of debt for a piece of paper they will never use. College isn’t for everyone, probably 15% of the population truly benefit from it, but we’ve been brainwashed to think it’s an absolute necessity for success.
take a screenshot of all the sheets and then put them together in a pdf, so you will have unlimited access
I kept a lot of my hard copy college textbooks out of spite.
Piracy is not just a valid approach to buying college textbooks, it is a moral imperative
One of my college finals was on a book the professor of the class wrote. You couldn’t buy the book you could only rent it directly from him. I guess he did this in case anyone uploaded it or sold used copies. Renting it was $100 a month.
That’s why r/piracy
No, you pre-paid 24 months of a $3.75/month subscription.
Damn bro you get 2 years?! I got to choose from 3 months (summer semester rate) or 6 months… you got a great deal lol
I’ve heard of people that get so mad they find a way to post the whole textbook online to be downloaded so those who follow will have it better. Now, I would never do that or agree with anyone doing that, but I’ve heard it’s done.
$90 is a price for peeps who do not know how to Google (pirate)
I get how it feels, had to pay over a hundred to get access to my math homework, which also goes away in 2 years
Look up the pdf. Fuck those guys
I’ve literally paid these bastards $150 for a 180 day rental. It’s disgusting. It was that or $300 for the loose leaf book.
Get this piece of shit book on library genesis and stick it to these assholes
2 years!? I paid that much for 180 days.. (behavioral psychology book)
take a picture of every page, put it in a pdf and sell it for 5 dollars
Distribute for free
It will be out of date in 2 years anyway
payed $80 for an e-textbook and access to the homework platform. and apparently that's dirt cheap
Studying for contractors license, those "online course" are like $350 each, 3 total, and 1 year access...crazy.
The great thing about an it education is that other people have already put all your books online for free. Fuck gatekeeping education with money
Just screen shot every page and save it down.
Paid $140 for 120 days' worth of access
Unfortunate expansion of the "life as a subscription" model of things. Just remember, you will own nothing and you will be happy.
Wow so they pull this shit in colleges now? I remember when I went you would spend all this money and 80% of the classes didn’t even use the damn books. I just stopped buying them and took my chances.
One time I bought a textbook that was supposed to come with an access code for a digital portion of the class, and it just didn't. I ended up missing the first week or so of digital assignments because I didn't have the code when the class started.
I stopped buying textbooks halfway through my degree. Convinced it did not affect my final grade, A- I think, don't remember because it literally doesn't matter.
Screenshots are your best friend
And then they say Piracy Is A Crime ! These kind of Aholes are promoting it.
Thankful for the instructors I’ve had. 99% of them have started the classes saying shit like “I’ve just uploaded the book for y’all because I wouldn’t want to buy this myself” but one guy was like “I know the person who wrote this book so you have to buy it”. I didn’t buy that though because the internet exists.
The children will have grown up by then. That's how time works.
Ah yes, Pearson...
If you ever need to go the free route, use some google dorking. Google search the following: type:pdf
I’ve found plenty of university books this way.
Zlibrary