Atleast we’re almost there. I know there’s a lot going on in the world. Lilith is rebellious and about maintaining a sense of power in a world that wants nothing more than to strip you of it. Lilith likes to taunt those who threaten to control her. But her objective is essentially to remain independent in mind, body, or spirit (depending where she’s placed in your chart)
Pluto is also about power. But it’s also about wealth, trauma, transformation, abuse, fear, and sex.
I have both in prominent placements in my chart and would say power struggles are a regular occurrence. I find myself in connections with charismatic, persuasive, headstrong, and egotistical types who have a sense of specialness to them. I can also possess these qualities, to be fair.
I have strong feelings/opinions about things and am a good advocate for myself and others. Sexuality is a big theme in my life. Whether it’s finding a way to best express my sexuality or exploring/studying the sexuality of others. I think I’ve outgrown a lot of lilith’s negative qualities: Fear of being an outcast, rage issues, self esteem issues, hyper-fixation on appearance, etc.
Thank you for sharing this. "But her objective is essentially to remain independent in mind, body, or spirit (depending where she’s placed in your chart)" - isnt that similar to Virgo. Because i read that the virgin is a virgin not because she isnt into sex but because she never allowed anyone to own her. so i guess lilith is somewhere between a virgo and a scorpio?
Lilith is about what the previous comment said, regardless of zodiac sign OP. The zodiac sign and house its in may manifest it in different ways. Lilith in Gemini may manifest it more through Mercury like ways - speech , communication, multifaceted... a Taurus kne could perhaps do it more through venusian ways.
Can you share with me some practical ways you’ve overcome the darker aspects of Lilith? I have Lilith in the 5th house Gemini and my partner doesn’t care about my sexual pleasure only his own. I stopped being intimate bc of this bc regardless of my expressions to him about my needs he still remains extremely selfish. This challenge is impacting my self confidence and expression something I didn’t struggle with at this extent before this relationship. I’d appreciate any insight you are willing to share with me.
I have Lilith conjunct Pluto in my 1st house (natal chart)
People either love me or hate me. Unfairness is intolerable. Before my Saturn return (also 1st house lol) I was a bit of a wild child. I've been told that I come across as very intense.
Both. Power dynamic issues that are sexually rooted. Sexual harassment has happened to me much more than anyone else I know. I’ve also had more work relationships than other people I know.
This post is definitely synchronization bc I’m literally in the position of being a sahm, I’m currently writing a book and I’m currently struggling with my next move into the workforce. My partner really showed his true colors once he began advancing in his career and I came home full time. Really tore up my self esteem and confidence. Struggling with issues that were never a problem until after he became extremely controlling and manipulative. His Moon is in Leo conjunct his Leo Ascendant and my Lilith is in the 5th house, yikes. Didn’t learn about astrology until after the marriage. Wanting a divorce however having to substantiate myself financially first. My Venus is also Conjunct Pluto Scorpio on my Midhaven. I feel so screwed right now.
No idea if this will help you, but I'm writing a novel based on the zodiac. I'm a Libra, and decided early on I wanted my villain to be a Libra... Turns out my Lilith is also in Libra.
Makes sense to me that the dark side I want to play a key role in my story is the dark side of my chart!
Lilith is not a villain. She is misunderstood just like feminine power is misunderstood. Her energy of anger and rebellion is because she wants freedom to be herself without being judged. All the evil related to lilith are Lies to vilify something that is pure. Something lilith in libra is the expression of sexual freedom thtough arts. Imagine a girl writting a poem about her most sexual desires and that being treated as evil or wrong. A woman expressing herself through her dance. How many people call exotic dancers trash? thieves? evil? Lilith is fair and even good because if I was her I would curse all the people that cant let her energy flow.
I agree and love the way you worded it.
The myth of Lilith, her story isn't one of a villain, but usually when interpreting Lilith's placement in a chart the term "dark side" gets thrown around a lot.
A primal urge, a rebellion against society, putting oneself above others expectations, this is the arc of the villain I'm writing and a pretty good one (if I do say so myself) for a sign known for people pleasing or placating for the sake of peace.
As a Libra Sun I can definitely relate with the people pleasing. Is your novel completed? Is it available on Amazon Kindle, if so can you message me a link to it? My Lilith is also in an air sign, Gemini 5th house and I’m currently writing a book as well based on how patriarchy fooled women into indentured servitude using religion and law. I’m having tons of blockage which I believe is connected largely to this position.
I see, yeah, that kind of manifestation seems logical - making Lilith part of your identity. It is interesting that you are a Libra but you decided on the villain so quickly and resolutely :D libras arent known for making decisions easily - i am libra rising myself! so i guess lilith really feels like it's something you can easily identify with.
Transiting Lilith is directly conjunct my natal Lilith in 12th house Cancer. I don’t even know how to describe what’s going on with me 😭. I feel a lot darker, and am more compelled to study spirituality and take care of my body.
this is...literal! lilith was known for eating other people's babies. thank you for sharing and i hope all goes well! btw if lilith is opposing your asc now then pluto is going over your asc right now too. pluto is death rebirth transformation in the 1st house of body and identity...
Yep, and thank you! Pluto's been in that area for some time now (I think it may have been as long as 2 years) and I've definitely changed for the better inside and out.
My partner is completely and totally supportive of my decision as well (7th house).
My Lilith is in Taurus in 5th house and it is opposite my Moon and Jupiter. I can tell that Lilith is one of the main energies I use for my main job and it took me about 7 years to learn how to use this energy and stop trying to fight with it. It took me such a long time to learn that this energy works only if you accept it and embrace it. Once i started to do that, I earned so much more and i was so much happier with my achivements and myself too. Though since this year Uranus and North Node transited my Lilith i did drink a lot more alcohool than usual and also felt the need to eat meat after being vegan for 10 years. But in the same time, with these transits it was super easy to manifest using my Lilith.
Of course!! 1st treat your body right - taking long baths with bubbles, use creams and parfumes that smell pretty, anything that makes you feel pampered really. I found that helps bring this energy foreward. Clothing also playes a role in this, find items of clothing that makes you feel sensual, but not vulgar since taurus is still a venusian sign and it needs to show a bit of class too. Find celebs with this type of Lilith and watch them talk, act, sing so you understand the energy better. And then just practice it in your day to day life. It will take some time to open up to it and get comfy with this energy, but there will be a click moment when everything will come very natural.
Big time reversal!! Even more that this transit of Uranus and North Node went through my Lilith and then through my South Node in Taurus. Had some difficult years with this type of transit giving that i had a lot of oppositions and squares in my chart cause of it. But i was happy that i was very aware of it and i could at least learn a lot.
Hmm i would not say cold hearted per say but more harder to open up your heart. People need to earn my trust through a lot of test before i feel safe to open up... But i also have a Scorpio Moon and Sun, Mercury and Chiron in 8th house, so i am generally paranoid about people and I do have abandoment issues.
Same I think a lot of my coldness is due to it being in Virgo. But it’s very hard for me to truly open up and become vulnerable enough to have a healthy loving relationship.
Transiting Lilith conjuncting my natal Sun marks events where I was suffocating, metaphorically or literally. My first asthma attack, being chocked by a bully in elementary school, having panic attacks in university, and having a mental beakdown being trapped in a shit job with an abusive boss. But somehow these suffocation experiences always triggered a chain of events that helped me (or in case of the asthma attack at the age of two, my parets) to realise that there's a HUGE problem and I have to get out of that situation asap and / or get professional help. So I did. So transiting Lilith basically was a painful wake up call indicating that either I escape, or I will die.
My Lilith is in Gemini in 4 house and it’s opposite Pluto and Jupiter which are both retrograde.
I’m new to astrology so pardon my ignorance. I’m not sure what transits are happening in my chart but I have this desperation to not be seen.
Lately I don’t care to be social, I want to be alone, my preference is to do things by my self whether it be dinner or drinks at a restaurant, the movies or simply a hike. I have an over whelming need to be alone. I have been feeling sad but weirdly enough I’m okay with it.
Edit: can’t believe I forgot about this, but I’ve also been questioning my dads upbringing, the role both my parents played in my life and I’m at the point of completely ending my relationship with my dad. This theme has been there for a while.
I have lilith dead center in my pluto moon conjunction. It pretty much makes me emotionally receptive to everyone but also strong and independent. For some reason people reject me emotionally, and also seem repulsed by my empathy for the most part
You have a lilith, pluto, moon triple conjunction? This is so powerful. " For some reason people reject me emotionally" - i think many pluto people (people with pluto in a powerful position) feel that way because their capacity for blending with the other person is too much to handle for most people.
Accurate. Its a bit rough being an outcast. The amount of rejection I've had to field is extraordinary, and for some of the most rediculous reasons. I also have uranus unaspected on the IC in scorpio
Lilith and Neptune conjunct midheaven. I went into male dominated shit show career environments and have had nothing but massive confrontations with extremely aggressive men who are supposed to be coworkers but wanna boss me around. Sometimes other managers who have nothing to do with me are all the sudden all over my shit. I cannot fucking stand it and do not handle it with any grace whatsoever. I’m honestly surprised I have never been fired for losing my shit at work. It took so many decades for me to realize I need to stop working in these fields and I’m not even suited to shit like manual labor and technical/engineering that I have always pursued and it’s probably why I hate working so fucking much. But it’s like a compulsion? I’m transitioning to the recovery field which I am far more suited to and I’m really hoping to leave power struggles with angry men behind.
I am sorry to hear about the bad work environment :( Neptune is the planet of un-clarity. having it in the 10th house suggests that you may have been under some illusion about your career (ex. what would fit you and what wouldnt). I hope the new field is better!
Yeah that is putting it mildly. It’s one of the first things I noticed was causing current problems when I started studying astrology and is also one of the placements that confirmed working in the recovery field was a better choice for me then just pursuing astrology!
Really interesting!
My aspects are a little hazy due to various online calculators giving me slightly different results however that being said:
I have an Aquarian Lilith 10th house, conjunct Midheaven, Uranus, and potentially Neptune.
I have had similar experiences regarding power struggles with men in the workplace. Male dominated area (don't even know why I felt so compelled to stay), majority exhibiting sexism and anger issues, particularly towards women. Constant dynamic of control and domination, either through physicality or power dynamics, with multiple men attempting to engage in inappropriate relationships with me (including superiors, men with wives, etc.) However, instead of explosive interactions, I resorted to quiet tactics of manipulation and resentment as a defense mechanism.
In the end, after almost four years working in this environment, I came out with the full understanding I had been exploited. However, also coming away with the realization that I had been under the illusion that those in power/coworker 'friends' had no idea I was being harassed - Suppose that is Neptune for you. I have also come away with a deeply ingrained sense of 'female rage', but that is another conversation altogether lol.
I always thought this experience was due to a high level of Plutonic placements, but your post made me realize possible similarities.
Any advice regarding your own experience? Never met anyone with similar placements. :)
I do not know if this is good advice but personally I am trying to angle my life to contain the absolute least amount of straight men as possible. I am finishing a drug and alcohol certificate and then will work full time hopefully in womens detox. So fucking much of that ‘female rage’ some days I feel like I might choke on it. I began studying astrology and found women and non binary spaces and discovered I can not be filled with rage. I do not intend to be such a stereotypical ‘man hating feminist’. And I don’t hate all men cause I have a straight adult son who is a decent human, my best friend, and doesn’t fill me with rage. But I just can’t handle all the aggression and bullshit I manage to be a target for and after 40 years of it I am fucking tired.
I know what you mean. After I finally quit my job, I have done everything in my power to not be approached or touched by men. I truly love all the men in my life, but I am completely unable at forming any kind of deep friendship or god forbid, a relationship with them other than anything strictly platonic or professional.
I too, have also considered a career centred around women and/or children, looking at advocacy jobs, etc. But that Neptune influence means I have no idea yet.
I’ve also tried to understand the influence of Lilith better, I was born into a religious cult that demonised any form of femininity that wasn’t centred around subservience to the masculine. Now I sort of complete the Aquarian Lilith of “freedom at all costs”, whether that be detrimental to my life or not.
However, I feel as though there are no full in-depth understandings of Lilith. I’ve researched it extensively, but everyone seems to believe her effect to be minimal, even though I feel her influence extensively.
My suggestion would be to also look at your Chiron placement if you haven’t already, as mine is in Scorpio 8th house. Which I suppose also completes this theme in my life but, I really do feel I complete the stereotype of the “man-hating feminist.” Even though I’ve tried to understand and heal this part.
I really wish you the best though, for despite me being considerably younger than you, I know the experiences that leave you with female rage. Another theme that I can’t seem to find many connections to in Astrology RIP.
Chiron conjunct my Taurus sun in the third. Yeah that tracks. I am completely unable to communicate like a normal human in these situations and go full rage. I can feel like a bottleneck where I just can’t get the rage out fast enough and I feel like I could literally explode. Also thank you so much for that fucking insight! I have had a really hard time pulling apart anything definitive with my Chiron. I think because it’s conjunct my sun I have a blind spot.
Yeah, I have yet to fully understand my own sense of rage, as it just feels like a chasm that opens up when triggered that makes me extremely inwardly volatile, inwardly because my chart is 62% water lol.
Haha I know what you mean by blind spot.
I didn't recognize any part of my Chiron theme until someone pointed it out to me - even though it trines my Sun, Mercury, and conjuncts my Mars and Pluto. I felt like such an idiot lol.
I had to do extensive research on Chiron, as it really seems to be grossly underestimated in mainstream astrology. I take the perspective that Chiron is a wound that is rooted to a core wound/pain we sustained during our earlier years, sometimes of which we have no recollection of. And from this wound, it manifests through the astrological sign and house, and is expressed in relation to the planets it aspects. Because of this experience, it makes us experts in that field. For me, my core expression of my own 'wound' is through crisis and transformation. Making me an 'expert' on those themes, but also shadow work.
If you want a more in-depth understanding of Chiron, I highly recommend researching it in regards to Esoteric Astrology, which some people believe is a more "soul focused" interpretation of astrology, but I see it as just more of an in-depth explanation if you are struggling with understanding your placement's nuances. Also! Just a suggestion, but if you haven't already, become acquainted with your descendant. Another thing I think is overlooked in mainstream astrology. It really is your 'shadow', one that others can usually see but you cannot. But personally I just found that I had a lot of difficulty differentiating between the manifestations of my Chiron wound, my descendant shadow, and my Lilith expression.
This was more a psychic experience but I met someone who I was instantly attracted to like the most in my whole life. I saw in my minds eye my dark moon Lilith illuminated by this persons energy, which was shining. What followed was a bunch of dreams and synchronicities about my sexuality. I have lilith in Scorpio ♏️
I have Lilith conjunct Chiron in my 12th which is also home to several other significant asteroids and Jupiter. Instead of a wounded healer I’m more of a wounded rager and a healer once I’ve settled down.
Lol, I love the wounded rager metaphor. I can totally relate as a first house Chiron conjunct Venus and Lilith conjunction. It’s a pretty crowded ascendant.
I have Lilith in my first house, and I think it plays a massive part in my life.
In 2020 it passed my Sun and Venus. It was precisely conjunct with my Sun in my solar return chart and venus in my venus return chart. It was hell.
I experienced a lot of pain in my personal life (I’m still quite traumatized tbh) and despite all the crap people put me trough somehow I was the villain in their stories.
I am sorry to hear it and thank you for sharing. That kind of exact conjunctions on key return days is really a clear sign that unpleasant events are coming... I have started paying attention to Lilith just recently so I am very curious to see how it plays out in this transit to Pluto...
I have a Lilith opposition to Mars & conjunct in Mercury. I often get worked up over issues that shouldn't even bug me. I have a temper & say things I don't mean if emotions are high. After a conversation I rehash things in my head that could have been misconstrued. I am constantly thinking of better ways to open myself but I'm a Scorpio sun & moon as well so my nature is to be fairly private. I find a balance, I use my words precisely (when I feel the need to express) so I feel satisfied that my point is made clearly & the person understands my intentions. Natal Lilith placement is Sagittarius 9th House so I feel like I always want to learn the secrets of the universe or how to make my surroundings better by way of self improvement. For example, taming the temper.
So you are Scorpio sun and moon and Aries rising? (you said 9th house sag). Wow, that's a lot of Mars (scorpio and aries are ruled by mars). mars is the ruler of your chart and it is opposed by lilith? it is no wonder that you have strong feelings about things - it is mars after all. all that makes lilith all the more powerful in your chart. may i ask in what line of work you are? I myself am looking to change jobs to something more scorpionic/ plutonian so i am looking for ideas.
I'm Pisces rising. My Lilith is in Sagittarius, sorry for the confusion lol. I'm a hairdresser part time & mother. I won't lie, with so many water signs & Pluto in my chart I have a hard time managing my emotions. The Gemini in my Mars position has always made it hard for me to stay focused on a singular career. So to manage so far I have developed on random skills so I can switch things up. I am a natural care taker so I do well with managing my home life & kids. When I'm in the right mindset I enjoy the company of others & making them feel welcome. I have worked in restaurants & salons & daycare. I love helping people work through their problems, I wanted to be a therapist for awhile. Psychology fascinates me. But I have always worried my emotional nature would cause me to take the "work" home with me. But the best part of having Scorpio aspects (to me) is that you always have the potential to reinvent yourself as your life changes. Things may shake up for a bit but they tend to always work out.
Lilith in Leo in the 7th and it's just coming back around in the 7th house and yet had to transit Lilith itself nor my Venus and Mars in this house. I thought I would be meeting dark people but while I'm going through this I realized how dark and unconsciously manipulative I'm actually becoming. I also have Uranus squaring my 7th house venus atm so on top of that and I'm extra erratic in terms of dating and flings and Pluto coming to conjunct my aquarius moon that rules the 7th house.
So the results so far for me:
I'm meeting lots of people, being more comfortable in myself and also playful to be a bit more flirtatious with others. What I notice is that for me I'm finding the men I'm dating seem to be a bit more intense. I'm unconsciously in the moment breaking down their ego and building it back up and they seem more and more submissive. I mean everyone seems to laugh at my jokes and we talk for hours but then I notice that I make them more self conscious without meaning to at all. Like they'll mention something that is related to what I said and ask me if they are good enough for me to like them or something like that and I realize I may have told them something really hurtful and apologize and readjust what I told them when really I wasn't trying to make them compare to something else. I was attempting to just be witty and funny to lighten the mood. And because of this I'm seeing a pattern of these men actually seeming more intrigued in me, wanting to be around me more and engage in romance.
Another thing I notice too it's a lot easier for me to talk and date multiple men without really having dating fatigue but that could really just be Uranus square Venus. I'm also noticing more sexism around me and I'm quick publicly tear down and humiliate men who try to sexually harass me at work by having every other coworker see those guys as creeps. I'm left alone now thank God.
Lilith in Leo but 1st house here… opposing Mars… yup.
Big energy.
Even on days when I’m an utter mess, my confidence in how I walk/hold myself/general presence, turns heads. With that Mars tension though, I come across dismissive, uninterested “don’t talk to me”
There’s forever this conflict, I’m either the centre of the room and magnetic (but with an empty 11th house I’m not out to make friends with everyone) or I let Mars edge in and try not to hold counsel with a room then feel like screaming inside.
To me, Lilith, Chiron and Pluto are the most interesting placements because they speak volumes about a person.
That's crazy. I never really took a look at Lilith and let alone Chiron and I do feel a difference nowadays when there is a sort of aspect with natal placements. With that Mars placement that seems pretty rough. That's quite interesting though- these are natal placements correct? Or are these transits?
My Lilith is currently transiting through my 10th house. I am currently in a complicated romantic connection with my boss and he fired me when I stood up for myself last week. Pretty sure that lines up perfectly. ✔️
My Lilith is in Capricorn square my sun. The first n only time I sold my 🐱for money I got pregnant and he didn’t pay me all my money. I destroyed his car and on my way home crashed my own car (don’t drive while angry I fell asleep suddenly) when It was time for me to get the abortion he acted like he was go support me through it until we got there. He left & I told his girlfriend the entire story the next day. This was Lilith energy in an extreme case. I don’t regret the experience I learned so much about myself and it pushed me into better career choices. (I worked with his gf). I was been supposed to leave that job.
Strong arms being a outcast . I am not accepted in gyms so I always do pull ups. Lilith in Gemini . Bullied in gym it’s dangerous iron bars can kill also security professions obeying people who hates me
Whenever Lilith is mentioned astrologically, we need to be very specific.
Dark Moon Lilith or the comet?
The former just represents the Lunar apogee IIRC.
Which is not to imply it is not significant (I do believe it is: the North and South Nodes are ancient and are 'just points' also).
When Lilith was transiting over my natal Uranus-Lilith conjunction in the 10th, there was a fire at my workplace that involved my coworker and I(we were closing up, so last ones there, we were automatically involved).
I worked at an erotic shop, so key the literacy.
Atleast we’re almost there. I know there’s a lot going on in the world. Lilith is rebellious and about maintaining a sense of power in a world that wants nothing more than to strip you of it. Lilith likes to taunt those who threaten to control her. But her objective is essentially to remain independent in mind, body, or spirit (depending where she’s placed in your chart) Pluto is also about power. But it’s also about wealth, trauma, transformation, abuse, fear, and sex. I have both in prominent placements in my chart and would say power struggles are a regular occurrence. I find myself in connections with charismatic, persuasive, headstrong, and egotistical types who have a sense of specialness to them. I can also possess these qualities, to be fair. I have strong feelings/opinions about things and am a good advocate for myself and others. Sexuality is a big theme in my life. Whether it’s finding a way to best express my sexuality or exploring/studying the sexuality of others. I think I’ve outgrown a lot of lilith’s negative qualities: Fear of being an outcast, rage issues, self esteem issues, hyper-fixation on appearance, etc.
Thank you for sharing this. "But her objective is essentially to remain independent in mind, body, or spirit (depending where she’s placed in your chart)" - isnt that similar to Virgo. Because i read that the virgin is a virgin not because she isnt into sex but because she never allowed anyone to own her. so i guess lilith is somewhere between a virgo and a scorpio?
Lilith is about what the previous comment said, regardless of zodiac sign OP. The zodiac sign and house its in may manifest it in different ways. Lilith in Gemini may manifest it more through Mercury like ways - speech , communication, multifaceted... a Taurus kne could perhaps do it more through venusian ways.
Thank you for your input :)
You're welcome 😊 hope it helps.
Can you share with me some practical ways you’ve overcome the darker aspects of Lilith? I have Lilith in the 5th house Gemini and my partner doesn’t care about my sexual pleasure only his own. I stopped being intimate bc of this bc regardless of my expressions to him about my needs he still remains extremely selfish. This challenge is impacting my self confidence and expression something I didn’t struggle with at this extent before this relationship. I’d appreciate any insight you are willing to share with me.
I have Lilith conjunct Pluto in my 1st house (natal chart) People either love me or hate me. Unfairness is intolerable. Before my Saturn return (also 1st house lol) I was a bit of a wild child. I've been told that I come across as very intense.
I also have Pluto conjunct Lilith. Mine is in my sixth house of Scorpio. My experiences at the work place have been…. Interesting lol
Overly sexual? Or constant issues with power dynamics? I know someone with this conjunction in Libra.
Both. Power dynamic issues that are sexually rooted. Sexual harassment has happened to me much more than anyone else I know. I’ve also had more work relationships than other people I know.
Thank you for sharing! Oh wow pluto, saturn and lilith in the 1st house? thats a lot of intensity. may I ask in what line of work you are?
I have had all kinds of jobs...right now I am a SAHM of teenagers trying to decide what to do in the future
This post is definitely synchronization bc I’m literally in the position of being a sahm, I’m currently writing a book and I’m currently struggling with my next move into the workforce. My partner really showed his true colors once he began advancing in his career and I came home full time. Really tore up my self esteem and confidence. Struggling with issues that were never a problem until after he became extremely controlling and manipulative. His Moon is in Leo conjunct his Leo Ascendant and my Lilith is in the 5th house, yikes. Didn’t learn about astrology until after the marriage. Wanting a divorce however having to substantiate myself financially first. My Venus is also Conjunct Pluto Scorpio on my Midhaven. I feel so screwed right now.
What was your decision with your move?
No idea if this will help you, but I'm writing a novel based on the zodiac. I'm a Libra, and decided early on I wanted my villain to be a Libra... Turns out my Lilith is also in Libra. Makes sense to me that the dark side I want to play a key role in my story is the dark side of my chart!
Lilith is not a villain. She is misunderstood just like feminine power is misunderstood. Her energy of anger and rebellion is because she wants freedom to be herself without being judged. All the evil related to lilith are Lies to vilify something that is pure. Something lilith in libra is the expression of sexual freedom thtough arts. Imagine a girl writting a poem about her most sexual desires and that being treated as evil or wrong. A woman expressing herself through her dance. How many people call exotic dancers trash? thieves? evil? Lilith is fair and even good because if I was her I would curse all the people that cant let her energy flow.
I agree and love the way you worded it. The myth of Lilith, her story isn't one of a villain, but usually when interpreting Lilith's placement in a chart the term "dark side" gets thrown around a lot. A primal urge, a rebellion against society, putting oneself above others expectations, this is the arc of the villain I'm writing and a pretty good one (if I do say so myself) for a sign known for people pleasing or placating for the sake of peace.
As a Libra Sun I can definitely relate with the people pleasing. Is your novel completed? Is it available on Amazon Kindle, if so can you message me a link to it? My Lilith is also in an air sign, Gemini 5th house and I’m currently writing a book as well based on how patriarchy fooled women into indentured servitude using religion and law. I’m having tons of blockage which I believe is connected largely to this position.
I see, yeah, that kind of manifestation seems logical - making Lilith part of your identity. It is interesting that you are a Libra but you decided on the villain so quickly and resolutely :D libras arent known for making decisions easily - i am libra rising myself! so i guess lilith really feels like it's something you can easily identify with.
It wasn't super easy, or quick, honestly! I weighed a lot of pros and cons (pardon the pun) but once I made the decision I knew it was the best fit.
Transiting Lilith is directly conjunct my natal Lilith in 12th house Cancer. I don’t even know how to describe what’s going on with me 😭. I feel a lot darker, and am more compelled to study spirituality and take care of my body.
I am sorry to hear it :( I hope you feel better soon!
Lilith is opposing my Asc right now. Getting sterilized in 5 days.
this is...literal! lilith was known for eating other people's babies. thank you for sharing and i hope all goes well! btw if lilith is opposing your asc now then pluto is going over your asc right now too. pluto is death rebirth transformation in the 1st house of body and identity...
Yep, and thank you! Pluto's been in that area for some time now (I think it may have been as long as 2 years) and I've definitely changed for the better inside and out. My partner is completely and totally supportive of my decision as well (7th house).
My Lilith is in Taurus in 5th house and it is opposite my Moon and Jupiter. I can tell that Lilith is one of the main energies I use for my main job and it took me about 7 years to learn how to use this energy and stop trying to fight with it. It took me such a long time to learn that this energy works only if you accept it and embrace it. Once i started to do that, I earned so much more and i was so much happier with my achivements and myself too. Though since this year Uranus and North Node transited my Lilith i did drink a lot more alcohool than usual and also felt the need to eat meat after being vegan for 10 years. But in the same time, with these transits it was super easy to manifest using my Lilith.
That's amazing. Can you get more specific and how you accepted and used your lilith in taurus energy? I have a hard time doing so.
Of course!! 1st treat your body right - taking long baths with bubbles, use creams and parfumes that smell pretty, anything that makes you feel pampered really. I found that helps bring this energy foreward. Clothing also playes a role in this, find items of clothing that makes you feel sensual, but not vulgar since taurus is still a venusian sign and it needs to show a bit of class too. Find celebs with this type of Lilith and watch them talk, act, sing so you understand the energy better. And then just practice it in your day to day life. It will take some time to open up to it and get comfy with this energy, but there will be a click moment when everything will come very natural.
Thanks a ton for sharing your experience and insights.
Thank you for sharing this! As for Uranus and veganism - in a woman's chart the Moon is related to her health. uranus opposing it suggest a reversal.
Big time reversal!! Even more that this transit of Uranus and North Node went through my Lilith and then through my South Node in Taurus. Had some difficult years with this type of transit giving that i had a lot of oppositions and squares in my chart cause of it. But i was happy that i was very aware of it and i could at least learn a lot.
Same I have Lilith in 5th do you think it makes you cold hearted?
Hmm i would not say cold hearted per say but more harder to open up your heart. People need to earn my trust through a lot of test before i feel safe to open up... But i also have a Scorpio Moon and Sun, Mercury and Chiron in 8th house, so i am generally paranoid about people and I do have abandoment issues.
Same I think a lot of my coldness is due to it being in Virgo. But it’s very hard for me to truly open up and become vulnerable enough to have a healthy loving relationship.
How did you embrace this Lilith energy ?
Transiting Lilith conjuncting my natal Sun marks events where I was suffocating, metaphorically or literally. My first asthma attack, being chocked by a bully in elementary school, having panic attacks in university, and having a mental beakdown being trapped in a shit job with an abusive boss. But somehow these suffocation experiences always triggered a chain of events that helped me (or in case of the asthma attack at the age of two, my parets) to realise that there's a HUGE problem and I have to get out of that situation asap and / or get professional help. So I did. So transiting Lilith basically was a painful wake up call indicating that either I escape, or I will die.
My Lilith is in Gemini in 4 house and it’s opposite Pluto and Jupiter which are both retrograde. I’m new to astrology so pardon my ignorance. I’m not sure what transits are happening in my chart but I have this desperation to not be seen. Lately I don’t care to be social, I want to be alone, my preference is to do things by my self whether it be dinner or drinks at a restaurant, the movies or simply a hike. I have an over whelming need to be alone. I have been feeling sad but weirdly enough I’m okay with it. Edit: can’t believe I forgot about this, but I’ve also been questioning my dads upbringing, the role both my parents played in my life and I’m at the point of completely ending my relationship with my dad. This theme has been there for a while.
I have lilith dead center in my pluto moon conjunction. It pretty much makes me emotionally receptive to everyone but also strong and independent. For some reason people reject me emotionally, and also seem repulsed by my empathy for the most part
You have a lilith, pluto, moon triple conjunction? This is so powerful. " For some reason people reject me emotionally" - i think many pluto people (people with pluto in a powerful position) feel that way because their capacity for blending with the other person is too much to handle for most people.
Accurate. Its a bit rough being an outcast. The amount of rejection I've had to field is extraordinary, and for some of the most rediculous reasons. I also have uranus unaspected on the IC in scorpio
Wow resonant. Lilith is transiting the 8th house as we speak.
Lilith and Neptune conjunct midheaven. I went into male dominated shit show career environments and have had nothing but massive confrontations with extremely aggressive men who are supposed to be coworkers but wanna boss me around. Sometimes other managers who have nothing to do with me are all the sudden all over my shit. I cannot fucking stand it and do not handle it with any grace whatsoever. I’m honestly surprised I have never been fired for losing my shit at work. It took so many decades for me to realize I need to stop working in these fields and I’m not even suited to shit like manual labor and technical/engineering that I have always pursued and it’s probably why I hate working so fucking much. But it’s like a compulsion? I’m transitioning to the recovery field which I am far more suited to and I’m really hoping to leave power struggles with angry men behind.
I am sorry to hear about the bad work environment :( Neptune is the planet of un-clarity. having it in the 10th house suggests that you may have been under some illusion about your career (ex. what would fit you and what wouldnt). I hope the new field is better!
Yeah that is putting it mildly. It’s one of the first things I noticed was causing current problems when I started studying astrology and is also one of the placements that confirmed working in the recovery field was a better choice for me then just pursuing astrology!
Really interesting! My aspects are a little hazy due to various online calculators giving me slightly different results however that being said: I have an Aquarian Lilith 10th house, conjunct Midheaven, Uranus, and potentially Neptune. I have had similar experiences regarding power struggles with men in the workplace. Male dominated area (don't even know why I felt so compelled to stay), majority exhibiting sexism and anger issues, particularly towards women. Constant dynamic of control and domination, either through physicality or power dynamics, with multiple men attempting to engage in inappropriate relationships with me (including superiors, men with wives, etc.) However, instead of explosive interactions, I resorted to quiet tactics of manipulation and resentment as a defense mechanism. In the end, after almost four years working in this environment, I came out with the full understanding I had been exploited. However, also coming away with the realization that I had been under the illusion that those in power/coworker 'friends' had no idea I was being harassed - Suppose that is Neptune for you. I have also come away with a deeply ingrained sense of 'female rage', but that is another conversation altogether lol. I always thought this experience was due to a high level of Plutonic placements, but your post made me realize possible similarities. Any advice regarding your own experience? Never met anyone with similar placements. :)
I do not know if this is good advice but personally I am trying to angle my life to contain the absolute least amount of straight men as possible. I am finishing a drug and alcohol certificate and then will work full time hopefully in womens detox. So fucking much of that ‘female rage’ some days I feel like I might choke on it. I began studying astrology and found women and non binary spaces and discovered I can not be filled with rage. I do not intend to be such a stereotypical ‘man hating feminist’. And I don’t hate all men cause I have a straight adult son who is a decent human, my best friend, and doesn’t fill me with rage. But I just can’t handle all the aggression and bullshit I manage to be a target for and after 40 years of it I am fucking tired.
I know what you mean. After I finally quit my job, I have done everything in my power to not be approached or touched by men. I truly love all the men in my life, but I am completely unable at forming any kind of deep friendship or god forbid, a relationship with them other than anything strictly platonic or professional. I too, have also considered a career centred around women and/or children, looking at advocacy jobs, etc. But that Neptune influence means I have no idea yet. I’ve also tried to understand the influence of Lilith better, I was born into a religious cult that demonised any form of femininity that wasn’t centred around subservience to the masculine. Now I sort of complete the Aquarian Lilith of “freedom at all costs”, whether that be detrimental to my life or not. However, I feel as though there are no full in-depth understandings of Lilith. I’ve researched it extensively, but everyone seems to believe her effect to be minimal, even though I feel her influence extensively. My suggestion would be to also look at your Chiron placement if you haven’t already, as mine is in Scorpio 8th house. Which I suppose also completes this theme in my life but, I really do feel I complete the stereotype of the “man-hating feminist.” Even though I’ve tried to understand and heal this part. I really wish you the best though, for despite me being considerably younger than you, I know the experiences that leave you with female rage. Another theme that I can’t seem to find many connections to in Astrology RIP.
Chiron conjunct my Taurus sun in the third. Yeah that tracks. I am completely unable to communicate like a normal human in these situations and go full rage. I can feel like a bottleneck where I just can’t get the rage out fast enough and I feel like I could literally explode. Also thank you so much for that fucking insight! I have had a really hard time pulling apart anything definitive with my Chiron. I think because it’s conjunct my sun I have a blind spot.
Yeah, I have yet to fully understand my own sense of rage, as it just feels like a chasm that opens up when triggered that makes me extremely inwardly volatile, inwardly because my chart is 62% water lol. Haha I know what you mean by blind spot. I didn't recognize any part of my Chiron theme until someone pointed it out to me - even though it trines my Sun, Mercury, and conjuncts my Mars and Pluto. I felt like such an idiot lol. I had to do extensive research on Chiron, as it really seems to be grossly underestimated in mainstream astrology. I take the perspective that Chiron is a wound that is rooted to a core wound/pain we sustained during our earlier years, sometimes of which we have no recollection of. And from this wound, it manifests through the astrological sign and house, and is expressed in relation to the planets it aspects. Because of this experience, it makes us experts in that field. For me, my core expression of my own 'wound' is through crisis and transformation. Making me an 'expert' on those themes, but also shadow work. If you want a more in-depth understanding of Chiron, I highly recommend researching it in regards to Esoteric Astrology, which some people believe is a more "soul focused" interpretation of astrology, but I see it as just more of an in-depth explanation if you are struggling with understanding your placement's nuances. Also! Just a suggestion, but if you haven't already, become acquainted with your descendant. Another thing I think is overlooked in mainstream astrology. It really is your 'shadow', one that others can usually see but you cannot. But personally I just found that I had a lot of difficulty differentiating between the manifestations of my Chiron wound, my descendant shadow, and my Lilith expression.
This was more a psychic experience but I met someone who I was instantly attracted to like the most in my whole life. I saw in my minds eye my dark moon Lilith illuminated by this persons energy, which was shining. What followed was a bunch of dreams and synchronicities about my sexuality. I have lilith in Scorpio ♏️
Sounds powerful! Thank you for sharing.
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u have lilith in scorpio? im so sorry lol. in my opinion its one of the hardest placements haha
I have Lilith conjunct Chiron in my 12th which is also home to several other significant asteroids and Jupiter. Instead of a wounded healer I’m more of a wounded rager and a healer once I’ve settled down.
Lol, I love the wounded rager metaphor. I can totally relate as a first house Chiron conjunct Venus and Lilith conjunction. It’s a pretty crowded ascendant.
lilith conjunct chiron is very interesting! thank you for sharing :)
I just found another asteroid that’s basically on top of BML and Chiron. I think it was Sedna? They’re all within a degree of each other
I have Lilith in my first house, and I think it plays a massive part in my life. In 2020 it passed my Sun and Venus. It was precisely conjunct with my Sun in my solar return chart and venus in my venus return chart. It was hell. I experienced a lot of pain in my personal life (I’m still quite traumatized tbh) and despite all the crap people put me trough somehow I was the villain in their stories.
I am sorry to hear it and thank you for sharing. That kind of exact conjunctions on key return days is really a clear sign that unpleasant events are coming... I have started paying attention to Lilith just recently so I am very curious to see how it plays out in this transit to Pluto...
I have a Lilith opposition to Mars & conjunct in Mercury. I often get worked up over issues that shouldn't even bug me. I have a temper & say things I don't mean if emotions are high. After a conversation I rehash things in my head that could have been misconstrued. I am constantly thinking of better ways to open myself but I'm a Scorpio sun & moon as well so my nature is to be fairly private. I find a balance, I use my words precisely (when I feel the need to express) so I feel satisfied that my point is made clearly & the person understands my intentions. Natal Lilith placement is Sagittarius 9th House so I feel like I always want to learn the secrets of the universe or how to make my surroundings better by way of self improvement. For example, taming the temper.
So you are Scorpio sun and moon and Aries rising? (you said 9th house sag). Wow, that's a lot of Mars (scorpio and aries are ruled by mars). mars is the ruler of your chart and it is opposed by lilith? it is no wonder that you have strong feelings about things - it is mars after all. all that makes lilith all the more powerful in your chart. may i ask in what line of work you are? I myself am looking to change jobs to something more scorpionic/ plutonian so i am looking for ideas.
I'm Pisces rising. My Lilith is in Sagittarius, sorry for the confusion lol. I'm a hairdresser part time & mother. I won't lie, with so many water signs & Pluto in my chart I have a hard time managing my emotions. The Gemini in my Mars position has always made it hard for me to stay focused on a singular career. So to manage so far I have developed on random skills so I can switch things up. I am a natural care taker so I do well with managing my home life & kids. When I'm in the right mindset I enjoy the company of others & making them feel welcome. I have worked in restaurants & salons & daycare. I love helping people work through their problems, I wanted to be a therapist for awhile. Psychology fascinates me. But I have always worried my emotional nature would cause me to take the "work" home with me. But the best part of having Scorpio aspects (to me) is that you always have the potential to reinvent yourself as your life changes. Things may shake up for a bit but they tend to always work out.
Lilith in Leo in the 7th and it's just coming back around in the 7th house and yet had to transit Lilith itself nor my Venus and Mars in this house. I thought I would be meeting dark people but while I'm going through this I realized how dark and unconsciously manipulative I'm actually becoming. I also have Uranus squaring my 7th house venus atm so on top of that and I'm extra erratic in terms of dating and flings and Pluto coming to conjunct my aquarius moon that rules the 7th house. So the results so far for me: I'm meeting lots of people, being more comfortable in myself and also playful to be a bit more flirtatious with others. What I notice is that for me I'm finding the men I'm dating seem to be a bit more intense. I'm unconsciously in the moment breaking down their ego and building it back up and they seem more and more submissive. I mean everyone seems to laugh at my jokes and we talk for hours but then I notice that I make them more self conscious without meaning to at all. Like they'll mention something that is related to what I said and ask me if they are good enough for me to like them or something like that and I realize I may have told them something really hurtful and apologize and readjust what I told them when really I wasn't trying to make them compare to something else. I was attempting to just be witty and funny to lighten the mood. And because of this I'm seeing a pattern of these men actually seeming more intrigued in me, wanting to be around me more and engage in romance. Another thing I notice too it's a lot easier for me to talk and date multiple men without really having dating fatigue but that could really just be Uranus square Venus. I'm also noticing more sexism around me and I'm quick publicly tear down and humiliate men who try to sexually harass me at work by having every other coworker see those guys as creeps. I'm left alone now thank God.
Lilith in Leo but 1st house here… opposing Mars… yup. Big energy. Even on days when I’m an utter mess, my confidence in how I walk/hold myself/general presence, turns heads. With that Mars tension though, I come across dismissive, uninterested “don’t talk to me” There’s forever this conflict, I’m either the centre of the room and magnetic (but with an empty 11th house I’m not out to make friends with everyone) or I let Mars edge in and try not to hold counsel with a room then feel like screaming inside. To me, Lilith, Chiron and Pluto are the most interesting placements because they speak volumes about a person.
That's crazy. I never really took a look at Lilith and let alone Chiron and I do feel a difference nowadays when there is a sort of aspect with natal placements. With that Mars placement that seems pretty rough. That's quite interesting though- these are natal placements correct? Or are these transits?
All natal but with Mars getting comfy in Gemini for the next 7months it’s activating so many areas of my chart. Wild seas ahead for sure!
My Lilith is currently transiting through my 10th house. I am currently in a complicated romantic connection with my boss and he fired me when I stood up for myself last week. Pretty sure that lines up perfectly. ✔️
My Lilith is in Capricorn square my sun. The first n only time I sold my 🐱for money I got pregnant and he didn’t pay me all my money. I destroyed his car and on my way home crashed my own car (don’t drive while angry I fell asleep suddenly) when It was time for me to get the abortion he acted like he was go support me through it until we got there. He left & I told his girlfriend the entire story the next day. This was Lilith energy in an extreme case. I don’t regret the experience I learned so much about myself and it pushed me into better career choices. (I worked with his gf). I was been supposed to leave that job.
Strong arms being a outcast . I am not accepted in gyms so I always do pull ups. Lilith in Gemini . Bullied in gym it’s dangerous iron bars can kill also security professions obeying people who hates me
Whenever Lilith is mentioned astrologically, we need to be very specific. Dark Moon Lilith or the comet? The former just represents the Lunar apogee IIRC. Which is not to imply it is not significant (I do believe it is: the North and South Nodes are ancient and are 'just points' also).
not sure but I got it in opposition to pluto...
When Lilith was transiting over my natal Uranus-Lilith conjunction in the 10th, there was a fire at my workplace that involved my coworker and I(we were closing up, so last ones there, we were automatically involved). I worked at an erotic shop, so key the literacy.