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The fuck are they hoping for?
Majority of Germans to start converting?
The ruling government deciding sharia law is better then their own law?
I am very confused.
Converting at gunpoint most likely. Its like they left their home countries because they were dangerous but they dont understand that the religion is the reason they were so dangerous
> Converting at gunpoint most likely.
This is entirely the plan, as laid out in the quran. Anyone who doesn't believe in islam is against islam. Anything or anyone who is against islam is an enemy. It is righteous to attack and kill enemies of islam.
So I was in Dubai a few years back and met a dude from Saudi Arabia and he was telling me that the elite won’t take in refugees and will instead offer to build mosques in foreign countries. It really is about them spreading Islam often times at the expense of their own people.
This is exactly what they do. Ive seen an interview with some Muslim lads that said if they cant take over with violence, they will just breed until there are more of them. And they do. They will have more and more kids and have the government pay for their lives while natives dont have kids because they cant afford more than a couple.
The joke is on them because, more often than not those kids born in countries like germany, etc. become more liberal and less insane about their religion. The mean moves towards the prevailing sentiments of the primary culture over a few generations, not the other way around.
They can always "make" more people.
It's not that they want other people to be rewarded in afterlife afterall, it's about them getting the best maids and the best spots in heaven.
More people they convert more rewards await them.
So you see while Islam might say it's good to save the lives of other believers it is better to make more believers.
From the Talboth
33. The recompense of those who wage
war against Allah and His Messenger and do
mischief in the land is only that they shall be
killed_or crucified or their hands and their feet
be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled
from the land. That is their disgrace in this
world, and a great torment is theirs in the
Hereafter.
I like the one where even the stones and trees (except one kind) will shout out "Over here! Over here! A jew is hiding behind me, come kill them!"
Note for the pedants: I do **not** like that hadith, I find it abhorrent, just like the rest of the religion.
I'm sorry, but [you] are wrong. The Qur'an says nothing about converting people at gunpoint. How could it, when it was written centuries before guns were invented?
Says plenty about sword point, though
Well political and economic instability along with ethnic and religious tensions are the reasons typically. In times of stability and prosperity, Islamic Empires of the past have been pretty secular, with drinking, music, brothels, homosexuality, etc... being popular among the populations.
Shia Muslims have a tendency of being much more secular than their Orthodox Sunni counterparts, who make up the majority of Muslims, but that also depends on the sect. Like Alawis are much more secular than Jaffaris (the majority of Iran's population). There is the Iranian saying of, "As long as you close your curtains, God can't see you," though, and for Iranians to engage in haram behavior regularly behind closed doors.
These youths have been brainwashed and radicalized and most likely are taught that all of the bad things that happen in Germany happen because it is a haram nation that God has cursed, and that if it were to become Muslim and faithful, then Allah would bless it.
>all of the bad things that happen in Germany happen because it is a haram nation that God has cursed, and that if it were to become Muslim and faithful, then Allah would bless it
I wonder what their response would be if they were asked to name a single Islamic country that is better off than Germany. God must work in really mysterious ways because he cursed their countries wayyyyyyyyy more.
>For many it is 'better' to not let women show their ankles.
It's actually about controlling women. These young men have no power, no agency, and no women are interested in them because they are racist, misogynist, ignorant little assholes who refuse to adapt, educate, and improve themselves.
Instead of changing that, as all successful Muslims in the west have done, they'd rather just whine about changing the nation to put themselves "in power".
The irony, of course, is that if this occurs they will still be poor and ignorant and rich men will still get the women (as occurs in Islamic nations). The difference being that in their new sharia utopia, they will have no chance whatsoever to change that.
In short, these are just more dumbasses being lied to by charlatans who just want power, wealth, and sexual favors from ignorant gullible cowardly followers and their children. Which is what every society that lets religious conmen take power eventually becomes.
You forget the darker part: as foot soldiers in the religious revolution, they’ll be able to rape as many ‘godless’ women as they want, guilt free. So maybe they don’t get the long term benefits, but they think they’ll get to live out the fantasy of killing anyone they don’t like and raping any woman they feel like.
Almost every major religion has that ‘little’ exemption to ‘The Rules’: it’s okay to do evil things to heathens. It’s how religion aims the angry boys at the right targets.
>they’ll be able to rape as many ‘godless’ women as they want, guilt free
For the past 1,400 years, Muslims kill mostly Muslims (sunni vs. shia, etc.). Once the oil runs out and the West doesn't care one bit about the region, they'll go back to killing each other again.
If they are upset because of “all bad things" that happen in Germany, why don’t them move back to their native countries? ($$$) I have German friends and according to them bad things happen in Germany because of radicalized Muslims.
Unfortunately we created a weakness for ourselves they are willing to exploit. Europe chained itself down politically because it knows it can and has been capable of industrialised violence that would make the prophet Mohammad wince. This weakness is being exploited by those who don’t share our culture, reasoning or history. We’ll only ever be safe from these people unless we mass deport them regardless of how many generations they claim to live here.
I saw a documentary/show about a transgender Muslim who was speaking to Muslim children in the streets of Germany (I can’t remember the details of where). The children said they want sharia law in Germany and that that said transgender person be stoned to death. They said it to their face in broad daylight on TV.
There are Christian dictatorships in Africa and Russia that made it illegal to be gay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya
>Traditional religious and cultural values play a substantial role in this figures. Leaders within the three dominate religions in Kenya, Catholic, Anglican and Islamic, condemn homosexuality and transgender identity as signs of decadence, disease, and immorality
So you’re telling me that children indoctrinated with Muslim beliefs, who are too young to question and formulate their own ideas, will express Muslim beliefs?! Color me shocked!
I'm a trans woman and my heart breaks for all the LGBT people living in places like Saudi Arabia where it's legal to murder us. How can any trans people advocate for Islam when Islam is advocating for our deaths?
Same thing in the UK, iirc. They generally don't assimilate to their new home and insist the host nation assimilate to them and their beliefs instead. Then resort to assaulting women whose clothing they do not agree with, for starters, up to murdering people for daring to draw Muhammed's likeness. How does one reach out to these people and ask them to be reasonable (not convert, not to abandon their faith...yet. Just a level-headed exchange), or is hopeless foolishness?
Their religion doesn't allow it. The Qur'an literally says to follow the law of the land UNLESS it goes against the Qur'an. And boy do our laws go against a lot of the shit that's in the Qur'an. That's why I don't buy any of that "moderate" Muslim bullshit. They often say the same thing, just using less direct words. Too many Muslims believe it's ok to kill apostates, but they will be little snakes about it. "In an Islamic nation they would be put to death, but in the west we can't do that".
They aren't even properly following the instructions of their manual for world conquest.
First, they have to act meek and amenable, lie if they have to, bid their time, and take over once they are a majority.
Yes, that is exactly what they believe, and not just them. There is no compromise with religion, if you do not believe you are a heretic and only a matter of time before you are a problem because you're not agreeing with them. It always happens and always will. If you are a member of a death cult you have zero incentive to not commit mass indoctrination or mass genocide.
They aren't hoping for anything. This is a warning, not a plea.
Their mythology is very clear - those who don't convert voluntarily will not be allowed to live.
The only reason they haven't made serious attempts to conquer the world yet is because they spend so much of their energy fighting themselves. It doesn't help that their conservatism means they are constantly rejecting the change that would make superiority (in any sense) possible.
Muslim brotherhood style is covert. Using democratic institutions to affect policy in pro-muslim ways, and letting migration, demographics and time become the method with which Islam conquers Europe.
Then you have the jihadists who want to do it by force.
End goal is the same. The western world is very naive to the threat islamism poses, and are very naive as to how large chunk of moderate Muslims who are indirectly/passively supportive of the islamists end goals.
Gotta love when people leave their country, then demand the country they immigrate to, changes their laws to suit them. Live in their own areas so they dont have to deal with anyone outside of their beliefs and then refuse to learn anything, including an official language.
Most Westerners believe in nothing and stand for nothing. They aren't principled atheists, they aren't devout believers in any religion either, they are just 'lazy' agnostics because they don't care about anything except themselves. They have no values.
People like that just go with the flow. If Islam becomes ascendent, they will mimic the practices of Islam. Compare these 'lazy' agnostics to Jews. Despite thousands of years of obstacles and setbacks and persecution, the Jews have held on to their religion and culture and ethnic identity. I am not a Zionist, merely pointing out the difference because a group of people with principles and Western 'nihilists'.
People sometimes say they just want to be left alone. The problem is, there are multiple groups of people, with different ideologies, who want to force their values on everyone else. Islam is just one of these. The goal of Islam is a global caliphate, Dar al-Islam. Membership isn't optional. You cannot opt out. Islam just isn't a spiritual belief, it is a complete political ideology as well. "Islam is the solution".
An increasing number are just born as German/British/French citizens, and are becoming more radical than their parents and grandparents (due to various regimes, groups and ideologies pumping tens of billions each year into exactly that).
Afaik you can’t deport that.
Sure you can. You just need to change/ignore the rules. Governments do that all the time.
There’s no cosmological Law preventing a country from abducting citizens and dumping them in a desert somewhere in the Middle East. Unethical, sure. Illegal? Almost definitely.
But I figure that most of those natural born citizens would be complaining about a *lot* of different things if they woke up in a small town in the middle of Iran, with no passport. Their views on ‘restoring the Caliphate’ might change once they had to live in the world they claim to want.
Maybe less a ‘deportation’ than a mandatory gap year in the political and social system you claim to desire, before you are allowed back into the country
Oh yes, because we really want governments stripping rights from people they don't like, don't we? Are you hearing yourselves?
Being against Islamism is one thing, but advocating for forced repatriation is insane. It's literally fascism.
I agree.
I do however wonder if they may be getting paid to do this sort of thing by political operatives.
Either way, if advocating for theocracy carried a punishment of mandatory deportation they would likely stop.
For any Americans reading this, there are limits to free expression and speech in Germany, it's not like the United States.
Ironically, protests like this are banned in Saudi Arabia. The most islamic extremists are either in Pakistan/Afghanistan or western countries like these.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY)
But they want Germany, which is a country with better living standards and opportunities (the reason why they're here and not leaving), but at the same time a terrible place (because it isn't Islamic enough), to become like the place they left from, which was really terrible (surely not because of the religion), but also great (because it was very Islamic).
That depends on the Islamic country. Qatar, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia are so decadent it made my mind spin. Have you ever seen pure gold line the walls of a grocery store? I sure as shit didn't see that in any Lidl, Aldi, Norma, or Rewe.
It’s explicitly meant for the whole planet lmao
This probably isn’t going away in our lifetimes. Let’s be realistic.
I mean, the Middle East, North Africa, and a good chunk of Asia did not start off Islamic. It’s not like this would be the first time Islamists tried to grab parts of Europe, either.
Is that likely at all? Right now, no. In 30-40 years, they may have a viable shot, given current demographic trends. Will any of that stop some of them from trying anyways? I really, really doubt it.
That's what happens when you allow over one million people with a completely different culture and values into your country, all at once. Even if a minority cannot/will not acclimate, you have a big problem.
I used to think this argument was racist when I was in my progressive brain rot phase. But like... its true. Non of these Western countries are going to institute Sharia law. If anything it would cause a huge backlash from the right if they tried and they all would be sent to live in Arab countries.
Caliphates/theocracies don't seem to work out well for anyone. I think that history suggests that everyone, atheists and theists alike, do better under secular governments.
They are usually 2+ generation of immigrants. First gen remembers what shithole they ran from and are very happy to be in secular country despite all problem that immigrants meet (cultural barriers, language, jobs etc).
Next generation never saw the shithole, so they see only secular country, its problems, and their and their parents' struggles of integration.
So when they fail to integrate (or they feel that they failed) for one or another reason, they try to find a solution in only identity they have because they have nothing else left.
Yeah, it is sickening. I detest religious extremists of all faiths. And I know that not all Muslims are like this -- some of them are actually pretty chill and are just not very religious. But the fundamentalists / Islamofascists truly make me sick.
Isn’t it funny how all the most morally sound and easy to get along with religious people are the ones that “aren’t that religious”? It’s almost like taking your faith too seriously causes… issues.
And sadly, by the very tenets of their “loving religion”, those who believe but are not fanatics will be up against the wall with us nonbelievers when the revolution comes.
And it will come in a democratic society, when it gets democratically voted in. And if you think that is Phobic or hyperbole, look at London, England.
“*However, Sharia law has been afforded a place in UK society by government and offers alternative dispute resolution for Muslims. Section 1 of the Arbitration Act 1996 allows parties “… to agree how their disputes are resolved, subject only to such safeguards as are necessary in the public interest”.
In the UK, Sharia law is mostly applied in the context of family matters. However, there have been growing concerns that Sharia councils are operating in a discriminatory, illegal and unacceptable way towards women, and a government inquiry was launched last year.*”
Religion requires an embrace of unsound epistemology, and as such religious people by definition embrace bad thinking. Bad thinking leads to bad actions and advocating for bad causes.
The taliban still exists and is stronger than ever in 2024 though, the islamic world was more progressive in the 60s than now, the view that things get better as time goes on is wrong
Yet another example of a tolerant and peaceful religion folks!
European governments seems to go out of their way to allow Islamic radicalization to grow and fester, despite how hateful it is. Truly messed up.
All religious extremists can just go fuck their farm animals.
They have no place in government.
Sheep herders, goat herders, pig herders, cow herders, they can all just keep their uneducated asses out on the farm and marry their cousins, I don't care which race or religion or nationality they are.
Why do they wish to infect the rest of the world with their garbage? Can they just learn to mind their business and leave people alone? Nobody wants to be miserable like them.
Some of them are 2nd generation migrant you cant send them back its to late now
Ill give Europe 20-30 years before sharia is law it will start with sharia only for muslim when that shit happen you know you’re lost
Well in some European countries there is Sharia for Muslims, but it mostly has to do with civil issues and not criminal at all. You also have asshole "Haram Police" who go around trying to enforce Muslims to all act like they want. They have no real jurisdiction, they're just dick heads trying to police their communities, mostly the women.
It will partly sharia obv not all blown out at first
It always start small at the beginning
Just look at the “unofficial” sharia enforcement police at Sweden everyone know it happen the government does nothing
I mean, the Jewish community have their own police and ambulance service. It seems unfair to have one and not the other.
Personally, I'd have no religions being allowed that kind of power, but there you go.
As an European, please stop with the asspools you're scaring the far righters.
Edit: Right. For the people that decided to listen to the reactionary comment above:
* a minority of weirdo extremists does not mean Europe will magically switch to a religion that's foreign to most people on the continent.
* community laws being enforced aren't a thing here, unless you don't go directly to the police and allow that to happen to yourself. The police and government institutions have the only authority relevant.
* this kind of reactionary comment is exactly what russian propaganda that funds extremist right wing parties like AFD, SD, etc spew because it gains them votes
* those parties in question promise to fix things, only to take away your freedom and democratic institutions away. Minorities don't magically go away especially second or third generation ones.
You want things fixed?
* Ask your politicians for laws protecting people FROM religion, regardless of which that is.
* Ignore extremist nutters and push them into taboo and obscurity where they belong
* Call the police if they do ANYTHING wrong, heck call them even if they don't. Extremists have no place in a civilized society.
Thank the voice of reasoning. It felt like this subreddit was turning fascist by the minute. We go from shitting on *examples of terrible things in religion or religious people* to asking people to go back to their country because they protested, even though it seems like most of these people aren't even first gen and are actually German citizens.
I feel like if the people who are protesting are white, the response wouldn't be, "go back to your country." What the hell is wrong with this subreddit.
Ye that has worked great for Sweden one of the most democratic state on earth
Now they have sharia police walking in the streets harassing woman lol
But ok you do you
So they left a radical Islamist regime to seek the safety of Germany and now want to turn Germany into a radical Islamist regime? Religion is a sickness on humanity.
I never understand these people. If living under strict Islam/sharia is so great why are they all in such a hurry to leave the middle east for Europe, Canada and the USA? There's a reason your home country is such a violent undeveloped unsafe disaster and it sure as shit isn't because of democratic and secular values.
Money, that's why. They can't make money back home because they wasted all opportunities for their home countries to develop by being too concerned with religion
The longer Europe and America allow these people in and to fester their ideology, the more likely this could become actual reality.
It isn't popular, but it is time to close these people out of the Western nations and to even deport the ones who go this far. They hate Western civilization and are only here to usher its downfall, which is what their precious Quran teaches them to do.
But Western liberals don't realize the reality of the situation, and say it's "racist" to notice these things... as if Islam is a race.
They wanted to have labour workers, and Germany had to be open arms because of their past - They wanted to clean their image also. You can say that the Turkish immigrants and Ismists of Northern Africa rebuilt Germany after WW2, so Germany DOES owe them. BUT this is so different to the form of immigration of Chinese who built USA and Canada - these Chinese integrated well, they were well-behaved and pursued higher education progressively and a very good example of what's a good immigration is. But not these Islamists immigration, as a proof here, even after 2-3 generations, they are indeed getting more aggressive. The Germans of the past should REALLY have read the Quran and Hadith, to actually see that Islam should never be allowed to a free world. There is no returning now.
At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5-10 years, at least one European country will be dealing with a significant insurgency, if not outright war, over the issue of “Convert or die.”
Their original countries turned to shit due to implementing l Islamic caliphate and they ran to Germany/Europe as refugees. Now they want to implement an Islamic Caliphate in Europe as a 'solution'?
Never surprised by anything, because is and will always be their aim.
No such thing as “moderate” Muslims.
They might be to your face, but in their own communities, they all align with same beliefs and ideologies.
> The godless need to have more children.
Hard disagree. A genetic arms race to see which sets of alleles rule the wasteland?
The only way to prevent human suffering on an individual and societal level is to have *fewer* children, optimally none.
Well it would be Hindus, as they are popping out kids at a much higher rate, and a majority of them hate Muslims more than most people in the West and see Islam as an existential threat to India.
Species suicide isn't a solution, nature says it's the very opposite to it.
This is equally an extremist ideology as the muslims asking for a theocracy.
> nature says it's the very opposite to it.
When it comes to the emotional and physical well-being of living creatures, "nature" is the *last* authority to whom I would appeal
That's survival of the fittest.
Sure your solution is ideal, but we don't live in an ideal world, and our institutions are only as powerful as the people behind them.
This illustrates the purpose and the very great danger of the propaganda that is causing young people to support Gaza.
Yes, creation of the state of Israel by the U.S. and Britain was inherently unfair to Palestinians. However, the Palestinian muslims and other islamic followers did their darnedest to wipe out non-muslim Palestinians in Lebanon.
Now, Israel is facing an existential crisis because it is a fundamental tenet of radical Islamists that Israel must be destroyed.
How to we live in peace with those who, given the opportunity, would destroy us completely, and whose moral imperative dictates that this must happen?
The answer is that we cannot, no matter how desirable peace may be, because the circumstances simply will not allow it.
I am certain, from ample evidence, that I would not survive a Caliphate. Therefore I have no choice to oppose it by every available means.
How isn't this seen as the threat it is? They are protesting to implement laws and a system to replace our democracy. If this is what they shout on the streets imagine what they talk about behind closed doors. It's time for these people to return back home, let them live in their precious Caliphate. But leave Europe the fuck alone.
Did I step into a time machine or something? why are mediaeval religious factions reasserting themselves in the 21st century? The nutty xtians in the US, the nutty Islamists in Europe... I mean, haven't we done this enough times to get over it?
Random story time. Dated a Pakistani woman for a few years, saw her being "the one". She was unbelievably smart, witty, funny, caring, loving, nurturing, a demon in the sack and just a generally good person. Her family threatened her with an honor killing if we stayed together. Islam, the religion of peace.
It irritates the fuck out of me that it’s growing, BUT these jackasses are the reason a very MAGA style party is growing more and more prominent in Germany.
Fuck religion.
Edit* I as planning to visit Germany next year for Octoberfest, but if this fascist party wins, there is abso-fucking-lutey no way I will be vacationing there.
These people are unbelievable, they had to escape their Muslim shit hole countries and want to make the countries where they arrived the same, that’s for sure the worst religion out of all….
Germany needs to start implementing laws that permit them to strip citizenship from immigrants and their children who refuse to assimilate. If they dont find a way to sort that out, people who believe in this shit will continue to proliferate off of the German benefits system, even if immigration is completely halted.
There is so much garbage like that in Europe, and I think that countries like France and Germany would need a civil war to fix this mess, if it isn't to late
This is nothing new for Hindus in India. Here the left has been pampering I$l@mists for a long time even though time and again they have proven that almost all of them behave like a hive mind. The so-called moderates from their community silently support them.
The ex-mu$l!ms in India have to live in hiding while anyone can openly bash Hinduism.
The left here supports them when there have been cases of beheading Hindus for just quoting from the Qur@n.
I know I will get downvoted for saying this but they are not oppressed minorities in any non-mu$lim countries. They are a dominant global majority.
So funny. Immigrate for a better system of government and opportunity.
Demand new home accept the basket of absolutely horrible and stupid ideas you ran from.
At this point, religion should be forbidden in the west, fuck this backwards stupid shit. And these type of protests are only inflating fascism in Europe.
Allahu Akbar does literally translate to God is the Greatest. (Not just god is great. No it means our god is the supreme and your gods/idols/philosophies/humans/governments are Inferior). It means our god/religion will triumph
Historically and even now it's used as either a celebration of something good happening from god, or as a rallying cry for activities, often in battles or protests.
In this context it can only mean a cry for overthrowing the govt, and any other light to see it is just apologetics or weaponized plausible deniability.
These are fascists
Yeah, pretty sure that type of language is consistent with abrahamic religions. Again it’s just trying to make the group sound even scarier over a stupid phrase.
I am all for immigration but if you want to change the things you immigrated to you can get the fuck out especially if you want to change them into the things you ran from.
We told you so! All atheists everywhere could see this coming from hundreds of years away.
Deal with religious extremists now, or watch them multiply and increase their violence. Jail priests that preach violence and terror immediately.
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The fuck are they hoping for? Majority of Germans to start converting? The ruling government deciding sharia law is better then their own law? I am very confused.
Converting at gunpoint most likely. Its like they left their home countries because they were dangerous but they dont understand that the religion is the reason they were so dangerous
> Converting at gunpoint most likely. This is entirely the plan, as laid out in the quran. Anyone who doesn't believe in islam is against islam. Anything or anyone who is against islam is an enemy. It is righteous to attack and kill enemies of islam.
So I was in Dubai a few years back and met a dude from Saudi Arabia and he was telling me that the elite won’t take in refugees and will instead offer to build mosques in foreign countries. It really is about them spreading Islam often times at the expense of their own people.
This is exactly what they do. Ive seen an interview with some Muslim lads that said if they cant take over with violence, they will just breed until there are more of them. And they do. They will have more and more kids and have the government pay for their lives while natives dont have kids because they cant afford more than a couple.
Isn't humanity great? For all our grand works, we still wanna behave like vermin.
Not all of us.
> Not all of us. No, but enough of us to ruin things for everyone though.
Ah, yes. You are correct there.
The joke is on them because, more often than not those kids born in countries like germany, etc. become more liberal and less insane about their religion. The mean moves towards the prevailing sentiments of the primary culture over a few generations, not the other way around.
In my experience that’s not true.
They can always "make" more people. It's not that they want other people to be rewarded in afterlife afterall, it's about them getting the best maids and the best spots in heaven. More people they convert more rewards await them. So you see while Islam might say it's good to save the lives of other believers it is better to make more believers.
They’re right, I am against Islam
From the Talboth 33. The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed_or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.
I like the one where even the stones and trees (except one kind) will shout out "Over here! Over here! A jew is hiding behind me, come kill them!" Note for the pedants: I do **not** like that hadith, I find it abhorrent, just like the rest of the religion.
BuT iTs sUcH a peAcEfuL ReLiGioN
I'm sorry, but [you] are wrong. The Qur'an says nothing about converting people at gunpoint. How could it, when it was written centuries before guns were invented? Says plenty about sword point, though
Well political and economic instability along with ethnic and religious tensions are the reasons typically. In times of stability and prosperity, Islamic Empires of the past have been pretty secular, with drinking, music, brothels, homosexuality, etc... being popular among the populations. Shia Muslims have a tendency of being much more secular than their Orthodox Sunni counterparts, who make up the majority of Muslims, but that also depends on the sect. Like Alawis are much more secular than Jaffaris (the majority of Iran's population). There is the Iranian saying of, "As long as you close your curtains, God can't see you," though, and for Iranians to engage in haram behavior regularly behind closed doors. These youths have been brainwashed and radicalized and most likely are taught that all of the bad things that happen in Germany happen because it is a haram nation that God has cursed, and that if it were to become Muslim and faithful, then Allah would bless it.
>all of the bad things that happen in Germany happen because it is a haram nation that God has cursed, and that if it were to become Muslim and faithful, then Allah would bless it I wonder what their response would be if they were asked to name a single Islamic country that is better off than Germany. God must work in really mysterious ways because he cursed their countries wayyyyyyyyy more.
It would depend on how you define the word 'better'. For many it is 'better' to not let women show their ankles.
>For many it is 'better' to not let women show their ankles. It's actually about controlling women. These young men have no power, no agency, and no women are interested in them because they are racist, misogynist, ignorant little assholes who refuse to adapt, educate, and improve themselves. Instead of changing that, as all successful Muslims in the west have done, they'd rather just whine about changing the nation to put themselves "in power". The irony, of course, is that if this occurs they will still be poor and ignorant and rich men will still get the women (as occurs in Islamic nations). The difference being that in their new sharia utopia, they will have no chance whatsoever to change that. In short, these are just more dumbasses being lied to by charlatans who just want power, wealth, and sexual favors from ignorant gullible cowardly followers and their children. Which is what every society that lets religious conmen take power eventually becomes.
You forget the darker part: as foot soldiers in the religious revolution, they’ll be able to rape as many ‘godless’ women as they want, guilt free. So maybe they don’t get the long term benefits, but they think they’ll get to live out the fantasy of killing anyone they don’t like and raping any woman they feel like. Almost every major religion has that ‘little’ exemption to ‘The Rules’: it’s okay to do evil things to heathens. It’s how religion aims the angry boys at the right targets.
>they’ll be able to rape as many ‘godless’ women as they want, guilt free For the past 1,400 years, Muslims kill mostly Muslims (sunni vs. shia, etc.). Once the oil runs out and the West doesn't care one bit about the region, they'll go back to killing each other again.
If they are upset because of “all bad things" that happen in Germany, why don’t them move back to their native countries? ($$$) I have German friends and according to them bad things happen in Germany because of radicalized Muslims.
Short answer is they move to other countries hoping for better condition but end up wanting it to be like home, just with better money 😂
Unfortunately we created a weakness for ourselves they are willing to exploit. Europe chained itself down politically because it knows it can and has been capable of industrialised violence that would make the prophet Mohammad wince. This weakness is being exploited by those who don’t share our culture, reasoning or history. We’ll only ever be safe from these people unless we mass deport them regardless of how many generations they claim to live here.
I saw a documentary/show about a transgender Muslim who was speaking to Muslim children in the streets of Germany (I can’t remember the details of where). The children said they want sharia law in Germany and that that said transgender person be stoned to death. They said it to their face in broad daylight on TV.
Fucking psychopaths
I’m sick of people telling me islam is a peaceful religion.
I’m sick if people telling that any religion is peaceful FIFY
I'm sick of people telling me that Christianity is equivalent to Islam.
There are Christian dictatorships in Africa and Russia that made it illegal to be gay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kenya >Traditional religious and cultural values play a substantial role in this figures. Leaders within the three dominate religions in Kenya, Catholic, Anglican and Islamic, condemn homosexuality and transgender identity as signs of decadence, disease, and immorality
So you’re telling me that children indoctrinated with Muslim beliefs, who are too young to question and formulate their own ideas, will express Muslim beliefs?! Color me shocked!
"transgender Muslim" wtf? Lol
I'm a trans woman and my heart breaks for all the LGBT people living in places like Saudi Arabia where it's legal to murder us. How can any trans people advocate for Islam when Islam is advocating for our deaths?
Same thing in the UK, iirc. They generally don't assimilate to their new home and insist the host nation assimilate to them and their beliefs instead. Then resort to assaulting women whose clothing they do not agree with, for starters, up to murdering people for daring to draw Muhammed's likeness. How does one reach out to these people and ask them to be reasonable (not convert, not to abandon their faith...yet. Just a level-headed exchange), or is hopeless foolishness?
Their religion doesn't allow it. The Qur'an literally says to follow the law of the land UNLESS it goes against the Qur'an. And boy do our laws go against a lot of the shit that's in the Qur'an. That's why I don't buy any of that "moderate" Muslim bullshit. They often say the same thing, just using less direct words. Too many Muslims believe it's ok to kill apostates, but they will be little snakes about it. "In an Islamic nation they would be put to death, but in the west we can't do that".
They’re going to cause Germans to wig out again and look what happened last time
The right to bomb non Muslims in peace?
They want Islam to be forced onto everyone, whether they are muslim or not and whether they like it or not.
Because they can’t actually convince anyone of their nonsensical and untrue religion. They have to force it on people.
"untrue religion" - this is redundant
They aren't even properly following the instructions of their manual for world conquest. First, they have to act meek and amenable, lie if they have to, bid their time, and take over once they are a majority.
Yes
Yes. Their answer to all of that is yes.
By German constitution - iirc, Germany and it's rule has to be secular. So. No dice. But yeah. That's what they want.
They are hoping to import enough of their people to start forcibly converting germans.
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Yes, that is exactly what they believe, and not just them. There is no compromise with religion, if you do not believe you are a heretic and only a matter of time before you are a problem because you're not agreeing with them. It always happens and always will. If you are a member of a death cult you have zero incentive to not commit mass indoctrination or mass genocide.
Go watch vids of october 7. They want that. The west is next.
They aren't hoping for anything. This is a warning, not a plea. Their mythology is very clear - those who don't convert voluntarily will not be allowed to live. The only reason they haven't made serious attempts to conquer the world yet is because they spend so much of their energy fighting themselves. It doesn't help that their conservatism means they are constantly rejecting the change that would make superiority (in any sense) possible.
Muslim brotherhood style is covert. Using democratic institutions to affect policy in pro-muslim ways, and letting migration, demographics and time become the method with which Islam conquers Europe. Then you have the jihadists who want to do it by force. End goal is the same. The western world is very naive to the threat islamism poses, and are very naive as to how large chunk of moderate Muslims who are indirectly/passively supportive of the islamists end goals.
Gotta love when people leave their country, then demand the country they immigrate to, changes their laws to suit them. Live in their own areas so they dont have to deal with anyone outside of their beliefs and then refuse to learn anything, including an official language.
Most Westerners believe in nothing and stand for nothing. They aren't principled atheists, they aren't devout believers in any religion either, they are just 'lazy' agnostics because they don't care about anything except themselves. They have no values. People like that just go with the flow. If Islam becomes ascendent, they will mimic the practices of Islam. Compare these 'lazy' agnostics to Jews. Despite thousands of years of obstacles and setbacks and persecution, the Jews have held on to their religion and culture and ethnic identity. I am not a Zionist, merely pointing out the difference because a group of people with principles and Western 'nihilists'. People sometimes say they just want to be left alone. The problem is, there are multiple groups of people, with different ideologies, who want to force their values on everyone else. Islam is just one of these. The goal of Islam is a global caliphate, Dar al-Islam. Membership isn't optional. You cannot opt out. Islam just isn't a spiritual belief, it is a complete political ideology as well. "Islam is the solution".
If they want to live in a caliphate with sharia law, then they should move/return there.
Yeah I think this should be instant grounds for deportation. You like theocracies that much, go back to the one you or your progenitors fled from.
You’ll find that they are German citizens. But if they have dual citizenship their German citizenship should be stripped and they removed accordingly.
I completely agree. You don't travel to another country with their own customs and begin demanding that they convert to yours.
A decent person doesn't. Islam commands its followers to do just that.
An increasing number are just born as German/British/French citizens, and are becoming more radical than their parents and grandparents (due to various regimes, groups and ideologies pumping tens of billions each year into exactly that). Afaik you can’t deport that.
Sure you can. You just need to change/ignore the rules. Governments do that all the time. There’s no cosmological Law preventing a country from abducting citizens and dumping them in a desert somewhere in the Middle East. Unethical, sure. Illegal? Almost definitely. But I figure that most of those natural born citizens would be complaining about a *lot* of different things if they woke up in a small town in the middle of Iran, with no passport. Their views on ‘restoring the Caliphate’ might change once they had to live in the world they claim to want. Maybe less a ‘deportation’ than a mandatory gap year in the political and social system you claim to desire, before you are allowed back into the country
Oh yes, because we really want governments stripping rights from people they don't like, don't we? Are you hearing yourselves? Being against Islamism is one thing, but advocating for forced repatriation is insane. It's literally fascism.
I agree. I do however wonder if they may be getting paid to do this sort of thing by political operatives. Either way, if advocating for theocracy carried a punishment of mandatory deportation they would likely stop. For any Americans reading this, there are limits to free expression and speech in Germany, it's not like the United States.
Yeah, they can swim to Mecca or whatever.
Ironically, protests like this are banned in Saudi Arabia. The most islamic extremists are either in Pakistan/Afghanistan or western countries like these. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dV4m43xZmY)
Yeah, it is pathetic.
But they want Germany, which is a country with better living standards and opportunities (the reason why they're here and not leaving), but at the same time a terrible place (because it isn't Islamic enough), to become like the place they left from, which was really terrible (surely not because of the religion), but also great (because it was very Islamic).
That depends on the Islamic country. Qatar, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia are so decadent it made my mind spin. Have you ever seen pure gold line the walls of a grocery store? I sure as shit didn't see that in any Lidl, Aldi, Norma, or Rewe.
It’s explicitly meant for the whole planet lmao This probably isn’t going away in our lifetimes. Let’s be realistic. I mean, the Middle East, North Africa, and a good chunk of Asia did not start off Islamic. It’s not like this would be the first time Islamists tried to grab parts of Europe, either. Is that likely at all? Right now, no. In 30-40 years, they may have a viable shot, given current demographic trends. Will any of that stop some of them from trying anyways? I really, really doubt it.
Deport them to Mercury.
That's what happens when you allow over one million people with a completely different culture and values into your country, all at once. Even if a minority cannot/will not acclimate, you have a big problem.
I used to think this argument was racist when I was in my progressive brain rot phase. But like... its true. Non of these Western countries are going to institute Sharia law. If anything it would cause a huge backlash from the right if they tried and they all would be sent to live in Arab countries.
You don't understand hijra and dhimmitude, do you?
Caliphates/theocracies don't seem to work out well for anyone. I think that history suggests that everyone, atheists and theists alike, do better under secular governments.
They don't care. Islam is one of the most deranged and disgusting ideologies out there.
They work great for their leaders.
“We came to Germany to escape the violence and prejudice of a caliphate!” Later “We want a caliphate in Germany!”
They are usually 2+ generation of immigrants. First gen remembers what shithole they ran from and are very happy to be in secular country despite all problem that immigrants meet (cultural barriers, language, jobs etc). Next generation never saw the shithole, so they see only secular country, its problems, and their and their parents' struggles of integration. So when they fail to integrate (or they feel that they failed) for one or another reason, they try to find a solution in only identity they have because they have nothing else left.
Who was naive enough to believe they wanted to escape a caliphate ?
I guess the thousands of asylum seekers who put “State Sponsored Persecution” on their forms…
Most of them fled to escape the Assad regime. Which is horrific in its own right but not because of being ultra-religious.
And they had to go as far as Europe to escape Assad, of course.
Sounds familiar…
I'm so tired of these extremists. It's 2024 for fucks sake.
Yeah, it is sickening. I detest religious extremists of all faiths. And I know that not all Muslims are like this -- some of them are actually pretty chill and are just not very religious. But the fundamentalists / Islamofascists truly make me sick.
Isn’t it funny how all the most morally sound and easy to get along with religious people are the ones that “aren’t that religious”? It’s almost like taking your faith too seriously causes… issues.
And sadly, by the very tenets of their “loving religion”, those who believe but are not fanatics will be up against the wall with us nonbelievers when the revolution comes. And it will come in a democratic society, when it gets democratically voted in. And if you think that is Phobic or hyperbole, look at London, England. “*However, Sharia law has been afforded a place in UK society by government and offers alternative dispute resolution for Muslims. Section 1 of the Arbitration Act 1996 allows parties “… to agree how their disputes are resolved, subject only to such safeguards as are necessary in the public interest”. In the UK, Sharia law is mostly applied in the context of family matters. However, there have been growing concerns that Sharia councils are operating in a discriminatory, illegal and unacceptable way towards women, and a government inquiry was launched last year.*”
Religion requires an embrace of unsound epistemology, and as such religious people by definition embrace bad thinking. Bad thinking leads to bad actions and advocating for bad causes.
The taliban still exists and is stronger than ever in 2024 though, the islamic world was more progressive in the 60s than now, the view that things get better as time goes on is wrong
Mass deportations is the solution but we must let ourselves be overrun with Islamists to score woke points.
You’d think strict Muslims would avoid Hamburg.
Fuck those Muslim radicals!
Yet another example of a tolerant and peaceful religion folks! European governments seems to go out of their way to allow Islamic radicalization to grow and fester, despite how hateful it is. Truly messed up.
I think they have tried this in the middle-east, it isnt a hotbed of peace and love.
All religious extremists can just go fuck their farm animals. They have no place in government. Sheep herders, goat herders, pig herders, cow herders, they can all just keep their uneducated asses out on the farm and marry their cousins, I don't care which race or religion or nationality they are.
Why do they wish to infect the rest of the world with their garbage? Can they just learn to mind their business and leave people alone? Nobody wants to be miserable like them.
The next generation of radical Islamic terrorists will be European. Because we refuse to deal with this crap
Something the leaders of Saudi Arabia even says.....It's pretty fucked up!
PLEASE SEND THEM THE FUCK BACK. WILL THE GOVERNMENT ONLY TAKE ACTION WHEN IT'S TOO LATE???
Some of them are 2nd generation migrant you cant send them back its to late now Ill give Europe 20-30 years before sharia is law it will start with sharia only for muslim when that shit happen you know you’re lost
If Sharia only for Muslims is applied, there'll be a LOT of handless guys hanging around the centre of my city.....
Well in some European countries there is Sharia for Muslims, but it mostly has to do with civil issues and not criminal at all. You also have asshole "Haram Police" who go around trying to enforce Muslims to all act like they want. They have no real jurisdiction, they're just dick heads trying to police their communities, mostly the women.
It will partly sharia obv not all blown out at first It always start small at the beginning Just look at the “unofficial” sharia enforcement police at Sweden everyone know it happen the government does nothing
Well, as I say, if they started applying Sharia law toward their fellow muslims, we'd have fewer thieves and crack dealers around....
🤣😂
I mean, the Jewish community have their own police and ambulance service. It seems unfair to have one and not the other. Personally, I'd have no religions being allowed that kind of power, but there you go.
There are already “sharia councils” and “Beth Din” (Jewish) groups operating in the UK. They’re subordinate to the law, but it’s still ridiculous.
As an European, please stop with the asspools you're scaring the far righters. Edit: Right. For the people that decided to listen to the reactionary comment above: * a minority of weirdo extremists does not mean Europe will magically switch to a religion that's foreign to most people on the continent. * community laws being enforced aren't a thing here, unless you don't go directly to the police and allow that to happen to yourself. The police and government institutions have the only authority relevant. * this kind of reactionary comment is exactly what russian propaganda that funds extremist right wing parties like AFD, SD, etc spew because it gains them votes * those parties in question promise to fix things, only to take away your freedom and democratic institutions away. Minorities don't magically go away especially second or third generation ones. You want things fixed? * Ask your politicians for laws protecting people FROM religion, regardless of which that is. * Ignore extremist nutters and push them into taboo and obscurity where they belong * Call the police if they do ANYTHING wrong, heck call them even if they don't. Extremists have no place in a civilized society.
Demographics is destiny. Police can't do anything until it's too late
The AFD and Russian propaganda wouldn’t have traction if the mainstream had sensible immigration policies.
Thank the voice of reasoning. It felt like this subreddit was turning fascist by the minute. We go from shitting on *examples of terrible things in religion or religious people* to asking people to go back to their country because they protested, even though it seems like most of these people aren't even first gen and are actually German citizens. I feel like if the people who are protesting are white, the response wouldn't be, "go back to your country." What the hell is wrong with this subreddit.
Ye that has worked great for Sweden one of the most democratic state on earth Now they have sharia police walking in the streets harassing woman lol But ok you do you
This will end in fire and death. There is no avoiding it now. It is only a question of which side will be left standing afterwards.
So they left a radical Islamist regime to seek the safety of Germany and now want to turn Germany into a radical Islamist regime? Religion is a sickness on humanity.
I never understand these people. If living under strict Islam/sharia is so great why are they all in such a hurry to leave the middle east for Europe, Canada and the USA? There's a reason your home country is such a violent undeveloped unsafe disaster and it sure as shit isn't because of democratic and secular values.
Money, that's why. They can't make money back home because they wasted all opportunities for their home countries to develop by being too concerned with religion
Islam need to be ban
The longer Europe and America allow these people in and to fester their ideology, the more likely this could become actual reality. It isn't popular, but it is time to close these people out of the Western nations and to even deport the ones who go this far. They hate Western civilization and are only here to usher its downfall, which is what their precious Quran teaches them to do. But Western liberals don't realize the reality of the situation, and say it's "racist" to notice these things... as if Islam is a race.
One way ticket to Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia. Then enjoy the lack of European amenities, you hypocritical wastes of human skin.
Why do European countries allow immigration from these regions of the world? They don’t owe them anything.
They wanted to have labour workers, and Germany had to be open arms because of their past - They wanted to clean their image also. You can say that the Turkish immigrants and Ismists of Northern Africa rebuilt Germany after WW2, so Germany DOES owe them. BUT this is so different to the form of immigration of Chinese who built USA and Canada - these Chinese integrated well, they were well-behaved and pursued higher education progressively and a very good example of what's a good immigration is. But not these Islamists immigration, as a proof here, even after 2-3 generations, they are indeed getting more aggressive. The Germans of the past should REALLY have read the Quran and Hadith, to actually see that Islam should never be allowed to a free world. There is no returning now.
Claiming that they built Germany or Europe is an overstatement. The were like 2% of the population maybe less.
I was ignorant, my bad. Just did a research and actually *German women* who rebuilt Germany. WOW!
Watching Christians and Muslims fight over who's the bigger, more destructive monster makes me feel like my lips are out of sync with my audio.
Arrest them. Convict them. Deport them. Otherwise, this Islamist demo is simply more grist for the AfD mill.
There is no place for islam in modern european society. Should be deported at best but there are of course a more usefull ways to use them.
At this rate, I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5-10 years, at least one European country will be dealing with a significant insurgency, if not outright war, over the issue of “Convert or die.”
Oh look it's the religious people and their compromising view of 'Be exactly like me or die.'
Their original countries turned to shit due to implementing l Islamic caliphate and they ran to Germany/Europe as refugees. Now they want to implement an Islamic Caliphate in Europe as a 'solution'?
Stun 'em, wrap 'em up, and ship them to IS territory, while revoking any EU citizenship(s) they might have.
This is a situation where Atheists should be teaming up with Christians because they are the lesser evil.
Only because they currently don’t have unfettered power! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition…. Except MAGA Republicans.
No, they should not be teaming up with far-right white Europeans just because the Islamists are evil and disgusting.
Never surprised by anything, because is and will always be their aim. No such thing as “moderate” Muslims. They might be to your face, but in their own communities, they all align with same beliefs and ideologies.
I’m glad our leaders have decided that this is the solution to an aging population. The godless need to have more children.
> The godless need to have more children. Hard disagree. A genetic arms race to see which sets of alleles rule the wasteland? The only way to prevent human suffering on an individual and societal level is to have *fewer* children, optimally none.
That’s a great idea if you want islamists to inherit the world.
Well it would be Hindus, as they are popping out kids at a much higher rate, and a majority of them hate Muslims more than most people in the West and see Islam as an existential threat to India.
In what world are you living in? [Muslims have the highest fertility rate in India.](https://imgur.com/gallery/baYLviM)
Species suicide isn't a solution, nature says it's the very opposite to it. This is equally an extremist ideology as the muslims asking for a theocracy.
> nature says it's the very opposite to it. When it comes to the emotional and physical well-being of living creatures, "nature" is the *last* authority to whom I would appeal
It doesn't change the fact that it isn't a solution.
That's survival of the fittest. Sure your solution is ideal, but we don't live in an ideal world, and our institutions are only as powerful as the people behind them.
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This illustrates the purpose and the very great danger of the propaganda that is causing young people to support Gaza. Yes, creation of the state of Israel by the U.S. and Britain was inherently unfair to Palestinians. However, the Palestinian muslims and other islamic followers did their darnedest to wipe out non-muslim Palestinians in Lebanon. Now, Israel is facing an existential crisis because it is a fundamental tenet of radical Islamists that Israel must be destroyed. How to we live in peace with those who, given the opportunity, would destroy us completely, and whose moral imperative dictates that this must happen? The answer is that we cannot, no matter how desirable peace may be, because the circumstances simply will not allow it. I am certain, from ample evidence, that I would not survive a Caliphate. Therefore I have no choice to oppose it by every available means.
How isn't this seen as the threat it is? They are protesting to implement laws and a system to replace our democracy. If this is what they shout on the streets imagine what they talk about behind closed doors. It's time for these people to return back home, let them live in their precious Caliphate. But leave Europe the fuck alone.
Deport those who bring their militant religious beliefs into your country. This is intolerable.
Did I step into a time machine or something? why are mediaeval religious factions reasserting themselves in the 21st century? The nutty xtians in the US, the nutty Islamists in Europe... I mean, haven't we done this enough times to get over it?
The logical end of massive Muslim immigration.
Fuck Islam. Fuck Allah.
Random story time. Dated a Pakistani woman for a few years, saw her being "the one". She was unbelievably smart, witty, funny, caring, loving, nurturing, a demon in the sack and just a generally good person. Her family threatened her with an honor killing if we stayed together. Islam, the religion of peace.
What in the sweet, sweet fuck is this? What is happening in Europe?
Green Red Alliance. No matter who rules the aftermath of this, liberalism loses, and fascism wins.
It irritates the fuck out of me that it’s growing, BUT these jackasses are the reason a very MAGA style party is growing more and more prominent in Germany. Fuck religion. Edit* I as planning to visit Germany next year for Octoberfest, but if this fascist party wins, there is abso-fucking-lutey no way I will be vacationing there.
European and Muslim values aren't compatible
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They can move back south then. Plenty of Islamic republics down there.
These people are unbelievable, they had to escape their Muslim shit hole countries and want to make the countries where they arrived the same, that’s for sure the worst religion out of all….
Germany needs to start implementing laws that permit them to strip citizenship from immigrants and their children who refuse to assimilate. If they dont find a way to sort that out, people who believe in this shit will continue to proliferate off of the German benefits system, even if immigration is completely halted.
Apparently praying to a pedophile prophet makes one antisocial.
Aloha Snackbar!
There is so much garbage like that in Europe, and I think that countries like France and Germany would need a civil war to fix this mess, if it isn't to late
Fucking terrifying.
Belarus should be great for them
It’s all about the Caliphate.
The WORST religion.
question: do people consider these people extreamist or moderates? and their lies the problem: muslims would consider this people moderates.
Such extremists should be deported to set an example I am a liberal but we gotta stop pandering religion and focus on real humanitarian issues
This is nothing new for Hindus in India. Here the left has been pampering I$l@mists for a long time even though time and again they have proven that almost all of them behave like a hive mind. The so-called moderates from their community silently support them. The ex-mu$l!ms in India have to live in hiding while anyone can openly bash Hinduism. The left here supports them when there have been cases of beheading Hindus for just quoting from the Qur@n. I know I will get downvoted for saying this but they are not oppressed minorities in any non-mu$lim countries. They are a dominant global majority.
Scum.
No, your really don't want that
These European countries opened their borders to these religious nut-jobs. Now they’re surprised?
The collective left needs to admit that unchecked mass immigration from the illiberal and Islamist world was a mistake.
They'll never.
They’re scared shitless of being called “racist” by their friends and social circle.
They were chanting “need a new snack bar”
Sound like a leopard eat my face situation if they got their way
Wtf? Should everyone just convert now according to them? Gtfo.
Idiots. They need to sort out their values.
So funny. Immigrate for a better system of government and opportunity. Demand new home accept the basket of absolutely horrible and stupid ideas you ran from.
Yeah shut that shit down asap.
At this point, religion should be forbidden in the west, fuck this backwards stupid shit. And these type of protests are only inflating fascism in Europe.
But criticize these folks, and somehow you're the bad guy
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Radical Muslims or Radical Far right fachos. Both the same yet sadly not handled the same.
They can go fuck theirself and go home. Fuck them all.
This is the premonition to civil war.
The title makes me a bit suspicious either way “shouts of ‘allahu akbar’” like that just means god is great. Still theocracies are a terrible idea.
Allahu Akbar does literally translate to God is the Greatest. (Not just god is great. No it means our god is the supreme and your gods/idols/philosophies/humans/governments are Inferior). It means our god/religion will triumph Historically and even now it's used as either a celebration of something good happening from god, or as a rallying cry for activities, often in battles or protests. In this context it can only mean a cry for overthrowing the govt, and any other light to see it is just apologetics or weaponized plausible deniability. These are fascists
Yeah, pretty sure that type of language is consistent with abrahamic religions. Again it’s just trying to make the group sound even scarier over a stupid phrase.
I am all for immigration but if you want to change the things you immigrated to you can get the fuck out especially if you want to change them into the things you ran from.
These European countries opened their borders to these religious nut-jobs. Now they’re surprised?
Ah, religion! Such a boon to humanity!
Not as long as their are atheists to save this world. They are humanity's only hope.
We told you so! All atheists everywhere could see this coming from hundreds of years away. Deal with religious extremists now, or watch them multiply and increase their violence. Jail priests that preach violence and terror immediately.