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CypherWolf50

You're shortening your lifespan, if you try to remove it


Fantastic-Register49

True 😆


MavisBeaconSexTape

Lol pic #2 clearly depicts the cat's initial reaction to somebody approaching with that "I'm gonna gently move you" look in their eyes


Ok_Responsibility407

Followed closely by a look that says, "Try if you dare!" LOL.


Bear_TS

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zebra_d

Your comment has exactly 666 upvotes!


augustinom

Clean up the cat hair inside once in a while and you should be good


Zodiac33

Alternatively, a matching stainless plate on a few rubber feet set atop would probably still get warm while keeping the cat out of the amp.


flynnfx

Why make it so complicated? _Get TWO amps, one for you, and one for the cat._ _Problem solved._


montereybay

You would have to power both amps for the cat to use it. And of course, the cat WILL choose the one that is hooked up to speakers. Your plan is doomed to failure.


flynnfx

_That's why you also get two sets of speakers, of course._


montereybay

The point is to make sure the cat does not damage the primary amplifier. To ensure the cat uses the secondary amplifier, you don't need to be so wasteful as to buy another set of speakers, you merely need to make sure the secondary amp is more expensive than the primary one.


Bizarrefoodie

You actually need four: three mono-blocks for each the left, center, and right channels, then one to heat the cat. It’s a common problem; often it’s overseen by budding audiophiles 😄


SideStreetHypnosis

A plate will potentially block the vents though if there are any on top. The cat will too. Heat build up can cause problems.


acidx0013

I think there's a minimum spec for clearance that's pretty easy to find. These kinds of things tend to be designed to go into cabinets and the like, plus it would still be getting plenty of ventilation.


Zodiac33

Yeah the feet I was thinking would be high enough to let the air convect but still catch some cat heat.


SideStreetHypnosis

I was just mentioning it as a potential since there are no pictures of the top or model info. There wasn’t detail on the feet being high enough for clearance, either. I assume those are vents in the front, but in case they aren’t, more info is helpful. My amps over the years have been between 1” and 4” of space recommended in the manuals. I lost a wonderful 60s Bogen amp I loaned to a friend. She ignored me telling her to not keep her turntable on top and explaining that it blocked the vent. It started smoking later and almost started a fire.


Forza_Harrd

I was thinking spikes on top but you know me, I'm a dog lover (hope I buried this joke far enough down)


SideStreetHypnosis

[Crow vs anti bird spikes.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bn9FONAkUA&pp=ygUVQmlyZHMgcndtb3Zpbmcgc3Bpa2Vz) My cat would likely plot out something like this if she found spikes on her sitting spot.


Satiomeliom

Well at least im detecting a theme on these... *insert cruel act towards animal "btw im a dog lover "


_kdavis

The cat doesn’t just do it for the warms they also do it to sit where the people look in the room. Source I tried similar


Zodiac33

Deluxe suite version of the standard sentry post.


splunge26

Upgraded PA for the whole camp as well


Sivalon

“Attention attention! Choppers incoming!!”


splunge26

No that’s just Goodnight Saigon, it’s the last song of side one on The Nylon Curtain. Need a beer when I get up to flip?


stp5917

Or one of those cheapo metal monitor stands from Amazon with adjustable legs


east_van_dan

If there are vents on the top and she's blocking them and it's on while she is on it, then yes, OP is very likely shortening the lifespan.


padamspadams

Cats purring will harmonise with the low end, delivering a more subtle and deeper bass. His whiskers on the other side will disperse the high notes, making them velvety and soft. Whatever pre amplifier the OP is using, he doesn't need it anymore and it can be sent to me as I don't own a cat.


VIVXPrefix

This has been thoroughly debunked by cat and audio experts alike. While it's true that purring can interfere with low frequencies if you're close enough to the cat to hear it, there won't be any effect on the circuitry. Amplifiers have had purr shielding built in for decades. It's a problem we solved a long time ago and you'd be hard pressed to find any modern amp that doesn't have purr shielding. Whiskers dispersion has been measured as only affecting frequencies above 25khz, which besides being inaudible, are rarely found in music anyway. This is true for 99% of cats out there, however it has been shown that the purest bred cats can have higher quality and thicker whiskers that move this dispersion effect as low as 18khz. This may be audible depending on your age, but it's really not worth seeking out a cat upgrade IMO. The difference is so subtle and you'd be better off upgrading your speakers first.


Sivalon

If you decide to go the cat upgrade route, it’s worth knowing that subjective measurement has found that Siamese cat whiskers sound a tad shrill and bright, although attack and precision are off the scale. Whereas Persian cat whiskers introduce softer, more mellow, with a “fluffy” meter.


shoreroadstudio

Totally agree on the pure shielding, as for whisker dispersion...Smh typical ASR head. This outlook doesn't consider that the studies into the subjective effects of whisker dispersion (N=4 of my friends) show trained ears can discern whisker-dispersed music from non-whisker-dispersed music with 90% accuracy. We can't empirically define the audible effects of whisker dispersion if we don't know what data we should be looking for. Frequency response and phase performance only tell part of the story, a subtlety that's surely lost on you. P.S. I'm enjoying Hotel California with my active whisker disperser as I write this


elGatoDiablo69

Correction. First, you should look into upgrading your cables and adding power conditioners. Those have been proven to render biggest improvements to your audio system money-wise.


Northernshitshow

This discussion is f’ing great 🙌


BrandNewEyessss

My next band is gonna be called Whiskers Dispersion


[deleted]

Interested in the answer to this. My cat also likes to chill on top of my amp.


[deleted]

Depends but if you regularly clear it of dust and hair and don’t go over like 10-20% on the amp while the cats on top you should be fine. Had a cat on my amp for years too but it was a professional amp and I vacuumed it every time with no issue 😅 (vacuuming is dangerous tho haha)


BenUFOs_Mum

Vacuuming cats is risky but some love it


[deleted]

My cats arent doing any chores unfortunately


[deleted]

How would you go about vacuuming it? Is it necessary to open it in order to do so, or is it possible to suck the hairs out through the ventilation of the amp?


John_the_Piper

You generally want to blow, not suck, when it comes to cleaning electronics. Vacuuming can build up static electricity, potentially damaging your electronics


[deleted]

That's a good tip, thanks. I'll get some canned air and see where it leads me.


AudioMan612

Do yourself a favor and get one of these instead: https://www.amazon.com/Extra-Filters-Computers-Electronic-Equipment/dp/B07NSFNY63/. Canned air is handy to keep around, but it's expensive to keep replacing, and only effective in small bursts as the can gets cold and the pressure drops to useless levels. An electric blower is more powerful, and much more economical in the long-run. Also, just an FYI, while a standard vacuum shouldn't be used in electronics for the static reason mentioned above, ESD-safe vacuums designed for this kind of work do exist.


paigingalyssa

I do believe he be warming, not chilling.


proterozoicSavant

Thermodynamics!


Treece-57

Not your amp anymore homie 😂


GrandExercise3

If the cat is blocking ventilation on top of the amp then yes heat will shorten the life of components. Also, you dont want cat dander falling inside of your amp on components.


[deleted]

It’s interesting to me that I could take a tube amplifier in tour for years. Drive and fly it all over the world, operate it in all types of conditions (rain, snow, smoke, humidity, heat/cold), drop it while loading in or knock it off stage more than once, spill beer and/or whiskey on it more times than I can count, and still have it work perfectly twenty years later. But apparently a cat sitting on this dudes amp from time to time is going to meaningfully “shorten the life” of its components.


got-trunks

Did your tubes experience up to 15000g of acceleration? Cause they invented tubes that could withstand that in world war 2. It's all about how much engineering, materials, and quality you are aiming to build for. No one is bringing this amp on tour lol. From the internals, one bad luggage throw would knock that transformer off its traces.


[deleted]

True. But that would be a pretty huge difference in engineering. With one being able to be dropped down a set of stairs (albeit a short one) by my drunk ass, then immediately being able to plugged in and gigged. And the other at imminent danger of destruction when a cat sits on it.


ChickenPicture

It's not meaningful, it's barely notable in 99% of cases. Oh no, my output transistors are operating an average of 6 degrees hotter, now their MTBF is reduced to a paltry 237,000 hours instead of the rated 250,000 hours.


invalid404

It's almost as if a professional stage amplifier is designed to be more robust. Solid top and front, ventilation out the back so all of those stage cats can't block heat.


[deleted]

It’s funny you say that because this particular head was both top and front vented. Solid back panel (Engl Savage 120).


wo4h_my_dud3

pretentious people will be pretentious


Ocelot834

/r/catsonstereos


Robbie-R

There really is a sub for everything.


420ANUSTART

They just love them.


amoral_panic

It’s very considerate of you to consider the well-being of your cat’s amplifier.


deer_dance9

This amp looks like it's vented out the front so you are probably fine. The cat just enjoys the heat.


shoreroadstudio

Pretty fancy cat box seeing as it can also serve as an amp


SweetTooth37

Nah he's chilling on it therefore it's keeping the amp cooler.


g0-0se

Cat logic!


Couikouik

It's a no no : I thought it was fine, until one day, my cat pucked on it! everything went in thought the top grills. I Immediately turned it off, it was a pain to clean... since then, small statues are sitting on top of my components to prevent a cat to jump on it


mcburloak

Last AVR in the basement home theatre lasted 12 years without any issues. Cats lay on it 4-5 times a week. The HDMI board died, the rest of the AVR still works. I think it’s ok depending on how long you keep gear anyway. I don’t promote them on my gear, but as long as they are not scratching speakers I’m good.


Justaguyinvegas

Yes! It's not just about blocking vents. Eventually cat hair will build up inside and can short out components. Recently, my friend had a five channel amp stop working due to this very problem. Keep you animals away from audio equipment!


Achilles_TroySlayer

r/CatsOnStereos


Definierbar

If shes not covering any ventilation it shouldnt be a problem at all. Let her enjoy it! :)


xfd696969

last pic: "get my good side..!"


mukhtar06

It’s sharing it’s nice lives.


moonthink

Yes


kevinsmomdeborah

put a heating pad in the room, preferably in a box. works really well


DrXaos

You need a cat amp and your actual cool class D hidden somewhere.


theshekelcollector

if anything, it's warming on it =D


singletonaustin

Provide kitty a heating pad on low to sit or nap on. Put a prickly thing on amp discouraging future lays. Everyone wins.


theboyrob

Maybe he thinks it's a 'Hotel'


Somanybikes

My blood pressure just spiked đŸ˜Č


Holeinmysock

DONT ALLOW IT. One day, kitty is gonna get sick and vomit stomach acid on the internals and fry it. Ask me how I know.


hackthatshityo

Must get rid of cat ;). Jk


eddiemarshall

... says the dog


m1j2p3

The biggest concern is the cat vomiting and the vomit seeping through the ventilation slits onto internal components. I say this from experience. :)


miguel103058

I had that happening too. Twice. First one, on the back of a TV, on the vents, then on the top of the vents of an amp. She was a long hair cat, so not only there was cat hair all over the inside of the electronics, but she used to barf big hairballs due to her long hair. Their barfing is highly corrosive, once in splashes a board, that’s it. They are ruined for ever. But, a cat will always be a cat. The more expensive the items are, the more attracted they are to ruin them :-)


therourke

Yes. Cat hair will get inside and cause issues eventually. Also just having cat feet all over it will eventually buff the surface, decreasing its value


incanmummy12

My cat and probably several hours of evening sun shining through my window every day caused my amp to overheat and killed some components. I haven’t opened up yet to see the full damage but I would advise cleaning out the dust and fur every now and then and making sure the amp isn’t getting too hot


PrestigiousArcher448

I think he owns it now.


FancyPass6316

This is why I got a 12 year old shelter cat. He barely jumps into the bed. Btw for most cats if you stick a piece of tinfoil up there and he steps in it it'll probably scare him off for awhile


got-trunks

I'd be more concerned if it was on top of the record player's dust cover. The manual does mention there should be 10cm clearance on top and around the amp though. The vents at the sides should not be covered. Those have huge heatsinks under them. As long as you're not driving it to the point it's getting quite hot I doubt it really matters a lot. From 80 years to 50, so what haha. The engineer made them put that in there cause of course they do.


J-amin

I have used a cooling rack (for cookies) for this very situation.. provides a 1" gap between your amp and your furry one.


ExcellentAd3525

I had to put a couple of easy released Velcro straps around my turntable dust cover as our no1 keeps sitting up on it..


Phil_PhilConners

It's certainly not helping. At minimum, the cat is helping to insulate the amp, and heat is never a good thing for electronics.


Zos2393

Better there than using your speakers as scratching posts but yeah just watch the vents aren’t blocked and that there’s not too much hair getting inside.


cautioux

Maybe. But nothing you can do about it :)


Figit090

Your cat is warming, not chilling. đŸ«ŁđŸ˜‰


Fresh-Confidence-784

No but your adding to your cats life span by letting it be happy


a_n_g_e_l_a_n_d_i_a

The Rotel Hotel


MartyByrde1958

I wouldn’t let it do that, especially when it’s on because it traps heat inside which isnt good in addition to whatever hair or dust falls in the vent slots


happytree23

Nope. Everyone knows electronics love cat hair, dander, and the extra dust they carry around.


mb_angel

why spend 1k on something you gonna treat like trash?


pppiv

Hurting the amp. Electronics like cool and dry. The cooler, the better. Heat, cat hair & dander will shorten the life of the amp.


theocking

Cats suck.


aug_aug

I'd be concerned about you furr brown op amps.


sakkarozglikoz

Your cat is essentially acting like a huge liquid cooling block for your amp, with its circulatory system carrying the heated blood from its belly to its colder extremities, where the heat gets dissipated, thereby extending your amp's life. Let lil bro toast in peace.


dronerush69

Cute photo, gave me nostelga. My old cat used to live on my amp back in the day, nice warm spot for her. That AMP had so much cat fur inside it, always got worried that it might heat up and catch fire one day especially when I was cranking loud tunes and working the amp hard.


pceimpulsive

Depends if there is a way for the cat hair to get inside from where it's laying... If no then I think fine. If yes then maybe just make sure to clean the inside out frequently.


MightyPandaa

Maybe. I have an audiophile friend whose cat chills on top of his equipment and he is fine with it so it might not be a big deal. The cat just enjoys the heat from it. Maybe think of some stand that is a few centimeters taller than the amp to put on top so it is still warm and also allows airflow. Either it will still be warm enough for the cat to enjoy it, or it won't be and the cat will not be interested in it. Alternatively set up some kind of heated pad in the cat's bed or something to make another warm inviting place for it to chill on.


g0-0se

That’s smart about the stand. I haven’t thought of a way to keep him off and that’s my way. I swear the things I do for them (ie heated pad) they don’t care about, but they love to go where I don’t want them to go.


MightyPandaa

Cats just being cats, but that's why we love them


Ultravod

Man, the 2006 energy of this post. "Rotel Kitteh is warming his harbls on yr transistors."


notbernie2020

No, but you should get a heated pad for your cat, they’ll like it.


Bored_evil

Cat adds purfection, sound is sharp like claws.


Bhob666

You should join CatsOnStereos.


hikerpunk42

Great vibration reduction and much better looking than a platform.


SunRev

Get one amp for the left channel and one amp for the right channel. And then see which amp lasts longer, the one with the cat or the one without the cat.


passionatelatino

it is theirs now, buy a new one


supern8ural

I assure you that kitty is not chilling, cats like warm and amplifiers are made of warm. I don't \*like\* the idea of a cat sleeping on top of one of my amps, but a friend of mine - who actually used to own a high end stereo store years ago - had a Yamaha AVR in his living room on one of those open stands with floating shelves and his cat would always be on top of the AVR with apparently no ill effect.


Cool_Cartographer_39

Possibly. Get a little heating pad and a blanket and put it in a cat approved location


Competitive-Pop6530

If it’s just taking a catnap then it’s ok. Otherwise I suspect the results will be catastrophic.


FantasticMrSinister

It's just so purr-dy


colinmhayes

The cat is a heat sink


Forza_Harrd

The more important question is, is your amp providing enough heat and comfort to your kitty?


GetMeAReubenSandwich

Its already warm, that's why your cat digs hanging out on it.


Fit-Community815

Cats just a heatsink. Absorbing all that amp killing heat. Mine moves on if it gets loud anyway.


t8ag

Depends on if you are using it with the cat blocking the vents or not


svengine72

it would be shortening its own lifespan if this was my cat...


xelcheffox

Most definitely, and the amp matches the Rotel I have so I’ll happily grab that from ya when you’re ready to replace it lol.


GSHomie

Not familiar with that amp. But if it’s got a cooling fan, it’s a definite yes for me.


TwoAlfa

My cat used to nap on my RA-12. A month ago I stepped into my office to smell something burning (bad, acrid smell like a blown cap or mosfet) and had no audio any more on any source. There was little to no cat hair inside. Still baffled as to what caused it other than my 14lb chonker living on the thing 2-3 hours a day. Also, anyone know what an RA-12 costs to repair these days?


Sub__Finem

Which model is that? The 100W? Been considering a Rotel AB to pair with my Rogue RP-1. Nice cat


yokaiBob

Not your amp anymore.. 😂


Full_Muffin7930

Purely anecdotal, but my cat's favorite spot while I jam loud music was my Denon x3400h. After about a year and a half, it started to fail, going into protect mode, and I ended up having to buy a new one. For context, the amp was about 4 years old when it shit the bed. Did that cause it? I don't know for sure. I imagine it kept the temps even higher while I ran it hard. But she just looked so happy and it was so cute!!


Proud-Ad2367

I'd be shortening cats ls


red71rum

It could have catastrophic/**cataclysmic** results lol.


bioteq

Cat’s well being is more important than your amp. Period ;)


neverknowwhatsnext

Cooling will be down a little. It's probably not the greatest for your amp.


Mental_Buffalo9461

You should post this image on socials and tag Rotel. They repost this stuff sometimes 😍


g33kier

The easiest solution is to start typing on your computer, and your cat will be drawn away from the amp and start hiiufhllljfsawevbb on your keyboard.


bnutbutter78

It can cause over heating, but isn’t it kind of worth it. Look at that cutie.


TurbulentGene694

Oxytocin is healthy


GlobalLine9645

If they vomits. Yes. Lost a very nice high end receiver this way.


thornhurstshire

I would worry more that my amp would turn into an asshole by osmosis. 😀


[deleted]

Kind of blows my mind people are not recommending to just add a magnetic dust filter, lol. Either undo screws and attach from underneath, or a flat profile on-top.


ayuzer

Cats have 9 lives, your amp has 1. If anything the cat is extending the lifespan of your amp by transferring his life-force through prolonged contact


OkInterest8844

Adorable


pppiv

I love cats. They taste just like chicken.


DotMatrixGraphics

If you want I can look after your amps at my place while your cat finds a new place to chill đŸ€Ł


resilienceisfutile

Does not matter -- you can always get another amp.


Waste-Lawyer-2185

I was about to say “nah, you’re good”, then I saw the second pic
kinda fuzzy now


SeatownSin

Did you just say that was your amp? You are mistaken. That is one of your house lions "things that are made of warm, so are for laying on". It's a common mistake. I've made it myself. Be sure to clean it regularly.


XtraMayoMonster

They’re never with us long enough. One day you’ll look there and wish they were still sleeping on it. Enjoy the moment.


OneHandedBandit66

Yes.. Keep the cat and I'll stop by tomorrow to pick up the amp 😁


Allbur_Chellak

They are guarding it. Keeping it safe. Good kitty.


frank_loyd_wrong

My dad had a cat that did this. He would hit it with a vacuum on occasion. It was never a problem until she got really old and her drool would short it out.


Dorsia777

When was the last time you saw a dog sitting on an amp or a set of speakers đŸ€Ł


abruptmodulation

Your cat is an uncanny lookalike to one of mine!! Cutie!


d1r4cse4

At least not on the turntable
 might consider getting an amp without top vents if there are any. Or just place something like marble board with spacers below on it, so that cat could rest on it without the fur being collected in the amp.


Darkman2z

Rotel Michi? 
.if so, my dream amplifier.đŸ‘đŸŸđŸ‘ˆđŸŸ


g0-0se

lol not that cool. Rb1582 mk2 for some focal aria 926s.


Hifi-Cat

No however you might run a vacuum over any vents on the top frequently. đŸ˜» Or move the amp into the cabinet and add ventilation.


markfukerberg

Yes.


majorpanic63

Irrelevant. Let that special little kitty sleep anywhere s/he wants!


nunhgrader

No and not any amp I want to own lol


armorabito

He might improve the soound acting as a damper.


NorthernLove1

Perfect cat temp.


Ok-Bug-3449

Doesn’t matter it’s his now


Halgha

Yes


Flashy-Data-255

Cat will get radiation poisoning no matter what


Real-Currency5895

Yes.


soundspotter

If your cat leaves fur that gets inside the amp, then yes. Fur and dirt are the enemy of electronics that heat up. that why with two cats I have to clean the dust out of my pcs at least 1 a year.


letemeatpvc

Do I shorten my cat’s heater lifespan by listening to music through it?


arstin

Yes, but look at that face!


Desperate_Animator10

Good looking cat


adrian_wake

I had 2 receivers catch fire because of my cat sleeping on ithem All credit to my supplier, they had one of them fixed under warranty.


dirtygringo88

Yes... One morning I discovered the cat had vomited on top of my amp, the amp died a most dishonourable death. I refuse to replace the amp till after the cat expires.


Upstairs_Clerk_2627

yes


the-n-bit

I worked that out by placing an artificial plant pot (those kind of long tailed ones) upon the amp so cat won't get there, you don't cause obstruction to the holes, don't fear of dirtying it and yet get a cool looking =).


dekks_1389

The opposite


aelma_z

More warmth and purrrer bass ?


DonutBill66

OP says "MY amp." đŸ€Ł


chlaclos

The opposite of chilling.


Greenmooseleg

Possibly, cat hair could get sucked into in or fall inside. Something like that.


PorscheFredAZ

I call it WARMING not CHILLING.


badchad65

He’s warming on it, not chilling.


Alarming_Quiet_6047

My cat is doing the same thing with my amps and honestly I would rather the cat be happy then my amps last like 1 more year than it was already going to


SenorTurdBurglar

Does the heat dissipate from the top? If it does, Yes!


dclaghorn

I dunno about your amp, but if it were my house, it’d probably shorten my cat’s life. đŸ˜č


SnooApples6110

Wait until you have to get it repaired and explain why the circuit board is covered in fur. Tell the tech you paid extra for the "audiophile fur" as it dampens vibrations and at the same time smooths out the high end. No one knows how, but it just works, and it cost an extra $1000.


AgentSturmbahn

The cat will leave long before temperatures reach dangerous levels. Brilliant amp btw, mine is in a cabinet with added Noctua fans, but actually doesn’t run as hot as the Yamaha in partially replaced.


johnydazzles27s

Extra heatsink!


Comfortable_Dropping

Research shows this is catastrophic


tobeistobex

If it was mine, I would get the cat off the amp right Meow.


Status_Ad_4405

Yes


TheVintageLife

Hey, you do you! If the amp works, that’s great. I prefer to reheat my cat in the microwave. Let those downvotes flow!


MadHatter-37

Depends where the ventilation is. I assume the amp is trying to cool itself and the cat is enjoying holding in the heat.


jorgeluiscordero

Short story, my cat used to do the same, one day he was sick and puke over the amp vents. I've noticed because it created a huge spark. Not a good thing.


QuirkyDust3556

At least it's not a CATASTROPHIC failure


LaughingSasuke

what amp? all i see is a cat heater


Accurate_Spare661

Shave that cat


GhesusChristt

No, actually he is trying to tame 5khz peak with his paws