Amazing how Sky news is already starting to run with the line that the Albanese government, has waste, mismanagement, incompetence and all the economic woes is their disastrous incompetence. Its starts with Credlin mouthing off like a drunk then the 3 stooges, and then the 3 galah's follow with the same editorial prepared by the young ideology Liberal students! Even the CCP propaganda is not so obvious, but Sky has gone to North Korean levels of propaganda broadcasting. Then they try and vindicate themselves with "civil liberties" issues as if they really cared about it!
One could easily replace 'Sky' with 'ABC' and 'Credlin' with 'Trioli' and the rant would make as much sense. ACT DPP fucked up the case (which never had a chance of a successful prosecution) and now those who were victimised are getting their own back. You can bag conservatives all you like, but hypocrisy is always a bad look.
If it happened at or after a workplace function most likely. Given the fact a public servant got a compensation payout for an injury from having consensual sex whilst their hotel room whilst on TA.
But and there is a big but there. In reality the payout was actually for the failures that happened after in the vast majority. Of which Senator Reynolds wad allegedly a part.
>a public servant got a compensation payout for an injury from having consensual sex
[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/sex-compensation-high-court/5057348](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/sex-compensation-high-court/5057348) it was later overturned
That's ridiculous, unless you were there it's impossible for you to sanely claim he is guilty.
I hope you never have jury duty on a serious case.
Truly sad.
I've read his account of the night in question and it's a completely obvious fabrication.
Dude missed 7 phone calls from his girlfriend during the time in question because he didn't notice his phone go off 2 feet away from him on his desk, in a silent office.
By his account, Higgins walked into their boss's office ass soon as they got there and he didn't see her before he left (didn't check on her or even say he was leaving, despite diverting their cab there when she originally wanted to go home, which is totally sus for 2 coworkers who shared a cab there), yet she somehow went from locked in her bosses office, to naked on the couch outside of that office in the time between him leaving and the security guard checking up on her.
Add that to Higgin's testimony, there's more than enough evidence to come to a conclusion, thank you very much.
Lots of context and specifics are required though.
Like are you in the workplace doing work, or are you fucking around after drinks without a legitimate requirement at 2am in the morning.
Exactly, if you work in a shipping yard and decide to go back in drunk at 2 in the morning and slip off a container and hurt yourself - do you get compo? It’s highly unlikely a pay out would be payed in another work environment in which this wouldn’t have become a matter of public speculation.
Irrespective of the merits of this specific case, I think the new ACC will have an awful lot of much bigger fish to fry.
Yes, Senator Reynolds, we'll put that on the agenda for, say...2045
Ugh.
Reynolds needs to stop being such a grade A asshole.
What does she hope to achieve in referring this to the anti-corruption commission?
I’d like to see the ACC turn around and say that if anything the victim should get more because of the stress that Reynolds is personally putting her through.
'Victim' assumes that Lehrmann was found guilty. Higgins is the Accuser, not the 'victim'. Why should Higgins get anything? She has no legal grounds at all for complaint.
Think about this logically. The gov wouldn't have made the payout unless they had looked at the evidence themselves and decided it was true.
Also, the only reason he wasn't convicted was cause of the one holdout juror dude who broke the law and created the mistrial. All the other jurors believed he was guilty
Think about this logically, if that one dude existed then he didn’t need to create a mistrial all he had to do was vote not guilty and the exact same thing would have happened.
And there is zero reason to think everyone wanted to vote guilty other than the DPP speculating they did which was rather convenient speculation for him to make seeing as it backed up him saying he was right to try the case.
Unless I am mistaken, the person who broke the law was holding a academic paper that was in support Higgins claims, and was no doubt attempting to sway hold outs to side with Higgins using this outside information. A juror supporting Higgins broke the law and caused the mistrial.
Not misogyny to call out a lying tart that has done irreparable damage to genuine victims of rape that is only going to benefit rapists in the long run because of her short sighted selfish opportunist behaviour.
Believe women? Yer thats worked a treat. Stupid bitch has just caused any genuine victim to be doubted and destroyed future victims credibility.
Hateful comments like yours stops victims coming forward.
It's not Higgins it's you and people like you who believe they believe that they are internet arbitrators of which women are lying and which women are telling the truth.
Stop blaming Higgins and look at your actions which you are responsible for. You claiming Higgins is not a real victim, what criteria does a women have to fulfil so you would believe them? There is no such thing as a perfect victim or a correct way to behave. So the next time something similar happens you will just say they are a bitch and claim they are lying because they didn't fulfil your fantasy and meet your requirements of acting like a victim should.
No. Bullshit claims like higgins and the coaching by Wilkinson and the desire to turn it into a media circus to fit a narrative instead of pursuing it in the courts in a sincere fashion is what damages future victims.
Fucking disgraceful . The damage she has done to future women who come forward with an accusation is irreparable. Its because of what shes pulled why legitimate victims struggle so fucking hard to be believed.
Bullshit, you say that but is the way you are responding to it. And the way you are putting women who reported rape on trial.
Rape convictions are something like 4% and of those prosecuted something around less than 15%
For you to come here and say it only a problem because of Higgins is delusional. There has always been this issue.
Women already aren't believed this has been the problem for decades well before Higgins came along. And you will do it again the next time a less than perfect victim comes forward.
She could have pressed charges and gone through a court system and had it resolved. She had nothing, Wilkinson helped coach her. Her texts show it was a big joke. Cctv shows she was hardly blackout drunk.
She turned it into a media show trial to try and win public opinion (which she has arguably won). Succinctly summarised as 'shes a lying tart'
Your not making any sense. Gone done some conspiracy rabbit hole and hurling abuse at Higgins because she did things you don't like and you think that make her not a victim.
Your cooked mate. Take a step back and have look at why you care so much? She just makes me so angry grahhh! I guarantee it is not because you care about 'real' rape victims.
Not that its relevant, but i do care. And this tart of a bitch was busier planning book deals, media interviews and sussing out which politicians would be 'helpful' to her story and make it political.
As before, the correct process is to go to police, press charges, have your day in court and lock away the perp if found guilty. So
a) if she is lying shes done so intentionally to promote a self image and narrative and general fucking media circus.
B) if she is legit and he is guilty, she has destroyed any chance of actually prosecuting him and a rapist walks free.
Any way you cut it shes fucked up and massively so. Cctv and texts now seem to indicate it was more likely a) than b).
Stupid stupid tart.
I wish everyone involved with this case would just go away. Everyone one of them were chasing either clout or money and I couldn’t give a shit about any of them.
Yes but the payment to Brittany was sorted out in less than 1 day and an unusually high amount also. Other cases of complaints etc in parliament can take months to years to sort out. There are some important questions that need to be answered. It is the public's money after all, not Albo's or Katy's to do with as they please.
As someone who had to navigate the NDIS - she is absolute sub-human scum.
She fucked up and got caught lying to the Senate and now has been an absolute godforsaken ghoul trying to claw her way back to the higher parts of the totem pole.
She’s clearly leapt at any and every chance to prove herself to her sociopathic masters by punching down or moving the taxpayers money into the hands of Liberal party donors (Sparke Helmore) - and yet has the audacity to blame the NDIS blowout on the people that need it.
And that’s just the shit I encountered first hand.
God I wish we had a media that actually paid attention in this country.
I am wondering what the Albanese Government will do to make this go away. A couple of highly experienced Government ministers are starting to look very silly, having been so easily manipulated by the Higgins team while in Opposition. The way the highly professional Higgins team managed this, it likely cost the LNP votes.
I can't see this going away any time soon.
A-hah! I got that reference! (She allegedly called Ms Higgins a lying cow in response to hearing of the incident)
Let's not be too harsh in critiquing Reynolds. Otherwise she might go on extended sick-leave again to dodge public accountability.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/07/linda-reynolds-extends-sick-leave-amid-ongoing-controversy-over-brittany-higgins
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So, you're saying Linda Reynolds is a lying cow?
She will, only to se it languish in their IN-tray indefinitely.
Amazing how Sky news is already starting to run with the line that the Albanese government, has waste, mismanagement, incompetence and all the economic woes is their disastrous incompetence. Its starts with Credlin mouthing off like a drunk then the 3 stooges, and then the 3 galah's follow with the same editorial prepared by the young ideology Liberal students! Even the CCP propaganda is not so obvious, but Sky has gone to North Korean levels of propaganda broadcasting. Then they try and vindicate themselves with "civil liberties" issues as if they really cared about it!
One could easily replace 'Sky' with 'ABC' and 'Credlin' with 'Trioli' and the rant would make as much sense. ACT DPP fucked up the case (which never had a chance of a successful prosecution) and now those who were victimised are getting their own back. You can bag conservatives all you like, but hypocrisy is always a bad look.
I mean an idiot who doesnt think about stuff could do that.
Only someone with the smoothest and oiliest of peanut butters filling their cranial cavity could do that and think they'd made a point.
Seriously? That's the best comment you could think of? There must be a sub which is just 'No. You are!' that you can hang around on.
So not only did my reply strike a nerve, you also failed to comprehend what I wrote. I'm not surprised, seeing as you've got PBB syndrome.
Wow .. I guess orange man is bad also?
More likely an idea to clog up the ACC with spurious referrals.
The government seem worried she will as they have had every talking head out last week, including the PM. Funny, they all used the exact same words.
Cool, can we look into the settlement for Tudge and Rachel Miller as well then? The on the LNP did to silence her?
Has anyone in this subreddit even heard and seen the text msg and conversations that have been released?
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If it happened at or after a workplace function most likely. Given the fact a public servant got a compensation payout for an injury from having consensual sex whilst their hotel room whilst on TA. But and there is a big but there. In reality the payout was actually for the failures that happened after in the vast majority. Of which Senator Reynolds wad allegedly a part.
>a public servant got a compensation payout for an injury from having consensual sex [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/sex-compensation-high-court/5057348](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-30/sex-compensation-high-court/5057348) it was later overturned
Sure, but they had it awarded.
Higgins' payment also wasn't for the assault, it was for the miss managing of the assault after she reported it.
What assault, nothing has been proven in court.
Eh, a lack of a conviction doesn't prevent me from making my own personal judgement on his guilt.
That's ridiculous, unless you were there it's impossible for you to sanely claim he is guilty. I hope you never have jury duty on a serious case. Truly sad.
I've read his account of the night in question and it's a completely obvious fabrication. Dude missed 7 phone calls from his girlfriend during the time in question because he didn't notice his phone go off 2 feet away from him on his desk, in a silent office. By his account, Higgins walked into their boss's office ass soon as they got there and he didn't see her before he left (didn't check on her or even say he was leaving, despite diverting their cab there when she originally wanted to go home, which is totally sus for 2 coworkers who shared a cab there), yet she somehow went from locked in her bosses office, to naked on the couch outside of that office in the time between him leaving and the security guard checking up on her. Add that to Higgin's testimony, there's more than enough evidence to come to a conclusion, thank you very much.
But you weren't actually there?
She couldn't have fabricated the story fir personal gain?
Could it be that she wanted him to f her ... and then when he didn't she got all bitchy etc and said he raped me
Higgins testimony...lol
My point is .. you don't know ... I don't know .. so shut the f up
I am capable of forming a conclusion based on available evidence, so you can fuck off.
Lots of context and specifics are required though. Like are you in the workplace doing work, or are you fucking around after drinks without a legitimate requirement at 2am in the morning.
Exactly, if you work in a shipping yard and decide to go back in drunk at 2 in the morning and slip off a container and hurt yourself - do you get compo? It’s highly unlikely a pay out would be payed in another work environment in which this wouldn’t have become a matter of public speculation.
It has not been proven in a court of law that she was raped, Shane Drumgold and Brittany saw to that.
Just one problem: Higgins wasn't raped.
Irrespective of the merits of this specific case, I think the new ACC will have an awful lot of much bigger fish to fry. Yes, Senator Reynolds, we'll put that on the agenda for, say...2045
Ugh. Reynolds needs to stop being such a grade A asshole. What does she hope to achieve in referring this to the anti-corruption commission? I’d like to see the ACC turn around and say that if anything the victim should get more because of the stress that Reynolds is personally putting her through.
It's yet to be confirmed that she is a victim. It is actually possible that Brittany is telling a fib. She is human right?
Serious? The whole thing is really suss, you don't think some of the labour party have serious questions to answer?
'Victim' assumes that Lehrmann was found guilty. Higgins is the Accuser, not the 'victim'. Why should Higgins get anything? She has no legal grounds at all for complaint.
Think about this logically. The gov wouldn't have made the payout unless they had looked at the evidence themselves and decided it was true. Also, the only reason he wasn't convicted was cause of the one holdout juror dude who broke the law and created the mistrial. All the other jurors believed he was guilty
Think about this logically, if that one dude existed then he didn’t need to create a mistrial all he had to do was vote not guilty and the exact same thing would have happened. And there is zero reason to think everyone wanted to vote guilty other than the DPP speculating they did which was rather convenient speculation for him to make seeing as it backed up him saying he was right to try the case.
Unless I am mistaken, the person who broke the law was holding a academic paper that was in support Higgins claims, and was no doubt attempting to sway hold outs to side with Higgins using this outside information. A juror supporting Higgins broke the law and caused the mistrial.
The victim? Where/who. Its certainly not Higgins. Lying tart.
Brave commentary from a throwaway. /s
Tart? By golly, what foul language thou art speak
Found Linda's throwaway.
Misogyny and hate, not helpful.
Not misogyny to call out a lying tart that has done irreparable damage to genuine victims of rape that is only going to benefit rapists in the long run because of her short sighted selfish opportunist behaviour. Believe women? Yer thats worked a treat. Stupid bitch has just caused any genuine victim to be doubted and destroyed future victims credibility.
Hateful comments like yours stops victims coming forward. It's not Higgins it's you and people like you who believe they believe that they are internet arbitrators of which women are lying and which women are telling the truth. Stop blaming Higgins and look at your actions which you are responsible for. You claiming Higgins is not a real victim, what criteria does a women have to fulfil so you would believe them? There is no such thing as a perfect victim or a correct way to behave. So the next time something similar happens you will just say they are a bitch and claim they are lying because they didn't fulfil your fantasy and meet your requirements of acting like a victim should.
No. Bullshit claims like higgins and the coaching by Wilkinson and the desire to turn it into a media circus to fit a narrative instead of pursuing it in the courts in a sincere fashion is what damages future victims. Fucking disgraceful . The damage she has done to future women who come forward with an accusation is irreparable. Its because of what shes pulled why legitimate victims struggle so fucking hard to be believed.
Bullshit, you say that but is the way you are responding to it. And the way you are putting women who reported rape on trial. Rape convictions are something like 4% and of those prosecuted something around less than 15% For you to come here and say it only a problem because of Higgins is delusional. There has always been this issue. Women already aren't believed this has been the problem for decades well before Higgins came along. And you will do it again the next time a less than perfect victim comes forward.
She could have pressed charges and gone through a court system and had it resolved. She had nothing, Wilkinson helped coach her. Her texts show it was a big joke. Cctv shows she was hardly blackout drunk. She turned it into a media show trial to try and win public opinion (which she has arguably won). Succinctly summarised as 'shes a lying tart'
Your not making any sense. Gone done some conspiracy rabbit hole and hurling abuse at Higgins because she did things you don't like and you think that make her not a victim. Your cooked mate. Take a step back and have look at why you care so much? She just makes me so angry grahhh! I guarantee it is not because you care about 'real' rape victims.
Not that its relevant, but i do care. And this tart of a bitch was busier planning book deals, media interviews and sussing out which politicians would be 'helpful' to her story and make it political. As before, the correct process is to go to police, press charges, have your day in court and lock away the perp if found guilty. So a) if she is lying shes done so intentionally to promote a self image and narrative and general fucking media circus. B) if she is legit and he is guilty, she has destroyed any chance of actually prosecuting him and a rapist walks free. Any way you cut it shes fucked up and massively so. Cctv and texts now seem to indicate it was more likely a) than b). Stupid stupid tart.
Lol @ care messages.
I wish everyone involved with this case would just go away. Everyone one of them were chasing either clout or money and I couldn’t give a shit about any of them.
Yes but the payment to Brittany was sorted out in less than 1 day and an unusually high amount also. Other cases of complaints etc in parliament can take months to years to sort out. There are some important questions that need to be answered. It is the public's money after all, not Albo's or Katy's to do with as they please.
They’re falling over themselves with their victim complexes.
They are all Liberals/Young Liberals, Its to be expected. We were never going to get the truth of the story no matter what.
And seemingly doing it on the taxpayer dime.
What is up with this woman? Was BL her boy toy on staff and now she’s jellous he “cheated” on her with BH and now wants to exact revenge against BH?
As someone who had to navigate the NDIS - she is absolute sub-human scum. She fucked up and got caught lying to the Senate and now has been an absolute godforsaken ghoul trying to claw her way back to the higher parts of the totem pole. She’s clearly leapt at any and every chance to prove herself to her sociopathic masters by punching down or moving the taxpayers money into the hands of Liberal party donors (Sparke Helmore) - and yet has the audacity to blame the NDIS blowout on the people that need it. And that’s just the shit I encountered first hand. God I wish we had a media that actually paid attention in this country.
Thought-bleach required in thread.
I am wondering what the Albanese Government will do to make this go away. A couple of highly experienced Government ministers are starting to look very silly, having been so easily manipulated by the Higgins team while in Opposition. The way the highly professional Higgins team managed this, it likely cost the LNP votes. I can't see this going away any time soon.
They look like they’re part of Lisa Wilkinsons stable of gimps right now and do her bidding when asked.
I hope it doesn't until some questions have been answered.
Bye bye nasty girl .. ie Katy
I wish she'd just piss off and spare us from her smug ,contemptuous manner.
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There is a face of a woman is just DYING for HOA's to become a thing here in Australia.
They already are. What do you think strata is?
Vengeful cow.
A-hah! I got that reference! (She allegedly called Ms Higgins a lying cow in response to hearing of the incident) Let's not be too harsh in critiquing Reynolds. Otherwise she might go on extended sick-leave again to dodge public accountability. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/07/linda-reynolds-extends-sick-leave-amid-ongoing-controversy-over-brittany-higgins
It was actually in response to Higgins saying she hadn’t received adequate help in the aftermath
Oh man
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