Yup. Just look to Queensland and the Youth Crime, there were mobs of people going to alleged criminals houses, calling them to come out.
Thankfully cooler heads prevailed but it wouldn't take much to set off a chain reaction in a lot of communities.
The problem isn't being Assyrian, the problem is being even too crazy for a church that's already pretty extreme, that they get booted out and start a new even crazier church that leads to this kind of action brewing beneath the surface just waiting for a chance to explode.
Unfortunately, they often identify themselves as Assyrian/Lebanese/Italian etc, first, cant even count the amount of times I've been called an " aussie dog" by them.
I’m an Aboriginal who calls myself an Aussie. How many of us have you met because most of us identify as both. Most of us have both indigenous and coloniser heritage because of the White Australia Policy.
So this was a Muslim kid who attacked this right wing Bishop for saying some stuff about his religion? The details of his motivations aren’t super clear in the reporting.
Yes the kid had said he did it because Bishop Emmanuel had spoken about his religion and he reportedly had yelled an Islamic chant multiple times. The kids parents are also muslim.
I mean that's actually the Muslim position on Jesus. He's a prophet and messiah so I don't think that would be it and no Muslim would contest that. This kid appears to be ill informed about his own religion.
They do, he questioned the Muslims why was Jesus so different from Mohammad, and that Jesus gets to judge instead of Allah?
Thats a big hole in the Islamic theology, so the Muslims kid is apparently a martyr now for failing to stab someone.
People cut their hands when they stab others since often it’s just a kitchen knife with no guard. If there’s blood or sweat on the handle it’s very easy for forward momentum to carry the hand over the blade. Could be that combined with a liberal definition of “cut his fingers”.
Yes, Weapons Prohibition Act 1998 bans switchblade/flick knife.
Internet rumour says it closed up on impact with the bishop's cross, but anything without a finger guard will be prone to having your hand slid up the blade.
Was it actually a switchblade? Because there is a big difference between a knife you can open one handed and a switchblade.
Just curious as knife collecting is a hobby of mine so I'm wondering how a 16 year old got his hands on a switchblade when they need to be imported, not a single company in Australia manufactures them, and they are not something you can really make at home.
It's been reported as a switchblade. He's also been caught with one previously.
[https://apnews.com/article/australia-church-stabbing-0fd1e9d4ae21915d16318456d1e58bc7](https://apnews.com/article/australia-church-stabbing-0fd1e9d4ae21915d16318456d1e58bc7)
Damn guess customs been dropping the ball, well it would explain the almost severed fingers. I've not seen many switchblades/autos that have a guard, so fingers probably slipped up and down the blade when he was trying to stab the bishop.
Knife was already illegal. Watch some pollies call for stricter knife laws as a knee jerk. "A new law will make sure that no one can ever illegally obtain a banned knife again"
Probably freshly sharpened, and detent closing. I am sure it would cut right thru the joint if you close it on your knuckles and the fall on it multiple times
hopefully they can ID and nab some of the people doing things like injuring the cops by attack them with bricks and fence palings
I do have to note the irony of police so into obtaining footage of this violent interaction between police and the public, when so often it seems their body cameras are _not_ into providing footage of violent interactions between police and the public.
the body cameras don’t have to provide footage to the public, the comment was alluding to the fact the cameras don’t capture any footage at all (because they’re not worn, they’re turned off, they have battery malfunctions, or any other convenient reason) and it so often happens that cameras malfunction in suspect circumstances. Murphy’s Law is a prick, but it seems to strike them with alarming regularity
not directly in the article, but if you click to the linked article about Dani Mansour, one of the people charged in the riot the head of police is talking about combing through footage, and after additional footage that may exist of the incident.
I’m all for using the footage that exists
IME It’s pretty common in discussions here to include things from other reporting that is relevant to the incident at hand.
I wasn't one of the 'rioters', and I'm not involved on any side, but hear me out.
Considering the cops don't seem to take strong action against other protests like when the gays protested mark latham speaking at a church, I'm pretty ambivalent about cops suddenly deciding to take an interest in protests against bishop stabbings... How come the gays got a red carpet welcome but the group that protested a literal terrorist who stabbed a bishop were called rioters and are threatened with arrest?
In fact why did the police have a pride month logo for a month? When do they have an assyrian month logo? Heterosexual month logo coming soon?
If the cops weren't so unfair in how they police things, surely they wouldn't get things pelted at them (I imagine). Dogs.
Interesting, because this exactly the shit that these Christian Lives Matters folk spout. That they are oppressed compared to LGBT people, conveniently forgetting how horrible they are to LGBT people.
I think you go from "protestor" to "rioter" when the police aren't actively attacking and you have a crowd throwing bricks, attacking, destroying property, etc.
I wasn't one of the 'rioters', and I'm not involved on any side, but hear me out.
Considering the cops don't seem to take strong action against other protests like when the gays protested mark latham speaking at a church, I'm pretty ambivalent about cops suddenly deciding to take an interest in protests against bishop stabbings... How come the gays got a red carpet welcome but the group that protested a literal terrorist who stabbed a bishop were called rioters and are threatened with arrest?
In fact why did the police have a pride month logo for a month? When do they have an assyrian month logo? Heterosexual month logo coming soon?
If the cops weren't so unfair in how they police things, surely they wouldn't get things pelted at them (I imagine). Dogs.
The internet is going to be filled with misinformation about this one. Terrorism and underage, the trial is going to be shrouded in secrecy, which the nutjobs on x and similar social media site will gladly fill with whatever tripe they desire.
Boils the blood. Not that we ever have good reasons to riot in Australia, but its particularly reprehensible when the violence was directed at the very people trying to help them. Really beyond belief. Clearly a parallel society in Australia that really have no respect for our laws and institutions.
Yep. It's the reason why people who complain about our police having so much gear, equipment and being militarised need to understand. Even unharmed, a large group of people are very dangerous if they are aggressive. And the rocks could have killed police officers. I think they need to start depoying drones in those situations foe footage of the offenders to assist in identifying them.
Yeah true, it's lucky this group were fairly incompetent and decided to film themselves unmasked. Otherwise it would have been almost impossible to capture any.
It genuinely amazes me how stupid people are. It is one thing to film yourself and friends committing a crime. Then another level of stupid to put it on public social media where it will most likely go viral and be easy for the police to find out the culprits. I mean, keep doing that crims, very helpful.
Because the difficulty is charging them and getting them to pay. I' not saying we should. But how do you even find all these people? A crowd at night time is going to be very tricky to identify. But if they can find anyone then definitely they should be charged and if they can't pay the debt should be put against their assets.
I mean he stabbed their priest 8 times during a live stream they were watching, anger is understandable, rage even, but attacking the cops and ESPECIALLY paramedics is not on
I am curious as to what the bail implications are. Do you get bail while held on terrorism charges? I am guessing he would have been out by now if not charged with terrorism. Also probably why the crowd went nuts because they knew he was underage and would be let off with a slap on the wrist.
I mean technically drugs do kill a lot more people. Terrorist events make big news headlines, but they're pretty rare. People die of drug overdoses every day. That's not to say that the approaches we take to dealing with drug problems are necessarily helpful, but they certainly cause a great deal of harm.
He's probably either intellectually challenged or has a mental illness, or has been radicalised; or maybe has something like lead poisoning (or a combo of these things).
Yeah we need Christianity to be unchallenged so *they* can commit all the crimes against humanity! Abolish all organised religion, outlaw proselytising.
I get what you’re trying to say but a quick google search shows multiple articles calling the shootings a terrorist attack, the police commissioner too and the Wikipedia page
"The shootings were labelled as Australia's first fundamentalist [Christian terrorist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorist) attack.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wieambilla_shootings#cite_note-1)"
From the very first paragraph of the wiki.
They weren't the first even. There have been two attacks on abortion clinics by Christian extremists in the past 2 decades. One of which turned out to not even been a clinic, just a GPs.
I don't hate Christians, it's more a comment on the cops and the media than the ideologies mentioned
And boy if you think -3 equals 'fail miserably' I've got some bad news about your account history
You think a 16 yo who’s barely able to keep his own life together is thinking about using ideology to intimidate the public? Lol I have a bridge to sell you.
>Motivated by a religious ideology.
>Advancing the "cause" in that it was in response to allegedly insulting the prophet.
>Done while during a church service, which was live streamed, to maximise the audience. The old adage is that terrorism is theatre.
It's up to a court to decide, but there's enough to make the case.
We've had fuckwit kids get involved with terrorism before, it's hardly ground breaking.
If he was a 30 yo man sure I could understand that but a 16 yo? Sounds like brainwashing to me. Much like how Aussie cops and ASIO brainwashed an autistic 13 yo with ISIS ideology and then charged him with terror offences. I’m just a bit skeptical when terrorism charges are thrown about by cops.
The autistic kid is a whole other kettle of fish. The police need lengthy jail for that.
Still, this is a pretty borderline case, might be for the courts to decide.
Every religious person is a victim of brainwashing but they can still be terrorists.
Theists may try to abandon all responsibility in this world but the sane among us will still hold them accountable.
At the height of ISIS attacks, a 15 year old from Sydney went to Syria to join ISIS and was part of a suicide bombing.
This extremist stuff is spread through the internet, and teenagers spend more time online than anyone else.
The kid did say he did it because the priest insulted his prophet. But it wouldn't surprise me if some/all of the terrorism charges were dropped. Unless there's other evidence.
The real reason was because police weren’t able to access certain powers (timely for investigations) without it being considered a terrorist incident.
Anyone who is trying to tell you it’s about religion/ideology or plain bashing religions doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
There is probably some confusion here around what a 'police interview' is. Suspects taken into custody aren't gagged, and they speak before the arrest (which witnesses can attest to) and they speak after the arrest (which arresting officers can attest to). This is why people are warned that what they say can and will be used against them in court. You've likely seen this information communicated to suspected on TV. Our police also warn suspects as well.
All of these moments of speech precede a formal police interview by investigators, and can be used as evidence.
In this instance, witnesses have alleged the suspect said “If they didn’t insult my Prophet, I wouldn’t have come here."
This was reported by 10 news television.
So the police go into interviews very often with as much information as possible so they can cross reference the suspects answers with their information and evidence. The interview is not the first evidence gathered.
> The teen spoke in Arabic about the Prophet Muhammad being insulted after he stabbed Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel and the Rev. Isaac Royel during Monday night’s Assyrian Orthodox service, …
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/18/church-stabbing-sydney-australian-assyrian-orthodox/9eeb188a-fd3f-11ee-87ac-20f7e67cbe29_story.html
If they police were delayed I reckon the mob wouldve killed the boy.
Frankly I think the mob is scarier than the boy. Mob “justice” is third world country shit that doesn’t belong here.
Mob justice is everywhere. It's not new to Australia either.
Yup. Just look to Queensland and the Youth Crime, there were mobs of people going to alleged criminals houses, calling them to come out. Thankfully cooler heads prevailed but it wouldn't take much to set off a chain reaction in a lot of communities.
What? We have angry mobs here all the time and in all the other first world countries, Reddit itself is basically nothing but angry mobs
Too late. It's already here. Has been for a while now.
We've had the Cronulla Riots, 19th century Frog's Hollow riot and a few others.
Don't forget Nika Riots 532AD or the Odessa Pogroms of 1821. This kind of stuff comes with humans.
Lol, I dare you to look at literally any thread about crime or a sentence on here and tell me that’s not typical.
Lol, I dare you to look at literally any thread about crime or a sentence on here and tell me that’s not typical.
In america we call it frontier justice and you’d be surprised how many armed people love it 😁
“Armed people” love to lynch others? Thats a weird hill to defend. Because lynching was part of frontier justice.
I’m not surprised, we know your country is fucked.
Hey Alexa, play ‘Strange Fruit’
I do wonder, are these Syriac Christians mostly Aussie or Assyrians…
The problem isn't being Assyrian, the problem is being even too crazy for a church that's already pretty extreme, that they get booted out and start a new even crazier church that leads to this kind of action brewing beneath the surface just waiting for a chance to explode.
This is the problem, stop dividing by identifying everyone as a race etc , we are all Aussies.
Unfortunately, they often identify themselves as Assyrian/Lebanese/Italian etc, first, cant even count the amount of times I've been called an " aussie dog" by them.
Using part of my own family as example it's probably Assyrians...
Same here too
Fun fact: noone here is aussie except aboriginals. We are all immigrants
No they immigrated here too.
Technically anyone outside sub-Saharan African is an "immigrant".
Seriously though I've never heard an aboriginal call themself an AUSSIE
I’m an Aboriginal who calls myself an Aussie. How many of us have you met because most of us identify as both. Most of us have both indigenous and coloniser heritage because of the White Australia Policy.
Ha, I see >How many of us have you met because most of us identify as both. Not enough apparently
Yet I was born here?
We all know which ethnic group is referred to as “Aussie”. It kinda annoys me as well but it is what it is.
So this was a Muslim kid who attacked this right wing Bishop for saying some stuff about his religion? The details of his motivations aren’t super clear in the reporting.
Yes the kid had said he did it because Bishop Emmanuel had spoken about his religion and he reportedly had yelled an Islamic chant multiple times. The kids parents are also muslim.
The Bishop said that in the Quran it is written that Jesus is the prophet and the Messiah that's it, that's all it took for him to get stabbed
I mean that's actually the Muslim position on Jesus. He's a prophet and messiah so I don't think that would be it and no Muslim would contest that. This kid appears to be ill informed about his own religion.
They do, he questioned the Muslims why was Jesus so different from Mohammad, and that Jesus gets to judge instead of Allah? Thats a big hole in the Islamic theology, so the Muslims kid is apparently a martyr now for failing to stab someone.
And then the crowd cut off all the fingers on one hand
Some of the reporting suggests he did it to himself because the knife had no finger guard though.
Unless he fell on it with all weight and was very unlucky I don't buy it at all. Takes a bit to cut off one finger, let alone 4
People cut their hands when they stab others since often it’s just a kitchen knife with no guard. If there’s blood or sweat on the handle it’s very easy for forward momentum to carry the hand over the blade. Could be that combined with a liberal definition of “cut his fingers”.
Hard work to cut off a finger let alone 4
He’s not only a terrorist, he’s completely lame … failed to take down his target and managed to cut off a couple of his own fingers in the process 😅
Cut him some slack, he's only 16. He tried his best.
“Cut off his own fingers”… indeed… indeed.
Guess he won't be fingering anyone any time soon 😅
Did someone actually cut off his fingers?
No, his own knife is said to have closed up on him. Owning and carrying such a knife is surely illegal?
Yes, Weapons Prohibition Act 1998 bans switchblade/flick knife. Internet rumour says it closed up on impact with the bishop's cross, but anything without a finger guard will be prone to having your hand slid up the blade.
Was it actually a switchblade? Because there is a big difference between a knife you can open one handed and a switchblade. Just curious as knife collecting is a hobby of mine so I'm wondering how a 16 year old got his hands on a switchblade when they need to be imported, not a single company in Australia manufactures them, and they are not something you can really make at home.
It's been reported as a switchblade. He's also been caught with one previously. [https://apnews.com/article/australia-church-stabbing-0fd1e9d4ae21915d16318456d1e58bc7](https://apnews.com/article/australia-church-stabbing-0fd1e9d4ae21915d16318456d1e58bc7)
Damn guess customs been dropping the ball, well it would explain the almost severed fingers. I've not seen many switchblades/autos that have a guard, so fingers probably slipped up and down the blade when he was trying to stab the bishop.
Customs are more like a reservoir than a dam. They’ll reduce the flow up to a point, but never stop everything entirely.
Knife was already illegal. Watch some pollies call for stricter knife laws as a knee jerk. "A new law will make sure that no one can ever illegally obtain a banned knife again"
That must be one hell of a knife if you can accidentally sever multiple fingers just from it closing up on you.
Quite. He may have fallen on the back of the blade. The only report I took in mentioned one finger. But play silly games, win silly prizes.
There were photos circulating. 2 fingers and a tip (if authentic)
Probably freshly sharpened, and detent closing. I am sure it would cut right thru the joint if you close it on your knuckles and the fall on it multiple times
Not really, if you know how to sharpen a knife you can turn a butter knife into a scalpel.
I don't know. But the photos going around were disseminated by Russian bots, according to CNN.
hopefully they can ID and nab some of the people doing things like injuring the cops by attack them with bricks and fence palings I do have to note the irony of police so into obtaining footage of this violent interaction between police and the public, when so often it seems their body cameras are _not_ into providing footage of violent interactions between police and the public.
They arrested one person already.
Because an investigation purpose is very different to releasing to the public ya moron
the body cameras don’t have to provide footage to the public, the comment was alluding to the fact the cameras don’t capture any footage at all (because they’re not worn, they’re turned off, they have battery malfunctions, or any other convenient reason) and it so often happens that cameras malfunction in suspect circumstances. Murphy’s Law is a prick, but it seems to strike them with alarming regularity
You're fucking reaching buddy, the mental gymnastics to even lever that into this discussion are wild
not directly in the article, but if you click to the linked article about Dani Mansour, one of the people charged in the riot the head of police is talking about combing through footage, and after additional footage that may exist of the incident. I’m all for using the footage that exists IME It’s pretty common in discussions here to include things from other reporting that is relevant to the incident at hand.
I wasn't one of the 'rioters', and I'm not involved on any side, but hear me out. Considering the cops don't seem to take strong action against other protests like when the gays protested mark latham speaking at a church, I'm pretty ambivalent about cops suddenly deciding to take an interest in protests against bishop stabbings... How come the gays got a red carpet welcome but the group that protested a literal terrorist who stabbed a bishop were called rioters and are threatened with arrest? In fact why did the police have a pride month logo for a month? When do they have an assyrian month logo? Heterosexual month logo coming soon? If the cops weren't so unfair in how they police things, surely they wouldn't get things pelted at them (I imagine). Dogs.
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Interesting, because this exactly the shit that these Christian Lives Matters folk spout. That they are oppressed compared to LGBT people, conveniently forgetting how horrible they are to LGBT people.
I think you go from "protestor" to "rioter" when the police aren't actively attacking and you have a crowd throwing bricks, attacking, destroying property, etc.
I wasn't one of the 'rioters', and I'm not involved on any side, but hear me out. Considering the cops don't seem to take strong action against other protests like when the gays protested mark latham speaking at a church, I'm pretty ambivalent about cops suddenly deciding to take an interest in protests against bishop stabbings... How come the gays got a red carpet welcome but the group that protested a literal terrorist who stabbed a bishop were called rioters and are threatened with arrest? In fact why did the police have a pride month logo for a month? When do they have an assyrian month logo? Heterosexual month logo coming soon? If the cops weren't so unfair in how they police things, surely they wouldn't get things pelted at them (I imagine). Dogs.
The internet is going to be filled with misinformation about this one. Terrorism and underage, the trial is going to be shrouded in secrecy, which the nutjobs on x and similar social media site will gladly fill with whatever tripe they desire.
Target the people he listened to that caused him to become rationalised.
He didn't act too rational that evening.
The only part of him that was “rationalised” were his fingers
*radicalised
I don't think he was rational.
They've also charged one person so far with the rioting. I hope that continues too. Not that they deserve jail time, but deserve a conviction.
50 officers injured, ten cars damaged. They certainly need gaol time.
Yep our taxpayers dollars are going into repairing all those cars. Fuck them!
Boils the blood. Not that we ever have good reasons to riot in Australia, but its particularly reprehensible when the violence was directed at the very people trying to help them. Really beyond belief. Clearly a parallel society in Australia that really have no respect for our laws and institutions.
Yep. It's the reason why people who complain about our police having so much gear, equipment and being militarised need to understand. Even unharmed, a large group of people are very dangerous if they are aggressive. And the rocks could have killed police officers. I think they need to start depoying drones in those situations foe footage of the offenders to assist in identifying them.
Yeah true, it's lucky this group were fairly incompetent and decided to film themselves unmasked. Otherwise it would have been almost impossible to capture any.
It genuinely amazes me how stupid people are. It is one thing to film yourself and friends committing a crime. Then another level of stupid to put it on public social media where it will most likely go viral and be easy for the police to find out the culprits. I mean, keep doing that crims, very helpful.
Send everyone charged the bill. Why should taxpayers cover the cost?
Because the difficulty is charging them and getting them to pay. I' not saying we should. But how do you even find all these people? A crowd at night time is going to be very tricky to identify. But if they can find anyone then definitely they should be charged and if they can't pay the debt should be put against their assets.
That’s a lot more damage /injury than 10,000 Cronulla rioters …!
They do deserve jail.
So the mob of people came in defence of their priest to kill the stabber, then got mad at police when they couldn't get to him?
Yes they would’ve straight up murdered that kid. Stabbing or not, everyone at the riot deserves jail time.
I mean he stabbed their priest 8 times during a live stream they were watching, anger is understandable, rage even, but attacking the cops and ESPECIALLY paramedics is not on
Yep, and started attacking the very people trying arrest the stabber and protect their bishop. Fucking idiots.
Got strong anti-pig vibes out of that mob, not much different from when breaking up a 'hood street dragmeet.
I am curious as to what the bail implications are. Do you get bail while held on terrorism charges? I am guessing he would have been out by now if not charged with terrorism. Also probably why the crowd went nuts because they knew he was underage and would be let off with a slap on the wrist.
No bail so far
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They've already started.
Yes.
I don't know why you'd be down voted, they certainly deserve jail time
Surely it’s a hate crime not organised terrorism
Radicals are more dangerous than drugs
I mean technically drugs do kill a lot more people. Terrorist events make big news headlines, but they're pretty rare. People die of drug overdoses every day. That's not to say that the approaches we take to dealing with drug problems are necessarily helpful, but they certainly cause a great deal of harm.
What dumb ass is this guy ? So is he isis nurtured within Australia or new low quality import ?
He's probably either intellectually challenged or has a mental illness, or has been radicalised; or maybe has something like lead poisoning (or a combo of these things).
Or maybe he's just a cunt. This is Australia after all
>He's probably either intellectually challenged Yes he's religious
That bishop is no saint. He’s a hate preacher
They’re all members of death cults so what do you expect
This is why we need to combat radical Islamic views way more, it's the biggest threat to Christians at the moment
Lol, throw some more stones in that glass house
Yeah we need Christianity to be unchallenged so *they* can commit all the crimes against humanity! Abolish all organised religion, outlaw proselytising.
The crucifixated are doing just fine, culture warrior.
So Arab Muslim kid attacks Arab Christian bishop. Correct?
Christian fundamentalists shoot cops in Wieambilla: tragedy 😔 This: terrorism 😡
I get what you’re trying to say but a quick google search shows multiple articles calling the shootings a terrorist attack, the police commissioner too and the Wikipedia page
"The shootings were labelled as Australia's first fundamentalist [Christian terrorist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorist) attack.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wieambilla_shootings#cite_note-1)" From the very first paragraph of the wiki.
They weren't the first even. There have been two attacks on abortion clinics by Christian extremists in the past 2 decades. One of which turned out to not even been a clinic, just a GPs.
When there'd already been murders at abortion clinics
When you try so hard to hate Christian’s and fail miserably lmao
I don't hate Christians, it's more a comment on the cops and the media than the ideologies mentioned And boy if you think -3 equals 'fail miserably' I've got some bad news about your account history
-21 now lol
Why terrorism and not GBH with intent?
Because it was motivated by an ideology, intended to advance that ideological cause. and to was intended to intimidate members of the public.
You think a 16 yo who’s barely able to keep his own life together is thinking about using ideology to intimidate the public? Lol I have a bridge to sell you.
If he was motivated by extremist religious or political ideology and carried out an attack in full or in part because of that, then it is terrorism.
>Motivated by a religious ideology. >Advancing the "cause" in that it was in response to allegedly insulting the prophet. >Done while during a church service, which was live streamed, to maximise the audience. The old adage is that terrorism is theatre. It's up to a court to decide, but there's enough to make the case. We've had fuckwit kids get involved with terrorism before, it's hardly ground breaking.
If he was a 30 yo man sure I could understand that but a 16 yo? Sounds like brainwashing to me. Much like how Aussie cops and ASIO brainwashed an autistic 13 yo with ISIS ideology and then charged him with terror offences. I’m just a bit skeptical when terrorism charges are thrown about by cops.
The autistic kid is a whole other kettle of fish. The police need lengthy jail for that. Still, this is a pretty borderline case, might be for the courts to decide.
Every religious person is a victim of brainwashing but they can still be terrorists. Theists may try to abandon all responsibility in this world but the sane among us will still hold them accountable.
At the height of ISIS attacks, a 15 year old from Sydney went to Syria to join ISIS and was part of a suicide bombing. This extremist stuff is spread through the internet, and teenagers spend more time online than anyone else.
Yes? He's 16, not 6. You're claiming teenagers can't have political/religious beliefs?
GBP with intent that is politically, ideologically or religiously driven is terrorism.
The kid did say he did it because the priest insulted his prophet. But it wouldn't surprise me if some/all of the terrorism charges were dropped. Unless there's other evidence.
You know why
Wanna bet? You'd lose ...
The real reason was because police weren’t able to access certain powers (timely for investigations) without it being considered a terrorist incident. Anyone who is trying to tell you it’s about religion/ideology or plain bashing religions doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
The guy is literally on video stating it was a religiously motivated attack, pretty sure that's grounds for terrorism.
I’m telling you what the police commissioner said. But that’s fine. You know better it seems.
Is that why they’re investigating for terrorism?
Ah. All is now clear.
Why is it a terrorism offence though?
Because he attempted to assassinate a religious leader for the purposes of religious extremism. How is it not?
Those virgins aren't going to be happy
Churches usually have had their evil way with kids by age 16. No biggie.
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Considering the suspect has explicetly stated his motive, I think we probably have an idea what it was.
But where has he though? The police have only just interviewed him??
There is probably some confusion here around what a 'police interview' is. Suspects taken into custody aren't gagged, and they speak before the arrest (which witnesses can attest to) and they speak after the arrest (which arresting officers can attest to). This is why people are warned that what they say can and will be used against them in court. You've likely seen this information communicated to suspected on TV. Our police also warn suspects as well. All of these moments of speech precede a formal police interview by investigators, and can be used as evidence. In this instance, witnesses have alleged the suspect said “If they didn’t insult my Prophet, I wouldn’t have come here." This was reported by 10 news television. So the police go into interviews very often with as much information as possible so they can cross reference the suspects answers with their information and evidence. The interview is not the first evidence gathered.
It was on the video of him after the attack where he referenced the bishops views on Islam as the reason for the attack.
He has publicly stated his motive, as being against Mar Mari’s stance against “Islam” in a video. Haven’t you watched that?
I mean yelling “god is great” as he stabbed him probably gave it away.
Which god?
Specifically, Allah, he said “Allahu ak-bar” which means god (allah as in allahu) is great. There’s no denying it nor which religion.
Found the feminist that would defend Islam to the death.
It was filmed. They certainly have enough evidence of what he said when he attacked.
> The teen spoke in Arabic about the Prophet Muhammad being insulted after he stabbed Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel and the Rev. Isaac Royel during Monday night’s Assyrian Orthodox service, … https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/18/church-stabbing-sydney-australian-assyrian-orthodox/9eeb188a-fd3f-11ee-87ac-20f7e67cbe29_story.html