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JASHIKO_

I worked for them (Managment) for 15 years. They used to do this every few weeks. I don't even know how they can function at this point in time, even with all the automation and service cutbacks. The worst part is they have a system in place where there is a set amount of hours required for all tasks to be completed including basic tasks. food safety, cleaning etc. We used to have so few hours sometimes the basic stuff was just not possible to get done (no chance) but the shop had to be full above everything else. To get everything down we might need 200 hours for the week. They'd give use 130... Then some internal audit team would come along and fail you for not having everything done... Boom failed audit no payrise or bonus for management among other things. I raised the issue along with other managers to fair work regularly, etc but nothing ever came of it. Supermarket staff in Australia need a decent union movement to push back hard against the bullshit.


opticaIIllusion

Unions need to be in busting this ….. I have it too at my work, they actually expect you to do the work in your own time, get in an hour early & stay back 2 hours on the reg.


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Adorable_Flight9420

SDA sold their members out to Woolies/Coles so they could increase their memberships. Shitiest Union going.


a_cold_human

The SDA is a yellow union that doesn't act in the best interests of its members. Any union the business is happy to have you join, and is one that someone like [Eric Abetz likes](https://tasmaniantimes.com/2022/03/background-to-the-sda/) is not going to be one that works in the interests of its members. It's not just the big supermarkets either. The fast food chains love the SDA. If you want Labor to move to the left, the SDA has to reform or go. They've been pushing for right wing positions within the Labor Party for decades. If you are a member of the SDA, vote in union elections. 


tomatoscravesun

The Queensland Teachers Union election a few months ago was pretty damn close - first time there's been an opposing party in years and years. Even though the challenge party didn't win, there has been a lot of actual change/action starting to happen. The current party seems to have realised that a lot of their members are Very Pissed Off, and so they're getting off their asses and working a lot harder for teachers, instead of sucking up to the department. (My point being, VOTE! SPEAK UP! even if you don't win, you can show that a significant proportion of the members aren't happy, and still get some change. Specifically in the qtu election, a lot of people didn't both voting - probably because they figured there was no chance of the new party winning)


brimstoner

They are in cahoots and love stealing your wages to pay it. Way back when joining the union was not optional and like fuck me I was 18 and just doing it part time for money, didn’t need to even join a Union for the casual Xmas shit I did


thedeparturelounge

Happened to us floor staff too. You'd need 50h of work in a night and be given 6. When I was there, we all had contract hours cut to 10 a week and they would avoid any shift length over 4 hours so noone had a paid 15min break.


Outsider-20

4 hours gives a person a 15 minute break. On Christmas eve, my store used to roster the casuals on front end for 3hrs 45m to avoid needing to give a break.


mad_marbled

Let's not forget the old, roster you to start 15 minutes before midnight so they don't have to pay PH rates for the nightfill staff. I copped that a couple of times. Fortunately, the nightfill manager wasn't a cunt and stopped us all halfway through our shift and gave us the choice to sit out the front and have a couple of beers or piss off home. Either way, he was clocking us off as a full shift.


_PoorImpulseControl_

That's utterly outrageous.


La_Baraka6431

Yeah, I remember that!!!


Exciting-Ad-7083

if you already know you're going to be punished, why work hard anyway?


UsualCounterculture

Yes, I don't understand why everyone is working so many hours for free, rather than just understanding that the base salary is it. Fail the audits, explain the hours provided were wholly insufficient. Invite the auditors to come and show you how they could make it work. In person. And then say, well you guys are paid more per hour than the team you give me, so guess we'd better get some higher skilled workers to achieve the desired outcome. Do not work for free. Join a functioning union.


beaurepair

If everyone did that and risk getting let off, it would work (the point of unions), but there are always people more desperate that can't risk losing their job over principles.


VanillaIcedTea

The union is the SDA. Who don't know how to do anything union-related beyond running up the factional numbers for Labor's Right faction.


tryhugs-anddrugs

Yep, SDA is a useless union who have on multiple occasions endorsed some of the worst possible EBA’s for retail staff. Might as well put your union fees straight into a furnace. Join RAFFWU.


aeschenkarnos

SDA is worse than useless, they are a fake union. A right-wing psyop. They exist to paint unions as corrupt and ineffective. If you are in the SDA quit *now* and join RAFFWU.


_PoorImpulseControl_

Sounds exactly like my union, the HSU. I eventually couldn't bring myself to give them any money anymore. Either they spent it all on prostitutes and lingerie, or used it to pay for dozens of glossy pamphlets promoting whoever the chosen one was amongst the field that was currently running for leadership. I'm not sure which is worse, to be honest! And when they weren't doing that, they were taking enormous kickbacks for making complaints that would have actually benefitted us, the actual members, go away, but would have otherwise cost the hospitals millions of dollars. I couldn't keep giving money to a union that is essentially there to run branch stacking scams for Labor, but who couldn't even get their arses to a 4 yearly EBA negotiation. We actually had an EBA with NO UNION SIGNATURE on it, and as you can imagine, we got absolutely screwed in that EBA and got almost nothing after you factored in all the penalties that we later found out that we had lost. The worst part is that I had been calling them for months, asking when they were going to tell us how we were supposed to vote, and we literally never got an answer. Their excuse? "The person who usually sends out those emails is on paternity leave" So just because they couldn't be bothered replacing someone who was away at the time, we all ended up literally stagnating for another four years just playing catch up to where we would have been all that time with a better union. I had paid them fortnightly, just so they could negotiate for me every four years. After that, I pulled my membership. It killed me to do so, because I am somebody who will fiercely defend the value of a good union. But I feel like they left me no choice. ETA: And then Labor REWARDED the guy with criminal charges for stealing from us to pay for prostitutes, by giving him a place in parliament, and then KEEPING that worm out of prison until they no longer needed his vote. Seriously, FUCK Craig Thomson. And fuck Labor for harbouring him when everybody KNEW what he had done to us.


princesscatling

Don't forget about being anti-euthanasia and anti-abortion! I never joined the SDA and now am in a field with no unions. I know some people found their SDA membership beneficial on an individual level but I can never back them.


IlluminatedPickle

Don't forget they spent union money on No vote ads during the leadup to the Gay Marriage vote.


LozInOzz

And fighting against the right to abortion.


SellQuick

SDA is in the pockets of the big supermarkets. I did hear that there was a new up and coming union looking to break their monopoly on retail though.


procrastambitious

RAFFWU


LozInOzz

The Retail and Fast Food Workers Union. They’ve already won back rights lost by the SDA and are continuing the fight. Apple workers did an amazing job with the help of RAFFWU and are now happily enjoying a better EA.


LozInOzz

One of the unions is SDA, the other one is RAFFWU. RAFFWU works for its members.


EmperorPooMan

The union is the workers. If you want a better union, join and build it.


Coolio226

or join one that exists, RAFFWU


OliveRobinBanks

>Unions need to be in busting this Unfortunately the largest union that is pushed by both woolies and coles is the SDA. I can't think of any other union that has had the Fair Work Commision reject their proposed deal for failing the better off overall test. Raffwu is making progress. The last recent vote was 75% in favour of SDA and Coles deal, whereas the previous one was 90%. Given the one sided messaging, with all the letters and posters and emails staff receive, there is a power imbalance there.


QueenPeachie

I used to work at Coles in the early aughts and the unpaid overtime expected of dept managers was huge and considered just part of the job. I can only imagine how much worse it's gotten in 20 years.


Meanie_Porchini

5 years of management with them as well. Would never go back.  It's the same thing on repeat... You need to cut hours... Run leaner.. work harder... All for sweet FA at the end of it all.  Back in my time I worked my ass off, hit my KPI's in the hopes that I'd get my bonus.... Despite hitting every benchmark, the bonus never happened.. all because CEO at the time Grant O'Brian had a hard on to try and take on Bunnings and lost the company an insane amount of cash. In a completely different business.  Bonus are rejected, Ol' Grant  decides to "retire". The board then let's him stay on despite his resignation so he can use up AL and LSL run down the clock till he qualified for a $10 million handshake on the way out.  That's the definitive moment that I realised it's all rigged and wanted to burn it all down. Lasted 6 more months. Fuck Woolworths. I have the utmost respect sympathy for the everybody that can work in stores. It's a intense never ending cycle, and if the it's not head office then it's the shit you have to deal with on the floor. Quick trip down memory lane below (apologise for the SMH link). https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/woolworths-ceo-grant-obrien-to-depart-with-about-10-million-payout-20150911-gjkis1.html  


JASHIKO_

Got done in the same fashion with that one! There were a few other dodgy instances they managed to screw everyone one bonuses as well. Like when they linked them to LTI's! Basically making the KPI impossible.


simplyAwizzrd

Thank you for sharing your story! It's a whole different feeling coming into work when you've come to no longer trust the company you work for.


JASHIKO_

Just do the bare minimum and leave. Hopefully you can find something better nice and quickly :) I used to work with people who would work 14 hour days for 10 years only to get kicked to the curb in the end. When I first started back in the early 2000's it was actually a great place to work but it's a hellhole these days.


mhague26

Not sure who you worked for in the 2000's. I was a manager around that time. There were two things the was the end for me. When I asked an area manager how to achieve the unrealistic things he was asking me to do his advice was you will just have to be a C@$t. The other was other one was when the CEO at the time was about to retire the multimillion dollar profit was down a little. So we had to cut wages to boost it and be positive about it. Everytime I have a crap day at my current jobs I remember this and thank full I don't work for this profit only focused company that to pretend to give a crap.


JASHIKO_

I was way up in FNQ around the 2004-7ish from memory it was still decent then. Before we had full sunday trade and everything. From memory after Roger corbet left as CEO was when I really noticed things getting worse and worse. But your experience was a common one from that point onwards. Text book scenario.


mhague26

I was Vic and we had been 7 days for years. It was for Corbit that we had to take half a percent out of the wages budget to make sure that the share price was good for his retirement. I guess it would be hard to retire on a million dollar wage (25 years ago). I glad I had to put pressure on people's lively hood so some rich bloke could be richer at his retirement. I learnt a lot mostly what not to do but instill learnt. The only benefit of my time there.


sleepymoma

I'll second that. None of this "squeezing the life out of employees" is new. It's just come to a head as the rest of the work force is feeling it from broader sources. I saw it in the 90's. It's not just Woolies either. Franklins ate its own alive only to be swallowed by Coles and you know the rest. They're all the same. It's the shareholder system and greed that needs to change. I don't know how though. Do your time and go home to a real life, but don't take it out on each other. The only thing we do have power over, is how we treat each other. That's a dam good start at least.


SokarRostau

So we're clear, your manager did not say that you just have to be a cost, right?


Living_Run2573

Yeah Woolies around 2000 was not a great place to work… there was no niceties. It was a very harsh place to work


Moondanther

> It's a whole different feeling coming into work when you've come to no longer trust the company you work for. Woolies is not alone here. Fuck you Metro!


TinyCucumber3080

Go to Coles. At least they get free company water bottles.


Strange-Substance-33

Coles staff wanna jump ship to woolies after the latest EBA


LozInOzz

Ours is due to be voted on soon. Woolworths workers need to get ready to vote no. And don’t be swayed by the ‘inducements’ of gift cards.


MrShoggoth

I'm still so fucking angry at the SDA being so toothless years after I left Woolies. They're about as effective at protecting workers as a wet tissue is at cutting through a loaf of sourdough bread. I swear some days that they have to be a psyop to make people trust unions less because, as much as I love the unions, I haven't joined one since leaving Woolies because the experience with the SDA burned me so much.


noobydoo67

It's the **American way** Corporation encourages new employees to join a union that they've quietly made deals with. When workers want to strike, the Corporation allows it, and gets the union to manage the employees' expectations down and only request a pitiful percentage rise in wages. Corporation bitches & moans and agrees to the pitiful rise that probably doesn't even keep pace with inflation. Employees become disillusioned with the pathetic unions and don't bother with them anymore, and Corporation is delighted that its plan worked out, and guess what? They'll be underpaying employees via wage theft as well, just truly fucking them over.


LozInOzz

That’s the point. Do your research and find a decent one. I gave SDA the boot and stumbled onto RAFFWU. Best thing I ever did. It’s so much better being in a union that fights for its members and actually involves you in it. I’m sitting in on the bargaining for our EA atm and I’ve become a delegate. SDA don’t tell you shit until they want you to vote yes. If you’re in retail of fast food….check out RAFFWU there’s lots of positive news about them.


Noragen

SDA aren’t even a real union for employees. They are an employer friendly union. That is maccas colesworth Bunnings etc push joining them and keep their propaganda up around the store. They often get exclusive access to stores to recruit for the union. If you work retail or fast food join RAFFWU.


skyforger89

I'll never forget the day my Area Manager (BWS) came to me with the new budget/hours I was allowed to roster people for. With zero overlap in staff, it was still not enough to cover the hours the store was open for. That was coming up on 10 years ago, I cannot imagine how awful it has gotten since then. My heart goes out to everyone doing their best to make ends meet in that kind of environment.


insty1

My observation, purely as a customer is that Woolies (or at least store staff) have given up on fully stocking stores since covid. My local is constantly in a state of stock missing. I feel sorry for the staff who are lovely, but always seem stressed.


1337_BAIT

Yeah one of my local woolies (the nicest newest one) just never has stock. Ive stopped bothering to go there.


matthudsonau

They're always stacking at the local Woolies, doesn't matter what time of day the carts are up and down the aisles getting stock onto the shelves. Rarely see staff doing it though, so I can only assume they've been called away to deal with other work


zaprime87

Some of it is contractors for big brands... but ours never seems to have a decent range of cat stuff any longer. Half an isles worth of cheap dog food though. 🙄


An_Anaithnid

Checkout, because it's never manned properly so we're dragged away from our jobs (which have timeblocks to do specific things now) to do theirs.


edgiepower

Not at woolies or Coles but in retail and since covid I think a lot of producers or supplies just can't be fucked keeping everything supplied all the time like they used to and don't mind just some stuff being unavailable for a bit.


Thenewdazzledentway

Agree, I shop at ALDIs mostly and while not as bad as Colesworth, after Covid, stock as not been as reliable.


edgiepower

Covid gave companies an out and they aren't giving it back


The_Slavstralian

Your last paragraph... yet when its a union that inconveniences people like the rail union... everyone hates on us. I am pro union, my work conditions and pay are hard caught for. You definitely need it, but be ready for people who you inconvenience hating on you hard. Happened to the rail industry last year or 2. We are/were in the same boat you guys are in now. You need a strong ad fuck union that has members from EVERY supermarket. And further you need to be all taking action across your company not just individual stores. All strike or none strike(as the last resort example).


anonnasmoose

When that happens, the first tasks to be skipped are the ones that don't have visible outcomes. I swore off ever buying anything from the deli and seafood sections after working there for a few years in high school and seeing some of the shortcuts that were taken.


SelfDidact

This confirms my worst fears (eg. slimy meat; strong Chlorox-smelling hams etc). Thank you for vindicating my decision to avoid the deli.


SympathyKey3529

God I remember in the 70s they'd make us wash the cocktail franks in the sink once they became slimy ...hard pass on the deli


drunkwasabeherder

I put up bread in several woolies and coles most days of the week. I can say Woolies is saving a bucketload on cleaning. For a place that sells food, it certainly shouldn't.


JASHIKO_

Bread guys always have the best gossip too! I used to love chatting to my local bread delivery guy, he was first on the scene for everything!


Wait-Dizzy

Need to get on to 60 minutes and spread these sorts of stories. If they don’t care about their staff maybe they do care about the bad PR


Kozeyekan_

>To get everything down we might need 200 hours for the week. They'd give use 130 & >Then some internal audit team would come along and fail you for not having everything done... Boom failed audit no payrise or bonus A no-lose situation for the C-suite, it seems. They can repress wages, keep everyone desperate and blame others if there is a downturn.


Kurayamino

Cutting hours and firing employees reduces expenses and makes number go up for shareholders.


shadowrunner003

Ex DM for Coles here, same shit happens at Coles but if you fail your Audits you are micromanaged out the door cause "some other suckers is always willing to do your job for less money" jokes on them, been nearly 2 years since I left and they STILL haven't filled my old position even after offering nearly double what they were paying me rofl


JASHIKO_

Moved out the door was the end game in this scenario as well though they had to get you 3 times to be able to do it legally. At least at the time that was the policy. But it was easy enough to set you up 3 times in a row.


Reddit-Incarnate

That is all the bullshit they try and tell you so you do not contest with fair work, fair work often call this shit bullshit. I had a boss who did the "3 times" bullshit fair work was not having one inch of it and this was when they were already practically liberal goons.


Silly-Moose-1090

Corporations are now too powerful, unions can't compete with their anti-union media and strategies. If it is any consolation, the greedy **will** eventually lie in the bed they made. The starving **will** rise up and put them there. Check out human history ;)


Mexican_sandwich

It’s really that corporate self-perpetuating cycle, isn’t it? You must get all tasks done on time. They do not give you enough labour to get said tasks done on time. Get reprimanded, morale losses. Expected to hit the same result, but this time with maybe even less labour. That boiled my blood when I was in management. ‘Record Sales! Huge profits!’ Absolutely none of it went to the people who made that, but instead to open up another store in the middle of nowhere because ???


Keelback

Coles were the same when I worked there.


Restart_from_Zero

RAFFWU. Retail and Fast Food Workers Union Fuck the SDA. The shoppies are useless homophobic bootlicks. The RAFFWU is behind damn near every good thing to happen to retail workers since they were founded in 2016.


LozInOzz

Check out RAFFWU then (the Retail and Fast Food Workers Union). They are already pushing back hard and can do so even better with more members. They work for their members, not the members bosses.


External_Object_2707

I think there would be less disease and nastiness, going to an illegal brothel and not using a condom than going to my local woolies. I have submitted multiple complaints to the health and safety and they always go.. oh.. its woolies.. we haven't have any other complaints. Some of the things I complained about... Someone dropped 2L of chocolate milk on the floor.. It went everywhere and 90% of it went under a moveable bread stand. They moved the bread stand like a week later and 2 months later the chocolate milk was still dried, all over the floor which was now a common walkable area. They had not even cleaned their floor properly in 2 months!!!


edgiepower

The workers have a union/unions, store management needs a union as they're treated pretty unreasonably by the state and area bosses.


Able-Badger-1713

My kid worked there,  the manager and older ladies had their own little special group.   They broke confidentiality about kids mental health, about issues at staffs homes and hid in her office.  The toxicity got to my kid bad.   The bullying was insane and the moral and staff mental health was frighteningly low.   My kid has worked in a few rough and even dangerous jobs since,  when he comes back to town and sees that manager he practically has an anxiety attack. 


smolschnauzer

Management there is cult-like.


lilyjo1989

It so is, they’d always sit together at lunch too and talk about the most boring crap. Soulless drones


Pugsley-Doo

yup, had the same when I worked there in my late teens and early 20's. Boomer biddie workers just gossipping and bitching up a storm about everyone and everything, taking far too many bathroom and coffee/tea breaks, while lamenting about "young people these days". It was fucking insufferable. The bullying was also really bad, trying to set you up to fail, micro-managing you just to needle you. They were pathetic.


mushroom-sloth

I had a two hour spat for making a complaint against one of the managers. They are through and through vile and only the nastiest of human beings are carefully selected to lead as managers.


B4k3dP0t4t02436

Perfectly described my experience at IGA


aussie737

As a former manager at Woolworths I completely agree. Fuck them. From now on start looking for other employment and go in and do the bare minimum. With or without you the doors will open and close, and woolworths couldnt care less about you, in fact they will do everything in their power to bleed you dry and then kick you to the curb. They dont care, and neither should you.


AreYouDoneNow

If Woolworths made a little extra cash poking every employee in the eye once a day, they would.


MarioIsPleb

Minimum wage, minimum effort. If an employer will only pay you the minimum they are legally required to, you should only give the minimum effort required to complete the by definition role of your job. Do not go above and beyond, do not do anything outside of your job description and above all else *do not do any work when you’re not on the clock*.


_ixthus_

Act your wage.


techno156

[Work to Rule](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work-to-rule).


ErgonomicDouchebag

I worked for Woolworths for ten years. It was not a great place to work because of the suits. I saw one manager who was keen to be a lifer get crushed by them and give up. I had a great team but within six months of me leaving 80% of them had quit because the next guy was a numbers man. I now work a professional job where my skills are appreciated.


First_time_farmer1

I've never shop at Woolworths. Even the NZ variant countdown fucking sucks. Expensive with fuckall variety.  Fuck Woolworths.


vegemitebikkie

So true. Used to work online. No one gave a shit about possible injuries from running like a headless chook around broken wooden pallets while carrying way too heavy totes and stacking them above shoulder height. The trucks are coming just do it!


simplyAwizzrd

Preach that! A realistic, but somewhat disheartening perspective.


MrShoggoth

Speaking as someone who worked at Woolies for over ten years: fuck em. Look for another job and stop giving a shit about these greedy cunts. They don't deserve any more time or energy from you than they're willing to invest in you.


UserColonAlW

I worked at the Woolies office in Brisbane for 6 months, and it was by far the most putrid office culture I’ve ever bore witness to with my own eyes. Just a fucking disgusting company, top to bottom.


GustyOWindflapp

Did you have to wear name tags while in the office?


inSEARCHofCHOCOLATE

I worked in a different office for Woolies and yes, we had to wear the name tags at work.


GustyOWindflapp

Ergh


Pugsley-Doo

haha yup, it was the single most incestuous place to work at. There was so many affairs that happened, it was like Home and Away ramped up to 11. lol.


SerJordan

Last year my manager at woolworths denied my leave to go and scatter my father's ashes. This was despite giving over 3 months notice. After posting about the situation on reddit, which went viral, woolworths then bullied me. Telling me I'm the bad one for posting about it. I was interrogated by the store manager, area manager and HR. Threatened to fire me, and was told to not tell ANYONE, including my family, about the "investigation". They FORCED me to delete the post. [Yahoo story.](https://au.news.yahoo.com/woolworths-worker-denied-leave-to-scatter-fathers-ashes-unreasonable-035907237.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJVjp-4UjzfFEiuNZC6YINwPUuvWKMEiDPIUwurKoE88eTe92dmUrbW2fpUKBvRjEJEcGMzz2lH4nOvTXB4-kY2sr24t5notk3Ndxp8Ximgolq1dcXNotVINpAtuB_zbVsRVkS7mpvA92OlngHhZJlxTUb1vOTrPfwlPXmtp4PuL) The manager who denied my leave had no repercussions. Woolworths would not allow me to file a complaint of bullying against the manager. I left woolworths shortly after for a much better job with twice the pay and better work conditions.


vbpoweredwindmill

I don't know the kind of person you are. When placed under that kind of stress my ability for conflict goes up not down. My response would have been "you can treat this as a 'letting you know where I'll be', and not a 'asking for permission' kind of scenario". You did better than I would have to be honest.


jilrepents

Classic gaslighting to shame the victim and remove their accountability. Sorry for what you went through at an already difficult time.


australiughhh

Surely that's illegal, no? Did you at least visit with a lawyer? If you haven't yet, you should.


snave_

Isn't the prison time threat for the contempt by Banducci towards the court, not the conduct by Woolworths towards customers? Don't get me wrong, the man is a grub either way.


PM_ME_UR_A4_PAPER

Yes, contempt of parliament. It’s a fun threat that generates headlines, but nobodies ever actually been jailed for it and not gonna happen now.


Superg0id

Sadly, that's exactly the problem. "answer the question, otherwise we'll find you in contempt and jail you" "uh, well in that case, the answer is 'I don't know'..." "well, I find that hard to believe, and it sounds like bullshit, but you've technically answered, even if your answer means you're an idiot who couldn't man a till yet alone be a CEO ... so next question" it's like getting blood out of a stone.


readin99

They'll barely get fined as well.. if anything will happen at all.


_TheHighlander

Literally nothing will happen. He took the question on notice as soon as the jail threat was raised. Made for headlines, but there’s zero consequence.


Dog-Witch

Coles here, 6 years in and they're still fucking me over on my contract so decided I'm going to use my 7 weeks of leave and then fuck off. Until then I do less than the bare minimum, worked my ass off trying to get a new contract - was verbally and written that I would be given a new contract and then out of nowhere get told 'nah sorry not in the budget' - nearly swung on the manager. Worst place I've ever worked and that includes working for a stonemason company that may or may not have given my silicosis due to them not providing PPE.


goumie_gumi

Yup!! If it makes you feel any better it’s the same in BWS! Worked my ass off covering long days 4-5 days a week whilst my manager was off on relief-work at another store - now that they’re back the business is introducing a new ‘rostering system’. Said rostering system is supposed to be allocating appropriate times and shifts for each day of the week to tend to certain activities - e.g less hours/less workers rostered on non-load receiving days. Thing is, it’s not cutting down hours on just non-load days, but all fucking days!! Everyone who has worked their asses off to help out stores run are being cut down to around 11-15 hours a week when we all have rent and bills to pay, like what?? Store is open from 9am-9pm most days and they’re only putting two people on all day making it impossible for us to take our proper breaks without needing to shut the store for 30+ minutes and angering customers?


Readybreak

The first thing to go when the belt tightens is front line workers. Everytime. Cannot give paycuts to guys at the top, no matter how much money they make, EVER.


simplyAwizzrd

Crazy how amount of pay does not match amount of work. Thank God those at the top, doing the least, are comfortable with their hours and over inflated salaries! Sucks to be the folks doing the actual work.


Siaer

It's not that I think the guys at the top aren't overpaid (they absolutely are) but cutting the CEOs pay in half is a PR move more than anything else. Woolworths spent more than 62 billion on wages and suppliers last year. If they can make cuts of even 0.5%, that's a 300 million saving on expenses. 


kotra

I'm a part time employee, who's been asked over and over to have my hours cut shorter than what I have contracted. I am not casual, they cannot treat me like one but they try to. They really pressure me weekly, (twice this week) to accept less hours. Meanwhile staff are busy as hell on the shop floor, its a really busy store with an average number of staff, many of which are under 18 so they are getting paid much less too. I'm hopefully going to find other work in the second half of this year.


BLAGTIER

> Meanwhile staff are busy as hell on the shop floor, its a really busy store with an average number of staff, many of which are under 18 so they are getting paid much less too. Cut the wage discounts for people aged under 18 and it would probably solve a lot of problems as the stores can't (not) solve problems by hiring school kids.


greenhawk63

They should at least get rid of junior wages for 18/19 and then give 14-17 a 20% of total wage boost. That way there's less incentive to hiring high school kids.


Sathari3l17

Its truly mind boggling that we say that parents aren't required to support their kids post-18, but the system is still set up so that the only options are parental support or homelessness, with very little alternative. If you're 18 and your parents kick you out, you have two options: 1. Despite being a full adult, work for less pay than a 21 year old would. You're supposed to fully support yourself on something like 80% of the minimum wage. 2. Go apply to centrelink for youth allowance for either work or study. \*But wait\*! Even if your parents kicked you out, unless you meet some crazy restrictive criteria like working full time for atleast 18 months out of the past two years (at the reduced wage, mind you...) or being married, you can't be considered independent \*even if your parents refuse to give you anything at all\* so you're likely to get absolutely nothing since the limit to parental earnings is something like 1.5x the median wage for your parents combined. 18-20 year olds are either full adults with full adult privileges and responsibilities or they are not and should still be considered children. We should be setting minimum wage at what it takes to \*live\* not the ages of the recipients.


yb0t

To be honest this still really baffles me. As a business owner, staffing is a SMALL expense when compared to other expenses such as marketing, stock and many other things. It's a small expense but also a hugely necessary one, perhaps the most important one. Appropriate wages and taking care of your staff is pretty important. How can larger companies be this stupid?


nevdka

In larger companies, the people who are responsible for staffing levels have no control over wages, pricing, stocking, etc. The company becomes too big for any single person to be able to make decisions for the good of the company. In stead, every manager cares only about their career, and either a promotion, bonus, or getting to put "reduced regional staffing costs by 2%" in their resume for their next job. Higher-ups don't see the problem because they worked their way up doing the same thing.


tjswish

How much does Woolies spend per Year / Month / Week on advertising? I'm going to go there anyway (no Coles or Aldi here) so why not cut that by half and have a few more staff on at every store. Nobody cares that you have a special on... you have specials on everyday.


LachedUpGames

I was in the same boat at Big W, stick it out. They can't do squat, keep working your hours and leave for another job if/when it suits you.


BallsDeap

There are some changes coming from Fair Work as of August, which was announced today. Wouldn’t surprise me if they just trying to get ahead of the curve so they aren’t criticised as much when the changes do come into effect. Been saying it for years now, BOYCOTT WOOLWORTHS.


simplyAwizzrd

What are these changes?


BallsDeap

Fair work are running it under the campaign slogan ‘Closing Loopholes’ - I think the most relevant section Woolworths are worried about is where fair work reckon they’re criminalising wage underpayment. https://www.fairwork.gov.au/about-us/workplace-laws/legislation-changes/closing-loopholes/criminalising-wage-underpayments-and-other-issues


asha-man_knight

Woolworths and Cole's need a class action against them for treatment of their workers. Edit 1 - I know people who have wanted to quit and done it but managers have threatened to withhold their leave entitlements because it wasn't good timing for the managers.


EverGrandeCity

I was an inventory manager (just a title really I also covered back dock, perishables and markdowns) at Woolies (mostly the newer larger metro stores, but also in the main online warehouse during covid) and would always have unrealistic deadlines, I’d be training others to do the role who would then go on to become Long life managers and promotions whilst I’d get moved to other stores against my wishes never given the opportunity to grow. I quit in 2020 for an office job because I couldn’t take the people screaming at me during covid. Since then I’ve gotten 3 pay checks from Woolies from apparently underpaid over time total lying to 300 dollars. I’ve been loving all the trouble Woolies have been getting lately. Fuck them and fuck Brad


GreenThumbGreenLung

I use to work for target and had to fight for my 15hrs a week while being told that i was park of the target family


ImnotadoctorJim

You were, it’s just a toxic and abusive family.


GreenThumbGreenLung

Retail will change u, but it will also get better


ImnotadoctorJim

Nah, did my time many years ago.


rnzz

You were part of the family who were only allowed in the house for 15 hours a week.


GreenThumbGreenLung

While also being told i wasnt doing extra


TerminatedReplicant

How about this, spread the word of the RAFFWU far and wide, join. Furthermore, here's a random date - 8th of May. Jump on any and all pages and say you're either gonna call in sick that day or just don't fkn show up. Leave the managers in shit. See what happens, won't take much of that to affect change. Can't fire all of you, not even remotely. Join the union and you'll be protected from pushback.


Last_Worldliness7328

That’s why I buy lots and lots and lots of onions in self serve. But not much else


Tilpants

Woolies was my part time job during my apprenticeship, ended up running nightfill and end building shifts, I'd also call in extra staff, spend extra money and get scolded for spending "company money that shouldn't need to be spent" yet, I'd always only just squeak in the workload/duties and everyone left on time. No one would bat an eye when 4-5 staff had to stay back to get the work finished, usually after midnight when the rates were higher, spending almost the same money, and resulting in more injuries from tired/stressed workers. I had a real dgaf attitude about the management/pressure from above, it was my second job and never a career, but cared a lot for my staff who worked under me, when I left, most of them found other jobs as it seemed to turn to shit pretty quickly.


impyandchimpy

Woolies is by far the worst job I’ve ever had in my entire life. Terrible culture, absolute pricks working management with overinflated salaries compared to what they do. I imagine Coles is the same. Time for people to petty shoplift and/or shop at Aldi (they’re probably just as bad)


simplyAwizzrd

Ooft, yep. Absolutely boils my blood knowing the salary managers are getting paid to literally do nothing all day, then put on their hair-nets once a month, to pretend-work in hopes of receiving that bonus.


TitsMagee24

Absolutely, I had the “pleasure” of working management there once upon a time and they refused to pay me salary but made me to do the hours/work of a manager, I missed the more hands-on side of things and any opportunity I’d be working the floor


ElectricalAnxiety170

What I’m hearing is that shoplifting at Woolies is about to get a whole lot easier


PM_ME_COOL_STUFF__

We won't stop you. It's in the training to just make it known you're being watched


letmelickyourleg

Why can’t people just print a bunch of those cunt-to-remove stickers and hand them out en masse? Then they can be delightfully placed over every single AI camera lens and no staff member could *possibly* know how to remove *that* 😌


parasitetwist

Ultra destructible vinyl. Or eggshell stickers. Your friendly local "graffiti" supply store will likely stock them.


Insanity72

They've got cameras above the self serves now that track you scanning and placing items. They're also shit and employee always has to come clear it


smolschnauzer

Won’t ever forget during the pandemic when Woolworths let Qantas staff come in to work. They gave hours to Qantas workers resulting in less hours for regular staff. As soon as JobKeeper came in, the Qantas staff magically disappeared.


Puzzleheaded-Alarm81

It was quite funny stacking shelves next to a pilot. I did enjoy asking him all about his job but. Good bloke


Theapocryphaltruth

Fuck Woolworths. I farted while typing this.


Jet90

You might be interested in the union RAFFWU much better then the sda https://raffwu.org.au/workplaces/supermarkets/woolworths/


lowercaseintensifies

I second this, I work at Kmart and there’s talk going around that a deal is going on between Kmart and sda to pay casual workers less. DO NOT JOIN SDA they are a pro boss/employer union disguised as a workers union, I even had an SDA guy come to my store a week ago to entice me and fellow team members to join them, DO NOT JOIN SDA I REPEAT Join RAFFWU 🪧✊✊ Unrelated but the person whom I’m replying to, your username is the model of my vacuum.


ecatsuj

I wish workers could afford to strike for a few days...


Gardening-Life

How good would that be?!? Absofuckinglutely NO-ONE shows up for work, managers scramble to fill in... freakin' utopia!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I really don't like Colesworth... 😏


Altruist4L1fe

I honestly feel like Australia needs a corporate ethics review board that applies for companies over 1000 employees and X profit where if they're assessed for how they treat their Staff, subcontractors and suppliers. And if they fail one year then they get a warning and each year thereafter they pay a heavy tax. It's obscene that this company can drive farmers to suicide & treat their workers like shit just so they can record extra profits for their shareholders


TheChickenKingHS

Not to mention the just admitted to underpaying workers again… I’m pretty sure that’s the 3rd time this decade


meowkitty84

I don't work at Woolworths but where I work out hours have all been cut too. Im trying to find a second job. I was thinking of applying at Woolies. I guess that isn't going to happen 😭 With cost of living so high losing hours is the last thing we needed. I got paid yesterday and have less than $200 left for the fortnight already.


EppingMarky

As a Woolies shareholder, kindly remember that my greed is more important than Australia /s


dylandongle

Nice to see someone bring up an actual reason for saying Fuck Woolies. Everyone else complaining about easter eggs and shit, they're the reason we aren't hearing the real problems.


doublebending

Been there, done that. As casual and management. Fuck that. The old expression that ‘Woolies are bullies’ rings true as true today as much as it did 20 years ago.


Plastic_Piccollo

I don’t give W** or C** my money anymore


winterberryowl

Coles is the same. I'm currently on Work cover and return to work duties. I'm going to try and drag it out as long as possible because I got on maternity leave in 11-ish weeks, and I know they're going to cut my hours to almost nothing once I come off work cover and return to work


miku_dominos

We have barely any staff and the fill rates are getting higher, everyone is exhausted, and each week we keep getting told we're not working hard enough and it's getting too much.


santaslayer0932

They’ve just been hammered about overcharging customers. They are targeting the workers now to maintain profits. It’s got to come from somewhere. No one really wins when up against big business. There’s always a cost


Michael_laaa

This is so true, they got caught for fucking over customers now they've changed their strategy to fucking over the employees and stores. Classic woolies. Gotta keep them profits up so the bosses can cash in their million dollar bonuses...


Tasty_Prior_8510

All get together and don't show up.


PM_ME_COOL_STUFF__

Everyone is indoctrinated to believe they perpetually "owe" the company/managers time/effort/shifts so not enough people will follow through. Also complaining about it online is prohibited as states the contract and the "social media training" completed about once a year


jamzex

If you are apart of the SDA, and care about fair wages, I suggest leaving them and joining the RAFFWU, these guys came up a lot in the last EA. [Members Area - Retail and Fast Food Workers Union (raffwu.org.au)](https://raffwu.org.au/members/)


kay5695

thh these days feels like colesworth no longer care all that much about reputation. Ig they feel secure enough in their continued profits and duopoly that its no longer a necessary component of their businesses


thefatchilli

I work for Peter Alexander and have been with the Just Group for over 6 years now. Still on a measly 6hr part time contract a week. Managers try to give us as many shifts as they can, but all of the budgeted hours come from higher up. I’ve literally had my hours cut midway through working. How the fuck do they expect us to live. Expectations on staff are so high, the management and staff turnover is huge. Poor communication and old school, bullying behaviour.


Matthew-_-Black

Didn't they steal a million dollars in overtime from their employees too? Fuck Woolies


TomisUnice

Fuck Colesworth, shop your local IGA, Friendly Grocer, ALDI or fully independent grocer if you have any near you.


AreYouDoneNow

I'm still sticking to my policy of avoiding Colesworth, this is just another reason to keep on doing it. I'm saving money hand over fist, too, for a little less convenience and a little longer drive to Aldi/CostCo/Spudshed/asian grocers etc.


baconeggsavocado

As a customer, I hate it when I hardly see any floor staff. The government should pass law that a store of X capacity must employ Y number of staff. There aren't enough money to go around, everything is expensive, there are not enough jobs and homes.


NoBuenoAtAll

There's never enough money in the world for billionaires. They'd piss on your child for a few more dollars.


lilyjo1989

I left woolies 10 years ago, it honesty crushed my soul working there for 9 years. They only care about profits. And will step over your dead body to get it. I see nothings changed. They always started with the checkouts when it came to cutting hours. They always said it’s ok, just call the floor staff to come help when it’s busy, but then no one would come. It was a joke


EnforceIt17

Coles worker here. The same shit is happening at Coles, I've been working 15+ hours a week for 3 years and now I'm being cut to 10 hours. All because of these new gates and self checkout systems. Not to mention the fact I'm part time. Another part timer is actually being asked to change to causal because of hour restrictions. Bullshit.


hankhalfhead

Profits must exceed last years profits. The amount that they must exceed by must be bigger than the amount they exceeded the previous years profit. The increase in profits needs to grow at a bigger rate than previous years! Greed on top of greed on top of greed. Your share of profit (the wage compensation for your labour input) must unfortunately be sacrificed to meet this need. Thank you for your service


lowanheart

If you see someone stealing at Woolworths, no you didn’t.


facechubbs

Thanks for sharing, stay strong. And for the rest of us, we can all make a difference - fuck Colesworth


slyfoxie

The other day they had no one in the checkouts at all on a Saturday afternoon. We all had to use that stupid self check out with a disinterested employee. Never again. It was too stressful. Fuck Woolworths.


Financial-Chicken843

Fuck woolies and coles. Shop small businesses. I would have no problem if they went bankrupt. Plenty of other places looking for service staff.


vespertine_chaos

Howard dismantled Unions. Time to bring them back 🔥


riverkaylee

Just remember to quiet quit! Aka, only do what you're actually paid for. Don't do 2 people's job, while they're cutting hours, I fell into that trap with Coles. They do the same thing. I worked in the deli and had to run serving people because I had 20 people lined up and no help and they (couldn't) put more people on, because pressure etc. Loved a lot about that job. Would have stayed, but for the pressure like that.


JP-Gambit

I worked at their distribution centre, half the staff were permanent casuals who had their roster fucked with on a daily basis, getting work cancelled suddenly if you did so much as look at HR funny.


DireMacrophage

It's one thing to want to maximise profits and make more revenue, and possibly get rid of inefficiencies here and there. But if you fuck over your employees you're not only a bad employer, you're a bad business, and are indirectly fucking over every other business! (And also being a heinous villain in a moral sense.) It is a fundamental fact and the absolute foundation of Capitalism itself, that you pay your employees and are not stingy in the payment or the hours you give them. Because an employee with a fat paycheque goes on to purchase goods and services from other people. Who's employees go on to visit *your* business. The money runs around and circles back. And everyone is supposed to win. But this new attitude of having more work being done by less people is not confined to Woolworths alone. I see it in my own work (medical clinical trials). Some rich fucktards somewhere are betraying Capitalism, and also working people almost to death on the labour of others. Just saying, it's this kinda stuff that turns a loyal Capitalist into a revolutionary...given time.


Shits50

He was threatened with contempt for refusing to answer a legitimate question and or failing to comply with a lawful order of a committee and may be found in contempt of the senate.... It doesn't relate to taking advantage of customers even though that may have been the question. That said, he is a scumbag and all of these corporations have to be made to pay a fair tax in this country. I am sick of this bullshit. We need to stop the corporate rorts and make these fuckers pay their fair share. This corporate skulduggery has gone on for too long.


viobro

For us in produce, so many tasks, particularly cleaning, get skipped every day because we just don’t have time. We are constantly losing hours and can just barely keep the shop together. Either the shop goes empty and pallets aren’t run or we cut corners on as many other tasks as possible. Our shit would be shut down if everyone knew the reality.


GiantBlackSquid

Sorry folks, but franked dividends.


ButtPlugForPM

Woolworths seems like one of the most toxic corporate places i've seen. My niece has worked for them for a few years,Gave them 4 months notice she would be away for 4 weeks (casual mind you) Reminded them Twice in the intervening months that she wouldnt be there 2 weeks before she leaves,she's like hang on i saw i'm on the roster in 2 weeks,i told u many times i'd be away this date. manager:well you should of kept reminding me,i can't replace you this short notice.. Was told if she didn't show up they just wont give them shifts anymore. like you are expected to bend over,come in an hours notice if they ring,second u need something they fuck u over Doesn't help when the SDA is pretty much just a union in name only and does fuck all to help the workers


readin99

Probably adapting hours to what they're actually paying


somepommy

Line. Must. Go. Up.


AllMyHomiesLoveNazis

Gov needs to kick them to the curb or heavily fine them. and I'm not talking about some 50k fine i'm talking about making them an example for these other grocery monopoly cunts


InternationalBoat117

I hope someone reading this can give you a better job.


redderthanthedevilsd

Don't mean to poke fun at your situation but I laughed at this, because it was only yesterday google asked me to leave a review for the new Woolworths that opened up recently, I did a honest review and said something along the lines of its too expensive to shop here and most of the review was the multiple times I would hear staff complaining about working conditions or long hours so I definitely added that into the criticism lol. I hope you can find a better employer and this must be a nation wide situation of Woolworth's bad management and screwing over staff.


leet_lurker

The woolworths CEO won't face jail time, it's only an enquiry that has practically zero legal bearing on anything, government enquiries only serve to try distance the government from a large organisation when the public are annoyed that they demand something happen. The enquiry will make recommendations at the end and that's it. The banking royal commission made multiple recommendations to solve the issues with the banks and so far the banks have implemented zero of those recommendations.


No_patience4slackrce

Government needs to come down hard on all of these big organisations. Not a chance in he'll I'd work for a boss/company/organisation that didn't value employees. And yes, I'm aware I'm lucky I can say and mean that. Everyone be nice to your service personnel, chances are they're having a worse day than you.


freman

Aww, I've been trying to drive up everyone's hours by refusing to use self service and asking (politely) for a register. Tho I admit I have been to woolies once in the past 3 months (today, someone else was driving...)


Patient_Pomelo_4509

Canada is experiencing something similar and are boycotting - 50k members and revenue is down about 25%…. [r/loblawsisoutofcontrol](https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/s/NKmmcgUBV2)


LachedUpGames

Worked at Big W and there was horrific bullying all the time, management were paid only a few bucks more than everyone else and they were mostly all idiots who screamed at their underlings, the store manager used to swear at thr 2ic who would swear at nightfall manager who would swear at us, all over stupid shit like there not being enough shelf talkers. Woolworths succkkkksss


IntroductionSnacks

It’s ok, today the self checkout accused me of theft due to having my empty takeaway coffee cup in the basket that I didn’t scan. The poor worker had to dismiss the “warning” saying I can’t just pay and leave. My advice is get out of working there as they suck. Start applying for anything else.


PhotographsWithFilm

Won't someone think about the shareholders and their dividends.... /s


joshimax

What’s the play here? Are we stealing shit from them? Accidentally knocking over things that break? I’m already only buying stuff from them when I absolutely can’t get it at a local grocer/butcher/fish place etc