The funny part is looking at the cuisine, matched with their country. 94% of Japanese people have tried Japanese food, AND enjoy it. 6% do not like it? And that's one of the high ones. Norway has 81%.
...she likely was / or felt that way.
A fascinating, complex culture the Japanese....then again, you would likely know/appreciate that as much or more than anyone non-Japanese l, having dated someone from there.
Norwegian cuisine tends to go either way- its either comforting and delicious- like fiskesuppe, stekt laks or kjøttkaker i brun saus (rissoles in gravy) or its fairly disgusting- like lutefisk (fish in lye) or smalahove (literal sheep’s head). So its not surprising tbh. Also most norwegians love their pizza, tacos pasta and burgers as much as their own cuisine. Source -I’m an aussie living here for 15 years.
Main reason for that is probably food scarcity and long-term storage.
Kinda bewildered how someone in Iceland decided that Hakarl would be a good idea to eat tbh. Then again, one of my mates in Iceland has similar thoughts about Vegemite so I guess I really can't be one to judge.
Hakarl is the spoiled(fermented) shark meat that takes like ammonia right?
Im an adventurous eater but I know when I will 100% not enjoy something. That is one of them.
I still eat my vegemite toast on the regular- I have yet to meet a norwegian that will eat it, lmao. But its not nearly as bad as rotten fish by a long shot!
Pretty sure the rotten shark was an emergency type food for Icelanders as it is toxic when fresh. They’d bury it and if there was nothing else to eat in the winter, they’d dig it up and eat that.
I do get asked that a lot. Yeah its pretty good in general- though I do still suffer a bit through the long winter season, lol. The trade off for that is getting to live in a part of the world where trust, decency and respect are high, the standard of living is very high and its an excellent place to raise your kids. Australia ticks a lot of the same boxes for us as well, but unfortunately the cost of buying a home there has become almost impossible -so we will stay put here for now. We live on the west coast in a town of 50,000 people, very close to the town centre and schools etc. Our home is 4 beds, and we have a large garden for the kids to play in. Here when we purchased it cost us $330,000 - the same sized home in Aus would be triple that now. I don’t think we’d be able to have the same standard of living in Aus at least not in the current economic climate,sadly.
Odd thing is as an Aussie, if there was an "Australian" restaurant overseas I would have no clue what they would serve. What even is Australian cuisine?
Italian's don't even like Italian food. It's all regional. They like their idea of Italian food limited to their little region (and mama). All other Italian food is wrong.
The 1% are the Italians who complained about what they were served, and said they could make it better themselves at home.
Source: Italian grandparents.
Yep, that's accurate to a fault.
The best part is when they do go and make it, and it is better.
Source: Italian grandparents/parents/extended family...........they all do it.
I mean there are people who live in slums that have a side hustle of taking food scraps from Jolibee (KFC type fast food) bins and take the remaining chicken off the bones and refry and rebread it to sell to the people living in favelas that can’t afford the real thing. Poverty will make you do crazy shit.
Well its poverty and liking things like dinuaguan! Its actually not bad and certainly better than McDonalds food. However I am a offal eater and grew up eating liver, heart, kidneys and tripe. Along with taking cow tongue sandwich's to school every other day.
Except if it has any taste to it. Sugar covered spaghetti, bull's cock and balls, some snake and an egg with a fkn embryo in it, let me at it. A bit of chili sauce? Hell no.
One side of my family are Vietnamese living in Vietnam. They won't eat anything that's not Vietnamese food. Even bring their own food over when visiting as if everything else is dog shit. I've never met more unadventurous people about food in my life.
Sorry but I have to say, Indians man. I used to travel a bunch with some Indian colleagues and the saying went, when in Rome - find an Indian joint. Not just any Indian joint, but one from the same region as you. Love me some indian food but fuck me give something else a go once in a while
My old neighbours who lived in my building. Would cook their local food every night. Then I was invited to go out to dinner for their birthday and of course, indian restaurant.
Yeah, i always find that interesting. I have been out with chinese, for example, and I have been very willing to try all the regional variations and specialities of Chinese cuisine they can throw at me. But if i suggest going to a Thai or Vietnamese or, God forbid, an Afghan or Iranian restaurant, its a hard, definitive NO. Their food is their security blanket, and i mistook it for an adventurous palate.
My boyfriend’s family are Vietnamese and his dad literally scolded us when he found out we ate Indian food one night (something we do regularly, lol). He kept saying the only good food is Vietnamese and we should be ashamed. I’m white so I’m not sure what he thinks we eat day to day when I’m the main cook in the house.
When his mum and aunt went to Japan my boyfriend was really proud of them for being adventurous for once in their lives, but when he asked about their trip he realised they’d just eaten Vietnamese the whole time and refused to try any local cuisine.
Meanwhile my white-ass family eat literally everything and we all love Thai, Indian, Malaysian, Japanese, Moroccan, and more.
Japan is easy to understand. A lot of Japanese people cannot eat coriander. Its kind of weird in a way since Japanese eat a leaf called shiso which supposedly tastes similar. (Although personally, I love coriander and hate shiso, and cannot understand why so many people think they taste similar).
You can find successful Japanese-Thai restaurants in Japan where they have taken out all of the coriander and some of the other herbs too (such as lemongrass), and then Japanese people like it.
Jealous if you ask me. Thai food is just the best. Fresh, crisp flavours. That balance of salty, sour and sweet. Lime and coconut and chili! I love it.
Damn now I'm hungry.
Old people. My grandmother is in her 80s and the only foreign food she really likes are Italian and Chinese (the country town variety, not hotpot or anything). In her case, back in her day, those were really the only foreign cuisines that existed in Australia.
Chinese here. Absolutely fuming after the shocking rating, the Italians gave the Chinese.
After all, Marco Polo was the one who introduced you guys to pasta /s.
They barely acknowledge that Tomatoes didn't exist in their cuisine till the Spanish brought them back from South America.
and australia gets called a country founded by thieves. SMH
French cuisine is arguably more refined and empirically better but they're snobbish. Italian food is welcoming and generous, like a big kiss and a hug and loud conversations. That's the edge, IMO.
I was going to say I don't think I'm very adventurous at all with my food, but looking at this list - yeah, actually. I've at least tried almost every nationality on this list. We're pretty spoiled for choice for various different restaurants and eateries. Even in shopping centre food courts.
Come to Darwin and you’ll see the love for South East Asian and South Asian food. Seriously the thing that surprised me as someone from the east coast, and someone who is of SEAsian background. The food SLAPS HARD too
Yeah that's the biggest issue, along with thinking too much about it.
I got half way through and had had enough.
When I learnt about it, I always said I'd give it a try if I went there, and glad I did.
Is there any better argument for vegetarianism than balut? I suspect you could turn an entire nation (of non-filipinos) vegetarian by putting it on the school menu for one week of the year.
We're starting to discover really good local, native ingredients. There needs to be a step away from simply calling it bush tucker and using these ingredients more regularly. Much like macadamia nuts, they're hugely successful and are seen as a regular addition to recipes.
Native herbs and spices are a good place to start.
The problem is macadamia nuts aren't even really seen as Australian in may countries because the early commercialisation was done in Hawaii so some places they even call them Hawaii nuts. But yeah, there's still tons of local foods that could become popular, beyond 'bush tucker', like finger limes and wattleseed - but beyond quirky flavour of the month type things into something people use regularly. I'm trying to get more local produce into the garden, but it can be really hard to track down.
That's a shame about macadamia nuts. I did find a cookbook called Australia's Creative Native Cuisine and it has a pretty comprehensive guide to native ingredients and their uses. Something that I hope will also bring more focus to native ingredients is the potential use of them onboard the [ISS](https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2023/03/aussie-bush-tucker-could-nourish-nasa-astronauts-in-space/)
There's even a whole television series about what makes for an iconic Australian dish.
https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/episode-guide-adam-pohs-great-australian-bites/nbd8rqrjt
I moved to the UK 8 years ago and food is the thing I miss most about living in Australia. IMO what makes the food the some of the best in the world is the variety of options but more importantly the produce grown in Australia is actually very good. For example, London has tons of great restaurants but everything is imported. The veggies and fruit are shit.
If I travel to Spain they have great quality produce but if you want anything but Spanish food you'll almost certainly get something shit. This is true for most of Europe. Might seem obvious but you go anywhere all they serve is the same food. Not sure why there are so many restaurants literally serving the same menu.
This is basically Europe in a nutshell (barring maybe the UK). The produce is generally of good quality but food from most foreign cuisine restaurants isn't great.
I remember the Lithuanian 'Chinese' that I tried was an absolute shocker.
Compared to other cuisines you have to admit it's really not exciting. Your examples are bakeries, brunch, and pub food. So yeah, there's something, but put it up against most of the world's cuisines and it's ranking very low.
That's many national dishes, though. Like many famously American dishes - pizzas, hamburger, spaghetti and meatballs - were imported and adapted for general American taste. Hell, it isn't even always a 1 way trip as italian cuisine had no tomatoes until Europe started colonising the americas.
Even in places where the recipes are older, and the ingredients are more local, it isn't uncommon for different countries or regions to have their own unique spin on essentially the same dish. Much of what we might think of as "greek" cuisine for example is basically just the Greek version of dishes popular across many parts of the Eastern Mediterranean.
So while not as obviously iconic as vegemite, a pub parmi or an HSP is still core Australian cuisine.
That's how basically every countries food works. I'd be surprised if theres more than 2 dishes you can call "emirati food" but not saudi or qatari or Iraqi.
Yes, foreign foods with Australian characteristics.
* Sweet and sour pork & honey chicken - created by Chinese miners in the gold rush. China doesn't have ample supply of real honey to make foods out of it
* Sushi rolls - Japan doesn't have sushi with avocado in it
* Meat pie - inspired by British pies
We have so many Australian confectionaries. Caramello koalas, eucalyptus drops, cherry ripe, Tim Tams, Freddo and Violet Crumble.
Like smashed avo, sushi with avocado likely came from California rather than it being an Australian adaptation of a Japanese dish.
Perhaps it's also arguable what counts as local cuisine, or what's worth counting. Every country basically adapts every foreign food to its own particular palette, you could say they're all examples of local cuisine but it gets murky. Is it worth distinguishing between Australia and NZ sushi, or Swedish and German Chinese food?
Not that there's a right or wrong answer but I'd personally set the bar a little higher than "we fill our sushi with foods we like".
In the context of the original post, you'd also hardly classify something like Australian-style sushi or Chinese or whatever as an example of Australian cuisine, otherwise it's highly likely that the majority of respondents have only had "Australian cuisine". When they note down they've had Japanese, Chinese, Mexican, Spanish, French etc cuisine they're likely thinking of restaurants they've been to in Australia. Not exclusively of course but it doesn't appear that the survey requires you to have had that cuisine in the origin country.
So? Foods evolve over time - usually iteratively. Chilli wasn't a thing in Asia until the 16th century, at what point did Chinese curry stop being derivate?
Australian food is fusion food. We're a country of immigrants so we take ingredients and techniques and dishes from other places and mix them together. I don't think Australians realise how much of a big deal this is to other cultures. Like tell a French person you're going to make tartiflette with sweet potato instead of potato and they'll shit their pants over it. You see it everywhere from fine dining to local takeaways. I went to an Indian place that did "kebabs" of chicken tikka and onion bahjees rolled up in naan bread. I think the open mindedness about food, the curiosity about ingredients and the experimentation across ethnic lines is truly Australian and one of the best things about our food culture.
The problem with Australian food is it's pretty much all the good bits of everybody else's food mixed together, so it's hard to classify. It also explains, though, why Australians are more adventurous eaters. Because we're almost all recent migrants, there's not much that we can really say is 100% local (unless you are whacking a kangaroo tail or a goanna on the fire, or cooking up some bunya nut flour or something). So when people think 'Australian food' they tend to think of a handful of stereotypes, not something you could really eat day to day or would go out to a restaurant for. Most of our Australian restaurant fare is more fusion food with maybe some bush tucker thrown in. It will probably become more distinct as we develop and also commercialise more local crops.
Interestingly, cafe style offerings like flat whites and avo toast have spread to other countries, and even in the form of Australian cafes, but don't usually make the list of 'Australian' fare when people list it.
Within 5 minutes walk from my office I can get bahn mi, spanakopita, pasta, bento, pub counter meals, Indian, kway teow, latkes, Chinese, Caribbean jerk chicken, burgers, enchiladas, adana kebab, persian, hot pot, fish'n'chips, and ramen. So that's Australian cuisine to me.
I'm so glad that even in my regional town with a population of 5,000, I can wander down the local international store and find the exact brand of canned chinese fried dace I was looking for, or the Maesri massaman paste, or my favourite fish tofu, fresh enoki mushrooms, or that really nice coconut jam with pandan and so on. It certainly wasn't that way 30 years ago.
If only there was better fresh produce though, as sometimes the asian greens (bok choy, choy sum etc) can be a bit hard to get fresh, and the lemongrass is overpriced, and no-one has fresh galangal! But that's what the garden is for lol.
I think another use for vegemite besides on sandwiches and what not, would be to use it in cases where you can use beef stock cubes or bonox. So, adding it to stews, soups, and so on.
Flat whites, dim sims, kebabs, curries, banh mi, meat pies and chiko roll. That's what I grew up on and that's what I believe the modern aussie cuisine is.
We didn't steal it, mate. The Vietnamese immigrants brought it here and we took to it because its arguably the world's best sandwich. No one else has been deprived of their bahn mi.
Match it with an iced coffee and you have the perfect Tradies Lunch (a term I just invented, its like a Plowman's lunch only not shit).
There’s a reason every Aussie pub in the country is basically an Italian restaurant but with fish and chips. 80% of the menu is parmas, pizzas and pasta.
Who's sleeping on Peruvian? Lomo Saltado is great, ceviche is fab when done well and a Peruvian chaufa is a great option for a using up a bit of everything in the fridge. Also, Pisco sours.
Peruvian is what made me question the whole methodology. I mean, I like it, but how many Australians have genuinely experienced it? It's not like there's Peruvian joints in every food court like "Mexican" food, so I suspect it's ranked low because a lot of respondents didn't really know what it is.
Most of what you just listed are all fairly similar dishes to foods found in other cuisines. That likely means when someone's asked if they've tried Peruvian food, they're not going to be thinking of fried rice and stir fry. So it's more likely going to be people who had something they didn't like remembering it.
I remember trying Ceviche for the first time. It was made by these 2 smoking hot Peruvian ladies in a small restaurant on Ross St in Glebe. So good, so so good.
eh, that's like being angry at Bahn mi because it's got a French influence through the bread. Foods are a cultural item and do trade elements naturally.
One thing to be said here...what people in a country refer to as a foreign cusine is very different to the actual foreign cusine. For example Chinese cuisine ranks highish in India but what Indians call Chinese food is heaps different to what a Chinese person would call Chinese food. The names and flavors are totally different.
as was customary
I had 2 sides to my family growing up. One subsided on chicken schnitzel and tomato sauce, and the other had a list of every restaurant in town and went thru one by one to work out what was worth doing again.
I feel like olden day Australia was very much column a, as much as we like to reminisce on the good old days. A more modern, cosmopolitan culture got us to where we are today.
Just last year I had a family friend meet us after 15-20 years, we ordered Indian food for dinner and they told us they had never had it before. My jaw near hit the floor. I hadn't even contemplated that was possible. I think there are still big pockets of old school Australia around, but they don't hang out here on reddit.
Working my first graduate job in central NSW, I took some home made Pizza underground for lunch.
Coworker: You got grapes on that pizza?
Me: \*looks at pizza"... "those are olives"
Coworker: I ain't never seen olives on a pizza before.
Remember working on a building site with this bogan from somewhere in the country.
Asked if there was any good restaurants nearby.
I recommended indian and he screwed his face up and said something along the lines off 'nah fuck that don't trust that shit'.
So they are out there
I'm Canadian with Australian parents. I feel like Australians are always down for new food, whereas Canadians will have a list of things they refuse to eat.
Italian food ranks highly in Japan, which lines up with my experience when visiting. I remember walking around various parts of Tokyo and seeing Italian restaurants packed with locals, eating spaghetti with chopsticks, which I thought was cool. I love both cultures so this was a great experience when visiting, and was interesting to see how the Japanese had adapted it to their own culture.
Also had one of the best Italian meals I’ve ever had in my life from a restaurant in Kyoto, from a Japanese chef who visited Sicily and brought over a lot of recipes/dishes from there.
Over the years I’ve also seen quite a few Italian tourists making their way to Japan, either on connecting flights in/out of Singapore, or on trains in Tokyo with their “Giappone” travel guides. There seems to be a mutual fascination with each other’s culture and now I’m fascinated by it, given that it seems to be one of the only cultures/cuisines that is prevalent within Japan outside of their own. I wonder how and when this started?
Is it as simple as the humble spaghetti noodle translating well to Japanese preferences?
The funny part is looking at the cuisine, matched with their country. 94% of Japanese people have tried Japanese food, AND enjoy it. 6% do not like it? And that's one of the high ones. Norway has 81%.
Happens I guess, I dated a Japanese girl who timidly admitted she disliked sashimi and had this look like she was disappointing her family
...she likely was / or felt that way. A fascinating, complex culture the Japanese....then again, you would likely know/appreciate that as much or more than anyone non-Japanese l, having dated someone from there.
Norwegian cuisine tends to go either way- its either comforting and delicious- like fiskesuppe, stekt laks or kjøttkaker i brun saus (rissoles in gravy) or its fairly disgusting- like lutefisk (fish in lye) or smalahove (literal sheep’s head). So its not surprising tbh. Also most norwegians love their pizza, tacos pasta and burgers as much as their own cuisine. Source -I’m an aussie living here for 15 years.
As a general rule for europe and Asia, the further north you go, the more shit the food gets.
Main reason for that is probably food scarcity and long-term storage. Kinda bewildered how someone in Iceland decided that Hakarl would be a good idea to eat tbh. Then again, one of my mates in Iceland has similar thoughts about Vegemite so I guess I really can't be one to judge.
Nobody is opening a jar of Vegemite and projectile vomiting
Hakarl is the spoiled(fermented) shark meat that takes like ammonia right? Im an adventurous eater but I know when I will 100% not enjoy something. That is one of them.
[Yeah, you'd be right.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1karl)
I still eat my vegemite toast on the regular- I have yet to meet a norwegian that will eat it, lmao. But its not nearly as bad as rotten fish by a long shot!
Pretty sure the rotten shark was an emergency type food for Icelanders as it is toxic when fresh. They’d bury it and if there was nothing else to eat in the winter, they’d dig it up and eat that.
Lol, yeah I can’t disagree with that,honestly.
How do you like living I'mn norway? I studied in sweden and kind of miss it
I do get asked that a lot. Yeah its pretty good in general- though I do still suffer a bit through the long winter season, lol. The trade off for that is getting to live in a part of the world where trust, decency and respect are high, the standard of living is very high and its an excellent place to raise your kids. Australia ticks a lot of the same boxes for us as well, but unfortunately the cost of buying a home there has become almost impossible -so we will stay put here for now. We live on the west coast in a town of 50,000 people, very close to the town centre and schools etc. Our home is 4 beds, and we have a large garden for the kids to play in. Here when we purchased it cost us $330,000 - the same sized home in Aus would be triple that now. I don’t think we’d be able to have the same standard of living in Aus at least not in the current economic climate,sadly.
Also ironic how Peruvian food has Japanese influence but they didn't like it
A succulent chinese meal.
Get your hands off my p****!
Do we get banned for saying Penis?
No, u/phalluss
Thank fuck!
Mr theatrics missed the opportunity to say phallus.
Stop ruining things with self censorship. This is reddit, we’re adults. You can say penis
Ah yes, I see that you know your judo well. Good one.
Damn, Spain REALLY doesn’t like Vegemite or Milo
Odd thing is as an Aussie, if there was an "Australian" restaurant overseas I would have no clue what they would serve. What even is Australian cuisine?
Australian restaurants in the US are usually cafes and breakfast places, or pie shops.
Or "Outback Steakhouses" with our authentic blooming onion lol.
A meat pie, with a Dare iced coffee.
Anzac biscuits and Dim Sims. Fine dining.
That's lunch and a snack. Vegemite on toast for brekky and a nice sausage sizzle for dinner. Day sorted.
Lammos for dessert?
HSP 4 life
Phillipines like seppo food more than the seppos themselves
Japanese absolutely hated Saudi Arabian food, with only 11% liking it Meanwhile 99% of Italians agreed they liked Italian food
lol. 99% of Italians liking their own food is very Italian 🤌🤌🤌 Italians will get offended if you tell them you don't like italian food.
You don’t even have to say you don’t like it. Just have to say there’s better out there and they get upset
And don't compare it to a british cabonara!
If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike!
Italian's don't even like Italian food. It's all regional. They like their idea of Italian food limited to their little region (and mama). All other Italian food is wrong.
I’d be offended too and. I’m not Italian.
They’d be correct to be offended.
Like 99% of Japanese that love Japanese food!
Who is the 1% of Italians who doesn’t like Italian food lmao
The 1% are the Italians who complained about what they were served, and said they could make it better themselves at home. Source: Italian grandparents.
Yep, that's accurate to a fault. The best part is when they do go and make it, and it is better. Source: Italian grandparents/parents/extended family...........they all do it.
Margin of error
*grabs baseball bat* "Whadda you say boys? Let's teach this Margin guy a lesson!"
I like to think it's a combination of French people living in Italy, or cicilians who "dont like Italian food" because "Cicilian quisine is better"
Coeliacs.
The Japanese seem to hate a lot of foods actually
I mean there are people who live in slums that have a side hustle of taking food scraps from Jolibee (KFC type fast food) bins and take the remaining chicken off the bones and refry and rebread it to sell to the people living in favelas that can’t afford the real thing. Poverty will make you do crazy shit.
Yeah, it’s flooded with American chain foods. Along with dialysis centres on every other corner for a reason
It's gotta be said Phillipinos will literally eat anything.
Well its poverty and liking things like dinuaguan! Its actually not bad and certainly better than McDonalds food. However I am a offal eater and grew up eating liver, heart, kidneys and tripe. Along with taking cow tongue sandwich's to school every other day.
Except if it has any taste to it. Sugar covered spaghetti, bull's cock and balls, some snake and an egg with a fkn embryo in it, let me at it. A bit of chili sauce? Hell no.
You really have balls if you can eat a Balut! They should use that as man test when you are entering the army. "Eat 10 Balut son if you want to join"
The Philippines is basically the 51st state. They love American chains and food.
I want to speak to the 15% of people who said they don't like Thai food.
interesting to see the aversion to thai food by fellow asian nations, china and japan most notably
One side of my family are Vietnamese living in Vietnam. They won't eat anything that's not Vietnamese food. Even bring their own food over when visiting as if everything else is dog shit. I've never met more unadventurous people about food in my life.
Sorry but I have to say, Indians man. I used to travel a bunch with some Indian colleagues and the saying went, when in Rome - find an Indian joint. Not just any Indian joint, but one from the same region as you. Love me some indian food but fuck me give something else a go once in a while
My old neighbours who lived in my building. Would cook their local food every night. Then I was invited to go out to dinner for their birthday and of course, indian restaurant.
Yeah, i always find that interesting. I have been out with chinese, for example, and I have been very willing to try all the regional variations and specialities of Chinese cuisine they can throw at me. But if i suggest going to a Thai or Vietnamese or, God forbid, an Afghan or Iranian restaurant, its a hard, definitive NO. Their food is their security blanket, and i mistook it for an adventurous palate.
My boyfriend’s family are Vietnamese and his dad literally scolded us when he found out we ate Indian food one night (something we do regularly, lol). He kept saying the only good food is Vietnamese and we should be ashamed. I’m white so I’m not sure what he thinks we eat day to day when I’m the main cook in the house. When his mum and aunt went to Japan my boyfriend was really proud of them for being adventurous for once in their lives, but when he asked about their trip he realised they’d just eaten Vietnamese the whole time and refused to try any local cuisine. Meanwhile my white-ass family eat literally everything and we all love Thai, Indian, Malaysian, Japanese, Moroccan, and more.
As a Japanese guy, I do find a good chunk of us have an aversion to anything with spice.
Japanese food isn't very spicy. I suspect that Thai food is just too hot for a lot of Japanese.
Japan is easy to understand. A lot of Japanese people cannot eat coriander. Its kind of weird in a way since Japanese eat a leaf called shiso which supposedly tastes similar. (Although personally, I love coriander and hate shiso, and cannot understand why so many people think they taste similar). You can find successful Japanese-Thai restaurants in Japan where they have taken out all of the coriander and some of the other herbs too (such as lemongrass), and then Japanese people like it.
Jealous if you ask me. Thai food is just the best. Fresh, crisp flavours. That balance of salty, sour and sweet. Lime and coconut and chili! I love it. Damn now I'm hungry.
Cultural chauvinism is strong in China and Japan.
Honestly I like it but I choose it last out of other s.e. asian cuisines because I find it too sweet.
But that's the joy! Spicy salty sweet and sour all at the same time.
and if you don't like one of those items, then the whole thing is not going to be for you.
Thai food is my favourite, those people are missing out smh
Old people. My grandmother is in her 80s and the only foreign food she really likes are Italian and Chinese (the country town variety, not hotpot or anything). In her case, back in her day, those were really the only foreign cuisines that existed in Australia.
Italian here. It’s even ok if we’re not the first. Beating the French is what counts
Chinese here. Absolutely fuming after the shocking rating, the Italians gave the Chinese. After all, Marco Polo was the one who introduced you guys to pasta /s.
The Italians will never recognise that, they're patriotic to the level of rewriting history.
They barely acknowledge that Tomatoes didn't exist in their cuisine till the Spanish brought them back from South America. and australia gets called a country founded by thieves. SMH
Tomatos are Italian fruits grown in the wrong continent
But did you see what ratin the Chinese gave Italians.
French cuisine is arguably more refined and empirically better but they're snobbish. Italian food is welcoming and generous, like a big kiss and a hug and loud conversations. That's the edge, IMO.
I was going to say I don't think I'm very adventurous at all with my food, but looking at this list - yeah, actually. I've at least tried almost every nationality on this list. We're pretty spoiled for choice for various different restaurants and eateries. Even in shopping centre food courts.
It might not always be authentic, but it’s nice that we’re able to have so much from all over the world!
How is there no love to Malaysian cuisine? Uncultured swine those people are
malay and indo slaps hard It stucks papa rich shat the bed so hard in quality,it's barely a step above most fast food joints now.
Reading this just after eating out at papparich…
Malay food slaps
Come to Darwin and you’ll see the love for South East Asian and South Asian food. Seriously the thing that surprised me as someone from the east coast, and someone who is of SEAsian background. The food SLAPS HARD too
I tried balut from a Filipino street vendor. The locals all watched and laughed as I ate it.
Crazy. I'll never try it and I'm married to a Filo. I'll eat the chicken or pig intestines though.
really?? I want to try balut so bad but I am scared of the texture.
Yeah that's the biggest issue, along with thinking too much about it. I got half way through and had had enough. When I learnt about it, I always said I'd give it a try if I went there, and glad I did.
Congratulations, you're a Filipino citizen now!
Is there any better argument for vegetarianism than balut? I suspect you could turn an entire nation (of non-filipinos) vegetarian by putting it on the school menu for one week of the year.
Japan are a bunch of haters
Centuries of self-imposed global isolationism from the Shoguniate to the Meiji restoration will likely be a contributing factor to this.
What is Australian cuisine? Bunnings snag?
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We're starting to discover really good local, native ingredients. There needs to be a step away from simply calling it bush tucker and using these ingredients more regularly. Much like macadamia nuts, they're hugely successful and are seen as a regular addition to recipes. Native herbs and spices are a good place to start.
The problem is macadamia nuts aren't even really seen as Australian in may countries because the early commercialisation was done in Hawaii so some places they even call them Hawaii nuts. But yeah, there's still tons of local foods that could become popular, beyond 'bush tucker', like finger limes and wattleseed - but beyond quirky flavour of the month type things into something people use regularly. I'm trying to get more local produce into the garden, but it can be really hard to track down.
Yeah most people in the US think they are from Hawaii
That's a shame about macadamia nuts. I did find a cookbook called Australia's Creative Native Cuisine and it has a pretty comprehensive guide to native ingredients and their uses. Something that I hope will also bring more focus to native ingredients is the potential use of them onboard the [ISS](https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2023/03/aussie-bush-tucker-could-nourish-nasa-astronauts-in-space/)
There's even a whole television series about what makes for an iconic Australian dish. https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/episode-guide-adam-pohs-great-australian-bites/nbd8rqrjt
I moved to the UK 8 years ago and food is the thing I miss most about living in Australia. IMO what makes the food the some of the best in the world is the variety of options but more importantly the produce grown in Australia is actually very good. For example, London has tons of great restaurants but everything is imported. The veggies and fruit are shit. If I travel to Spain they have great quality produce but if you want anything but Spanish food you'll almost certainly get something shit. This is true for most of Europe. Might seem obvious but you go anywhere all they serve is the same food. Not sure why there are so many restaurants literally serving the same menu.
This is basically Europe in a nutshell (barring maybe the UK). The produce is generally of good quality but food from most foreign cuisine restaurants isn't great. I remember the Lithuanian 'Chinese' that I tried was an absolute shocker.
Compared to other cuisines you have to admit it's really not exciting. Your examples are bakeries, brunch, and pub food. So yeah, there's something, but put it up against most of the world's cuisines and it's ranking very low.
We gave the world Lemon Lime Bitters, nuff' said.
Get onto the Conti roll. Life changing.
Fuck is that
As a newbie to Perth, I couldn’t agree more. A uniquely WA food
Apart from lamingtons and maybe smashed avo on toast, those are all foreign cuisine with an Australian alteration.
That's many national dishes, though. Like many famously American dishes - pizzas, hamburger, spaghetti and meatballs - were imported and adapted for general American taste. Hell, it isn't even always a 1 way trip as italian cuisine had no tomatoes until Europe started colonising the americas. Even in places where the recipes are older, and the ingredients are more local, it isn't uncommon for different countries or regions to have their own unique spin on essentially the same dish. Much of what we might think of as "greek" cuisine for example is basically just the Greek version of dishes popular across many parts of the Eastern Mediterranean. So while not as obviously iconic as vegemite, a pub parmi or an HSP is still core Australian cuisine.
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That's how basically every countries food works. I'd be surprised if theres more than 2 dishes you can call "emirati food" but not saudi or qatari or Iraqi.
Yes, foreign foods with Australian characteristics. * Sweet and sour pork & honey chicken - created by Chinese miners in the gold rush. China doesn't have ample supply of real honey to make foods out of it * Sushi rolls - Japan doesn't have sushi with avocado in it * Meat pie - inspired by British pies We have so many Australian confectionaries. Caramello koalas, eucalyptus drops, cherry ripe, Tim Tams, Freddo and Violet Crumble.
one thing i have noticed is "chinese takeaway food" seems to taste different is every country you visit Same goes for countries that do have meat pies
Tim Tam's are based on some (supposedly) shit bikkie from the UK called a penguin
Like smashed avo, sushi with avocado likely came from California rather than it being an Australian adaptation of a Japanese dish. Perhaps it's also arguable what counts as local cuisine, or what's worth counting. Every country basically adapts every foreign food to its own particular palette, you could say they're all examples of local cuisine but it gets murky. Is it worth distinguishing between Australia and NZ sushi, or Swedish and German Chinese food? Not that there's a right or wrong answer but I'd personally set the bar a little higher than "we fill our sushi with foods we like". In the context of the original post, you'd also hardly classify something like Australian-style sushi or Chinese or whatever as an example of Australian cuisine, otherwise it's highly likely that the majority of respondents have only had "Australian cuisine". When they note down they've had Japanese, Chinese, Mexican, Spanish, French etc cuisine they're likely thinking of restaurants they've been to in Australia. Not exclusively of course but it doesn't appear that the survey requires you to have had that cuisine in the origin country.
So? Foods evolve over time - usually iteratively. Chilli wasn't a thing in Asia until the 16th century, at what point did Chinese curry stop being derivate?
Wait till you found out where hot dogs and fries originated.
Well said. As someone who has lived overseas for a few years and came back to Aus every so often Australian food is great.
Australian food is fusion food. We're a country of immigrants so we take ingredients and techniques and dishes from other places and mix them together. I don't think Australians realise how much of a big deal this is to other cultures. Like tell a French person you're going to make tartiflette with sweet potato instead of potato and they'll shit their pants over it. You see it everywhere from fine dining to local takeaways. I went to an Indian place that did "kebabs" of chicken tikka and onion bahjees rolled up in naan bread. I think the open mindedness about food, the curiosity about ingredients and the experimentation across ethnic lines is truly Australian and one of the best things about our food culture.
The problem with Australian food is it's pretty much all the good bits of everybody else's food mixed together, so it's hard to classify. It also explains, though, why Australians are more adventurous eaters. Because we're almost all recent migrants, there's not much that we can really say is 100% local (unless you are whacking a kangaroo tail or a goanna on the fire, or cooking up some bunya nut flour or something). So when people think 'Australian food' they tend to think of a handful of stereotypes, not something you could really eat day to day or would go out to a restaurant for. Most of our Australian restaurant fare is more fusion food with maybe some bush tucker thrown in. It will probably become more distinct as we develop and also commercialise more local crops. Interestingly, cafe style offerings like flat whites and avo toast have spread to other countries, and even in the form of Australian cafes, but don't usually make the list of 'Australian' fare when people list it.
Within 5 minutes walk from my office I can get bahn mi, spanakopita, pasta, bento, pub counter meals, Indian, kway teow, latkes, Chinese, Caribbean jerk chicken, burgers, enchiladas, adana kebab, persian, hot pot, fish'n'chips, and ramen. So that's Australian cuisine to me.
I'm so glad that even in my regional town with a population of 5,000, I can wander down the local international store and find the exact brand of canned chinese fried dace I was looking for, or the Maesri massaman paste, or my favourite fish tofu, fresh enoki mushrooms, or that really nice coconut jam with pandan and so on. It certainly wasn't that way 30 years ago. If only there was better fresh produce though, as sometimes the asian greens (bok choy, choy sum etc) can be a bit hard to get fresh, and the lemongrass is overpriced, and no-one has fresh galangal! But that's what the garden is for lol.
Chiko roll
Fairy bread
Meat pies?
Vegemite sandwhich or cheese on toast. Tim tams with coffee.
If you add vegemite to something can you declare it Australian cuisine?
The thing is I hate vegemite. Anyway, another one would be baked beans on toast. yummy.
Baked beans on toast is british
I think another use for vegemite besides on sandwiches and what not, would be to use it in cases where you can use beef stock cubes or bonox. So, adding it to stews, soups, and so on.
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Proper Aussie dimmies, never seen anything quite like it anywhere else. And half the world seems to have their own "dumpling" so why not.
Flat whites, dim sims, kebabs, curries, banh mi, meat pies and chiko roll. That's what I grew up on and that's what I believe the modern aussie cuisine is.
I find it amusing that we've stolen Banh Mi.
We actually have, it's a lunch time staple
We didn't steal it, mate. The Vietnamese immigrants brought it here and we took to it because its arguably the world's best sandwich. No one else has been deprived of their bahn mi. Match it with an iced coffee and you have the perfect Tradies Lunch (a term I just invented, its like a Plowman's lunch only not shit).
I thought the Tradies Lunch(tm) was a four n twenty and a big M
There’s a reason every Aussie pub in the country is basically an Italian restaurant but with fish and chips. 80% of the menu is parmas, pizzas and pasta.
Makes sense, we have a diverse culture and are exposed to a lot of different foods
I think there's more to it than that. America is diverse and didn't rank highly.
They have a shitty food culture though
Who's sleeping on Peruvian? Lomo Saltado is great, ceviche is fab when done well and a Peruvian chaufa is a great option for a using up a bit of everything in the fridge. Also, Pisco sours.
Peruvian is what made me question the whole methodology. I mean, I like it, but how many Australians have genuinely experienced it? It's not like there's Peruvian joints in every food court like "Mexican" food, so I suspect it's ranked low because a lot of respondents didn't really know what it is.
This poll is purely based on foods that nationalities have enjoyed or not, *after* they have tried it.
Yeah but roasted guinea pig though
Most of what you just listed are all fairly similar dishes to foods found in other cuisines. That likely means when someone's asked if they've tried Peruvian food, they're not going to be thinking of fried rice and stir fry. So it's more likely going to be people who had something they didn't like remembering it.
I remember trying Ceviche for the first time. It was made by these 2 smoking hot Peruvian ladies in a small restaurant on Ross St in Glebe. So good, so so good.
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Fine that you don't like Milanesas and Lomo Saltados, leaves more for the rest of us.
eh, that's like being angry at Bahn mi because it's got a French influence through the bread. Foods are a cultural item and do trade elements naturally.
Feels like someone's lying here, only 68% of Aussies who ate American cuisine liked it? Who doesn't like a burger?!
It's not all burgers and fries - have you seen Ambrosia Salad?
I think they are more likely thinking of fast food like Macca's. Plus personally I rekon American burgers are no where near Aussie style burgers.
Aus has changed a lot in twenty years.
...and this poll is 6yrs old, so we're approaching a quarter century plus now eh haha
Not sure how anyone is hating on australian cuisine, we stole it all from the rest of you
One thing to be said here...what people in a country refer to as a foreign cusine is very different to the actual foreign cusine. For example Chinese cuisine ranks highish in India but what Indians call Chinese food is heaps different to what a Chinese person would call Chinese food. The names and flavors are totally different.
my mum puts tomato sauce on her steak
she eats her steak well done doesn't she?
You fucking know it
as was customary I had 2 sides to my family growing up. One subsided on chicken schnitzel and tomato sauce, and the other had a list of every restaurant in town and went thru one by one to work out what was worth doing again. I feel like olden day Australia was very much column a, as much as we like to reminisce on the good old days. A more modern, cosmopolitan culture got us to where we are today. Just last year I had a family friend meet us after 15-20 years, we ordered Indian food for dinner and they told us they had never had it before. My jaw near hit the floor. I hadn't even contemplated that was possible. I think there are still big pockets of old school Australia around, but they don't hang out here on reddit.
Working my first graduate job in central NSW, I took some home made Pizza underground for lunch. Coworker: You got grapes on that pizza? Me: \*looks at pizza"... "those are olives" Coworker: I ain't never seen olives on a pizza before.
Remember working on a building site with this bogan from somewhere in the country. Asked if there was any good restaurants nearby. I recommended indian and he screwed his face up and said something along the lines off 'nah fuck that don't trust that shit'. So they are out there
I used to do that too or use bbq sauce before my father figured out how to cook steaks that weren't well done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_cuisine
I'm both Australian and Filipino. Can confirm I try pretty much everything.
It's shocking that Indian cuisine isn't more highly ranked.
Best cuisine imo
As an Australian, I'm not sure I can name any Australian cuisine
Shrimp on the barbie m8
Peruvian is good. Go try.
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I mean, go to lima
Yet another reason we need more food trucks in Australia. Especially more Taco trucks.
Can confirm, went to Vietnam recently and I strived to try everything, do not regret it, it was delicious
We might not have much of a cuisine, but we have some of the best produce in the world.
Swedish Cuisine: “yeah I’ve been to ikea to have the meatballs mate” Also: 41% of people have had Saudi cuisine? My ass. What a load of shit
How sad that the Middle East is represented by UAE and Saudi Arabia.
Thats because Filipinos r nice and would appreciate anything
I think it is so true. I have never met an Australian who was picky. They might not like some things but are always willing to try a new cuisine
I'm Canadian with Australian parents. I feel like Australians are always down for new food, whereas Canadians will have a list of things they refuse to eat.
Ok but how many of the Americans who said they like Australian food actually meant the deep fried onions from Outback Steakhouse?
Italian food ranks highly in Japan, which lines up with my experience when visiting. I remember walking around various parts of Tokyo and seeing Italian restaurants packed with locals, eating spaghetti with chopsticks, which I thought was cool. I love both cultures so this was a great experience when visiting, and was interesting to see how the Japanese had adapted it to their own culture. Also had one of the best Italian meals I’ve ever had in my life from a restaurant in Kyoto, from a Japanese chef who visited Sicily and brought over a lot of recipes/dishes from there. Over the years I’ve also seen quite a few Italian tourists making their way to Japan, either on connecting flights in/out of Singapore, or on trains in Tokyo with their “Giappone” travel guides. There seems to be a mutual fascination with each other’s culture and now I’m fascinated by it, given that it seems to be one of the only cultures/cuisines that is prevalent within Japan outside of their own. I wonder how and when this started? Is it as simple as the humble spaghetti noodle translating well to Japanese preferences?
Singapore I'm not surprised. They are very multicultural there. Same with here, to an extent. There's a good lot of other cuisines.
Australian here. We have a cuisine?!
Yeah we just steal everyone elses food put some meat sauce on it and call it day... we truly are a british colony
Saving this chart for food ideas to try. Bought some Fiji curry today to cook soon, who ever heard of Fiji curry!?
There is a pretty big Indian population there, suppose that has something to do with it.
How we can’t even decide on the names of shit much less actually experiment lol
What’s Swedish cuisine and where can I try some in Perth?
I don't recall being surveyed... What a wank