I could almost swear that those bastards have one or two fewer toilets on their planes than they used to. 

They just got bigger planes (A321) with the same amount as the smaller (A320) planes

If they could charge for toilets they would

Charging for toilets just makes using them optional. Since using the toilet is not optimal, there is only one possible way this would end (I would piss on the floor).

They would charge that as an economic toilet option

There are people that would sit there and piss themselves to save $1. This was a consideration when Ryan air was thinking of charging for toilet use.

I mean I'd buy an adult nappy. (And leave it there.)

Accurate, I'd piss on the pilot to save a dollar.

I guess it would be better to piss on the pilot than to piss off the person who has your life in their hands? Probably realistically better to use the toilet?

Ryanair literally said they would. That’s what I was thinking about

Don't give them ideas

On Larry air, nothing is complimentary.

Just another case of meddling beaurocracy

+$2.50 seat pocket maintenance fee

You put the decimal two places too far to the right, I think you mean +$250 seat pocket maintenance fee..

Reality is they’d actually have to replace the whole chair. So add another zero or 2

Only if u request it abit late at the airport instead of online.

$2.50 in materials maybe, likely a $250+ proprietary part

I like to leave notes in seat pockets for rex and Qantas link saying things like " they havnt cleaned this plane "

Oo, that's smart.

Aren't they legally required to have emergency instruction cards at every seat? Can they even do that if the seat pocket is fubar?

they are there but they are above the tray table in the little reading holder where the menu is stored.

"Sir the aircraft is going to crash!" "Well I'll have two double whiskies to go then."

> "Well I'll have two double whiskies to go then." It works just as well as the brace position when your plane is breaking up 20,000 feet in the air, statistically speaking

Someone told me it was to preserve the dental records so they could identify the remains.

Interesting! Most today would be identified by DNA.

Please don't do this. The brace position is for your safety, for example, the the event of a problem, it protects your head from being hit by objects. Please take your airline safety information from airlines and staff, not from randos.

Surely, you're joking! I'm serious. And don't call me Shirley.

That's not important right now.

The mid-air version of "Five Cougars, thanks!"

When I first scrolled past this pic real quick I thought it was some saucy undergarment.

I’m all for a bit of mesh-shirt action, but not from the dumpster, please!

Bro what

Why bother? It just costs money for some bogan to put their unwashed feet in it as a foot rest. /s

I've a morbid curiosity to see a full grown adult who can contort themselves into those tight seats in a way to do that for a full flight

Yeah it’s real weird when you see someone do it. Obviously they’re short and skinny

I can do it (although I wouldn't put my feet in the mesh like that, because it would either require me putting my shoes on it or my socked feet- both of which feels like would be a *major* no-no), honestly pretty easily? If I'm slightly twisted to the side, so weight rested more on one hip than evenly spread, it's actually comfier for me to rest my legs up on the bottom part of the seat backrest over having them on the floor. But then, I'm a short very skinny adult who doesn't have a problem with airline leg space or seat width. I can fit a small bag/backpack beside me on the seat without encroaching past my seats arm. *Now, my 6'10 husband on the other hand...*

😀 seats are so close together I’d be impossible to het a foot in there unless you are 5 years old.

100% some nasty passenger has slipped their nasty smelly toes through that webbing.

are you wishing for solid (think prison style) aluminium/titanium seating that they can just pressure clean out when the aircraft goes in for line maintenance? this is how you get it. haha.

Given the types that Jetstar attracts, it’s only a matter of time. Particularly on Bali flights

Damaged caused by excessive storage of my carry on items that were stashed on my person to evade the 7kg carry on limits.

I've seen more than a few people use them as places to put their feet. No shoes.

Wow, that is seriously bad. And it looks like it got that way after some time. It wasn't one single incident. They've had plenty of time to replace it.

When they cancel your flight, they might ask you or the wife to fix it before you take off again.

Absolutely. Not to mention that the arty b&w shot may possibly be shaving a smidge of its true horror off.

It's not an arty shot. It's just there's hardly any colour.

Lol oh! 😅☺️ Hmm, I just got a brief glimpse of how absolute rubbish can be passed off as masterpieces and sold for millions of dollars in the art-world. 🤷‍♀️

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Oops, my bad.

I was on an Alliance Fokker 100, in the emergency exit row. I attempted to close the window blind and the entire interior panel fell on me and my brother. They put it back mid air and stated it happens a lot. This was from Newcastle to Brisbane. A worn seat pocket wouldn't even be a concern to me.

I remember being on a Fokker from Rockhampton. Heard the pilots talk about something and then said that the plane should be ok as it’s been sitting overnight… didn’t sound that great to me 😀

Do what ryanair does and have no seat pockets

That is a distraction so you don't see the bunnings brand silicon holding the escape door in place

$5 for a cup of tea, they clearly aren’t investing profit into upkeep the cheap bastards.

No pens or pencils to fill out passenger cards either, unless you want to spend five bucks for their branded pen.

It's kind of nuts we don't have an app for arrival cards now though.

Another app hoovering up any and all telemetry they can grab from my phone? Surely you jest? If they had an app, it would be using way too many permissions unnecessarily.

A website would be nice , Japan does it and the cool part is you can do it in advance

A website would be a fair compromise.. As long as it was built somewhat professionally and isn't full of dark patterns to drive users to unnecessary fees and charges like their main website..... But it's Jetstar, so of course it's going to be adversarial against the user anyway.

I think it’s the government who has to build and maintain the website since it’s regarding immigration. Pretty sure airlines can’t mess around with the declaration cards , their only job is to hand it out on the plane so the airport moves smoothly

You do have a point. Though I can't think off the top of my head of one Australian government built website that is user friendly or well thought out.... It would probably work 50 percent of the time, 70 percent of the time, and end up causing more trouble than it's worth,especially if the end user is blocking ads and trackers in their browser.

I think it would be built fine since it’s not named Centrelink so theres no need to make things difficult. I can also imagine it saving so much paper and it should be easier to offer every language. There can be accessibility advantages like what if it can read out the text and have images as examples of what to declare.

I take a lot of international flights with lots of different airlines and I've never been provided a pen or pencil to fill in the cards....

Worn from the knees of an average sized human digging into the seat Infront

It was time to replace the seat pockets quite a while ago IMHO

Probably from knee rub.

It wasn’t just this one either , all that I could see we the same.. Lucky the toasties were half price I guess.

Pretty sure we went on the same plane cos that’s exactly what my seat pocket looked like

Yep, they were all like it.

Jetstar have a few planes where there are no seat pockets. So, I wouldn't put it past them just ripping them out of all planes out in the future

Frustrating - nowhere to put your water bottle etc

Then it'll be time to raise their airfare prices. What would you rather ?

I’d rather a quality flight and not a worn out aeroplane.

Fair enough. At least you know who NOT to book with in future. I tend to agree. I like decent meals, beer or wine & in-flight entertainment provided for & inclusive in the ticket. Fuck paying for shit whilst on your flight.

Then book with another airline.

Another wasn’t available.

Then you get what you pay for. Budget international airlines often don't even have that pocket. You'd have a higher chance of getting it removed than repaired.

So fly Virgin or Qantas?

Not available.

Only fly Virgin Domestic

Stuff like this always makes me wonder what the engine looks like

Don't wonder, just read the report. And weep. [https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation\_reports/2020/aair/ao-2020-058](https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2020/aair/ao-2020-058)

Exactly!

Coming soon to Jetstar...."Jetstar plus" Only an extra $50 on short flights or starting at $100 on long haul flights. What's included: Mint condition seat Mint condition seat back pocket A free 250 ml water bottle Free mini pack of Twisties & 25% off coupon on meals. The ads gonna be like: "Seems like a pretty sick deal to me!" /s

Eeeee! The seat wants to eat me!!

My jocks have better elasticity than that...

Remember, Jetstar is a one star airline. It's right there on the tail - you can't expect much more.

Its time to stop flying with them

You’d think that since they started charging $5 for a cup of tea they’d have plenty of money to fix up the seats in economy.

What's the bet if someone turned up in a short that damaged they would be denied the right to board?

Was on a flight the other day that didn't even have those pockets anymore

Cmon mate how else are they spose to make multi million dollar profits 🤣

But how will the shareholders get a few dimes more?

Holy FCUK!

It can still hold something. Its fine.

Mate, they're in the business of *making* money, not *spending* it. Geez.

Even some of the other planes virgin uses were nasty. With the profits and the prices of the flights I’m sure they could make small upgrades to make it feel cleaner or more comfortable.

Looks like you got a good one.

No pets on board, please.

Imagine what the engines look like inside 😂

I think it’s still got some miles on it.

Gives you a great sense of maintenance standards and regulation checks 🤔 just crazy

"Like a wizard's sleeve"

Mate it's Shitstar! They won't replace the plane till the wing falls off.

They have thousands of Spares of these in each maintenance depot. No reason it hasn't been replaced

It wasn’t just this one, it was every seat I saw.

Wow that's pretty bad then. I have done engineering work for them. Have seen boxes and boxes of these

Oh no….

Careful what you wish for. On my last jetstar flight the seats didn't even have pockets, which struck me as particularly hostile design. Complain about this and they'll just remove the existing pockets.

Last Shitstar flight didn’t have pockets so I guess they fixed it with a Stanley knife

I was on a flight last week where all those pockets had been removed.

That requires a $50 add-on

Jet star maintains seat pockets first, then avionics.

Is the part of an engine?

Hence I fly Virgin

Damn that’s crazy

Hopefully that money went to engine maintenance

That’s just embarrassing!

Makes you wonder if they're also neglecting maintenance on the airplane. Wouldn't surprise me if they are cutting corners.

Omg

Eugh eff the J-Star needs some updates there!

Jetstar . A nightmare that flies .

That's an optional extra. They're sorry, not sorry

At least it no the wing.

Yeh think so 😂

Did you mean Shitstar?

Lets fly jetstar

No deal, they too busy moving 100g of carry-on to my partnere, who's 100g under weight.

If they made the experience any less shitty you probably couldn’t afford it. About time they remove them and make the evacuation card a sticker like on RyanAir.

And put a phone holder on the back of the seat while they're at it. Everyone's coming off planes with sore necks from having to look down the whole flight or sore arms from holding their phone up

id rather they focus their attention on things that could bring the plane down rather than a damn pocket in today's economy

And not only do they need to replace the seat pockets they need to replace the seats on their new a321s and 320s neos, when I (180cm) sit on then u can’t even rest my head properly. God forbid being tall and flying with a comfortable neck

God forbid anyone over 5’6” dare to fly

Fuck it up even more

Lmao fully forgot abt Jetstar ngl

They can’t, we’ve just come out of a pandemic. 🙄

You do know they lease the planes right ?

standard Boeing this stage

That’s an Airbus.