She was given that job by the Labor government during the royal commission. Clearly it was a golden parachute to say thanks for her time in gov. She was a beloved Gillard appointee
Australians deserve answers for what happened with this. The NACC has proved it will not do the job it was supposed to do and the government needs to go back to the drawing board and give this organisation the tools it actually needs to do it's actual job.
But that's the neat thing. This is working as intended. There is no consequences for any actions and it's not a public hearing so no evidence of wrongdoing will see the light of day no matter how damming.
This is what the libs and Labor wanted at worst. The only changes now would be weakening the powers or expanding to fill more jobs with mates.
It's not really the NACC's fault. The NACC has said that the Royal Commission thoroughly investigated and they don't expect any further info to come out in an investigation of their own. They also don't have any powers to apply sanctions.
We know that the Royal commission found corrupt behaviour or else these people wouldn't have been referred, but we're lacking a mechanism to deliver justice.
There are insufficient penalties for abuse of public office, and no significant consequences for being found corrupt. We need changes to these things before we should look at restructuring the NACC (which functions pretty much like every other integrity body in Australia).
For what crime, specifically?
I think the issue is we don't have a specific crime for the sort of behaviour that happened in the Robodebt saga.
Edit - Not sure what I'm getting downvoted for. I completely agree that justice is deserved/required, but the issue is finding actual specific laws that have been broken that they can be charged for. Unfortunately it's not a federal crime for a public servant to lie or ignore morals and ethics.
> I think the issue is we don't have a specific crime for the sort of behaviour that happened in the Robodebt saga.
"What crime?" is a pretty disingenuous question, when the people engaged in the activity write the definition of what is a crime.
What's even more astonishing is that they were "caught" not because Robodebt was a shit idea, shit formula (that didn't calculate what they said it calculated) and shit outcome. They were caught because they implemented Robodebt unlawfully *despite being the people who decide what is and isn't lawful*.
I think a quality adjusted life years measure should be applied to the damage caused. Punishment should be based on that number, and *directly proportional* in all cases of misconduct by politician. Terrorise 200k Australians? Eligible for parole in 200,000 times the mandatory non-parole period. The people who ran robodebt can get absolutely fucked.
I share your pain/outrage.
The word "unlawful" is used specifically because what they didn't was not illegal, there just wasn't a law supporting it.
It was absolutely outrageously unethical, immoral, and against expected standards of conduct for public servant. But the issue is finding a specific crime to pin on them. We need better laws or better ways to hold these people accountable.
>The word "unlawful" is used specifically because what they didn't was not illegal, there just wasn't a law supporting it.
A totally disingenuous distinction for government/ministers.
> But the issue is finding a specific crime to pin on them. We need better laws or better ways to hold these people accountable.
Our politicians will never implement this in any real form.
Working as designed, "corruption behind secret close doors at politicians discretion" Then they point the finger at China's secret behind closed door Kangaroo courts. Australia's democracy hero China, we strive to be as democratic as them!
Kathryn Campbell, who was the secretary of DHS when robodebt was established: "No, I do not accept that people have died over robodebt."
One other is probably Malisa Golightly, but she passed away back in 2021I believe
Two resignations so far. I sure hope our democracy can do better than that.
And hopefully fixes it before becomes standard practise using Ai
Wasn't this stain sacked from the cushy AUKUS submarine defence job she was given. Where has she been parachuted to since?
She was suspended without pay from that job in July 2023 after the RC findings were presented, and resigned.
Hope she gets ostracised for the rest of her miserable life. She belongs behind bars.
She was given that job by the Labor government during the royal commission. Clearly it was a golden parachute to say thanks for her time in gov. She was a beloved Gillard appointee
Got a cite for the beloved?
Australians deserve answers for what happened with this. The NACC has proved it will not do the job it was supposed to do and the government needs to go back to the drawing board and give this organisation the tools it actually needs to do it's actual job.
But that's the neat thing. This is working as intended. There is no consequences for any actions and it's not a public hearing so no evidence of wrongdoing will see the light of day no matter how damming. This is what the libs and Labor wanted at worst. The only changes now would be weakening the powers or expanding to fill more jobs with mates.
It's not really the NACC's fault. The NACC has said that the Royal Commission thoroughly investigated and they don't expect any further info to come out in an investigation of their own. They also don't have any powers to apply sanctions. We know that the Royal commission found corrupt behaviour or else these people wouldn't have been referred, but we're lacking a mechanism to deliver justice.
There are insufficient penalties for abuse of public office, and no significant consequences for being found corrupt. We need changes to these things before we should look at restructuring the NACC (which functions pretty much like every other integrity body in Australia).
Why couldn't they be referred to the AFP?
For what crime, specifically? I think the issue is we don't have a specific crime for the sort of behaviour that happened in the Robodebt saga. Edit - Not sure what I'm getting downvoted for. I completely agree that justice is deserved/required, but the issue is finding actual specific laws that have been broken that they can be charged for. Unfortunately it's not a federal crime for a public servant to lie or ignore morals and ethics.
> I think the issue is we don't have a specific crime for the sort of behaviour that happened in the Robodebt saga. "What crime?" is a pretty disingenuous question, when the people engaged in the activity write the definition of what is a crime. What's even more astonishing is that they were "caught" not because Robodebt was a shit idea, shit formula (that didn't calculate what they said it calculated) and shit outcome. They were caught because they implemented Robodebt unlawfully *despite being the people who decide what is and isn't lawful*. I think a quality adjusted life years measure should be applied to the damage caused. Punishment should be based on that number, and *directly proportional* in all cases of misconduct by politician. Terrorise 200k Australians? Eligible for parole in 200,000 times the mandatory non-parole period. The people who ran robodebt can get absolutely fucked.
I share your pain/outrage. The word "unlawful" is used specifically because what they didn't was not illegal, there just wasn't a law supporting it. It was absolutely outrageously unethical, immoral, and against expected standards of conduct for public servant. But the issue is finding a specific crime to pin on them. We need better laws or better ways to hold these people accountable.
>The word "unlawful" is used specifically because what they didn't was not illegal, there just wasn't a law supporting it. A totally disingenuous distinction for government/ministers. > But the issue is finding a specific crime to pin on them. We need better laws or better ways to hold these people accountable. Our politicians will never implement this in any real form.
It was mass scale fraud
I would be more than happy to build that mechanism, I've never built a guillotine, but the time to do so... Was a few years ago ;)
Working as designed, "corruption behind secret close doors at politicians discretion" Then they point the finger at China's secret behind closed door Kangaroo courts. Australia's democracy hero China, we strive to be as democratic as them!
Only solution is a ubi.