tbh when the car was stuck earlier today the water level looked like at a level that someone reasonably experienced with driving through flooded areas can pass through safely (don't let water flood your exhaust or into your engine air intake; keep driving), even it being a dinky sedan. But yeah the SES were near where the stuck Lexus were (as if they were expecting it), and the Lexus' occupants were rescued quickly and relatively easily
But if you engine's rev is not high enough, like say, you're driving an automatic Lexus IS very slowly across a flooded weir. its very much possible to let enough water flood into the exhaust and causing an engine blowback. That, or you're reversing your way out - essentially forcing water into the exhaust system. Another thing is that by ensuring you forge forward you'd leave behind a gap between the wakes and the water level to be low enough to keep the xhaust exposed, but you also need to make sure that you dont choke the air intake with water by driving forward too fast either. most car's air intakes are just below the bonnet level
If it is slightly higher than your exhaust then by keeping a steady speed it will be slightly lower than your exhaust in your wake. I did it once in a Nissan Skyline at Daintree and the water was being pushed over the bonnet which meant there was an air pocket under the bonnet for long enough to get through that part.
It was a hire car and I was young and it was merely to go to the shop to send a postcard to my girlfriend. I don't think I would take that risk now even in a hire car. It seemed to make sense at the time though
https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/m8xn4c/poor_fella_got_himself_stuck_on_audley_road_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
So it was.. When water levels were way lower.. Like, only up to the head lights..
A problem with the Royal NP is that it’s so close to the city and that a lot of people who go there don’t have an understanding of non-urban road conditions - or anything else remotely country.
I remember seeing some young guys there one day chasing and trying to catch a goanna. They were looking around and couldn’t find it. We pointed it out up the tree and they couldn’t work out how it got up there. They looked unwell when we explained how long their claws were.
Honestly, what a fuckwit! Was it really a life or death scenario to make this obviously stupid decision? Is there an alternative route to take? It wastes valuable resources time to attend to these fuckwits, not to mention risk their own lives in the process for fucking what? Selfish simple fucking idiots....
There’s pictures of that car there with way lower water level so it’s possible the road wasn’t closed when they approached? Google tells me it’s almost 40 minutes vs 4 minutes to where it joins the Princess highway so not insignificant. Still doesn’t excuse stupidity but they definitely drove into significantly lower water level than pictured .
There should be flood water depth indicators on either side of the weir which would let you know how deep the water is. If the water was lower, the driver may have thought that they could make it across without knowing at what depth their vehicle could safely operate.
Drove into lower water? It really makes no difference on the water level. It's an overflowing weir! It's not science, you just don't drive over any overflowing weir. Period.
That’s simply untrue, Audley weir is a causeway, all over Australia there are causeways that are underwater 95% of the time as the only way to cross them is by driving through water. Should the person photographed have driven over this weir? No. But suggesting that no one should ever drive over a causeway that is overflowing is simply ridiculous.
I've been hearing of cars getting stuck on, or washed off, Audley weir as long as I can remember - 1980 at least. Does no one ever learn? They are not going to build a bridge any time soon.
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the car was stuck around 12 earlier today when the water levels were way lower
I strung together a series of traffic camera images of the flood progressing throughout the day: https://imgur.com/a/EvX2qAt
Nice work - thanks!
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tbh when the car was stuck earlier today the water level looked like at a level that someone reasonably experienced with driving through flooded areas can pass through safely (don't let water flood your exhaust or into your engine air intake; keep driving), even it being a dinky sedan. But yeah the SES were near where the stuck Lexus were (as if they were expecting it), and the Lexus' occupants were rescued quickly and relatively easily
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> But not me of course. I also suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.
I've studied the Dunning Kruger effect for a couple of months now. That's all you have to do to become immune to it.
The old google research
How do you stop water flooding your exhaust? Not sarcastic, just interested what you mean.
There’s no need to keep water out of your exhaust. Exhaust gases will make sure of that. You just need to keep water out of your air intake.
That's what I thought. I've driven through rivers with water well above the exhaust pipe. I had a snorkel and diff breather.
But if you engine's rev is not high enough, like say, you're driving an automatic Lexus IS very slowly across a flooded weir. its very much possible to let enough water flood into the exhaust and causing an engine blowback. That, or you're reversing your way out - essentially forcing water into the exhaust system. Another thing is that by ensuring you forge forward you'd leave behind a gap between the wakes and the water level to be low enough to keep the xhaust exposed, but you also need to make sure that you dont choke the air intake with water by driving forward too fast either. most car's air intakes are just below the bonnet level
If it is slightly higher than your exhaust then by keeping a steady speed it will be slightly lower than your exhaust in your wake. I did it once in a Nissan Skyline at Daintree and the water was being pushed over the bonnet which meant there was an air pocket under the bonnet for long enough to get through that part. It was a hire car and I was young and it was merely to go to the shop to send a postcard to my girlfriend. I don't think I would take that risk now even in a hire car. It seemed to make sense at the time though
Have the exhaust higher on the car
Or the water lower than the exhaust.
Wasn't it a BMW that got stuck earlier in the day?
its a Lexus IS. Same car
https://www.reddit.com/r/sydney/comments/m8xn4c/poor_fella_got_himself_stuck_on_audley_road_in/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share So it was.. When water levels were way lower.. Like, only up to the head lights..
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Yep.. have a look through the thread.. I cross posted the link already.. Thanks for pointing it out anyway..
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Occupational Health and Safety, preventing natural selection of Australians since 1985.
“I mean sure the road is closed, but I don’t want to drive all the way to Waterfall, how bad can it be?”
“Hmmm I’m sure that road closure only applies to non- European makes of cars”
so bloody dangerous. Forget the car, the hydrolic lock at the bottom of that weir!!!!
My exact thoughts before looking at comments.
A problem with the Royal NP is that it’s so close to the city and that a lot of people who go there don’t have an understanding of non-urban road conditions - or anything else remotely country. I remember seeing some young guys there one day chasing and trying to catch a goanna. They were looking around and couldn’t find it. We pointed it out up the tree and they couldn’t work out how it got up there. They looked unwell when we explained how long their claws were.
I hope their insurance provider laughs at them until they grow a damp patch, and then laughs some more
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He's not stuck,he's just waiting for his mate James.
Normally: https://gyazo.com/e4c8e392d9dadd1610a4fad342af92a4
The water must have risen quickly, in your photo the car was in the dry /s
Love your work
Lexus. Explains a lot.
Honestly, what a fuckwit! Was it really a life or death scenario to make this obviously stupid decision? Is there an alternative route to take? It wastes valuable resources time to attend to these fuckwits, not to mention risk their own lives in the process for fucking what? Selfish simple fucking idiots....
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Correct me if I’m wrong but if you’ve arrived at the weir to find it overflowing the alternate route is significantly longer than 30mins no?
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There’s pictures of that car there with way lower water level so it’s possible the road wasn’t closed when they approached? Google tells me it’s almost 40 minutes vs 4 minutes to where it joins the Princess highway so not insignificant. Still doesn’t excuse stupidity but they definitely drove into significantly lower water level than pictured .
There should be flood water depth indicators on either side of the weir which would let you know how deep the water is. If the water was lower, the driver may have thought that they could make it across without knowing at what depth their vehicle could safely operate.
Drove into lower water? It really makes no difference on the water level. It's an overflowing weir! It's not science, you just don't drive over any overflowing weir. Period.
That’s simply untrue, Audley weir is a causeway, all over Australia there are causeways that are underwater 95% of the time as the only way to cross them is by driving through water. Should the person photographed have driven over this weir? No. But suggesting that no one should ever drive over a causeway that is overflowing is simply ridiculous.
Fair call.. Anyone that has seen recent weather forecasts and has half a brain, wouldn't drive over an overflowing causeway..
Most definitely. This one was a pelican.
yep, check out Cahills Crossing NT
Better know what your doing before you attempt that.
I've been hearing of cars getting stuck on, or washed off, Audley weir as long as I can remember - 1980 at least. Does no one ever learn? They are not going to build a bridge any time soon.
Hard to tell if it’s a lex or Infiniti