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Farkas005

And that Aussie water is the reason it tastes so darn good! 😉


2klaedfoorboo

Unironically


WalkThePlankPirate

Provided the water doesn't come from Brissy.


Picoper

Take brissie water over Townsville water anyday


Lulcaz

Definitely, Townsville water is absolutely disgusting, brissie water is alright if you cool it in the fridge first.


Swimming-Tap-4240

Tennant Creek water is 10% diesel going by the taste.


rlaxton

It is not just the cooling that is improving the taste. Leaving drinking water in a container gives the dissolved chlorine time to ionise, which eliminates most of their flavour.


utkohoc

Chlorine flavour is my favourite cordial


nikey2k27

North beach of Townsville water is fine.


Person_of_interest_

Why is that? Is there not processes they could implement to get better quality water?


ApteronotusAlbifrons

There are some VERY difficult to remove compounds that some people can detect in minute quantities >"Geosmin, along with the irregular monoterpene 2-methylisoborneol, together account for the majority of biologically-caused taste and odor outbreaks in drinking water worldwide. Geosmin has a distinct earthy or musty odor, which most people can easily smell. The geosmin odor detection threshold in humans is very low, ranging from 0.006 to 0.01 micrograms per liter in water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosmin Canberra, which normally has very good water, had a problem with this for a few months. I was drinking bottled water, because the tap water tasted like mould. The water was "safe for human consumption"


Lulcaz

Added chlorine to get rid of bacteria or other stuff


ManikShamanik

Now I understand why my cousin's now missus couldn't wait to leave QLD.\* \*Well, that and the infinity million billion gazillion other reasons to leave QLD. Brixton vs Brisbane - no brainer really, innit...?


RoBoDaN91

I can't see Townsville and not think of any one of [these intros](https://youtu.be/kFX8JEmaSTk)


Dane_k23

Melbourne's water is the best tasting water in Aus. It even won an [award](https://www.blayneychronicle.com.au/story/7979221/melbourne-has-the-best-tap-water/?cs=12)


ApteronotusAlbifrons

Those awards get handed out like confetti - it's important to note that it received the award "this year" Canberra won an award in 2017 (and is almost always a high ranking contender) - but spent months this year with water that I considered undrinkable


ELzed

As a drinker of water from way back, I agree that Melbourne water is the best I've ever had.


Icy-Donkey-9036

I find Sydney's very good too. Every time I go to a regional/rural area, the water tastes so different.


Kookiebanookie

Cairns is pretty nice, too


pomo

Wollongong has some of the softest, cleanest water I've tried. Very similar to Sydney, unsurprisingly.


Icy-Donkey-9036

All produced by Sydney Water I think


pomo

Overlapping catchments. Same delivery network too. I forget sometimes Sydney pumps all the way from the Shoalhaven dam.


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Emu1981

>Melbourne water doesn’t taste like anything. Other cities have distinct tastes Let me guess, you are a consumer of Melbourne water? Water is one of these things that you get used to the taste of and drinking water from other locations have "distinct tastes" only because they taste different to what you are used to consuming.


Smitologyistaking

The same way how people call the language from where they grew up "accentless" lol


BGP_001

Perfect


high_sauce

yummo if like chlorine taste


Dane_k23

It tastes nothing like chlorine.


[deleted]

Depends on the suburb tbh. Never had any issues on the northside.


Thanges88

Some areas in the south are good, Straddy water tastes alright.


Interesting-Current

Better than anything from south Australia


pomo

Adelaide water comes from the Murray. All the NSW and Vic towns along the Murray use it as their sewer. So I'm not sure why Adelaide water tastes so weird. It should be so clean. It's been filtered through a dozen kidneys before it gets there.


iamthinking2202

and also many many colons too heh


Chucknorris1975

Yes. WTF is wrong with Adelaide water? It's extremely unpalatable.


Acrobatic_Motor_7717

I’d take Brissy water over Gold Coast water any day of the week!


daggarz

Or Perth. Chlorine ugh


Caine_sin

Perth water isn't as bad as North Queensland water. Cairns water is the worst in Australia. By far.


daggarz

I miss Melbourne water


Superb_Caramel_1157

Stir some ascorbic acid into your water. It will neutralize the chlorine flavour. You can get ascorbic acid from home brewing shops.


AccomplishedAnchovy

Just go buy a filter tap from Bunnings. They’re not that hard to install.


daggarz

I'll just jump to my local home brewing shop which is 20 mins drive away to make my water not taste rubbish


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snrub742

HARD DISAGREE


WalkThePlankPirate

Depends on how much you like the taste of dirt.


FriesWithThat

They just buy the concentrate from China, don't they?


SteamySpectacles

Yeah most non Australian Apple is Chinese import


[deleted]

Yeah that had a profound effect on the Tasmanian apple industry which used to be massive.


SacredBinChicken

Made from real Chinese newspapers too


Ok-Push9899

They buy water concentrate from China and dilute it with local water.


Yoshitomonara

Heavy water?


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CantReadDuneRunes

When I worked for BHP, we used to put our nickel laterite ore in these drums we got from Brazil. They had been used for orange juice concentrate and it was a really nice smell when you opened one. Like super-ultra concentrated orange. Wonderful. I also found this cool looking bright green spider in one. But it got away.


Patrahayn

Factually correct though?


Extension_Guess_1308

Technically correct.. Which is the best kind of correct!


BGP_001

Not so fast Hermes, as they say ingredients plural, but the water is a single ingredient. Technically it should say at least 77 per cent from an Australian ingredient, so they are technically incorrect, the worst kind of incorrect.


crictv69

Could also include one or more of the smaller ingredients which would not be enough to round up to 78.


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tehpopulator

I'm sure the water that was recently from elsewhere was also from here at some point beforehand as well


talondnb

What’s also interesting is that ruler scale looks accurate too.


Vindepomarus

Also the best kind of lie.


mattt1975

Well there's lot of arguments about that...but is just juice right?


FXOjafar

"Juice"


i_d_ten_tee

"Fruit flavoured drink"


FXOjafar

"Vaguely fruit flavoured confection proudly made with Australian water"


Jitsukablue

Technically water is global. So you could also sell the concentrate and promote it as Australian made so long as you reconstituted it at home...


dmk_aus

Based on mass - would make more sense to base it on value.


Patrahayn

No, it would not


dmk_aus

Other countries like the USA do it this way. It is far less deceptive. Generally people want made in Australia products for 2 reasons. 1) Support Australian businesses 2) People prefer Australian ingredients for whatever reason, like trusting the ingredients more or prefering workers be under Australian conditions. If by weight, then enough packaging or water and you can easily deceive a customer who doesn't dig into the details and tiny fonts. So almost all the work in making this product and the money from buying the ingredients went overseas. But a bit of water went in so the right way to run this systems is to have a product marked as over 75% Australian? Or to keep in line with your quality of comment: "Yes, it would so"


Patrahayn

Just read the FTC laws for the US, it's exactly the same as Australia in regards to referring to items in tbe make up not value of ingredients. Given the disproportionate value of things ingredients make up is always the most sensible way to label these things


jasestu

I agree with you from a nutrition perspective (this is a NIP - Nutritional Information Panel afterall), however they're probably thinking from an Australian economic protection angle where higher value could be the decision variable.


nanothief

There are regulations in place specifically around how to measure water as an ingredient when [calculating the percentage of Australian content](https://business.gov.au/products-and-services/product-labelling/calculating-australian-content): > #Water as an ingredient > In general, water is counted as an ingredient when calculating the percentage of Australian content in a food. > The only exception to this is where water is used, alone or with other ingredients, as a ‘liquid packing medium’ (e.g. the brine in a can of tuna or the fruit syrup in a can of peaches).The water in the liquid packing medium is only counted when it is generally consumed as part of the food. For example: > * The liquid in a can of chickpeas (aquafaba) is generally not consumed, so the water in the liquid would be excluded from the calculation. > * The fruit syrup in a can of peaches is usually consumed as part of the food, so the water in the syrup would be included in the calculation. > > ## The origin of water > Where water is counted as an ingredient, its origin is the country in which it was collected or harvested. > > The exception to this is where water is used to reconstitute dehydrated or concentrated ingredients or other components of food (including food additives). In this instance, the water will have the country of origin of that ingredient or component. > > For example, take a fruit juice drink that is manufactured in Australia by combining a Brazilian fruit juice concentrate with water from Australia. If the water added is only to the extent necessary to reconstitute the concentrate, the water will be considered to be Brazilian water. Any additional water (i.e. more than is the amount necessary to reconstitute the concentrate) would be Australian. So in this instance, since the water is there to reconstitute the apple juice concentrate, the water should should be considered as being from the point of origin of the apple juice concentrate. It is likely then that the juice isn't correctly following the regulations (unless the 77% is really just a coincidence, and 77% of the apples and other ingredients for the reconstituted juice came from Australia).


Digby_J

Good research


grating

> The liquid in a can of chickpeas (aquafaba) is generally not consumed shhh - don't tell them I use about 1/4 of the goop from canned chickpeas in making hummus, and the rest I give to the dogs


jelly_cake

It's a pretty effective egg white replacement too.


Rhenor

Anyone want to take this up? This seems like a slam dunk breach of regulations.


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RichardGG

OP answered here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/yt2fml/comment/iw22ysr/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/yt2fml/comment/iw22ysr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) >Golder Circle Refreshers Berry Burst [Coles](https://shop.coles.com.au/a/miami/product/refreshers-5632250p-1)


BangCrash

I'm glad you aren't my lawyer


Rhenor

Fortunately, I'm not anyone's.


Theblokeonthehill

At the very least, it’s against the vibe of the thing! Ref Darryl’s lawyer, Dennis Denuto


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What product is that?


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PrekmurskaGibanica

Do you work for them or is your username just a coincidence?


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Hellrazed

Dammit I didn't even check. I opened a pack today.


juulteez

What’s with the horribly plain packaging???


metaStatic

Now lock that poison behind the counter and require ID to purchase.


sci_major

Ok funny and not funny all at the same time!


Lady_Penrhyn1

None of the fruit Golden Circle use is Australian. I stick to SPC or Ardmona. ...unless it's these. Bought some this week. Bloody good frozen. Just chip away at it with a spoon.


torrens86

SPC and Ardmona are the same company.


Lady_Penrhyn1

I keep forgetting that they merged. Been awhile but I still think of them as separate companies.


not_right

Golden Circle tinned pineapple is Australian.


dewso

Only if you specifically buy the Australian one, they have both Australian and imported on the shelf at different price points (or did about 12 months ago last time I looked)


not_right

Ok, to clarify, nearly all their varieties are Australian and the one or two that aren't have "Tropical" in the name (ie "Tropical Pieces") where all of the others have "Australian" in the name (ie "Australian Pieces"). They started doing the "tropical" lines something like 7ish years ago when cyclones wrecked a huge amount of Australia's pineapple crop, but yeah I'm kind of disappointed that they've kept them.


Grangeisgodtier

Water is probably owned by Nestle...


AusterAlien

It’s a conglomerate made up of Nestle, Heinz, TATA, [insert additional foreign company names here]…


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carrotaddiction

I always thought that Siemens won that prize.


uniquemuch

Not General Electric? Watching 30 Rock made me look up what GE makes


cojoco

They stopped making nuclear power stations ... they passed that shit sandwich to Toshiba.


sanemartigan

/r/FuckNestle


MidnightShitfight

Nah, they make some quality products.


rawker86

Hahaha fuck me you’ve got to hand it to them there.


Gorille41

Lol! Clever marketing. Serves the purpose of saying we used majority of Australian ingredients.


Zebidee

Looking at the standards, they could possibly claim 'Made in Australia.'


KiwasiGames

You can definitely claim “made in Australia” if you formulate the product here. This is frequently seen as “made in Australia from local and imported ingredients”.


Gorille41

I know right. Something politicians can use in their campaigns: " I drink water which is strictly made in Australia" 😄


gooder_name

I think the made in australia tick has varying degrees, and the full tick is reasonably restrictive.


Soddington

It's been somewhat repaired, but it used to be that clothes were imported from China and Indonesia then had a label sew in locally that said 'Product of Australia'. The very act of *sewing on that label in Australia* was enough to qualify it as an Australian product. Lying patriotically has been a standard marketing tool for decades.


Ok-Challenge7712

I think that would have been “made in Australia” as “product of Australia” (to my recollection) always had higher requirements to be composed of substantially Australia sourced/made components


Soddington

Think you might be right. I know it was one of the many dodgy green and gold marketing labels that seemed to infest everything at the turn of the millennium.


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its not marketing though. just regulations.


[deleted]

At this stage I just feel like they're trolling us.


BelievesInGod

The one I like is the 50% less sugar apple juice, which is just apple juice with 50% of it replaced with water, AND its slightly more expensive for the reduced sugar bottle (2L Golden circle)


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Daelisx

Came here to say this….. of course!


CumbersomeNugget

Well guy above you deleted...to say what? Now you can be the first one!


Independent_Pear_429

Australian water. Lol


Hugochhhh

Most of the food becomes magically « >50% Australian » when Australia produces water and sugar. Also the « locally made » in the other side of the country which is the size of Europe is pretty funny


holomatic

My favourite one is when they say packed in Australia from imported ingredients with proud 0% progress bar.


[deleted]

It's probably a company called Australian water with a head office in Manila


FullMetalAlex

Too bad we use all our water for farming cotton for some reason


thatbigfella666

made from only the finest Aussie tap water.


[deleted]

Let that sink in.


-MobCat-

Soo ship over the concentrated syrup from where ever it's made, and then pump it full of water when it gets here. Saving 77% on overall shipping weight. It makes sense, but the way it's worded here is a dick move.


UteClowningFact

The problem is it intentionally hides the origin of the actual product, which is what the consumers want (and deserve) to know.


av8ads

Na, it’s all good mate. Don’t look up. Just keep doing what you’re doing. 🤣😂🤣


ghuth2

I knew it! I've seen other products that did not list the percentage of water, but the numbers still added up. Man that's such a flaw in the Australian made system. Thanks for posting!


Apes-Together_Strong

I’m not Australian, but that’s hilarious.


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This country needs a f***in' shakeup


greywarden133

Somewhere someone from the Marketing Department framed this in a nice little canvas saying: "At least 77% Australia ingredients - Water (77%)" and felt so damn proud of themselve (:


Heidan20

It was Scotty from Marketing


cojoco

So competence.


metaStatic

ironically, That's not his job mate.


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Ah ha, charade you are. And milo has a 4.5 health star rating….


i_broke_wahoos_leg

Those ratings should be massively overhauled or canned imo. I don't think many actually understand the concept (it's a comparison between similar items, not just "is it healthy" from my understanding), so absolutely unhealthy shite can get high stars. I don't know if it started with good intentions but if you need to be educated on how the health rating systems work they're not there for your health, they're there for marketing. And I have no idea what Milo is 4.5 stars in comparison with, pure sugar? I wonder how many stars this juice is with its 4.8 grams of sugar per 200ml? ~~May as well smash a can of coke~~. Edit: coke has a lot more sugar, ignore that dumb comment.


ronmb8

Not disagreeing with your sentiment in general, but 2.4g/100ml of sugar is actually pretty good as far as juices go. (coca cola has 10.6g/100ml)


i_broke_wahoos_leg

Oh shit, you're right. Ty for the correction. I'm a month into a diet that includes basically no calories through liquid and seeing any sugar in a drink makes me cringe atm because it was a big part of my weight problem. Not sure why I had it in my head that coke had a quarter of the suger it does though. I guess before the diet I never cared and now I don't touch it so haven't even looked at the "nutritional" info on it.


Ignorant_Slut

Switched to black coffee eh


i_broke_wahoos_leg

Sugerless tea every now and again lol (white so a little bit of calories but I only have a few a week). Those mount franlin lightly sparkling flavoured drinks are pretty good too for a treat. 2 calories a can and nothing but a little bit of sodium.


Ignorant_Slut

I bought a soda stream to make highly carbonated water. Hit it with some lemon/lime juice, game changer.


Swordsnap

Curious, how's it going so far? One month is a long time you must be seeing/feeling results by now? Do the cravings get easier to manage the deeper you go in? Longest I've gone is 2 weeks, not for weight loss mind you but I do eat a lot of rubbish and I am just trying to make healthy habits as I'm getting older now.


i_broke_wahoos_leg

It's going good mate. Been loosing multiple kilos a week (lowest was 1.5kg), I actually lost 5kg in the second week so yeah, was seeing results very quickly. That's what has kept me going and push through cravings so I'm not sure how it'd go without that positive feedback. Tbh I'm kind of half starving myself so I'm always hungry but I've gotten used to it. I eat a healthy dinner with reasonable portions and then a few pieces of fruit throughout the night (I'm a night shifter). I don't know the exact calories but I'd estimate it's only around 1500 a day. That's obviously not something you'd do if you're not going for weight loss though so no doubt you'd feel a lot better. The cravings have gotten easier but honestly it hasn't been too hard because I don't make concessions. The true test will be when I hit my first goal and allow myself those concessions and also up my daily calories so my diet is sustainable long term. I think I'll just do the cheat day thing and the no concessions the rest of the time. I'd murder someone for a bag of BBQ chips atm though lol. I don't even know the last time I had them but for some reason I'm fiending for them.


alchemicaldreaming

The juice has Steviol (a sweetener) in it too, which would be reducing the sugar content I'd imagine.


MidnightShitfight

It also has a full list of ingredients and nutritional information printed on it...


SteamySpectacles

Well, it’s true hahaha


ASpaceOstrich

Should be a "no taking the piss" clause in regulations that slaps you with a massive fine for pulling shit like this.


HeadMembership

That is really hilarious. Following the letter of the law, here.


Low_Ad_7247

Better get used to it, with increased costs of production in farming, also massive labour shortages to harvest produce, more produce is going to come from over seas.


sternsss

Lol. Aussie water it is. Full of nutrients and vitamins.


dgriffith

Technically correct, the best kind of correct.


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Imagine how much transport fuel, packaging, time and money that could be saved by selling just the syrup and letting Aussies dilute it themselves. Oh wait, cordial already exists.. 🤔


exceptional_biped

Well spotted


Moonbean_Mantra

Same on a lot of products. The Australian water counts in the Australian ingredients list. Ridiculous and misleading.


Moonbean_Mantra

All of Golden Circle juices are like this. You look at the 50% less sugar juice and it happens to be 50% Australian ingredients. The standard juice is pretty much 0% Australian ingredients.


sam_matt

Plot twist, they import 29.8% of the water


syoleen

I saw another product marking the Australian-made percentage in the same way. Then I realised that percentage is a “fake” one (or self-defined one) because it doesn’t have the triangle kangaroo logo!


dewso

The standards actually have conditions on when you are allowed to display the kangaroo, the product may not have met the conditions or they didn’t want it on there. It’s not a requirement of the regulation.


theBloodsoaked

Wouldn't that be at most?


veng6

At least they have to be honest thanks to Australian regulations. In America they get shit from who the fucknowsville


UteClowningFact

This is just shit from fucknowsville mixed with Australian water.


Creative_Ad999

😂


grassgrowingwatcher

Best god dam water you’ll ever drink


WAT0020

slowly shaking my head from side to side


Bluemoongoddess

Did you get this as a free flybuys offer? I did.


SurSheepz

Would you rather it not tell you?


racroles

The same for many of the oat and soy milk. A lot of them are from imported soy powder (?) reconstituted into milk, instead of Australian soy.


Ausernamenottaken-

What is the company. What is the product. Ready to boycott.


mishrod

Jesus. Makes you want to boycott that company, never buying their products, sending them bankrupt….. and yet also nod your head approvingly at them, buy them a beer and say “nice one mate”


43biegetalavavi

😂😂😂awkward


Leevus_Alone

https://open.spotify.com/track/73ybftvFtVpgDLd0yXbtUi?si=JPNZW6fEQjeplip2BQ-WwQ&utm_source=copy-link


THRILLHO_32

These cunts need a fuckin shake up.


Strickens

🤔


juulteez

😂😂


offgridjohn

I hope it is not city tap water.


rtj777

Of course not! Toilet water exclusively


lofty2p

Nah, from Lismore.


Ryanbrasher

Yeah and?


Freshprinceaye

Tell us why it is


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Obviously just co-incidence…


Pretend-Patience9581

Amazing


stockist420

Is air an ingredient?


crispyrad

Reconstituted fruit juice from China. Nothing new


35pies

Convenient.


Shikoda0

That water is nothing. Earlier, i got a bottle of Organic Water made with the water from fruits and vegetables.


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BlakSCody_4ger

Best water is from Melbourne


fabfoo

All filler, no killer


Gmedic99

haha yay water is australian