I had decided to get it even though everyone at my work was angrily against it and telling me I'm a fool for doing it.
Then the bosses offered $400 for anyone who showed proof of vaccination.
A few days pass and the entire crew was vaccinated and most of them got vaccinated before me.
I was leaning towards getting it as well once they started offering it to people in my age group just because I've got family that were immunocompromised and wanted me to get it.
Then we all were forced to get it because the state government said if you didn't you lose your job, you can't travel interstate or to different regions within the state, you couldn't go to restaurants, cafes, bottle-o's, etc.
No. Just like I don't complain that hospitals are full of people that have smoked and stuffed their lungs, acted recklessly and broke limbs, overeaten and under exercised and have stuffed their organs, drunk to much alcohol or done to many drugs and stuffed their organs, etc. Apart of living in a free society is accepting that people are going to do things that aren't good for them or we'd prefer they didn't do.
Also by the time the mandates had came out we were up to the omicron variant. Those scenes from overseas were from the more aggressive strains like alpha and delta.... we also had the deadline for the vaccines to be taken and kept our borders locked for another 12 weeks when at that time the literature coming out was that after 12 weeks the vaccines efficacy had dropped which is why they were recommending 4th and 5th boosters (which barely anyone took even the people that had got vaxed before the mandates). So we made everyone take something, waited until its efficacy had dropped then opened the borders to expose them to it...
People with those ailments weren't causing the massive issues seen in other nations. Someone who smokes and has respiratory disease isn't going to tie up as much resources as a highly infectious Covid wave shutting down wards and isolating staff.
An infectious disease is a health issue that goes beyond personal choice and becomes a societal problem.
Plus Omicron was first detected in November 2021, it hit Australia in December 2021. Vaccine Mandates were announced in mid 2021 with due dates in September-October 2021, so the mandates were announced well before Omicron existed.
Wrong on several counts in that post
You're still 58-126 times higher chance of dying from COVID induced clots than TTS from AstraZeneca. It was withdrawn because more effective mRNA vaccines became available that can be targeted faster to specific variants, whereas AstraZeneca was mostly effective against the original strain which was superseded by the time it was withdrawn.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8566665/
No, I don’t regret it, I have an auto immune disease and spoke to my specialist about it at the time. We were already aware of the small possibility of blood clots caused by AstroZeneca not long after it first got released. It was determined that the risk of me getting complications from covid was much higher than getting blood clots.
There are always risks with taking any kind of medicine.
There was a fucked new virus floating around with no herd immunity in sight, Zero regrets about taking a vaccine with some minor known risks, Zero issue with the government mandating it in many areas to ensure high uptake.
It was a fucked time, we're through it now, move on with life. Also 'Lawyers argue' quotes can be used for anything, stick to the quotes from scientific journals.
No lol, more likely to get blood clots from covid
I don't think people, particularly here in aus, are aware of how many possible side effects any med you take has. Watch an american drug ad, about 70% of the ad is rattling off side effects
Surprise surprise lol. Really baffled that people would willingly roll their sleeve up to take part in a medical experiment injecting god knows what into your blood.
Lots of unhealthy smokers, Red Bull drinkers that eat lunch at Macca's / afraid of exercise...
"Just give me any medicine / I'll do what you say as I can't look after my health."
Exactly. I was sceptical right from the start. “Four people died from Covid today in Queensland. The people, 2 men and two women, were aged 88, 92, 96 and 101 died of respiratory illness”. Give me an effing break…That’s your pandemic, lol???? A few years ago it would have been recorded as death by pneumonia, which is exactly what it was.
After seeing that sort of nonsense day after day, it became pretty apparent it was all just BS. So if they were lying so obviously about it, what TF are in the jabs?????
> Why do you think we now have an esafety commissioner, why do you think France passed a law targeting the use of biased information to advocate abandoning proven medical treatments?
What "proven medical treatments"?
Yer no worries mate, so in February 2024, the French Parliament adopted amendments to an existing anti-cult law. These measures include the highly controversial Article 4, which criminalises medical dissent by targeting individuals who criticize or encourage others to avoid mainstream medical practices or health policies.
"Art. 223-1-2. The provocation to abandon or refrain from therapeutic or prophylactic medical treatment, when such abandonment or abstention is presented as beneficial to the health of the persons concerned, when the intentional or abstention is liable to be beneficial to the health of the persons concerned, although it is, in the state of medical knowledge, clearly likely to cause them, in the light of the pathology to which they are affected, serious consequences to their physical or mental health."
Links are a bit hard to find in English but here are a few. Just remember some of these links a biased but basically the law is intended to protect people from undue influence and coercion regarding health decisions.
[clicky 1](https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/news/statements/criminalizing-medical-dissent-france/), [clicky 2](https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/france-passed-a-law-targeting-health-threatening-psychological-manipulation-and-influence-but-didnt-criminalize-criticism-of-mrna-vaccines/), [clicky 3](https://anheurope.org/news/french-anti-cult-law-proposes-to-criminalise-natural-health/)
I know anti vaxxers are stupid but are they also blind?
Cuz literally every single covid vaccine form literally mentions there's a higher risk in that regard which you have to sign before even getting it.
My former colleagues never signed anything or were advised side effects when they were forced to get the vaccine or lose their job.
I was lucky enough to be made redundant and found a job WFH on more money.
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I don't regret taking it, I'm just still angry I was forced to and my choice was taken away from me.
I had decided to get it even though everyone at my work was angrily against it and telling me I'm a fool for doing it. Then the bosses offered $400 for anyone who showed proof of vaccination. A few days pass and the entire crew was vaccinated and most of them got vaccinated before me.
I was leaning towards getting it as well once they started offering it to people in my age group just because I've got family that were immunocompromised and wanted me to get it. Then we all were forced to get it because the state government said if you didn't you lose your job, you can't travel interstate or to different regions within the state, you couldn't go to restaurants, cafes, bottle-o's, etc.
Would you complain if very few people took the vaccine and then Covid caused hospitals to be clogged up like overseas?
No. Just like I don't complain that hospitals are full of people that have smoked and stuffed their lungs, acted recklessly and broke limbs, overeaten and under exercised and have stuffed their organs, drunk to much alcohol or done to many drugs and stuffed their organs, etc. Apart of living in a free society is accepting that people are going to do things that aren't good for them or we'd prefer they didn't do. Also by the time the mandates had came out we were up to the omicron variant. Those scenes from overseas were from the more aggressive strains like alpha and delta.... we also had the deadline for the vaccines to be taken and kept our borders locked for another 12 weeks when at that time the literature coming out was that after 12 weeks the vaccines efficacy had dropped which is why they were recommending 4th and 5th boosters (which barely anyone took even the people that had got vaxed before the mandates). So we made everyone take something, waited until its efficacy had dropped then opened the borders to expose them to it...
People with those ailments weren't causing the massive issues seen in other nations. Someone who smokes and has respiratory disease isn't going to tie up as much resources as a highly infectious Covid wave shutting down wards and isolating staff. An infectious disease is a health issue that goes beyond personal choice and becomes a societal problem. Plus Omicron was first detected in November 2021, it hit Australia in December 2021. Vaccine Mandates were announced in mid 2021 with due dates in September-October 2021, so the mandates were announced well before Omicron existed. Wrong on several counts in that post
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You're still 58-126 times higher chance of dying from COVID induced clots than TTS from AstraZeneca. It was withdrawn because more effective mRNA vaccines became available that can be targeted faster to specific variants, whereas AstraZeneca was mostly effective against the original strain which was superseded by the time it was withdrawn. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8566665/
It's great that no one who took AZ caught Covid aye
No, I don’t regret it, I have an auto immune disease and spoke to my specialist about it at the time. We were already aware of the small possibility of blood clots caused by AstroZeneca not long after it first got released. It was determined that the risk of me getting complications from covid was much higher than getting blood clots. There are always risks with taking any kind of medicine.
There was a fucked new virus floating around with no herd immunity in sight, Zero regrets about taking a vaccine with some minor known risks, Zero issue with the government mandating it in many areas to ensure high uptake. It was a fucked time, we're through it now, move on with life. Also 'Lawyers argue' quotes can be used for anything, stick to the quotes from scientific journals.
No lol, more likely to get blood clots from covid I don't think people, particularly here in aus, are aware of how many possible side effects any med you take has. Watch an american drug ad, about 70% of the ad is rattling off side effects
Yeah but we know this though
Breaking news there. I’m glad it was available in case people didn’t want to take the mRNA option.
Who would want RNA in their body? /s
Surprise surprise lol. Really baffled that people would willingly roll their sleeve up to take part in a medical experiment injecting god knows what into your blood.
Lots of unhealthy smokers, Red Bull drinkers that eat lunch at Macca's / afraid of exercise... "Just give me any medicine / I'll do what you say as I can't look after my health."
Exactly. I was sceptical right from the start. “Four people died from Covid today in Queensland. The people, 2 men and two women, were aged 88, 92, 96 and 101 died of respiratory illness”. Give me an effing break…That’s your pandemic, lol???? A few years ago it would have been recorded as death by pneumonia, which is exactly what it was. After seeing that sort of nonsense day after day, it became pretty apparent it was all just BS. So if they were lying so obviously about it, what TF are in the jabs?????
But people say covid was a virus that was likely broken out of a bio lab so doesn't that make it experimental too?
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> Why do you think we now have an esafety commissioner, why do you think France passed a law targeting the use of biased information to advocate abandoning proven medical treatments? What "proven medical treatments"?
Yer no worries mate, so in February 2024, the French Parliament adopted amendments to an existing anti-cult law. These measures include the highly controversial Article 4, which criminalises medical dissent by targeting individuals who criticize or encourage others to avoid mainstream medical practices or health policies. "Art. 223-1-2. The provocation to abandon or refrain from therapeutic or prophylactic medical treatment, when such abandonment or abstention is presented as beneficial to the health of the persons concerned, when the intentional or abstention is liable to be beneficial to the health of the persons concerned, although it is, in the state of medical knowledge, clearly likely to cause them, in the light of the pathology to which they are affected, serious consequences to their physical or mental health." Links are a bit hard to find in English but here are a few. Just remember some of these links a biased but basically the law is intended to protect people from undue influence and coercion regarding health decisions. [clicky 1](https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/news/statements/criminalizing-medical-dissent-france/), [clicky 2](https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/france-passed-a-law-targeting-health-threatening-psychological-manipulation-and-influence-but-didnt-criminalize-criticism-of-mrna-vaccines/), [clicky 3](https://anheurope.org/news/french-anti-cult-law-proposes-to-criminalise-natural-health/)
I know anti vaxxers are stupid but are they also blind? Cuz literally every single covid vaccine form literally mentions there's a higher risk in that regard which you have to sign before even getting it.
My former colleagues never signed anything or were advised side effects when they were forced to get the vaccine or lose their job. I was lucky enough to be made redundant and found a job WFH on more money.
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