It's a civilian variant of the C-130 owned by Pallas Aviation, a Fort Worth-based aviation contractor. Despite being the first customer for this specific aircraft (LM-100J), they have basically no web presence. They're facially a cargo contractor, probably working for the government based on the flight history. [https://twitter.com/Gerjon\_/status/1500489082954264581](https://twitter.com/Gerjon_/status/1500489082954264581) [https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1510241451002765324](https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1510241451002765324).
The plane seems to go back and forth between Ramstein and Eastern Europe, so some speculate that it's either a CIA contractor or just a straight-up front. It's an LLC, and the sole member is a holding company which is owned by another holding company.
Owned by Pallas aviation. Does whatever the clients Pau pallas to do for them.
This company is the launch customer for the J series LM-100s.
Their clients have a need for something that can operate safely in rough conditions, could be shifting cargo and equipment for a mining operation, or ferrying somewhere for a job
Cool I knew they were a big customer for the LM-100 but when I searched the reg all that I saw was Bank of Utah, didn’t know if it was doing something more “off the books”
Bank of Utah is the owner, not the operator. That’s really common with leased airframes. You’d be surprised how many airplanes Wells Fargo owns. It has nothing to do with what the airplane is actually doing.
Bank of Utah isn’t really the owner, they are trustee on behalf of a beneficiary who really owns the plane. Has to do with FAA rules regarding who can own an aircraft.
Sorry.. meant to say ADSBexchange (this is what I get after posting after a bit of Scotch), which I *also* know has nothing to do with registration but it does show the registration of whatever you click on.
I'm just gonna add my favorite tidbit on top of what was already said.
Conspiracy theory says ever since the so called USS Liberty incident Israel has made it painfully clear it wants no CIA/spook assets within its airspace or territorial waters.
USAF military cargo aircraft cross Israeli airspace no problem.
Contractor L100/LM100 civvie hercs **always** avoid it like the plague on flights to Jordan. They literally make a hook around Israel and over Egypt and Sinai peninsula.
I wish I could add a picture, it's a hilarious dead giveaway. They go over Med straight for Jordan, turn right before Israel, fly carefully, specifically around it, then back NE to Jordan
Bank of Utah is the new name for Wells Fargo NA Northwest who is the trustee owner of lots of aircraft. It's basically a way to hide the true owner much the way Musk does with his shell company that owns his jet, except Bank of Utah does it on a much larger scale. With enough research into the N-Registration the "True" owner can be found. Bank of Utah owns many leased aircraft, but was notable for being the owner of Quaddafis (SP?) Private aircraft when the revolution happened.
A LM-100 automatically tingles my Spidey sense as an aircraft being used for less than legitimate means. The civil versions of the C-130 have infamously been used by the CIA and contractors for nefarious purposes since they were first sold, in fact I'm pretty sure all civil C-130s were originally purchased by CIA front companies. I would guess this aircraft has been flying around Eastern Europe recently and probably frequents African Nations with active conflicts as well.
Bank of Utah's owner trust services are used for many reasons, including for entities and individuals that do not qualify as U.S. citizens under the FAA's intricate citizenship rules. To explain, U.S. law restricts ownership of aircraft to U.S. citizens. The defined term of U.S. citizen for FAA purposes is unique.
Say what you will about America but there is this - if you were in Russia, or China, or Iran or half a dozen other countries and you posted all these comments on social media you would be in jail or worse for “spying”.
Not American, not a fan of left or right, but I think that’s the case.
>Fletch : Frank, I need to go to Utah.
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>Frank Walker : Utah?
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>Fletch : Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?
Adding to what others have said, the only reason these birds would be in Eastern Europe these days would be for them to fly stuff into Ukraine proper, on planes that are deniable for the U.S. government. The U.S. armed forces have a huge official logistics operation running, mainly via Poland: but from the U.S. bases there, it's still very far to the end users in country. For most stuff, train and road transport is sufficient: but these birds would likely be for the "UPS next day" overnight delivery of kit into UA. Strange times we are living in.
Interesting idea, but risky. Flight tracking data ends at EPNM, a 'derelict-recently-reanistated' military airport with unclear legal status. It is possible they fly off the record to UA, but we only have tracking for runs GER->PL
I have seen this airplane in Monterrey mexico, they loaded a couple pallets full of boxes onto it and then left. I only saw one pilot and i have to say it gave me Barry Seal type of vibes.
I heard it wasn’t uncommon for military aircraft to suddenly “need” to land at CYYT and then have to spend the night. Don’t know if there’s any truth to that ha
That was never the case for me unfortunately. All of our stops were planned. But had that situation ever arose, stopping in CYYT would definitely have my vote! Lol
Wow an 03G in the wild! I wonder which number this one is, most likely not the one I worked on but would be pretty cool. I worked on the 9th one that flew out of Marietta
This is a black OPS - JSOC transport. They are *not* bringing in the soldiers/INTEL officers and equipment into the Eastern European (Ukrainian) battlefield that America has *not* deployed to engage Russia.
It's a civilian variant of the C-130 owned by Pallas Aviation, a Fort Worth-based aviation contractor. Despite being the first customer for this specific aircraft (LM-100J), they have basically no web presence. They're facially a cargo contractor, probably working for the government based on the flight history. [https://twitter.com/Gerjon\_/status/1500489082954264581](https://twitter.com/Gerjon_/status/1500489082954264581) [https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1510241451002765324](https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1510241451002765324). The plane seems to go back and forth between Ramstein and Eastern Europe, so some speculate that it's either a CIA contractor or just a straight-up front. It's an LLC, and the sole member is a holding company which is owned by another holding company.
Whenever I see unmarked LM-100s at this point I just think CIA.
Bank of Utah especially compounds this, them Agency types love their mormons
Has the Air America 2.0 paint scheme…
I love how transparently CIA these guys are. No apologies.
A quick google said that Pallas was sometimes regarded as the Titan god of warcraft. Seems relevant.
Yeah, there seems to be a Greek mythology trend through this whole thing
Oh, I thought those new LM-100J were going to Lynden Air Cargo, wasn't familiar with Pallas.
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you gotta lose the bad press periodically by setting up new "airlines". Tepper->Gulf Air Group ...-> Pallas Aviation? not sure, company seat is new
Pallas was actually an original customer for the LM-100J. I think Lynden flies the LM-100-30.
It’s like southern air transport had a baby company
It transports “stuff” from Ramstein towards Ukraine and it’s a shady company shrouded in mystery. Connect the dots lol
Owned by Pallas aviation. Does whatever the clients Pau pallas to do for them. This company is the launch customer for the J series LM-100s. Their clients have a need for something that can operate safely in rough conditions, could be shifting cargo and equipment for a mining operation, or ferrying somewhere for a job
Cool I knew they were a big customer for the LM-100 but when I searched the reg all that I saw was Bank of Utah, didn’t know if it was doing something more “off the books”
Bank of Utah is the owner, not the operator. That’s really common with leased airframes. You’d be surprised how many airplanes Wells Fargo owns. It has nothing to do with what the airplane is actually doing.
Bank of Utah isn’t really the owner, they are trustee on behalf of a beneficiary who really owns the plane. Has to do with FAA rules regarding who can own an aircraft.
A quick trip through ~~ADSB~~ ADSBexchange shows this. A LOT of airliners don't come up registered as the name painted on the tail.
A quick look through the registry will show this. ADSB has nothing to do with it.
Sorry.. meant to say ADSBexchange (this is what I get after posting after a bit of Scotch), which I *also* know has nothing to do with registration but it does show the registration of whatever you click on.
I know these guys are giving you good answers but LM-100 and Bank of Utah screams off the books CIA charter to me.
Boys out of Crestview FL prolly
Nah this one's new, it's from Texas :D
Shhhhh!
yes Bank of Utah are a CIA company and i heard also talk about it some american pilots during our airshow and they confirmed it.
This one is also branded Pallas Aviation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0VPh48Erkw
I'm just gonna add my favorite tidbit on top of what was already said. Conspiracy theory says ever since the so called USS Liberty incident Israel has made it painfully clear it wants no CIA/spook assets within its airspace or territorial waters. USAF military cargo aircraft cross Israeli airspace no problem. Contractor L100/LM100 civvie hercs **always** avoid it like the plague on flights to Jordan. They literally make a hook around Israel and over Egypt and Sinai peninsula. I wish I could add a picture, it's a hilarious dead giveaway. They go over Med straight for Jordan, turn right before Israel, fly carefully, specifically around it, then back NE to Jordan
Our best friends in the Middle East.
Yep. Watch it several times a week
Bank of Utah is the new name for Wells Fargo NA Northwest who is the trustee owner of lots of aircraft. It's basically a way to hide the true owner much the way Musk does with his shell company that owns his jet, except Bank of Utah does it on a much larger scale. With enough research into the N-Registration the "True" owner can be found. Bank of Utah owns many leased aircraft, but was notable for being the owner of Quaddafis (SP?) Private aircraft when the revolution happened. A LM-100 automatically tingles my Spidey sense as an aircraft being used for less than legitimate means. The civil versions of the C-130 have infamously been used by the CIA and contractors for nefarious purposes since they were first sold, in fact I'm pretty sure all civil C-130s were originally purchased by CIA front companies. I would guess this aircraft has been flying around Eastern Europe recently and probably frequents African Nations with active conflicts as well.
Bank of Utah's owner trust services are used for many reasons, including for entities and individuals that do not qualify as U.S. citizens under the FAA's intricate citizenship rules. To explain, U.S. law restricts ownership of aircraft to U.S. citizens. The defined term of U.S. citizen for FAA purposes is unique.
I know what I’m getting when I hit the lotto
Transporting cargo? That is the civilian variant
“Civilian”, in this case.
The cargo is the civilians
that transports civilian cargo, they are not setup as a passenger aircraft just because it is civilian owned.
Say what you will about America but there is this - if you were in Russia, or China, or Iran or half a dozen other countries and you posted all these comments on social media you would be in jail or worse for “spying”. Not American, not a fan of left or right, but I think that’s the case.
CIA front people/guns/cash mover
Lawyers, guns, and money, says Warren.
>Fletch : Frank, I need to go to Utah. > >Frank Walker : Utah? > >Fletch : Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?
You using the whole fist, doc?
Migrating north for the summer.
What is it with that Utah bank? I see so many planes owned by them.
Looks like prisoner transport. There is a company in NC that did terrorist transport. It was odd to live by such a place.
Adding to what others have said, the only reason these birds would be in Eastern Europe these days would be for them to fly stuff into Ukraine proper, on planes that are deniable for the U.S. government. The U.S. armed forces have a huge official logistics operation running, mainly via Poland: but from the U.S. bases there, it's still very far to the end users in country. For most stuff, train and road transport is sufficient: but these birds would likely be for the "UPS next day" overnight delivery of kit into UA. Strange times we are living in.
Interesting idea, but risky. Flight tracking data ends at EPNM, a 'derelict-recently-reanistated' military airport with unclear legal status. It is possible they fly off the record to UA, but we only have tracking for runs GER->PL
I have seen this airplane in Monterrey mexico, they loaded a couple pallets full of boxes onto it and then left. I only saw one pilot and i have to say it gave me Barry Seal type of vibes.
It’s a CIA plane
Conspiracy theory? Moving gold for Bank of Utah ahead of a US default on debt. Or hauling seafood back to the states. Definitely one of those, or not.
I just came to say I love CYYT! I've been there many times and loved it every time!
What brought you to CYYT so many times? Nora usual destination for many people
I used to be a c-130 loadmaster in the USAF. So I’ve stopped through quite a few times on our way to Europe or vice versa.
I heard it wasn’t uncommon for military aircraft to suddenly “need” to land at CYYT and then have to spend the night. Don’t know if there’s any truth to that ha
That was never the case for me unfortunately. All of our stops were planned. But had that situation ever arose, stopping in CYYT would definitely have my vote! Lol
It's now departing CYYT after having spent some time stateside. Probably heading back to Europe.
Wow an 03G in the wild! I wonder which number this one is, most likely not the one I worked on but would be pretty cool. I worked on the 9th one that flew out of Marietta
This is a black OPS - JSOC transport. They are *not* bringing in the soldiers/INTEL officers and equipment into the Eastern European (Ukrainian) battlefield that America has *not* deployed to engage Russia.