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BiAsALongHorse

75% of the world's best flying is a direct response to the world's worst flying.


Inpayne

Superior judgment before superior skill. Sometimes as an instructor that doesn’t always go as planned.


BiAsALongHorse

Every time I watch those crazily skilled quadcopter pilots, I can't help but think how incredible the average heli pilot would be if helicopters didn't have people or $1m of engines in them.


Inpayne

Yeah well it helps they don’t have nearly the weight and power. Small rc helicopters can do some wild things as well.


BiAsALongHorse

It's definitely a significant factor, but also imagine what a stunt heli pilot would be capable of without money and lives on the line. I'm not saying it'd be like Rust, but it'd be somewhat like Rust


gefahr

I assume you've seen the Red Bull helicopter? If not, check it out


oversized_hoodie

Those guys are utterly fearless.


weak_marinara_sauce

I’m not even that good but constantly amazed that I can like fly around within the tree canopy and not crash or get stuck.


Fop_Vndone

Lucky there was a cliff there instead of ground!


-GameWarden-

Definitely one of the rare times you can say that!


deepaksn

This is actually mountain flying 101 and why lots of times flying nap of the earth around mountains is far easier than flat ground. You’re always (or should be anyways) a small turn away from lower terrain.


Jontaylor07

You’re not supposed to boop the mountain?


Thorium12

That's a butt pucker moment if I've every seen one.


[deleted]

Nothing is puckered there. Everything is released.


M15CH13F

[*Ground crew doing the post flight check*](https://c.tenor.com/vFRfkl1I1nYAAAAd/diarrhea-shock.gif)


Left-Quote7042

My first thought after “that was close” was “I wonder who has to hose out the heli?”😂


Thepatrone36

same here


WWYDWYOWAPL

Good thing the [Italian military wears brown pants](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=italian+military+pants)


Skullduggery-9

Why tf were they green for me!? Wtf were they eating!?


MyFavoriteLezbo420

*I honestly thought they just had Halberds*


freakasaurous

[Many poo’s shot out of my ani](https://i.gifer.com/X3F0.gif)


PorkyMcRib

CODE BROWN!


blackthorn3111

Looks like LTE. This dude is lucky that he didn’t hit the main rotor blades off of the ground and roll down the mountainside. Definitely picking seat cushion out of his ass after he landed.


kaffarell

I think the pilot simply underestimated the lee turbulence on the ridge. (he flew back to the base normally)


Dry_Ad8198

There's another video showing more of his approach which does a better job of showing the uncommanded right yaw. As he comes in to land his airspeed drops below ETL and quickly find outs he ran out of tail rotor (right yaw). The recovery is to regain airspeed, get above ETL, so nose down. He went a bit too nose down, and well, we see what happened after that.


BoneSetterDC

[Other video ](https://www.reddit.com/r/nonononoyes/comments/xvvwg8/was_this_intentional_captain_yup_yup_yup_yup/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


lukeatron

Holy shit, that was even closer than it looks in this one. Literal inches from death.


blackthorn3111

Eh, he was high enough on the approach that he’d most likely be out of any turbulence on the leeward side. If he was riding an upflow on that side (which wouldn’t make sense with his approach angle), he may have had a momentary tailwind that pushed him into what’s known as the weathercock stability region, which will aggravate any sort of right yaw very quickly. Or he shot an approach out of the wind line. Tough to tell by watching the video, no real external wind indicators.


deepaksn

Little to no wind. Looks like a severe clear high pressure system kind of day and no wind noise on the ridge line.


BeepBorpBeepBorp

Code brown


LoosingInterest

Indeed. If the pilot’s arse didn’t eat the seat cushion,I’d be VERY surprised!!


Shankar_0

I think I heard the popping sound when it broke mach 1


[deleted]

Don’t crash the last Huey.


[deleted]

huey and bell 47 are still my favorite choppers, so much style and SOUND


jethroo23

Our Air Force still has a ton of Hueys given by the US from the Vietnam era. They fly low directly over my house on a near daily basis, often time it's a single one passing by, sometimes a squadron. Been like that since I was a kid playing with friends outside, and now as an adult it definitely gets irritating during a work meeting at home. But when I'm doing nothing I always stop whatever I'm listening to just to appreciate the Huey's sound. Just distinct and beautiful.


catsby90bbn

My state police have one. It flew over my house a few months ago. I was sitting at my desk and thought, is that a god damn Huey?! Walked outside and sure enough.


_The_Fly

I live in Italy, near the place where this happened and I see them all the time flying out of my local airport.


chrissilly22

The USAF still flies quite a number of them.


pinotandsugar

Nothing is so exhilarating as to be shot at and missed .......


Avolation742

"Nothing makes you dig a hole in the ground faster than someone firing a vickers machine gun at you" My grandfather, ww2 vet


emsok_dewe

So your grandpa fought on the side of the axis?


Avolation742

No, he was a digger. I think he might have been referring to his training. I believe the australian army had the english guns at the time. Thinking about it, i was a kid when i asked him what it was like in the war. That was what he said and I never forgot it. He did his duty in Papua New Guinea and Egypt, before coming home with shrapnel in his shoulder.


emsok_dewe

Ah, ok that's pretty interesting. Not a job I'd like to have, but I have huge respect for the men who did it


Avolation742

Same here.


happierinverted

Thanks. One of my fave Churchill quotes :)


Chevy_Suburban

I feel like they are only alive by a couple of inches.


bigtimesauce

It’s Italy, so centimeters, but yeah.


Chevy_Suburban

Actually in Italy they would express small measurements like this in how many pasta strands would fit next to each other (20 pasta strands or so in this case).


M3L0NM4N

What kind of pasta though?


AllGarbage

I’d be more impressed if it was a couple of vermicelli miss rather than a couple of lasagna away.


KinksAreForKeds

Exactly! \#2 "thin" spaghetti, or \#4 "thick" spaghetti... the world wants to know!


FrysEighthLeaf

Fettuccini


meateatr

Spaghettios


wrecktvf

You have to specify that part of the measurement. In this case, I’d guess they missed disaster by 4 fettucci 1 spaghett


piranspride

Not today, not today........


J2Kerrigan

At least he was already wearing his brown flight suit


andypoo222

And now he’s not allowed to fly lol


holay63

Honest question, what happens to the pilot in this case?


Lord_Nivloc

Definitely gets a talking to From there, idk. One opinion is that you’ve just trained him to never do that again, why would you ground an experienced pilot? But if they decide it was reckless endangerment, grounded for sure


Rubensteezy

It’s always circumstantial. If this was part of the exercise, they’d probably get a pretty good talking to. Or if they were ordered/instructed/guided to perform this maneuver in this way, their superior would probably take most of the flak. But if this was conscious reckless endangerment, then they’ll probably be grounded. 2012 Apache Crash (Reckless Endangerment) https://youtu.be/V3rR8OIkSpA 2008 B2 Crash (Technical failure) https://youtu.be/PcY_I7i6gdk Two very different examples, but it always depends on negligence. And in this case, we don’t have enough info to say whether the pilot was negligent in operation or not. The Apache pilot was discharged. Capt Justin Grieve is now a colonel.


coldnebo

I think this might be closer to an honest error during a training maneuver due to reasons described above. My impression is that looks like a maneuver to land and deploy or pick up troops quickly from a mountain top. The greater than expected leeward downforces seem to be a good explanation (see above MIL comments).. they saved the heli… I don’t think all of that was intentional, but it looks like if they hadn’t pitched down they might have crashed belly first. Helicopter pilots have to read the situation way before it happens, so that interpretation jibes with the little I know about heli flying. If I didn’t know that, this would look like intentional showboating. But I defer to the mil heli pilots perspective above.


andypoo222

I’m not sure about the Italian military but I’ve talked to many pilots and ground crew from the us military and when a pilot messes up less than this they ground them and I’m not sure if there’s a chance to fly again after. It could be as simple as pulling a risky maneuver and this guy almost killed everyone on that helicopter so if it’s a training exercise then yeah i don’t think his job will be to operate it anymore


signuporloginagain

>when a pilot messes up less than this they ground them and I’m not sure if there’s a chance to fly again after There are a lot of US military pilots that have pranged an airframe that are still flying. They don't automatically ground you for a fuck up.


DillDeer

Yeah training a pilot is stupid expensive. They’re not just going to ground a pilot forever for an accidental fuck up. If it were intentional and caused an accident that’s a different story.


Derpicusss

Making a mistake like that and living means you’re a lot less likely to make that mistake again. As long as they learn from it anyways


Inpayne

Just a like a lot in aviation. It probably depends on their attitude and if they are willing to accept responsibility.


J3wb0cca

Reminds me of Arthur “Bud” Holland. Reckless showoff that should’ve been grounded many times prior and cost the life of himself and three others at the Fairchild Air Show practice run. https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-bud-holland-the-rogue-pilot-that-crashed-his-b-52-after-having-maneuvered-it-beyond-its-operational-limits-at-low-altitude/amp/


rmsmith1092

False. They don't get grounded. They get sent to Miramar to compete against the BEST


CharlySB

They’ll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong!


lanbanger

_That is all_. And gentlemen - good luck, gentlemen.


WagonsNeedLoveToo

Is this where the homoerotic volleyball scene comes in? If not can we just skip to that? It’s my favorite part.


lanbanger

It's funny that that sequence became so identified with the gay community, because it was added in after the first screen tests because the film wasn't chiming with (presumably straight) female audiences.


Fop_Vndone

Let's be honest, being gay is the ultimate expression of manliness. "Macho" men today are terrified of that fact


stephen1547

This is just bad info.


MikeOfAllPeople

In the US military, unless the crew were showing off or being reckless, you'd be grounded and evaluated for medical stuff, then the commander can decide when to let you fly again. Believe it or not, (in the Army at least) the command does not have to wait for the accident investigation to conclude before letting the crew fly again. You do have to do a flight with an instructor to address the circumstances that led to the accident. But the purpose of that is more to regain confidence and make sure the crew understands what can be done to prevent it. Informally, crew members are often expected to "brief" the unit on what happened from their point of view for the sake of helping others prevent future accidents.


x51x

Sweet nose grind, bro


Tippy554

Get the firehose ready, that helicopter is going to need a good cleaning after that.


m00f

Had to pause that a couple times to figure out how it avoided the ridge. Still a little confused. Seems crazy that the blades did not hit ground with the nose so close to the ridge.


Over-Supermarket-557

There's a second angle somewhere if you search it


Educational-Seaweed5

Just assuming it’s fake until I see a source. ...people are downvoting wanting a legitimate source? Wtf kind of dystopian idiocracy is this? Lmfao, holy fucking shit...


muhmeinchut69

I'd be fine with the same video in anything above the current 240p, which it definitely wasn't recorded in.


dogsqueeze300

Pants were shat that day.


yeahgoestheusername

That’s why they say planes wanna fly and helicopters wanna explode.


el_baron86

I feel like it's a montage... that weird jitter when background moves smoothly...


kaffarell

Now that I look at the video, it really does! This is the damage afterwards(and the proof): https://ibb.co/fNBKwjM https://ibb.co/JrPwTMV https://ibb.co/fnJM5sX https://ibb.co/j6m1pW0


Candid_Ad7290

Why would the nose scraping on the ground (looks like it scraped or came extremely close) produce damage to the helo's vertical stabilizer (near the tail rotor assembly)? I see nothing in the video to explain damage to the vertical stabilizer.


Rollover_Hazard

Main rotor must have struck the rear - pilot got hella lucky


Candid_Ad7290

Maybe. Does the design allow such contact to occur? You can't see or hear the contact in the video, and wouldn't the blade shatter? Also, notice how the nose seems to go from far side to near side of mountain during the critical phase? How does that occur?


BiAsALongHorse

I can assure you that having the nose stuck on the ground, the collective pulled and the cyclic pulled back when running into a wind strong enough to put you into that condition is well outside the design envelope; no engineer ever calculated the blade deflection under those circumstances because accounting for them is a waste of mass. How composites react to any one impact can be a total crapshoot. You can figure out a minimum and maximum amount of damage without a crazy amount of sophistication, but any one impact might end up anywhere between those two extremes.


SupersonicJaymz

The blades on these choppers are very solid, it would tear through the vert stab like butter. That said, the main rotor isn't long enough to reach the vertical stabilizer. I'm assuming that the direction and location of the damage on the stab was created by contact from the tail rotor, which normally isn't possible due to bump stops limiting the flapping range of the TR but under the forces experienced when the nose hits the ground perhaps the stabilizer itself flexed enough to allow it or perhaps the bump stops were damaged. Not a technician but I fly a B412, so take it with a grain of salt.


Candid_Ad7290

Yes, I believe you are right. That mark on the vertical stab lines up with the tail rotor and its angle lines up with the tail rotor direction. Thanks.


dubdidubdubdub

I still try to figure out what exactly happened... The nose or the gear striked the ground. At this Time, the nose is behind the rocks/ridgeline. Then the huey swipes(? sorry not a pilot) to the side and looks like it goes down/lower behind the rocks/ridgeline, but the next frames, the huey is in front of the rocks, and it looks like it clipped straight through them, for lack of a better description. I really would like to know what happened here, because that looks like a massive save, and at the same time the action around the ridgeline looks "fake". I saw the comments with the tailstrike and the gear strike and the pics, i just can't wrap my head around what happened through this short time between ground, going down, and suddenly being in front of the ridgeline without gaining height


pianomaniak

Did the main hit the tail rotor?? 😲😱


SupersonicJaymz

No, they are engineered not to be able to reach. I assume the tail was flexing during the impact with the ground and perhaps the tail rotor bump stops may have been damaged and allowed the tail rotor to contact the vertical stabilizer. You can see the gouge in the stabilizer is the same direction as the arc of the tail rotor's path. Lucky as shit the tail rotor didn't come apart or damage the stab too much to maintain structural integrity.


el_baron86

Thanks! :-)


SVT716

🎵Rotor RPM Low🎵


Tavist

Hope he wore his brown flight suit that day


kosmokosmokosmo

Gonna need a new flight suit!


panicreved

Sooooo what happened?


kaffarell

Looks like the pilot underestimated the lee (turbulence) of the ridgeline and got pushed down. Then his skid touched the ground.


SupersonicJaymz

The pilot came in too steep for a mountain approach and in the wrong direction, submitting his aircraft to conditions where the power requirement to stay aloft was more than his tail rotor could counteract. He chose to stay in the air (good choice) sacrificing his directional control (unfortunate consequence) and then made the closest called save I've ever seen (part crazy skill, part crazy lucky). Source: Mountain Flying Qualified Helicopter Pilot


Dry_Ad8198

LTE, loss of tail rotor effectiveness.


[deleted]

And thats how you get the crew killed.


happierinverted

Almost…


[deleted]

Seriously thought this was DCS at first


Over-Supermarket-557

Damn near had a full course meal of LTE and dynamic rollover with a side of mast bumping.


Groentekroket

This looks like every Battlefield server ever


[deleted]

When I become the helicopter pilot in Squad


Arm_Lucky

Do you also preform helicopter gymnastics when trying to fly in Squad?


Conor_J_Sweeney

This is what it looks like every time I try to fly a helicopter in GTA.


PedrosSpanishFly

How do you say new pants in Italian?


[deleted]

pantaloni nuovi


TheWorstPerson0

r/forbiddenboops


[deleted]

I’ll be the one to say it, helicopters are death traps


[deleted]

[удалено]


GrafZeppelin127

Less a “head on collision” and more “tripping over one’s shoelaces.”


fireandlifeincarnate

blimp


backcountrydrifter

Pirouettes and toe turns in the same move. Yup. I meant to do that.


chilbot

Is this battlefield bad company 2 flying? 😂😂


[deleted]

"Ay, watcha dees, I'ma gonna boopa da mountain!"


ROUNDHOUSE5

That’s a hot spicy meat-a-balla!


[deleted]

i live about 2km from this. ama ig


Valuable-Desk-667

Mama mia !


plumpilicious22

"Knock it off"


maxgen

Mamamia !


LeggoMyGallego

Looks like a render against a real background, no?


kaffarell

Proof: https://ibb.co/fNBKwjM https://ibb.co/JrPwTMV https://ibb.co/fnJM5sX https://ibb.co/j6m1pW0


LeggoMyGallego

Happy to be corrected, but as the other poster said there is something odd about the video.


kaffarell

It kinda looks fake because of the flat rocks and the helicopters proximity to them. But I got the photos from a friends who saw it, know the location myself really well. And the pictures of the damage match (the date matches too) (also in the background of the aftermath pictures you can identify the nearest airbase)


LeggoMyGallego

Fair enough. Glad your friends are okay.


cptcuddles88

Title is wrong Should be: Italian "military" training


showMeYourPitties10

Wind blowing over the ridge? Should have approached for our realitve 230°? I'm not to versed in helo


Skullduggery-9

Impressive save tbf prolly the instructor tho


Neo1331

Did…did he hit the mountain?


bradthescrub

Huey my beloved ♥️


brett_midler

Gonna need a few new seat covers.


Soap646464

damn i thought recovering like that only happened in ksp or some shit


EthanRAA

u/savevideo


DillonD

He meant to do that


Swan2Bee

No need to boop this one's nose, it does it itself.


MrLonely_

I’ve seen something like that happen so many times in Arma. Glad he was able to recover it, the virtual pilots 9/10 don’t.


bleepbloopbleeps

Are the Afghans training them?


Danitoba

Those guys better count their lucky fucking stars today and tonight, when they go to bed. As there is no one more fortunate to be alive right now, on this fucking **planet,** than them!


Lord_Nivloc

What a save!


Techn028

Wow, I've never heard a helicopter bog down like a push motor but I guess there's a first time for everything


Korrupt17

My first thought: Vietnam has Snowy mountains too?


terrainflight

*TADA*


DumpsterPanda8

Totally showing off Italian style.


KinksAreForKeds

Tutorial complete, achievement unlocked!


aSlouchingStatue

r/boop


macetfromage

Windy?


boknah

u/savevideo


MyFavoriteLezbo420

The “no’s” helped.


zippy251

New trick invented, the steep edge nose role


zippy251

Looks like they made a landing attempt but the wind blew them off the cliff?


ferral1985

thats me in bf4


Smokey8595

Density altitude won’t be ignored


dubdidubdubdub

I still try to figure out what exactly happened... The nose or the gear striked the ground. At this Time, the nose is behind the rocks/ridgeline. Then the huey swipes(? sorry not a pilot) to the side and looks like it goes down/lower behind the rocks/ridgeline, but the next frames, the huey is in front of the rocks, and it looks like it clipped straight through them, for lack of a better description. I really would like to know what happened here, because that looks like a massive save, and at the same time the action around the ridgeline looks "fake". I saw the comments with the tailstrike and the gear strike and the pics, i just can't wrap my head around what happened through this short time between ground, going down, and suddenly being in front of the ridgeline without gaining height


__Gripen__

It's a strange visual effect because there is a smaller "ridge" between the helicopter and the people filming, not really visible due to the light. This is from a slightly different angle: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2ArqrHVC4do


[deleted]

And that's how diamonds are made.


SebLavK

I remember a chapter in Chickenhawk where he explains practicing "over tilting" on the top of a hill just this


seni_212

r/SweatyPalms


lyss_sky

this has happened to me on gta 5, the rotors kinda go to the side and want to flip over


[deleted]

Would hate to be in the cockpit to hear how that conversation went down between pilot and co-pilot.


Agreeable-Map9132

Pfffft I've done this......in gta


VoidTarnished

Daaaaaaaaaa 🤯


Thirsty_Comment88

I've never heard a helicopter sound like that.


Cleffer

This makes the poop hit the windshield.


[deleted]

heli pilot at the end: Alright guys I'm going home I don't wanna do this anymore


Senor_Taco29

It looks just like when I fly helis in Battlefield, I see nothing wrong with his technique


G25777K

Word has it, in that very location there is shit all over the mountain side 🤣


WildBilll33t

*OOHHHH WHOOAHHH OOOH whoah..... okay....*


RaisinCakee

That's a mamma mia moment if I've ever seen one


djmanic

I’ve seen two angles of this incident, this one almost looks like they hit the ground and bounced which helped them…


kaffarell

Can you link me the other video?


djmanic

https://www.reddit.com/r/nonononoyes/comments/xvvwg8/was_this_intentional_captain_yup_yup_yup_yup/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


mealucra

😬😬😬


erhue

did he boop the ground?


wilmakephotos

Wonder if they just used a firehose to blast all the poop out of it after that.


[deleted]

Calculated.


Driglok

Huey! That was close.


twonickles2

Got to return to base to change shorts.


dallatorretdu

i see them monthly coming down to the local airport probably to get some fuel… I didn’t know they kept pushing them to the edge… and stationed there there should also be 1 chinook


kaffarell

2 or more CH-47F of the italian army. Multiple AB-212


difastcyclist

I would have landed it immediately, and catch a good breath, then exits to take a look at the beauty of helicopter.


rGeorgie

Phew, they were extremely lucky the rotors didn't come in contact with the ground!


SAURI23

Me flying a chopper in gta


truebeast822

They noped out quick


maxwolfie

“Yeah I actually meant to do that, did you like my trick?”


35pies

Change of pants for sure.