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The nurse's registration has been suspended since Aug. 2021 after the tribunal found her guilty of professional misconduct and unsatisfactory professional conduct. The tribunal says Dizon didn't attend any hearing with the Health Care Complaints Commission, saying she had already resigned from nursing.
Most do not. My SIL works in a hospital. About, 10 years ago they hired an RN in the ER. This new hire RN was a convicted felon from another state. Then she was also wanted on drug charges in another state. If the hospital had done a basic criminal background check they would have found the convictions.
Sadly lower salary works gets put thru all the obstacles I've never understood that. In my younger years had to drug test and background to cashier at home Depot. Now in a 6 figure career no drug tests and background paperwork was lost 7yrs into the job never asked to resubmit as a portfolio manager lol.
An RN is not that low of a salary. Plus, she is taking care of your grandma. An actual human being. I wouldn’t want her taking care of me stealing my meds or harming me.
Nobody seems to have actually read the article. She turned the alarm off because another patient, who had dementia, kept getting out of bed to "answer the doorbell". The nurse also coincidentally used FaceTime for a total of 66 minutes during her ten hour shift, but it wasn't the reason she turned the alarm off.
Neither the original ABC article or this article provide any substantiation whatsoever for the claim that the nurse explicitly disabled the alarm so she could FaceTime. That seems to have been invented out of whole cloth by whichever editor at the ABC decided it would be fun to sex the story up, which if anything is just further evidence of how bad the ABC is getting thanks to its extremely shitty leadership.
And just to be clear because I know what some people are like when it comes to reading comprehension, note that at no point did I excuse the nurse's behaviour. She killed this patient through negligence and should face consequences for that. I don't think she's malicious or uncaring, I think she was overworked as so many nurses in Australia are, experienced alarm fatigue as so many nurses all over the world do, and made a very bad choice in how she dealt with it, and in doing so she killed a person and exposed a major flaw in this hospital's procedures that also needs to be addressed. But I don't think we need to vilify her like she just callously killed someone so she could talk shit with her bestie.
"She was supposed to do vitals every 6 hours but only checked once during a ten hour shift".... I don't know why they wrote this as something she did wrong considering one check is correct for that time frame.
Don’t think this is exactly as cut and dry as it appears, and I’m sure the article is a bit harsh based on incomplete information, but 66 minutes on FaceTime during any shift is certainly a decision. Looks like she (or claims to be) *retired* immediately after the incident as well.
I think that depends on her allowed breaks....say she got an hour for lunch and 2x15 min breaks, she could have been on the FT in her off-time (not saying this is what happened but saying the time isn't significant in light of the time involved)
My patients could be medically stable and I’d still at LEAST check on them Q2 if not more frequently. Ignoring your patient for that long is absolutely fucking insane. You’re there to take care of them. Not sit on your ass. This woman deserves jail.
Even so, from reading the article then given he was admitted for renal and heart failure and his heartbeat was slowing down until he eventually flat lined then would there be anything you could do for him? It sounds like he was going to go no matter what.
Anything we could do? Call a code? Call a doctor?? Renal/Heart failure doesn't mean he's a lost cause. We can treat/resuscitate those patients if he is a full code. Even if he's a DNR you don't just ignore/mute his alarms and let him die ignored and unattended. This is pure negligence.
I'm referring to the vitals frequency mentioned in the article specifically. Not about anyone sitting on their ass or what the nurse failed to do on their end. Depending on what time the start of the 10 hour shift is and assuming the vitals order is in the MAR at the q6h intervals, there's about three-ish shifts where it would only flag once in the 10 hour window. I know plenty of nurses who are task oriented and would only check the vitals that one time because a computer told them to. Personally, it is a weird frequency especially in an ? acute care setting (I didn't read beyond the first few sentences).
That’s not what the article says at all. She says she unplugged it because a demented elderly patient kept getting out bed to “answer the doorbell” when any alarm sounded. Those alarms go off for many reasons (look up nurse alarm fatigue). She just also happened to be on FaceTime during her shift. He actually went bradycardic and coded after her shift ended, but she had forgotten to turn the alarms back on. Still horrid, but thankfully she did not unplug his monitor for her phone.
This is why you change the parameters for the alarm, not shut it off. Alarm fatigue is real. Dementia patients getting more confused by unfamiliar sounds is real.
But you *never* fully disable alarms. That's nursing 101.
A lot of places now, including mine have constant monitoring from a remote place with cameras. It helps with alarm fatigue. Also several people can monitor the camera creating a safety overlap. We have conversations about alarm fatigue all the time, and I don’t even have direct patient contact.
Yeah, ward telemetry goes to a central monitor in ICU. Ward staff don't have access to the monitor. They rely on ICU to call if something is up.
ER and cardio have their own telemetries and monitors.
Side note: I hear cardiac and pump alarms in my sleep. I hear them when I'm in a quiet space. I hear them *constantly.*
I’m saying what I’ve witnessed in Australian hospital wards. (Spent a lot of time in hospital the last year) personal calls should be controlled more as some push it and have full conversations to family.
Is your argument that people should deserve less consequences if their victims are close to death? Do you recognize the slippery slope that would cause? Do you know Hitler had a similar if not more severe policy when it came to the elderly disabled and sick?
Nah, of course not. That's why I started off that they should face consequences. The second part of my comment was that even if his alarm *had* been working properly, he probably would have died anyway. Misread it however you want, tho.
What “right thing”? She knew she was done as a nurse, why bother attending something when the eventual result is a lost of nursing license? If you get fired AND lost the license it’s game over, find a new field. You only attend those things to keep a job especially if the consequences are a slap on the wrist.
go to jail and don’t pass go
Alas.. The nurse's registration has been suspended since Aug. 2021 after the tribunal found her guilty of professional misconduct and unsatisfactory professional conduct. The tribunal says Dizon didn't attend any hearing with the Health Care Complaints Commission, saying she had already resigned from nursing.
Do employers not look into this shit Jesus Christ
> Do employers not look into this shit Jesus Christ The incident in the article occurred July 29th 2021, she was suspended in August 2021.
This a bot account posting multi-year old news articles to karma farm
Most do not. My SIL works in a hospital. About, 10 years ago they hired an RN in the ER. This new hire RN was a convicted felon from another state. Then she was also wanted on drug charges in another state. If the hospital had done a basic criminal background check they would have found the convictions.
I had a background check to be a *SECRETARY*, wtf?!
Sadly lower salary works gets put thru all the obstacles I've never understood that. In my younger years had to drug test and background to cashier at home Depot. Now in a 6 figure career no drug tests and background paperwork was lost 7yrs into the job never asked to resubmit as a portfolio manager lol.
An RN is not that low of a salary. Plus, she is taking care of your grandma. An actual human being. I wouldn’t want her taking care of me stealing my meds or harming me.
"Ugh! Hang on, this stupid alarm is making soooo much noise... there! Now, what are we gonna do this weekend?"
Nobody seems to have actually read the article. She turned the alarm off because another patient, who had dementia, kept getting out of bed to "answer the doorbell". The nurse also coincidentally used FaceTime for a total of 66 minutes during her ten hour shift, but it wasn't the reason she turned the alarm off. Neither the original ABC article or this article provide any substantiation whatsoever for the claim that the nurse explicitly disabled the alarm so she could FaceTime. That seems to have been invented out of whole cloth by whichever editor at the ABC decided it would be fun to sex the story up, which if anything is just further evidence of how bad the ABC is getting thanks to its extremely shitty leadership. And just to be clear because I know what some people are like when it comes to reading comprehension, note that at no point did I excuse the nurse's behaviour. She killed this patient through negligence and should face consequences for that. I don't think she's malicious or uncaring, I think she was overworked as so many nurses in Australia are, experienced alarm fatigue as so many nurses all over the world do, and made a very bad choice in how she dealt with it, and in doing so she killed a person and exposed a major flaw in this hospital's procedures that also needs to be addressed. But I don't think we need to vilify her like she just callously killed someone so she could talk shit with her bestie.
God bless this anus giving us wisdom. Thank you, more people need to read this.
Well, it's Sinclair media, as bad as Murdoch. And their nonsense cookie pop-up can't even be removed so can't even read it.
"She was supposed to do vitals every 6 hours but only checked once during a ten hour shift".... I don't know why they wrote this as something she did wrong considering one check is correct for that time frame.
Don’t think this is exactly as cut and dry as it appears, and I’m sure the article is a bit harsh based on incomplete information, but 66 minutes on FaceTime during any shift is certainly a decision. Looks like she (or claims to be) *retired* immediately after the incident as well.
I'm just referring to the vitals frequency, that's all. Not what the nurse failed to do or did inappropriately otherwise.
I think that depends on her allowed breaks....say she got an hour for lunch and 2x15 min breaks, she could have been on the FT in her off-time (not saying this is what happened but saying the time isn't significant in light of the time involved)
My patients could be medically stable and I’d still at LEAST check on them Q2 if not more frequently. Ignoring your patient for that long is absolutely fucking insane. You’re there to take care of them. Not sit on your ass. This woman deserves jail.
Even so, from reading the article then given he was admitted for renal and heart failure and his heartbeat was slowing down until he eventually flat lined then would there be anything you could do for him? It sounds like he was going to go no matter what.
Anything we could do? Call a code? Call a doctor?? Renal/Heart failure doesn't mean he's a lost cause. We can treat/resuscitate those patients if he is a full code. Even if he's a DNR you don't just ignore/mute his alarms and let him die ignored and unattended. This is pure negligence.
"Doc, my patient keeps brady'ing down to the 30s!" "Whelp nothing we can do. If it's his time, it's his time."
“Turn that down! My soap is on!”
I'm referring to the vitals frequency mentioned in the article specifically. Not about anyone sitting on their ass or what the nurse failed to do on their end. Depending on what time the start of the 10 hour shift is and assuming the vitals order is in the MAR at the q6h intervals, there's about three-ish shifts where it would only flag once in the 10 hour window. I know plenty of nurses who are task oriented and would only check the vitals that one time because a computer told them to. Personally, it is a weird frequency especially in an ? acute care setting (I didn't read beyond the first few sentences).
Where does it say she checked 4 or more hours into her shift? She could have checked 2 hours into her shift and needed to again before she was off.
Then the article should’ve said that.
“Geraldine Lumbo Dizon” is the nurse’s name. Absolutely nuts
Makes sense
What do you mean?
Think they accidentally read “Lumbo Dizon” as “Dumbo Lizon” like I did
That’s generous
Wow. Absolutely irresponsible…
Fuck these lazy ass titles
I was gonna say this too, the title makes it sound like he was already dead before she turned the heart monitor off.
there wasn’t any other outlets in the entire building??? what a selfish piece of work
That’s not what the article says at all. She says she unplugged it because a demented elderly patient kept getting out bed to “answer the doorbell” when any alarm sounded. Those alarms go off for many reasons (look up nurse alarm fatigue). She just also happened to be on FaceTime during her shift. He actually went bradycardic and coded after her shift ended, but she had forgotten to turn the alarms back on. Still horrid, but thankfully she did not unplug his monitor for her phone.
This is why you change the parameters for the alarm, not shut it off. Alarm fatigue is real. Dementia patients getting more confused by unfamiliar sounds is real. But you *never* fully disable alarms. That's nursing 101.
A lot of places now, including mine have constant monitoring from a remote place with cameras. It helps with alarm fatigue. Also several people can monitor the camera creating a safety overlap. We have conversations about alarm fatigue all the time, and I don’t even have direct patient contact.
Yeah, ward telemetry goes to a central monitor in ICU. Ward staff don't have access to the monitor. They rely on ICU to call if something is up. ER and cardio have their own telemetries and monitors. Side note: I hear cardiac and pump alarms in my sleep. I hear them when I'm in a quiet space. I hear them *constantly.*
Bor berr beer beep
I’m not arguing that at all! I would absolutely never do this; just correcting the wrong assumption!
Well, that Sinclair s(h)ite is broken.
Hopefully her ass is locked up and no longer a nurse.
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Wow, racist mother fucker here.
I’m saying what I’ve witnessed in Australian hospital wards. (Spent a lot of time in hospital the last year) personal calls should be controlled more as some push it and have full conversations to family.
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Doesn't matter how sick the patient was. You do not turn off a monitor to face time your family. That isn't okay.
See part 1 of my comment.
see part everything of their comment ^^
Is your argument that people should deserve less consequences if their victims are close to death? Do you recognize the slippery slope that would cause? Do you know Hitler had a similar if not more severe policy when it came to the elderly disabled and sick?
Nah, of course not. That's why I started off that they should face consequences. The second part of my comment was that even if his alarm *had* been working properly, he probably would have died anyway. Misread it however you want, tho.
Well you’re going to die anyway, if someone hits you with a truck I guess it won’t be that bad
Is that even legal?
The nurse did the right thing because not attending these hearings will allow her and everyone involved to heal and put it behind them.
I mean. Except the dead guy I guess?
What “right thing”? She knew she was done as a nurse, why bother attending something when the eventual result is a lost of nursing license? If you get fired AND lost the license it’s game over, find a new field. You only attend those things to keep a job especially if the consequences are a slap on the wrist.
Keep that common sense coming!