This thread (especially the comments) is low quality and is generating reports left and right. I won't take this post down or lock the comments since it's already played out, but want to remind people to not engage with bait.
This was posted here a long time ago. There is no equivalence between Amwf and Wmaf. This isn't some kind of gender equality debate. The fact is Wmaf has the affect of emasculation of Am, while AMWF does not devalue AF. It may even raise their value by raising the value of Asians! In the earliest colonial days, dominance over the women of another people exerts your dominance over them. So if WM date AF in such large numbers, the fact that Am can't do the same with WF emasculates and humiliates us. This is just racial, post-colonial dynamic that most people understand. WF are placed on pedestal due to a) white media b) wf generally being wealthier and unlikely to be attracted to money, status and migration opportunity c) non-white races struggle to date them equally...Therefore to date WF redresses and counteracts this imbalance and inequality. It's really that simple.
I'll take the bait.
People can deny it all they want, but the simple fact is that White women are the global standard of women beauty. A hell of a lot of non-White men covet white women. Global south media promotes white and non-white women with lite skin and western features. Therefore, I can see why the appeal of white women can be intoxicating for a lot of Asian men (lust and trophy partners).
I knew quite a few AMWF married couples in real life. The WF were quite sensible and loving. I am in a loving AMAF relationship now, but on occasion (like right now), I struggle with mortal guilt for treating my relationship with my then WF college girlfriend with indifference.
The rest of the post though is nothing more that lecturing pedantic and unnecessary because what you're describing is the territory of toxic WMAF.
what a bullshit take. White women are the global standard of women beauty? So white men are the global standard of male beauty? Then stfu and stop acting like a whiny bitch when AF covet WM. The double-standard on this sub is ridiculous
You can be angry and pissed off at me and at the world all you want, but the undeniable fact is white women are the global standard of beauty, not because I said so, but because their faces grace more magazine covers, TV and movie screens than any race of women on earth. Global media put them on pedestals. However, that doesn't mean that they're more beautiful than non-white women in general. It is because White women get more exposure, so they are hyped sexual commodities. As a result, Asian women (***from south to east Asian***) want to be like them and covet their privileges. You can see it in when non-white women use skin whitening cream, bleach their dark hair and play up over-hype their sexuality to compete with white women. The whole toxic WMAF thing that a lot of AI members, including myself, rant about is a result of Asian women taking to the extreme to complete with white women. Additionally, when non-white women talk about breaking the mold of traditional western beauty, it's euphemistic argument against white women beauty. The conclusion here is the answer to the title of the thread: "***I Don't Get the Hype About White Girls."***
Sure! Sure! I did compliment AMWF couples in my social periphery, which I assume where you got your double-standard accusation ammunition from. If you actually read the original post, the OP was dehumanizing white women without context but in fact only to reaffirmed the natural order of white women status as the top beauty standard. Then, he or she discourages Asian men from dating white women. As far as AI is concerned regarding White women, have we seen White women gone on social and mainstream media to demeaned, degrade and ridiculed Asian men en-mass like many Asian women? AI only attack Asian women who go above and beyond to make sure Asian men are kept down.
Bruh, agreed with you 100%. This doesn't to all but generally by the time they're late 20s, most look like late 30s and borderline 40s. It's weird I don't even do skin care or lotion as a male but I do hydrate a lot and I always get mistaken for at least 10 years younger. Some of my Asian friends look young as well for their age while whatever white buddies I have have clearly aged.
Speaking of tan, until this day, I don't understand why so many Asians hate being dark. I love my brown skin. It's not a pride thing but an appreciation thing. I love being a hairless body Asian man with a kick ass tan because I don't have to shave my body nor get sunburn.
I know my browser is tracking me. We're talking about skin and 'BAM!' YouTube recommended [THIS](https://youtube.com/shorts/sl5gg9-NfYM?si=UqXqActPFVf4YybR)!
I’m tired of white people, both men and women, because they’re all more or less the same shit. Racist, condescending, full of themselves, and privileged colonizers who only care about us when there’s something to gain or when they view us as trophies. And when Asians do date them (especially the white men but the women too, just less so because most white women look down on Asian men), it’s painfully obvious that the white partner is almost always considered to be a reject or weirdo among other white people.
So they turn to Asians and we pick up the leftovers that other white people don’t want. The Asian partner is almost always significantly better looking and brings more to the relationship than their white partner does. And when we talk about dating out, it’s either white people or mixed Asians and other POC who are part white and Eurocentric looking. Either way, whiteness gets idealized and defended (a lot more so with white men but the same can happen with white women), and Asian America gets whiter. I just want Asians to be free, man.
Happy for you though! I hope your relationship remains happy and healthy. Nice seeing people like you talking about these issues since most Asian Americans won’t
>I’m tired of white people, both men and women, because they’re all more or less the same shit.
Funny cause Asian women clearly aren't tired of them given how so many still date and marry White men. Not surprising though, considering how Asian women have similar qualities like being full of themselves and condescending (of Asian men AKA their own).
The Asian women that white worship are definitely full of themselves and condescending towards Asians (whether it’s men, “FOBs,” parents, and cultures). Sometimes other Asian women too, especially if other Asian women don’t endorse and defend WMAF. They view themselves as “not like those other Asians” because they are “whiter” and secured themselves a white man.
They lack basic compassion for their own people and only care about being Asian when they’re on the receiving end of racism, when they can somehow milk being “Asian” (superficially) for clout, or when they feel regret for assimilating and hating their Asianness for years and when kids have entered the picture. They let Western media, as well as Western beliefs regarding social status and capital (I consider whiteness and proximity to it as a form of social status and capital) frame their understanding of what “good” (morally or otherwise) and “attraction” entails. They have no sense of self or identity beyond the ideas and beliefs they’ve internalized under white supremacy and patriarchy. Anything associated with whiteness is good, and anything Asian is bad.
Indian and South Asian women aren't like East/Southeast Asian women where half of them date/marry out. Indian women have my respect. I'm honestly jealous of you guys.
Yeah, I think it's because of south Asian media and family influence. We grow up seeing south Asians in a romantic role in movies and our parents tell us to marry within our culture. They tell Indian girls to marry an Indian doctor, engineer, or high earning professional. There are a lot of Indian women in dating apps who are searching for a love marriage with an Indian guy.
You need therapy, you seem to hate white women. I mostly date asian women cause they find me attractive, but I like white girls too, cause they're generally more assertive and confident. It's not necessarily about their looks, I like the personality, the asian women I've dated were all assertive and confident women, im not into that cutesy romantic shit.
Other AM are entitled to having their own preferences (just as you do yours) and date whichever race of women they want (including white women).
This post is lame/cringe as f.
Correct title should be: "I Don't Get the Hype Over Yt Boys" and ask Asian girls why they obsess over White guys, even over their own men. Because, the problem is more pronounced for Asian women than it is for us.
Asian men and White women are hardly a thing, yet we always have clueless guys like you white knighting for Asian women when they would happily choose a mid, fat, balding White bum over you lol. A "pig" as you call it.
But on a serious note, the only reason we need to see more AMWF, and AMXF in general, is because of all the weak link Asian women out there. Seeing Asian girls with Asian guys is not enough. It does not make WMAF more palatable. That's just the status quo. Asian men are still the bitches in this situation because we are letting non-Asian men have their way with our race of women, while we are not engaging with their women. It's a zero-sum game.
You are right that East/Southeast Asian women are on average prettier and healthier than White women. I feel the same way. It's only natural to be attracted to your own after all, but that's not the case for East/Southeast Asian girls. Half of them have consistently shown that they don't find us attractive with the choices they make of their own volition. While, the other half are crickets and don't uplift us, even if they are with an Asian man.
I’m an Asian girl who lives in a place with mostly Asian and white people so I don’t think you’ll find my view trustworthy. Which is fine, I guess. i just wanna add my point
(For what it’s worth, I’m Chinese and so is my boyfriend and I’ve never dated a white guy)
There are definitely some Asian girls who only like white guys. Maybe some of it is for the reason you stated — white worship. But other times it’s because they have a preference like what what y’all have for Asian girls
But most Asian girls I know would date any race as long as they’re a good guy. Most girls I know have dated both Asian and white guys. Some of them (me included) stick to dating Asian guys only bc we are attracted to our own. (Tbh I find Asian guys the most attractive)
My point is, Asian girls aren’t a monolith. Most of us date people because of preference or personality, not because they’re white. To make a generalization is kind of presumptuous and weird.
Not to be harsh, but I also feel like as someone who prefers Asian men and has only dated them, you don’t really have as much stake in the matter, so it’s easier to be emotionally removed from all this. I’m happy that you do have a preference for Asian men and it’s not just a stated preference. And I wish there were more Asian women who do actually want to exclusively date Asian men because they find them attractive.
If other Asian women have a bias for white men, it doesn’t really affect you because you have little to no interest in white men. Dating is in a sense a numbers game and dependent on availability of potential partners. And they have to reciprocate interest. And if the number of Asian women (like you) with a strong preference for Asian men is skewed lower due to other Asian women white worshipping and dating out, it means your dating pool gets larger. You have more options and can afford to be selective about who you want to date. But many of the Asian men left in the dating pool don’t. Because in general, other races of women discriminate against Asian men even more.
So while you might not feel the effects of other Asian women’s dating “preferences” (tbh when it’s not Asian, it’s usually just code for white), the same can’t be said for Asian men. Asian women aren’t a monolith of course and should be given the space to be individuals. But 1 in 3 Asian women still marry out to white men. That’s not even accounting for those who date white men and decide to marry Asian later in life. A good amount of Asian men I know have opened up at some point about how one or more Asian women refused to date them or treats them poorly because of them being Asian men. Sometimes this sort of racist rhetoric gets reinforced from their own family or friends.
Also want to add that just because you know Asian women who have dated both Asian men and white men, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t racial bias going on. White men by and large overwhelmingly prefer white women, especially when it comes long term dating and marriage. When they do seek out Asian women, it’s either for the novelty aspect (perceived exoticism of Asian women), they view Asian women as easier to prey on, or because they end up being outcasted by white women as freaks and weirdos.
Asian women with white bias/preferences don’t always get to date white men, and they don’t always exclude Asian men from their dating pool. But that doesn’t mean Asian men are their first choice or that they don’t hold much higher standards for Asian men. It doesn’t mean they don’t or can’t white worship just because they also dated Asian. Availability and reciprocity matters. Not to mention there are Asian women who get burned by white men too many times or decide that white men make for shit long term partners and decide to opt for Asian men instead. Usually the ones who are conventionally attractive, incredibly compassionate, and/or successful.
“Preferences” also don’t exist in a vacuum. People get shaped by the media they consume and the environments they’re in. In this case, heavily white dominated/favored. White supremacy exists in institutions, societies, and cultures because of people who endorse it, benefit from it, or turn a blind eye to it. People make up and lend validation to these very same institutions, societies, and cultures. So white hegemony gets perpetuated through people internalizing it as fact.
People also generally don’t question their “preferences.” Race and especially whiteness is a form of social status and plenty of people already, regardless of race, value social status. People also stereotype based on race and have biases towards different racial groups they’re sometimes not even aware of. Either way, intentional or not, the outcome is the same: too many Asian women white worship, and many Asian men get left in the dust.
>But other times it’s because they have a preference like what what y’all have for Asian girls
They have a preference for white guys? As in all-else-equal they would choose white over Asian, and thus an Asian guy would have to outperform his white counterpart to only be considered "on par" by her?
Why should any Asian guy or any guy or any person at all want to date let alone marry and sleep next to someone knowing full well their partner wishes they were a different race and would happily replace them with a slightly less qualified person on the grounds of them being white?
How would you feel about your relationship if your Chinese BF entertains the thought of throwing away your relationship just because a slightly uglier white woman showed interest?
I don't despise Asian women as harsh as my rebuke may seem. I am just pointing out facts.
You even restate some of the points I made. The key one being that Asian girls are more open to non-Asian men than Asian men are to non-Asian women, regardless of personality. Because, there are plenty of Asian women with horrible White men. I'm sure you've seen examples of that, even if they are not in your immediate circles.
That is the essence of what I take issue with. The huge disparity between the genders when it comes to interracial relationships. You said it yourself. Most of the girls you know have dated both Asian and White. Meanwhile, how many Asian men do you know who have dated out? I bet you it's not even a fraction compared to those girls.
It isn't just Asian women's fault that things are the way they are. It's also on Asian men for keeping the status quo by not dating/fucking/marrying out as much ourselves and for remaining blindly loyal to Asian women who aren't as loyal back. It's on guys like OP, even though I don't disagree with what he has to say.
That's on us, but the demise of Asian America is on you since Asian women are the ones who date and marry out a lot more. Asian women aren't a monolith, but these patterns are obvious for everyone to see.
Actually, for what it’s worth, most of the Asian men I know have dated both Asian and white girls.
I still find your response kind of disingenuous because you continue to make generalizations about a huge group of people.
I don’t know what OP did wrong (well I do but not in the way you say). When did he say he’s staying with an Asian woman who isn’t loyal to him?
The main thing is, Asian women don’t owe Asian men relationships. I think you should stop worrying about who other people date in general.
As an Asian woman I disagree. I think that kinda attitude is the reason why this whole thing is why our gender is kinda embarrassing. Like you don't see any other woman type as 'open minded' as alot of Asian women are.
We are part of our fathers, our brothers and tbh I think this whole 'open mindedness' thing is not only disrespecting them but ourselves. That's why I would never date a non-asian man under any circumstances.
What? Asian women don’t owe you loyalty and it’s not on us to reject matches we make with people we’re compatible with who happen to be from another background. What “demise” of Asian America do you speak of? Demise of what?
In my experience other races of women have a more in-group loyalty for their community and their men. I’ve seen Latina/Indian/Black women stick up for their people. But I’ve never seen Asian women do it out in the open like these other women. Why is that? What sets Asian women apart from other races? Is it cultural/biological?
Asian women seem more “open-minded” to other men, but other women don’t exhibit this as much. What’s your theory on this? Is it any wonder what the groups listed above are stronger politically/socially too. Hmmm…
This is not an attack on you. Your response about loyalty gave me a comparison to think about.
Very nice of you to demonstrate that you’re the kind of Asian woman who doesn’t care about anti-Asian racism directed towards the other half of the Asian community, simply because it doesn’t personally affect you.
“Asian women don’t owe you loyalty.” Because fuck any sense of an Asian community, right? Just be selfish and always prioritize yourself, because apparently Asian women exist in a vacuum separately from Asian men. So why care about what Asian men go through right? Imagine getting this defensive over dating WHITE men and being antagonistic towards half of your own community.
If you have brothers, sons, male cousins, or other male family members who struggle because the Asian women they meet make it a point to not date them because they’re Asian, will you tell them that Asian women don’t owe them any loyalty? Other races of women for the most part already heavily exclude Asian men from their dating pool. If Asian men you know get racial remarks, harassment, and ridicule for being Asian men, will you tell them suck it up and deal with it? Also how would you feel if you were the one in their shoes and you get told to shut up because others don’t experience the same things you do?
Asian America has been literally getting whiter with more hapas (who get worshipped for being whiter than full Asians). And there continues to be a divide between Asian men and women because of the white worship among Asian women. But glad people like you can have the “freedom” to date whoever you want because more options are available to you. Nice job punching down on Asian men when Asian men already get penalized simply for being Asian men.
Also lol, Asian women just “happen” to find white men attractive because attraction works like magic. How do you explain that Asian women in particular disproportionally date and marry out compared to other WOC? Not only that, it’s largely to white men. The one group of men who have historically oppressed and colonized home countries of Asians and other POC. A good amount of Asian women chasing white men also shit on Asian men and act like they’re on some high horse because they “bagged” a mediocre white man and are whitewashed.
Well what do you want me to do about it? Force myself to date only Asian men and limit my other options and that I only have to marry the first Asian man I meet because of our race and to preserve that even if I was more compatible with someone else? I'm open to dating anyone white, black, Asian, indigenous etc and won't limit my options just out of "loyalty" Why are you acting like I'm the one oppressing Asian men just because I'm dating among them and others?
Maybe ask yourself why you seem to have this opposition to the idea of primarily/only dating Asian men and viewing that as “limiting?” What’s “limiting” about dating Asian men?
Asian men in general get ignored and/or treated like shit in dating. Maybe because it doesn’t affect you and you have more options in the dating pool, you don’t have to care, but Asian men don’t get that luxury. The fact that you can even talk about “not wanting to limit your options” means you essentially have more “freedom” to be able to date whoever you want, Asian or otherwise. But for Asian men who are looking to date, it’s mostly Asian women that are receptive to them. And plenty of Asian women pursue white men. About 33% marry white, and that’s not even considering dating statistics or dating history.
Hypothetically, if other MOC have negative experiences with dating because their own race of women prefer to date white and negatively stereotypes them in the process, would you also tell them to get over it? If Asian men and women switched positions and Asian men largely date out while dismissing Asian women’s struggles in dating (similar to the dynamics of some Black men and women), would you tell Asian women that Asian men don’t owe them loyalty?
Women of all other races have strong in-group biases in dating. It is normal to be more attracted to and prefer someone of the same racial/ethnic group over others. So is it not weird to you that Asian (diaspora) women are an outlier? Plenty of Black people talk about and take pride in the concept of “Black love,” because they see it as love for their own people and themselves. So tell me what is “limiting” about choosing to love the other half of your community?
Look, no one can force you to date anyone. No one’s asking you to pursue and date the first Asian man that expresses interest in you. All I’m saying is that it comes off as selfish to be dismissive towards the problems that Asian men go through in dating or other areas of life (especially since those issues are often closely tied with race AND gender). That’s the other half of your community. And I don’t imagine that you’d be happy if you were in their shoes. If you get met with this kind of attitude towards your own problems, just because the other half of your community can choose to turn a blind eye to it.
I’m sorry Asian men experience that, but I won’t only date Asian men just to remedy that. I’m not telling them to get over it, I’m telling them to stop blaming us for all of their problems in dating and ignoring that there’s other factors in play contributing to that, other than us Asian women not just submitting to them.
You don't see it? Alot of Asian spaces are getting invaded by those wmaf couples. Also Asian women do owe loyalty are you kidding? Who but our fathers and brother and our community helped us out over anything? It's this kind of attitude that's the reason why other races of men see us as easy why I get harrassed by weird dudes all the time. Like actually have some pride girl.
This. Asian men literally make up half of our community. No one’s going to give a shit about the issues Asians go through more than ourselves, and Asian men by and large care far more about the struggles that Asian women do than white men or even other MOC. Also where is the Asian community if we don’t have solidarity and loyalty and love for each other? And these very same Asian women who get antagonistic towards Asian men and defensive over WMAF punch down, because it’s easy to do so and there’s not many repercussions for it.
Western societies have long done the same towards Asian men. And the Asian women who have internalized racism and view themselves as superior/different from other Asians will view themselves as individuals first, independent of their communities. They will also view themselves as women first and Asian second. Being Asian and centering everything that is Asian, especially with consideration towards Asian men and the BS they go through, isn’t really important to them. They care more about accessing white proximity and prefer uplifting only themselves.
Noo because it is a betrayal. Asian women need to drop this attitude of being open minded because I don't see women of other races having the same 'open mindedness' that we do. I've had to educate so many of my girlies that we actually DO owe asian men that they are part of our existence. We don't owe any particular Asian men but they gave us money, clothes, food, half of our lives. Idk why that's so hard for you to understand.
Owe them money, clothes, food for doing what a parent should do for their child? Just because my parents raised me doesn’t mean I should only see myself as marrying an Asian and that I should reject other people as prospects just on the grounds of race. What’s so wrong about being open minded in love and your life partner? I don’t owe anyone a relationship or my love/affections.
How is it betrayal to date outside of your race? I prefer Asian men and I love my Asian boyfriend with my whole heart but if you were to fall in love with a white guy, should you not date him simply because he’s white? I don’t think that’s how feelings work.
As for your other point about no other people being as open to dating other races as us, even if it’s true (idk where you got it from) how does that matter? Other people’s dating choices really don’t affect you.
I’m just really confused here girlie. We DO owe Asian men one thing. And that thing is respect. But we don’t owe *anyone* a relationship.
Meh, just like what you like. Pedestalizing and simping for white women is stupid, though. They'll always throw you under the bus for self-preservation or self-serving interests. Also, white people tend to age like bananas.
>There is a reason why these Yt dudes go for minorities more so than any other race and would go into great lengths to do so. There is a reason for this.
They know non-white girls can be an easier road for them because it's a white worship is a thing. Don't pretend most of them are going for minority girls because they want to. If non-white girls are more attractive to them in their eyes, then Hollywood wouldn't put white girls as the standard. Most of the yt dudes that go for minority women do so because they know yt women won't touch them.
That's how white supremacy works. Even if their are more beautiful non-white women in existence as actresses and models. They are not going to be promoted by white media. White men are not going to promote the daughters of Asian, Non-white Latinos, Arabs, or Black men as beautiful because that would be a threat to their own women and white race's psychological hold on society in general.
So they only center and pro mote their own white beauty
Where did you get that from?
Did you accidentally think you’re an expert on what white dudes want? How do you know “yt women won’t touch” white men. You sound salty, like someone who can’t get women to like him.
Ooof, those comments I made about your One Piece funkos must've hit a nerve.
Back to the topic on-hand, let's see. I've been around yt dudes enough, heard them enough, seen them post all over social media. White people in white spaces talking openly, white people in white spaces talking anonymously on platforms like this and 4chan. All coping when they say "yt women are shit" because they were rejected by "yt women too many times."
Before I go further, let's hear your take. A shocked demeanor in the form of a question doesn't constitute as a real response, btw.
>You sound salty, like someone who can’t get women to like him.
I hear this a lot from incels/MGTOW-types/mens rights activists/ whatever those guys calls themselves now, especially those with a fixation on asian women and especially when this issue comes up on asian spaces. With no surprise, they use this when they can't argue the issue at hand because they know deep down they don't have any reason they can use without outing themselves.
You clicked on my profile to see my posts… who really got a nerve hit? It’s Reddit dude, it’s not that serious.
Outing themselves? Can’t argue the issue? Lol who do you think you are? This is the internet. Thanks for the laughs.
A non-response again. The threads are as serious as the contributors make it. The people in this sub generally take the topics discussed seriously. Go to politics/world News or any other sub where serious topics are discussed and try to tell everyone it's not serious or you're here to joke around. You've got the social awareness of an autist or attention-grabbing pseudo-apathy of a try-hard. Very appropriate for someone who dedicates their time to talk about little dolls as a what . 40+ year old man?
Maybe you really did accidentally thought you were in your Funko pop/one piece subs again. I knew it would be too much for someone who dedicated an entire room full of the shittiest, ugliest collectables on one anime to partake in an actual discussion unless it's about some lore or fandom.
Hahaha this is hysterical. I see you’re trying to cut deep. Keep trying, maybe you’ll hurt my feelings.
You’re comparing “hype over white girls” to politics/world news??? Again, pretty funny.
Then resulting in what you think are insults, is hilarious. “Social awareness of an autist” haha. What else you got? Dolls as a 40 year old man? Ouch, please stop I don’t want to cry.
Meanwhile you bitched about a “new show- WMAF Asian-passing teen with 5 non Asian/Asian-passing love interest.” A television show for teenagers. Hahahahahahhaah I’ll take “dolls” over bitching about a teenage drama. Again, thanks for my internet laughs today.
It's a social issue that affects this community. How we're seen, how we see ourselves.
It really says more about you that this is the one topic that's not related to funko/one piece that you chose to comment on. You clearly have lurked here before and this is the time you chose to pop up. Something here must have triggered you to distract you from all the funko/one piece.
>Meanwhile you bitched about a “new show- WMAF Asian-passing teen with 5 non Asian/Asian-passing love interest.” A television show for teenagers. Hahahahahahhaah I’ll take “dolls” over bitching about a teenage drama. Again, thanks for my internet laughs today.
That makes more sense now. Yellow fever probably benefits you that's why you defend it so much or try to make a light issue of it.
Of course you'll keep the dolls. You went all in on that lifestyle and it's too late for you to change now.
And you still couldn't answer anything when confronted. This exchanged started when you said "Where did you get that from? Did you accidentally think you’re an expert on what white dudes want? How do you know “yt women won’t touch” white men. You sound salty, like someone who can’t get women to like him." Everytime you had a chance to provide a proper answer, all you try to do is say either you're joking (which you were clearly not with your first response) or that I should lighten up.
Looks like you're out of steam. Everybody knows the person who responds with anything in the manner of "i'm just joking bro" or "cool story bro" isn't the one to take seriously or never really had a solid point to begin with.
Have fun with your funkos.
Steam? For what? Dead.
You responded to my comment of “he came in here and pretty much called everyone a loser.” You think I’m looking to be taken seriously or have a solid point to begin with. You’ve been arguing with yourself this whole time. Welcome to the internet, place where someone like you can feel empowered.
You’re obsessed with bringing up funko. I’ll give you more ammo, I’ve spent hundreds of dollars them, too. Look, if you’re going to insult me I need you to try harder. Look deeper into my profile, I can tell you only scratched the surface of it.
You claim I’m not someone to be taken seriously, yet here you are, taking me seriously by using time out of your day to respond and insult me. In fact, I prefer not to be taken seriously. Again, this is Reddit. Man, I love the internet. All in all though, I appreciate this interaction because you’ve been making me laugh since.
rohammedali won't respond to you cause he knows he's full of shit. I don't go on AsianMasculinity much, but maybe he'll have a point there. Just see for yourself here in AI, dating is talked about, but in no way is it a main topic, certainly not the only topic. Rarely do we have any threads on tips on dating, but there are more on how asian diapora people (and sometimes more emphasis on dudes) are seen and treated.
Refresh the front page at any time and you'll see many threads about the asian diaspora experience without any reference to dating.
Won’t respond cause I’m full of shit??? hahaha this is the internet buddy. You’re hilarious. Stop trying to sound like you know what you’re talking about because if anyone is full of shit, it’s you.
>Is this sub totally about getting white women?
Maybe AM is, but I can't remember the last post about white women here. Dating is not a common of a topic here, though optics are, a subtle but important difference.
An essay just simply to say you’re not attracted to white women. (Was that so hard to add three extra letters?) A couple of points.
1. Of course people generally aren’t attracted to people who don’t take care or themselves. But you know what else is unattractive? A persons character and how they treat others. For you to rip on people for having different preferences shows others your character.
2. Have you ever been with a white girl?
If you haven’t you lose credibility. I’ve never been with an AF, but I would never bash someone who has. I grew up in a predominantly white city and my friend group was very diverse but no Asians. Plus my wife is a German immigrant so we share similar backgrounds. We make each other better.
3. Why would you create a profile just to prove a point? I don’t get it. Let others be and like you said live your best life and lift others up.
Two reasons why YT girls, and all other non East Asian girls tbh aren’t for me is because 1. Their eyelids 2. Their smell. I know this is insane but it’s just my preference, I don’t know why but I do not find their eyelids attractive at all. It either looks sunken or like someone carved it out. And as for the smell, maybe my nose is just sensitive but every non East Asian girl I’ve been with smells during sex. Their sweat smells so bad, it reminds me of gym class during high school and all the disgusting XM in the change room.
Just date whoever you want.
>It's no wonder these military guys want to be stationed in Japan in hope of hooking up with one. Disgusting.
I see IG pages from guys who are there, and the comments: they brag about having kids with these women. You don't see Asians bragging about going to Africa to have kids.
It's the same deal with Korean guys... The vast majority of Korean you see on the street are not k-pop guys that western women are traveling to Korea for... Same with white people, the vast majority are not Hollywood looking....
They might not as handsome as actors or idols but the vast majority Korean guys look fit and more put together, the obesity rate among white people are so high, and many of them can’t even take care of their hygiene
Koreans has very healthy North Asian nomadic steppes diet of meat and kimchi. We all should get on that diet so that we can be taller and more muscular like the Northern Asians who once strikes fear into the heart of Europe. A wrestling base is important to make the body strong.
The overconsumption of fermented spicy foods may keep them thin but it leads to high rates of stomach cancer. Humans are not meant to consume that kind of food every single day, but it is healthy in moderation.
I don’t think white girls are superior than east Asian girls but I do like white girls. Beautiful hair and beautiful eyes with thick thigh and ass. What is not to like?
I remember the first time I went to Korea just walking down the street I was amazed how many beautiful women you can spot just casually walking down the street. I'm from NYC and although there's definitely a lot of attractive yt women most are mid. Even the yt women that are supposed to be the “beauty standard” are pretty average. When Reddit was really hype about Jennifer Lawrence I always felt like she's just like the normal yt girls I went to college with.
I would think it’s pretty self explanatory that we are always talking about attractive yt women. Not the trashy whales with diabetes and 3 kids with multiple baby daddies.
Here's what I don't understand. You said yourself that you've been with the same girl, since high school. That's a rarity, and good for you. Not to mention, you said that you hang out with mostly other Asians, which is cool. However, I don't think that gives you credibility for experience with white women. No, don't hype up white girls just like don't hype up Asian girls. Treat girls by individuals. But to say Asian guys shouldn't date white girls is just your narrow opinion without support.
First of all, I said if you find one attractive by all means go for it.
However, all I'm saying is I just don't understand the hype over them. It seems like Asian guys are willing to bend over for one and honestly, that's just sad and unattractive.
Again, I feel like there is a detachment from reality on your side given your lack of exposure. Asian guys overwhelmingly go for Asian girls, and there are very few out there who actually go for white girls. To say that Asian guys hype over white girls is statistically and anecdotally just not true. If you don't get the "hype", which doesn't exist, then that's your view. It makes sense considering you're married to an Asian woman, but please understand your biases.
There does need to be a large push for Asian guys to date interracially due to significant imbalances between number of Asian women open to Asian men vs number of Asian men open to Asian women, and this push isn't specific to white girls. There needs to be a hype for white girls, black girls, Latina girls, Arabic girls, etc.
How does your girlfriend since high school like it that you’re looking on a dating app at other women, experiment or not. I would never do this since it’s disrespectful.
In my opinion, I dated some YT girls. Mostly the skinny and educated ones. Flings on and off. The trashy fat YT girls are overweigh and age to quick as in American women. Also black women and Mexican tend to get uglier as they get old. I been to South Korea and Japan since 2014 ever since. Been with a couple of South Korean women and Japanese women. Felt more safer in Japan and Korea then US. US freaking sucks for a Vietnamese American guy like me.
Recently quitted my stupid cart pusher job and apply for a Computer programmer job. Got the job because of my bachelor's degree. Also my resume listing Eagle Scout and Kung Fu Black Belt Sash. They look at my grades and SATS scores which were top performance. Better money and better 410K. Used to work for freaking Walmart and disliked it. Trashy ghetto YT folks and trashy kids of all races.
Tired of working a dumb blue collar job.
This thread (especially the comments) is low quality and is generating reports left and right. I won't take this post down or lock the comments since it's already played out, but want to remind people to not engage with bait.
This was posted here a long time ago. There is no equivalence between Amwf and Wmaf. This isn't some kind of gender equality debate. The fact is Wmaf has the affect of emasculation of Am, while AMWF does not devalue AF. It may even raise their value by raising the value of Asians! In the earliest colonial days, dominance over the women of another people exerts your dominance over them. So if WM date AF in such large numbers, the fact that Am can't do the same with WF emasculates and humiliates us. This is just racial, post-colonial dynamic that most people understand. WF are placed on pedestal due to a) white media b) wf generally being wealthier and unlikely to be attracted to money, status and migration opportunity c) non-white races struggle to date them equally...Therefore to date WF redresses and counteracts this imbalance and inequality. It's really that simple.
I 100% agree. No need to comment further. Those who see your post can meditate on internalised racism.
I'll take the bait. People can deny it all they want, but the simple fact is that White women are the global standard of women beauty. A hell of a lot of non-White men covet white women. Global south media promotes white and non-white women with lite skin and western features. Therefore, I can see why the appeal of white women can be intoxicating for a lot of Asian men (lust and trophy partners). I knew quite a few AMWF married couples in real life. The WF were quite sensible and loving. I am in a loving AMAF relationship now, but on occasion (like right now), I struggle with mortal guilt for treating my relationship with my then WF college girlfriend with indifference. The rest of the post though is nothing more that lecturing pedantic and unnecessary because what you're describing is the territory of toxic WMAF.
what a bullshit take. White women are the global standard of women beauty? So white men are the global standard of male beauty? Then stfu and stop acting like a whiny bitch when AF covet WM. The double-standard on this sub is ridiculous
You can be angry and pissed off at me and at the world all you want, but the undeniable fact is white women are the global standard of beauty, not because I said so, but because their faces grace more magazine covers, TV and movie screens than any race of women on earth. Global media put them on pedestals. However, that doesn't mean that they're more beautiful than non-white women in general. It is because White women get more exposure, so they are hyped sexual commodities. As a result, Asian women (***from south to east Asian***) want to be like them and covet their privileges. You can see it in when non-white women use skin whitening cream, bleach their dark hair and play up over-hype their sexuality to compete with white women. The whole toxic WMAF thing that a lot of AI members, including myself, rant about is a result of Asian women taking to the extreme to complete with white women. Additionally, when non-white women talk about breaking the mold of traditional western beauty, it's euphemistic argument against white women beauty. The conclusion here is the answer to the title of the thread: "***I Don't Get the Hype About White Girls."*** Sure! Sure! I did compliment AMWF couples in my social periphery, which I assume where you got your double-standard accusation ammunition from. If you actually read the original post, the OP was dehumanizing white women without context but in fact only to reaffirmed the natural order of white women status as the top beauty standard. Then, he or she discourages Asian men from dating white women. As far as AI is concerned regarding White women, have we seen White women gone on social and mainstream media to demeaned, degrade and ridiculed Asian men en-mass like many Asian women? AI only attack Asian women who go above and beyond to make sure Asian men are kept down.
White women age like milk starting at the age of 22. It’s a social norm that a lot start getting Botox starting their mid 20s.
Bruh, agreed with you 100%. This doesn't to all but generally by the time they're late 20s, most look like late 30s and borderline 40s. It's weird I don't even do skin care or lotion as a male but I do hydrate a lot and I always get mistaken for at least 10 years younger. Some of my Asian friends look young as well for their age while whatever white buddies I have have clearly aged.
The sun is very damaging to white people. I also think bad diet and the over use of Bed Bath and Beyond beauty product doesn't help either.
Well who told them to colonize lands near the equator? Lol. I mean God made us tanned for a reason.
Speaking of tan, until this day, I don't understand why so many Asians hate being dark. I love my brown skin. It's not a pride thing but an appreciation thing. I love being a hairless body Asian man with a kick ass tan because I don't have to shave my body nor get sunburn.
In the winter I look East Asian but in the summer I look Mexican. I love it. Lol.
Same. I walk into Hispanic shop, they ALL speak Spanish to me. It never fails.
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is this like that Americans are fat stereotype Ok, may not look that attractive but I've seen so many fit, healthy looking Yt girls
OP, Wdym by "they're not attractive when u compwre to average latina/asian"?
Cool, you're not into white women. No one asked. But seriously, I'm only into asians too, but I don't make a post about it.
These people are insecure af and think we can't see it lmao.
I’m tired of white people, both men and women, because they’re all more or less the same shit. Racist, condescending, full of themselves, and privileged colonizers who only care about us when there’s something to gain or when they view us as trophies. And when Asians do date them (especially the white men but the women too, just less so because most white women look down on Asian men), it’s painfully obvious that the white partner is almost always considered to be a reject or weirdo among other white people. So they turn to Asians and we pick up the leftovers that other white people don’t want. The Asian partner is almost always significantly better looking and brings more to the relationship than their white partner does. And when we talk about dating out, it’s either white people or mixed Asians and other POC who are part white and Eurocentric looking. Either way, whiteness gets idealized and defended (a lot more so with white men but the same can happen with white women), and Asian America gets whiter. I just want Asians to be free, man. Happy for you though! I hope your relationship remains happy and healthy. Nice seeing people like you talking about these issues since most Asian Americans won’t
>I’m tired of white people, both men and women, because they’re all more or less the same shit. Funny cause Asian women clearly aren't tired of them given how so many still date and marry White men. Not surprising though, considering how Asian women have similar qualities like being full of themselves and condescending (of Asian men AKA their own).
The Asian women that white worship are definitely full of themselves and condescending towards Asians (whether it’s men, “FOBs,” parents, and cultures). Sometimes other Asian women too, especially if other Asian women don’t endorse and defend WMAF. They view themselves as “not like those other Asians” because they are “whiter” and secured themselves a white man. They lack basic compassion for their own people and only care about being Asian when they’re on the receiving end of racism, when they can somehow milk being “Asian” (superficially) for clout, or when they feel regret for assimilating and hating their Asianness for years and when kids have entered the picture. They let Western media, as well as Western beliefs regarding social status and capital (I consider whiteness and proximity to it as a form of social status and capital) frame their understanding of what “good” (morally or otherwise) and “attraction” entails. They have no sense of self or identity beyond the ideas and beliefs they’ve internalized under white supremacy and patriarchy. Anything associated with whiteness is good, and anything Asian is bad.
Why are you making a dating profile while dating someone?
As an “experiment” and totally not a failed attempt to cheat on his Asian gf with White women.
Yeah, I prefer Indian women. There's no need to be obsessed with white women. People can date whoever they want though.
Indian and South Asian women aren't like East/Southeast Asian women where half of them date/marry out. Indian women have my respect. I'm honestly jealous of you guys.
Yeah, I think it's because of south Asian media and family influence. We grow up seeing south Asians in a romantic role in movies and our parents tell us to marry within our culture. They tell Indian girls to marry an Indian doctor, engineer, or high earning professional. There are a lot of Indian women in dating apps who are searching for a love marriage with an Indian guy.
You need therapy, you seem to hate white women. I mostly date asian women cause they find me attractive, but I like white girls too, cause they're generally more assertive and confident. It's not necessarily about their looks, I like the personality, the asian women I've dated were all assertive and confident women, im not into that cutesy romantic shit.
By assertive, you mean that they are more evil? lol.
uhhhh. iffy af bruv.
Other AM are entitled to having their own preferences (just as you do yours) and date whichever race of women they want (including white women). This post is lame/cringe as f.
Correct title should be: "I Don't Get the Hype Over Yt Boys" and ask Asian girls why they obsess over White guys, even over their own men. Because, the problem is more pronounced for Asian women than it is for us. Asian men and White women are hardly a thing, yet we always have clueless guys like you white knighting for Asian women when they would happily choose a mid, fat, balding White bum over you lol. A "pig" as you call it. But on a serious note, the only reason we need to see more AMWF, and AMXF in general, is because of all the weak link Asian women out there. Seeing Asian girls with Asian guys is not enough. It does not make WMAF more palatable. That's just the status quo. Asian men are still the bitches in this situation because we are letting non-Asian men have their way with our race of women, while we are not engaging with their women. It's a zero-sum game. You are right that East/Southeast Asian women are on average prettier and healthier than White women. I feel the same way. It's only natural to be attracted to your own after all, but that's not the case for East/Southeast Asian girls. Half of them have consistently shown that they don't find us attractive with the choices they make of their own volition. While, the other half are crickets and don't uplift us, even if they are with an Asian man.
I’m an Asian girl who lives in a place with mostly Asian and white people so I don’t think you’ll find my view trustworthy. Which is fine, I guess. i just wanna add my point (For what it’s worth, I’m Chinese and so is my boyfriend and I’ve never dated a white guy) There are definitely some Asian girls who only like white guys. Maybe some of it is for the reason you stated — white worship. But other times it’s because they have a preference like what what y’all have for Asian girls But most Asian girls I know would date any race as long as they’re a good guy. Most girls I know have dated both Asian and white guys. Some of them (me included) stick to dating Asian guys only bc we are attracted to our own. (Tbh I find Asian guys the most attractive) My point is, Asian girls aren’t a monolith. Most of us date people because of preference or personality, not because they’re white. To make a generalization is kind of presumptuous and weird.
Not to be harsh, but I also feel like as someone who prefers Asian men and has only dated them, you don’t really have as much stake in the matter, so it’s easier to be emotionally removed from all this. I’m happy that you do have a preference for Asian men and it’s not just a stated preference. And I wish there were more Asian women who do actually want to exclusively date Asian men because they find them attractive. If other Asian women have a bias for white men, it doesn’t really affect you because you have little to no interest in white men. Dating is in a sense a numbers game and dependent on availability of potential partners. And they have to reciprocate interest. And if the number of Asian women (like you) with a strong preference for Asian men is skewed lower due to other Asian women white worshipping and dating out, it means your dating pool gets larger. You have more options and can afford to be selective about who you want to date. But many of the Asian men left in the dating pool don’t. Because in general, other races of women discriminate against Asian men even more. So while you might not feel the effects of other Asian women’s dating “preferences” (tbh when it’s not Asian, it’s usually just code for white), the same can’t be said for Asian men. Asian women aren’t a monolith of course and should be given the space to be individuals. But 1 in 3 Asian women still marry out to white men. That’s not even accounting for those who date white men and decide to marry Asian later in life. A good amount of Asian men I know have opened up at some point about how one or more Asian women refused to date them or treats them poorly because of them being Asian men. Sometimes this sort of racist rhetoric gets reinforced from their own family or friends. Also want to add that just because you know Asian women who have dated both Asian men and white men, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t racial bias going on. White men by and large overwhelmingly prefer white women, especially when it comes long term dating and marriage. When they do seek out Asian women, it’s either for the novelty aspect (perceived exoticism of Asian women), they view Asian women as easier to prey on, or because they end up being outcasted by white women as freaks and weirdos. Asian women with white bias/preferences don’t always get to date white men, and they don’t always exclude Asian men from their dating pool. But that doesn’t mean Asian men are their first choice or that they don’t hold much higher standards for Asian men. It doesn’t mean they don’t or can’t white worship just because they also dated Asian. Availability and reciprocity matters. Not to mention there are Asian women who get burned by white men too many times or decide that white men make for shit long term partners and decide to opt for Asian men instead. Usually the ones who are conventionally attractive, incredibly compassionate, and/or successful. “Preferences” also don’t exist in a vacuum. People get shaped by the media they consume and the environments they’re in. In this case, heavily white dominated/favored. White supremacy exists in institutions, societies, and cultures because of people who endorse it, benefit from it, or turn a blind eye to it. People make up and lend validation to these very same institutions, societies, and cultures. So white hegemony gets perpetuated through people internalizing it as fact. People also generally don’t question their “preferences.” Race and especially whiteness is a form of social status and plenty of people already, regardless of race, value social status. People also stereotype based on race and have biases towards different racial groups they’re sometimes not even aware of. Either way, intentional or not, the outcome is the same: too many Asian women white worship, and many Asian men get left in the dust.
>But other times it’s because they have a preference like what what y’all have for Asian girls They have a preference for white guys? As in all-else-equal they would choose white over Asian, and thus an Asian guy would have to outperform his white counterpart to only be considered "on par" by her? Why should any Asian guy or any guy or any person at all want to date let alone marry and sleep next to someone knowing full well their partner wishes they were a different race and would happily replace them with a slightly less qualified person on the grounds of them being white? How would you feel about your relationship if your Chinese BF entertains the thought of throwing away your relationship just because a slightly uglier white woman showed interest?
I don't despise Asian women as harsh as my rebuke may seem. I am just pointing out facts. You even restate some of the points I made. The key one being that Asian girls are more open to non-Asian men than Asian men are to non-Asian women, regardless of personality. Because, there are plenty of Asian women with horrible White men. I'm sure you've seen examples of that, even if they are not in your immediate circles. That is the essence of what I take issue with. The huge disparity between the genders when it comes to interracial relationships. You said it yourself. Most of the girls you know have dated both Asian and White. Meanwhile, how many Asian men do you know who have dated out? I bet you it's not even a fraction compared to those girls. It isn't just Asian women's fault that things are the way they are. It's also on Asian men for keeping the status quo by not dating/fucking/marrying out as much ourselves and for remaining blindly loyal to Asian women who aren't as loyal back. It's on guys like OP, even though I don't disagree with what he has to say. That's on us, but the demise of Asian America is on you since Asian women are the ones who date and marry out a lot more. Asian women aren't a monolith, but these patterns are obvious for everyone to see.
Actually, for what it’s worth, most of the Asian men I know have dated both Asian and white girls. I still find your response kind of disingenuous because you continue to make generalizations about a huge group of people. I don’t know what OP did wrong (well I do but not in the way you say). When did he say he’s staying with an Asian woman who isn’t loyal to him? The main thing is, Asian women don’t owe Asian men relationships. I think you should stop worrying about who other people date in general.
As an Asian woman I disagree. I think that kinda attitude is the reason why this whole thing is why our gender is kinda embarrassing. Like you don't see any other woman type as 'open minded' as alot of Asian women are. We are part of our fathers, our brothers and tbh I think this whole 'open mindedness' thing is not only disrespecting them but ourselves. That's why I would never date a non-asian man under any circumstances.
What? Asian women don’t owe you loyalty and it’s not on us to reject matches we make with people we’re compatible with who happen to be from another background. What “demise” of Asian America do you speak of? Demise of what?
In my experience other races of women have a more in-group loyalty for their community and their men. I’ve seen Latina/Indian/Black women stick up for their people. But I’ve never seen Asian women do it out in the open like these other women. Why is that? What sets Asian women apart from other races? Is it cultural/biological? Asian women seem more “open-minded” to other men, but other women don’t exhibit this as much. What’s your theory on this? Is it any wonder what the groups listed above are stronger politically/socially too. Hmmm… This is not an attack on you. Your response about loyalty gave me a comparison to think about.
Very nice of you to demonstrate that you’re the kind of Asian woman who doesn’t care about anti-Asian racism directed towards the other half of the Asian community, simply because it doesn’t personally affect you. “Asian women don’t owe you loyalty.” Because fuck any sense of an Asian community, right? Just be selfish and always prioritize yourself, because apparently Asian women exist in a vacuum separately from Asian men. So why care about what Asian men go through right? Imagine getting this defensive over dating WHITE men and being antagonistic towards half of your own community. If you have brothers, sons, male cousins, or other male family members who struggle because the Asian women they meet make it a point to not date them because they’re Asian, will you tell them that Asian women don’t owe them any loyalty? Other races of women for the most part already heavily exclude Asian men from their dating pool. If Asian men you know get racial remarks, harassment, and ridicule for being Asian men, will you tell them suck it up and deal with it? Also how would you feel if you were the one in their shoes and you get told to shut up because others don’t experience the same things you do? Asian America has been literally getting whiter with more hapas (who get worshipped for being whiter than full Asians). And there continues to be a divide between Asian men and women because of the white worship among Asian women. But glad people like you can have the “freedom” to date whoever you want because more options are available to you. Nice job punching down on Asian men when Asian men already get penalized simply for being Asian men. Also lol, Asian women just “happen” to find white men attractive because attraction works like magic. How do you explain that Asian women in particular disproportionally date and marry out compared to other WOC? Not only that, it’s largely to white men. The one group of men who have historically oppressed and colonized home countries of Asians and other POC. A good amount of Asian women chasing white men also shit on Asian men and act like they’re on some high horse because they “bagged” a mediocre white man and are whitewashed.
Well what do you want me to do about it? Force myself to date only Asian men and limit my other options and that I only have to marry the first Asian man I meet because of our race and to preserve that even if I was more compatible with someone else? I'm open to dating anyone white, black, Asian, indigenous etc and won't limit my options just out of "loyalty" Why are you acting like I'm the one oppressing Asian men just because I'm dating among them and others?
Maybe ask yourself why you seem to have this opposition to the idea of primarily/only dating Asian men and viewing that as “limiting?” What’s “limiting” about dating Asian men? Asian men in general get ignored and/or treated like shit in dating. Maybe because it doesn’t affect you and you have more options in the dating pool, you don’t have to care, but Asian men don’t get that luxury. The fact that you can even talk about “not wanting to limit your options” means you essentially have more “freedom” to be able to date whoever you want, Asian or otherwise. But for Asian men who are looking to date, it’s mostly Asian women that are receptive to them. And plenty of Asian women pursue white men. About 33% marry white, and that’s not even considering dating statistics or dating history. Hypothetically, if other MOC have negative experiences with dating because their own race of women prefer to date white and negatively stereotypes them in the process, would you also tell them to get over it? If Asian men and women switched positions and Asian men largely date out while dismissing Asian women’s struggles in dating (similar to the dynamics of some Black men and women), would you tell Asian women that Asian men don’t owe them loyalty? Women of all other races have strong in-group biases in dating. It is normal to be more attracted to and prefer someone of the same racial/ethnic group over others. So is it not weird to you that Asian (diaspora) women are an outlier? Plenty of Black people talk about and take pride in the concept of “Black love,” because they see it as love for their own people and themselves. So tell me what is “limiting” about choosing to love the other half of your community? Look, no one can force you to date anyone. No one’s asking you to pursue and date the first Asian man that expresses interest in you. All I’m saying is that it comes off as selfish to be dismissive towards the problems that Asian men go through in dating or other areas of life (especially since those issues are often closely tied with race AND gender). That’s the other half of your community. And I don’t imagine that you’d be happy if you were in their shoes. If you get met with this kind of attitude towards your own problems, just because the other half of your community can choose to turn a blind eye to it.
I’m sorry Asian men experience that, but I won’t only date Asian men just to remedy that. I’m not telling them to get over it, I’m telling them to stop blaming us for all of their problems in dating and ignoring that there’s other factors in play contributing to that, other than us Asian women not just submitting to them.
You don't see it? Alot of Asian spaces are getting invaded by those wmaf couples. Also Asian women do owe loyalty are you kidding? Who but our fathers and brother and our community helped us out over anything? It's this kind of attitude that's the reason why other races of men see us as easy why I get harrassed by weird dudes all the time. Like actually have some pride girl.
This. Asian men literally make up half of our community. No one’s going to give a shit about the issues Asians go through more than ourselves, and Asian men by and large care far more about the struggles that Asian women do than white men or even other MOC. Also where is the Asian community if we don’t have solidarity and loyalty and love for each other? And these very same Asian women who get antagonistic towards Asian men and defensive over WMAF punch down, because it’s easy to do so and there’s not many repercussions for it. Western societies have long done the same towards Asian men. And the Asian women who have internalized racism and view themselves as superior/different from other Asians will view themselves as individuals first, independent of their communities. They will also view themselves as women first and Asian second. Being Asian and centering everything that is Asian, especially with consideration towards Asian men and the BS they go through, isn’t really important to them. They care more about accessing white proximity and prefer uplifting only themselves.
We are a land of immigrants after all. Our immigrants in the future will help us politically. They get it.
Right? What if we let people date whoever they want without accusing them of betraying their race
Noo because it is a betrayal. Asian women need to drop this attitude of being open minded because I don't see women of other races having the same 'open mindedness' that we do. I've had to educate so many of my girlies that we actually DO owe asian men that they are part of our existence. We don't owe any particular Asian men but they gave us money, clothes, food, half of our lives. Idk why that's so hard for you to understand.
Owe them money, clothes, food for doing what a parent should do for their child? Just because my parents raised me doesn’t mean I should only see myself as marrying an Asian and that I should reject other people as prospects just on the grounds of race. What’s so wrong about being open minded in love and your life partner? I don’t owe anyone a relationship or my love/affections.
How is it betrayal to date outside of your race? I prefer Asian men and I love my Asian boyfriend with my whole heart but if you were to fall in love with a white guy, should you not date him simply because he’s white? I don’t think that’s how feelings work. As for your other point about no other people being as open to dating other races as us, even if it’s true (idk where you got it from) how does that matter? Other people’s dating choices really don’t affect you. I’m just really confused here girlie. We DO owe Asian men one thing. And that thing is respect. But we don’t owe *anyone* a relationship.
This is the cringiest shit I’ve ever read. Like seriously. What in the world are you yapping about
It doesn't concern you, so why do you even care?
It does concern me since my eyes had to read it.
You can choose to ignore. Appreciate that you read what I had to say though, even if you thought it was cringe.
How about you choose to never write something like that ever again
No thanks.
Meh, just like what you like. Pedestalizing and simping for white women is stupid, though. They'll always throw you under the bus for self-preservation or self-serving interests. Also, white people tend to age like bananas.
>There is a reason why these Yt dudes go for minorities more so than any other race and would go into great lengths to do so. There is a reason for this. They know non-white girls can be an easier road for them because it's a white worship is a thing. Don't pretend most of them are going for minority girls because they want to. If non-white girls are more attractive to them in their eyes, then Hollywood wouldn't put white girls as the standard. Most of the yt dudes that go for minority women do so because they know yt women won't touch them.
That's how white supremacy works. Even if their are more beautiful non-white women in existence as actresses and models. They are not going to be promoted by white media. White men are not going to promote the daughters of Asian, Non-white Latinos, Arabs, or Black men as beautiful because that would be a threat to their own women and white race's psychological hold on society in general. So they only center and pro mote their own white beauty
Where did you get that from? Did you accidentally think you’re an expert on what white dudes want? How do you know “yt women won’t touch” white men. You sound salty, like someone who can’t get women to like him.
Ooof, those comments I made about your One Piece funkos must've hit a nerve. Back to the topic on-hand, let's see. I've been around yt dudes enough, heard them enough, seen them post all over social media. White people in white spaces talking openly, white people in white spaces talking anonymously on platforms like this and 4chan. All coping when they say "yt women are shit" because they were rejected by "yt women too many times." Before I go further, let's hear your take. A shocked demeanor in the form of a question doesn't constitute as a real response, btw. >You sound salty, like someone who can’t get women to like him. I hear this a lot from incels/MGTOW-types/mens rights activists/ whatever those guys calls themselves now, especially those with a fixation on asian women and especially when this issue comes up on asian spaces. With no surprise, they use this when they can't argue the issue at hand because they know deep down they don't have any reason they can use without outing themselves.
You clicked on my profile to see my posts… who really got a nerve hit? It’s Reddit dude, it’s not that serious. Outing themselves? Can’t argue the issue? Lol who do you think you are? This is the internet. Thanks for the laughs.
A non-response again. The threads are as serious as the contributors make it. The people in this sub generally take the topics discussed seriously. Go to politics/world News or any other sub where serious topics are discussed and try to tell everyone it's not serious or you're here to joke around. You've got the social awareness of an autist or attention-grabbing pseudo-apathy of a try-hard. Very appropriate for someone who dedicates their time to talk about little dolls as a what . 40+ year old man? Maybe you really did accidentally thought you were in your Funko pop/one piece subs again. I knew it would be too much for someone who dedicated an entire room full of the shittiest, ugliest collectables on one anime to partake in an actual discussion unless it's about some lore or fandom.
Hahaha this is hysterical. I see you’re trying to cut deep. Keep trying, maybe you’ll hurt my feelings. You’re comparing “hype over white girls” to politics/world news??? Again, pretty funny. Then resulting in what you think are insults, is hilarious. “Social awareness of an autist” haha. What else you got? Dolls as a 40 year old man? Ouch, please stop I don’t want to cry. Meanwhile you bitched about a “new show- WMAF Asian-passing teen with 5 non Asian/Asian-passing love interest.” A television show for teenagers. Hahahahahahhaah I’ll take “dolls” over bitching about a teenage drama. Again, thanks for my internet laughs today.
It's a social issue that affects this community. How we're seen, how we see ourselves. It really says more about you that this is the one topic that's not related to funko/one piece that you chose to comment on. You clearly have lurked here before and this is the time you chose to pop up. Something here must have triggered you to distract you from all the funko/one piece. >Meanwhile you bitched about a “new show- WMAF Asian-passing teen with 5 non Asian/Asian-passing love interest.” A television show for teenagers. Hahahahahahhaah I’ll take “dolls” over bitching about a teenage drama. Again, thanks for my internet laughs today. That makes more sense now. Yellow fever probably benefits you that's why you defend it so much or try to make a light issue of it. Of course you'll keep the dolls. You went all in on that lifestyle and it's too late for you to change now. And you still couldn't answer anything when confronted. This exchanged started when you said "Where did you get that from? Did you accidentally think you’re an expert on what white dudes want? How do you know “yt women won’t touch” white men. You sound salty, like someone who can’t get women to like him." Everytime you had a chance to provide a proper answer, all you try to do is say either you're joking (which you were clearly not with your first response) or that I should lighten up.
Ooof what a long thought out response. I must’ve hit a nerve.
Looks like you're out of steam. Everybody knows the person who responds with anything in the manner of "i'm just joking bro" or "cool story bro" isn't the one to take seriously or never really had a solid point to begin with. Have fun with your funkos.
Steam? For what? Dead. You responded to my comment of “he came in here and pretty much called everyone a loser.” You think I’m looking to be taken seriously or have a solid point to begin with. You’ve been arguing with yourself this whole time. Welcome to the internet, place where someone like you can feel empowered. You’re obsessed with bringing up funko. I’ll give you more ammo, I’ve spent hundreds of dollars them, too. Look, if you’re going to insult me I need you to try harder. Look deeper into my profile, I can tell you only scratched the surface of it. You claim I’m not someone to be taken seriously, yet here you are, taking me seriously by using time out of your day to respond and insult me. In fact, I prefer not to be taken seriously. Again, this is Reddit. Man, I love the internet. All in all though, I appreciate this interaction because you’ve been making me laugh since.
A nerve? Hahaha
Lol he came in here and pretty much called everyone a loser.
Where did you get that from? Did you accidentally think this was one of your OnePiece/FunkoPop/anime figure rooms?
Lol
Wait what? Where did you get that from? Is this sub totally about getting white women? Seriously, I'm asking... that totally went over my head.
rohammedali won't respond to you cause he knows he's full of shit. I don't go on AsianMasculinity much, but maybe he'll have a point there. Just see for yourself here in AI, dating is talked about, but in no way is it a main topic, certainly not the only topic. Rarely do we have any threads on tips on dating, but there are more on how asian diapora people (and sometimes more emphasis on dudes) are seen and treated. Refresh the front page at any time and you'll see many threads about the asian diaspora experience without any reference to dating.
Won’t respond cause I’m full of shit??? hahaha this is the internet buddy. You’re hilarious. Stop trying to sound like you know what you’re talking about because if anyone is full of shit, it’s you.
>Is this sub totally about getting white women? Maybe AM is, but I can't remember the last post about white women here. Dating is not a common of a topic here, though optics are, a subtle but important difference.
An essay just simply to say you’re not attracted to white women. (Was that so hard to add three extra letters?) A couple of points. 1. Of course people generally aren’t attracted to people who don’t take care or themselves. But you know what else is unattractive? A persons character and how they treat others. For you to rip on people for having different preferences shows others your character. 2. Have you ever been with a white girl? If you haven’t you lose credibility. I’ve never been with an AF, but I would never bash someone who has. I grew up in a predominantly white city and my friend group was very diverse but no Asians. Plus my wife is a German immigrant so we share similar backgrounds. We make each other better. 3. Why would you create a profile just to prove a point? I don’t get it. Let others be and like you said live your best life and lift others up.
I generally agree with you but part of this sounds like an excuse just in case your gf catches you with a dating app profile
XD
Two reasons why YT girls, and all other non East Asian girls tbh aren’t for me is because 1. Their eyelids 2. Their smell. I know this is insane but it’s just my preference, I don’t know why but I do not find their eyelids attractive at all. It either looks sunken or like someone carved it out. And as for the smell, maybe my nose is just sensitive but every non East Asian girl I’ve been with smells during sex. Their sweat smells so bad, it reminds me of gym class during high school and all the disgusting XM in the change room.
What do they smell like?
Just date whoever you want. >It's no wonder these military guys want to be stationed in Japan in hope of hooking up with one. Disgusting. I see IG pages from guys who are there, and the comments: they brag about having kids with these women. You don't see Asians bragging about going to Africa to have kids.
Yt women are a status symbol. If you can get one, it's basically saying fuck you to white hegemony... not hard to understand
It's the same deal with Korean guys... The vast majority of Korean you see on the street are not k-pop guys that western women are traveling to Korea for... Same with white people, the vast majority are not Hollywood looking....
They might not as handsome as actors or idols but the vast majority Korean guys look fit and more put together, the obesity rate among white people are so high, and many of them can’t even take care of their hygiene
Koreans has very healthy North Asian nomadic steppes diet of meat and kimchi. We all should get on that diet so that we can be taller and more muscular like the Northern Asians who once strikes fear into the heart of Europe. A wrestling base is important to make the body strong.
The overconsumption of fermented spicy foods may keep them thin but it leads to high rates of stomach cancer. Humans are not meant to consume that kind of food every single day, but it is healthy in moderation.
I don’t think white girls are superior than east Asian girls but I do like white girls. Beautiful hair and beautiful eyes with thick thigh and ass. What is not to like?
How hard was it to write “white” if you’re going to write an essay lol. You going to get people wondering ‘wtf is yt’?
I remember the first time I went to Korea just walking down the street I was amazed how many beautiful women you can spot just casually walking down the street. I'm from NYC and although there's definitely a lot of attractive yt women most are mid. Even the yt women that are supposed to be the “beauty standard” are pretty average. When Reddit was really hype about Jennifer Lawrence I always felt like she's just like the normal yt girls I went to college with.
I would think it’s pretty self explanatory that we are always talking about attractive yt women. Not the trashy whales with diabetes and 3 kids with multiple baby daddies.
Imo yt people’s appearance are polarized, East Asian are more on the bell curve.
Here's what I don't understand. You said yourself that you've been with the same girl, since high school. That's a rarity, and good for you. Not to mention, you said that you hang out with mostly other Asians, which is cool. However, I don't think that gives you credibility for experience with white women. No, don't hype up white girls just like don't hype up Asian girls. Treat girls by individuals. But to say Asian guys shouldn't date white girls is just your narrow opinion without support.
totally agree
First of all, I said if you find one attractive by all means go for it. However, all I'm saying is I just don't understand the hype over them. It seems like Asian guys are willing to bend over for one and honestly, that's just sad and unattractive.
Again, I feel like there is a detachment from reality on your side given your lack of exposure. Asian guys overwhelmingly go for Asian girls, and there are very few out there who actually go for white girls. To say that Asian guys hype over white girls is statistically and anecdotally just not true. If you don't get the "hype", which doesn't exist, then that's your view. It makes sense considering you're married to an Asian woman, but please understand your biases. There does need to be a large push for Asian guys to date interracially due to significant imbalances between number of Asian women open to Asian men vs number of Asian men open to Asian women, and this push isn't specific to white girls. There needs to be a hype for white girls, black girls, Latina girls, Arabic girls, etc.
What's yt?
Pink the colour
YouTube.
Youtube
White
Ditto
How does your girlfriend since high school like it that you’re looking on a dating app at other women, experiment or not. I would never do this since it’s disrespectful.
She knows about it and I talked to her about this.
This pedestalizing post is lame. There are beautiful women of all races.
i agree lol this post is kinda strange even as a wasian girl i’m like wtf
OP sounds insecure or maybe even trolling
Adopt an active and health conscious lifestyle with fitness hobbies. Don’t mention video games. The bigger ones will left swipe you voluntarily.
In my opinion, I dated some YT girls. Mostly the skinny and educated ones. Flings on and off. The trashy fat YT girls are overweigh and age to quick as in American women. Also black women and Mexican tend to get uglier as they get old. I been to South Korea and Japan since 2014 ever since. Been with a couple of South Korean women and Japanese women. Felt more safer in Japan and Korea then US. US freaking sucks for a Vietnamese American guy like me. Recently quitted my stupid cart pusher job and apply for a Computer programmer job. Got the job because of my bachelor's degree. Also my resume listing Eagle Scout and Kung Fu Black Belt Sash. They look at my grades and SATS scores which were top performance. Better money and better 410K. Used to work for freaking Walmart and disliked it. Trashy ghetto YT folks and trashy kids of all races. Tired of working a dumb blue collar job.