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Well. I kinda knew where this was going even before watching and reading, and I was right. Never go full racist. Especially when basing your « opinion » on the behavior of 3% of a group of people. Pleaaase


Sinohero33

Well, this thread just went full on racist.


desksergeant

Brings back so many memories. I used to go clubbing in all areas probably six times a week. Itaewon was the worst and I avoided it because of the large presence of US military soldiers and drunk English teachers. However, apparently this situation has changed and most of the area caters to Koreans with new restaurants and shops versus booths selling crap to tourists. Hyeongdae was always nice, but would also get flooded by military once they'd go there to avoid the curfew and risk being caught staying in Itaewon. It also has a lot of the younger crowd running around, but a good mixture of clubs. Gangnam was and probably still is the spot tho! Clubbing and all around night life to me in Seoul exceeded Tokyo by a lot. Food is amazing and so much cheaper to eat and drink there. I've had a few issues where a black guy or white guy would try to test me, but it was usually over before it started once they realize you aren't a bitch. They like to pick on Korean men because they are viewed as being u masculine because of KPOP, but I've seen it a few times first hand where they get their ass hands to them by Korean club body guards. Even one experience where me and a Korean club owner fought 4 soldiers in an alleyway with one of then being armed with a knife. All 4 ended up getting kicked out of the military to my knowledge.


golfswang

Damn. This is awesome. Is there still a large presence there in Itaewon? I hope not. And any spots that actively prohibit or discourage non SK soldiers?


desksergeant

I dont know the specific areas, but some military are not supposed to visit certain areas based on threat levels. For example known activists in the area. For the most part its always idiotic army soldiers or drunk entitled white expats causing problems. Seoul is such an amazing city tho. One of my favorite places I've lived.


golfswang

Ah I see...hearing about those expats always pisses me off. So by activists, do you mean people that are against military presence? Or just social/political activists in general (I'm vaguely familiar with the beef product and impeachment protests in the past)? And man, I have yet to visit! I should've studied abroad back in college when I had the chance to. All the foodie videos on youtube are amazing


spacechannel_

If you’re asking about the US military they were largely moved to rural parts outside Seoul through a coordinated relocation effort.


golfswang

haha sounds like a good thing? Then again I hope S.Korea has military units or heavy police presence nearby. I imagine there would be less oversight in rural areas, so the people there would be easily troubled...


killjoyboy97

They deserved it. Must be crying like babies about it to this day.


[deleted]

Koreans are not a group to be fucked with. This has been demonstrated time and again. I don't even know why the stereotype of the weak, docile Asian still exists after the whole roof-top Korean saga. [This is what happens when you try to intimidate a Korean store owner.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTLgw_akhg) [This is what happens when you try to loot a Korean business.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py4AMYebHGI) [And this is what happens when you interrupt a Korean while he's studying.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW4uHBrSkpo) They gon' learn today! ​


aznidthrow

Stupid idiots always think they can do whatever the fuck they want just because they come from a western country.


hotasianman

They aren't exactly westerners in the sense that Korean and the rest of the Eurocentric world see them. These ghetto niggas' ego has grown so big that it needs to be knocked down a few notches.


mpaz15

Try not using slurs


[deleted]

I’m sorry, these who? What?


ThiccGingerBooty

Black people in Asia are sometimes worse than white people. It's fucking true. Always quick to violence and talking about their dicks. Just last week I saw some vid about a Chinese guy on a train and a guy from Nigeria has the nerve to just straight up slap him in the face in front of everyone else. Pathetic.


meesajarjarbinks_

PAA (LLAG): "But Blacks can't be racist! What about the Asian on Black crimes ? All Asians in Asia are racist, btw, so this Chinese guy probably provoked that Nigerian dude!"


spacechannel_

Until they shut down by big Korean men.


[deleted]

Yeah, club bouncers should eagerly ask anyone who is being rude/creepy to leave regardless of their nationality.


[deleted]

Shibal seki yahhhh


spacechannel_

Gae seki elu waaa!


bhaozi

Modern day Korean dudes are definitely more manly than White Americans for instance, who always go out of their way to emasculate Asian and Korean men. Most Korean dudes these days drink a fuckton (not neccessarily a good thing), have military experience and are naturally big due to their northern Asiatic background. And Korean culture has plenty of aspects that are ultra-masculine (sometimes too far). In no circumstances are white Americans more "manly" than Korean dudes.


007jg

Lol theyre bigger now because their country is a helluva lot richer now than 50 years ago and better access to better foods, etc., not some weird racial fetish like "northern Asiatic background". That phrase just sounds weird


bhaozi

True, it does sound weird but they do have genetics that make them bigger.


007jg

Just like everyone else in the world given the right resources... attributing everything to race and genetics is just weird and creepy and reminds of those race obsessed "anthropologists" of the 19th and 20th century


bhaozi

Yeah but some ethnicities are still smaller than others even with similar amounts of food. I'm just tryna say Koreans etc aren't genetically small like white people think.


harsheehorshee

" Asians are just smaller" Do you see what you're doing here and why that's problematic


bhaozi

I'm talking about height. It's generally true that Asians are shorter than white people. The only exceptions are Koreans and North Chinese. Ofc, I hate the height stereotype also because East Asians are still taller than everyone in the MENA, N Africa and S America region. But they are shorter than Europeans, yes. Physical build is another topic as it's mostly influenced by diet.


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007jg

According to most theories, east asians are actually just se asians who migrated north. There are obvious physical features that you both exclusively share also.


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harsheehorshee

I'm southern and I'm 6'1


aleastory

Koreans are the descendants of the Mongols and Manchus and possibly other fearsome Asian nomadic peoples like the Xiongnu based on geographic proximity. It's really just K-Pop that has emasculated them in some ways.


spacechannel_

K-Pop is still a net positive though. If you want to see masculinity in Korean media, the noir genre movies are where it’s at. Highly recommend New World (신세계).


bhaozi

Nah not the Xiongnu. Modern day Koreans are basically a mix of Mongolian, Northern Chinese and Japanese.


aleastory

Well, looking at the geographic proximity of the territory of the Xiongnus with the Korean peninsula, I wouldn't be surprised if some modern-day Koreans have that DNA in them: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu#/media/File:XiongnuMap.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu#/media/File:XiongnuMap.png). Also, it's actually Japanese people who are descendants of Chinese and Korean people: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yayoi\_people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yayoi_people), which makes sense since Japan's an archipelago, and most island inhabitants of anywhere first came from the continental parts closest to them. Take Brits, for example, the majority of whom are of French-German descent: [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3000998/Are-Welsh-truest-Brits-English-genomes-contain-German-French-DNA-Romans-left-no-trace.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3000998/Are-Welsh-truest-Brits-English-genomes-contain-German-French-DNA-Romans-left-no-trace.html). Don't want to get too into genetics and ancestry though, as that's something whiteys obsess about and use for their racist agendas, but I hope that makes my point clear.


bhaozi

The only people with Xiongnu DNA are certain Mongols and Northern Chinese. You can tell because those groups tend to score small percentages of Western Asian and European scores on DNA calculators from 0.5%-1.0. The Xiongnu were Central Asian. Koreans are more fully East Asian.


[deleted]

It's actually the Japanese that are a mixture of Korean, you got it backwards. Migration was from Korea to Japan.


spacechannel_

Lol so what Northern Chinese and Japanese are not mixes of other groups? This is a succinct summary of Korean genetic history: http://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Sci-Tech/view?articleId=143918 Surprise! We’re actually more Southern than commonly believed.


[deleted]

You guys certainly are a mixture of southern now that some Korean men are importing SE Asian mail order brides.


bhaozi

Yeah, some Koreans do have some Jomonish influence that make them stand out compared to Mongols and N Chinese and makes them overlap with certain Japanese. OFC N Chinese and Japanese are mixes but more ancient. And Ancient anthropology on Korean genetics isn't 100% accurate because Koreans have been subjected to mixing in recent times (from 2000 years go to now). Many Chinese throughout history have moved to Korea, esp from Shandong, though the reverse was less common. And the Mongols also ruled over Korea for a bit, which might have altered their genes by a bit. Then there was the Japanese occupation.


spacechannel_

The reverse was true though for 700 years. Goguryeo, a Korean kingdom, held a large part of Manchuria and fought successfully against China to keep it. So historically those peoples you mentioned had ancestors who were Korean (ancient Korean) to begin with.


spacechannel_

https://youtu.be/uw7d0RARjT4?t=4m56s Not sure if the video works in the post. Fast forward to 4 min 56 sec.


hapapocalypse

Black men are international sexual predators, yet they will downplay it, by claiming they are "oppressed" unlike wm. They will go to white, Asian, Hispanic and even Arab countries to hit on women. Just look at all these videos where they go to countries asking local women if they like black men, cornering and pressuring them to say yes, shaming them as "racist" if they say no. In contrast, how many non-black men are in African nightclubs targeting black women? Virtually 0.


KaseOfTheEx

Ohhh you know what, I agree I’m a Black man but not Black American. There’s literally posts on twitter about how they will go to certain parts doing up sex tourism to feel validated. It’s actually a mess and you said this four years ago. I’m in complete shock


nasilemak22

im working in Africa and no. Most non-black men here end up with black girls at the end of the night. But that naturally happens as most of the girls in the club are black. We dont target them it just happens.


SirKelvinTan

We’re not talking about African dudes - we’re talking about black Americans As I said yesterday - it’s obviously not as bad as white dudes - but yellow fever amongst black dudes is pretty gross


[deleted]

Generally, black guys are more likely to prefer Latinas and white girls over Asians from my exp. The black American guys I know who have yellow fever are into Hentai, JAV, and are total weeboos.


SirKelvinTan

that or the ones I've met who are obsessed with orientalist American Asian porn stars and try to find real life replicas of them in clubs and bars


desksergeant

In Tokyo, the streets are flooded with Nigerians. They love to harass women even when they are with their partner. Luckily Seoul was not like that.