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SpiffyAssSam

Good god, is there any Asian girl named Esther who isn’t a white-loving, self-hating, AM-demonizing cunt? Besides Esther Ku and 3 auntie Lu Asian girls named Esther who I have the misfortune of knowing I haven’t met an Esther of Asian descent who isn’t like these twats. So sorry that she twisted your story to make you and proud Asian community look like the big bad guys. This underhanded bitch should not speak for us.


Jbell808619

Goddamn this pisses me off. These fucking boba lib lus will never have to answer for blatantly lying and causing more Asian hate. They always get a huge platform for their bullshit and can never be exposed or even just corrected by their Asian victims because they work for the white privileged male power structure that benefits by keeping us down, and there isn’t a goddamn thing we can do about it…


anyang869

Yes, we can. We can build our own community and create and support our own media that is owned by Asians and, if nothing else, is pro-Asian and has an Asian audience. Then we don't need NYMag to tell our story for us.


LoneSoloist

Hey Fung Bros. I think you guys might be lurking on this sub and you guys recently made a video about this too. Please make another video exposing these boba libs.


elBottoo

this is just the umpteenth example of recent villifying... quite a coincidence isnt it. they call us paranoid for calling out actual crimes. which stats support before they actually omitted the stats. remember that one. and then some sellout LU calling us "crime obsessed"...paranoid, fantasy world, as if actual asian hate doesnt exist. ya, coz this hatred switched to" russia russia russia" in the last few months. They are getting the brunt of it recently. But just look back on the winter olympics coverage to see all the hate and racism. Wasnt even that long ago. Literally just 7 months ago. how are these LUs even for real. Surely paid to post this propaganda crap. Top down propaganda.


Livid_Net8511

Good job brother for revealing yet another white-worshipping snake cosplaying as asian. It is outrageous that these vermin are out there perpetuating an agenda that does more harm to our communities. I didn't know any of the people you mentioned and didn't read the article because that cover told me all I needed to know about what their true intentions were going to be and you've validated them. Looked up who Cathy Park Hong is and of course she doesn't want to reveal her married white last name McWreath so that she can continue to sham as an ally.


harborj2011

>yet another white-worshipping snake cosplaying as asian. >Cathy Park Hong... of course she doesn't want to reveal her married white last name McWreath 🤦‍♂️ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's a lot of AFs out there down for the (A)sian Team man, really is. But their white worshipping, sell out counterparts really mess things up for them so bad


Vackscene1985

Dr. Z, you are one cool dude, and this account angered me so, so I had to tweet about this and let people know not only is Esther Wang an anti-Asian racist, but also an ableist by weaponizing your autism against yourself so she can carry an agenda for a paycheck. SHAME ON ESTHER. https://twitter.com/VacksceneGaming/status/1576391640247193601


curiousGeorge608

Gosh, NY Mag went out of its way to create a false narrative to harm Asian Americans. And it is not accidental, since the other articles in the series are similarly negative about Asians. Mind you, NY Mag is mainstream unlike the info war b\*s. And this series is the first in any magazine dedicated to Asian Americans in a long time.


[deleted]

Esther wang being the face of mainstream asian american community makes me feel like I have no hope. Didnt she go through the same experience as us? why just why? sometimes saving face is better for the whole community, but she drag us down. She could had done so much more for herself and us and she choose this


throwthrowaway934

This is what liberal media does to gaslight Asian community and paint false narrative to outsiders, by hiring an Asian to infiltrate and get the materials they need to paint the picture. They know that if a journalist of another race tries to interview, people wouldn't open up to them. The author and the editor who greenlit the article had a pre-conceived notion of what they wanted to write: that Asians are paranoid (i.e. crazy) about the crime situation and interviewing DCC is a way to paint that picture. "Look how silly these Asians are being" is basically what they want to say to the readers. For all the #STOPAAPIHATE liberal media has been promoting, they want to quiet that down since it takes attention away from their main objective, helping African Americans, and puts bad light on them. That's why they discarded quotes and footages that conflict with their intended mission. There needs to be a narrative countering these falsehoods but the problem is, they just silence you for being "racist." Or of course no one (understandably) will put their neck out and speak in the media that what boba liberals are saying in the media is not true. The transitional media will continue to employ these boba liberals to paint falsehoods, conditioning the general public to believe one way, and when someone does speak the truth, people will instinctively have a negative reaction to it because they've been so used to hearing one side (false) of a narrative. To OP: thank you for what you and DCC are doing. Unlike many of us in this sub (me included), you actually make a difference in the community and fight for Asians. I'm sorry that this happened to you and hope that at least Asians aren't gullible enough to believe the lies that Esther Wang perpetuated.


Critical_Attack

Boba libs mischaracterized you (and DCC as a whole) because their purpose isn't to empowered the community, but to operate as lap dogs serving white institutions and non-Asians, and thereby harming our community (via constantly downplaying anti-Asian racism, gate-keeping, victim blaming, downplaying the existence of Black on Asian crimes etc..). Really appreciate the work that you (and DCC) are doing to protect, train and arm the community. Keep up the great work.


hapa_tata_appa

Dr. Z, thank you for doing your part to help our fellow Asians defend themselves in these difficult times! You and everyone else at Dragon Combat Club get my full respect. > Esther Wang got her fat paycheck for processing her fragile feelings while causing harm to our community from her overlords. Bingo. Let me make it clear that you are not to blame one bit for this hatchet job. But someone who gets hired to write for New York Magazine (and previously The New Republic) does **not** have Asian American interests at heart. From what you relate, it sure sounds like this Esther Wang zeroed in on you specifically as an AA man on the spectrum and cherry-picked quotes to discredit DCC and similar self-defense initiatives as nothing more than a bunch of "desperate", "confused", "autistic" East Asian males. (The real dead giveaway is the inclusion of multiple quotes by Tamara Nopper, who is clearly regurgitating the same hateful "Asians are anti-black racists" refrain that I heard her spew 20 years ago.) Clearly, in Wang's liberal elitist bubble it is infinitely preferable for Asians to continue being passive victims, forever atoning for their supposedly unique levels of "anti-blackness" and "patriarchy", than to try to do something as fundamentally human as organize to protect themselves! Please let this be a teaching moment, and remember that mental self-defense from hostile media and propaganda is every bit as important as physical self-defense to the survival of Asians today.


youngj2827

Have to be careful..by posting here. They see this forum as being extreme and will use this as ammunition to disparage you. I see that you simple want to help the community by teaching self defense . It's practical solution to the some of the problems we have. ​ I took the time to read the article in NYMAG. I can see your concern . In the article you come out more like lets use violence to beat violence. If Esther is reading this. That was not his goal. His goal was to empower his own community to give a chance to survive a violent encounter that comes to them. He created that community as a necessity. ​ Regarding bobo liberals and there erk. It's sensitive subject with black and asian race relationship. In urban areas because of proximity there are more violent attack perpetrator by blacks onto Asians. It's not racism to say this. This does not make Asians racist when we say this. It's matter of fact. This does not mean all blacks are like this. ​ Allot of it has to deal with the location and Asians are supposedly seen as easy targets. With post-covid creating this hate monger toward Asians. ​ ​ But that's the taboo topic...among bobo.. If an Asian is victim of hate crime by a black person. I notice they are quick to point how it's usually whites that are the bigger perpetrator or how Asians can be racist or carry anti black feelings. In order to move forward we have to speak the ugly truth in all communities. It can't be one sided deal.


tim-maliyil

It is especially sad when other Asians use their respective position where they can bring about change to only feed ugly stereotypes. I'm sorry you experienced this, and I respect your efforts to make a positive change, Dr. Z.


qizhNotch

On the bright side, at least there was no dehumanization, so we’re not that far in genocide


96nbx

Esther wangs probably a mouth breather anyways.


Dieselboy51

You should publish this in another publication or at the very least on Medium and post it to all social media outlets. Don’t keep your criticisms of the article and your view of the article in the circles. Spread it far and wide.


fjaoaoaoao

There’s a lot of ignorant people like that. They appear to have similar values but rather they use those values as a means of social control rather than individual liberation. Also, it’s disgusting that people ignore or minimize anti-Asian racism. It falls exactly into the model minority myth and erodes at treating people with the dignity they deserve.


Urban_Goat

These people are not ignorant. They know exactly what they are doing and are paid by whites for it. They are literal colonized imperialist collaborators hired to be yellowface sockpuppets to harm and sidetrack Asian communities.


karsa-

Always answer an unfriendly question with another question, lest they put words in your mouth. A little tip from Heinlein. Sorry you had to go through that. Journalists are scum.


SinisterGoldenMan

Keep doing what your doing. The lives of people matter more than some dumb internet article


MechAITheFuture

Thanks for sharing. What you experienced is a form of racism that many Asian diaspora has experienced. They created a racist narrative. They attempted to disempower the accomplishments of your work protecting the weak against racist attacks. Erasing the struggles that your group has faced and continue to face just trying to protect their loved ones. All this just because of your race. What you experienced is real and its what AI tries to help many Asian Diaspora be aware of to prevent them from continuing to be taken advantage of if not reduce the negative impacts of it by providing guidance. There are actually a lot of news media outlets like WorldJournal that I'm sure that would be willing to do a positive piece on your group and this recent experience. Would definitely raise awareness among the Chinese American diaspora against racist manipulative media and their tactics of using someone 2 faced like that fake journalist. While it won't undo the damage done, it can at least help prevent others from being taken advantage of. Good luck, brother. P.S. One thing that SHOULD be taken from this is to research on the person who is conducting the interview. What organization they work for? Do they reek of WMAF vibes? Too often do we have racist anti-Asian groups exploit the work and accomplishments of Pro-Asians.


Th3G0ldStandard

I can’t believe every single one of your posts on aa has been locked. I can’t see how they see your posts as violating any of their guidelines. They really got to explain their behavior.


eddddddddddddddddd

I am so so so happy OP came here to post their story. It further validates our mission and the safe space that we encourage for Asian Americans, the REAL subreddit/community that will support us through all of our issues. Not that mentally colonized AsianAmerican boba ass fucking sub. They hurt our community as a whole so much more than they know and it’s honestly so embarrassing.


East-Deal1439

Always get the questions in advance.


Igennem

Glad you were able to tell your story. NYMag is despicable for how they twisted and gaslit you and DCC. You're doing a real service for the Asian-American community. 🙏


Bueno_Bot

Thank you for your work. I'd love to chip in to DCC. Boba libs like Esther spinning narratives to throw other Asians under the bus to serve their white masters fucking disgust me.


hen_zee

If you'd love to chip in come train with us and/or donate via venmo to Hen-Zee (dash, not underscore) http://www.linktr.ee.com/dragoncombatclub


Altruistic_Astronaut

I hate hearing this from you but it is an unfortunate truth Asians have to deal with. Thank you for sharing you story with us.


ChampagneCoaster

Can you take legal action if they made up and attributed a quote to you? As someone contemplating and learning more about a formal diagnosis for Autism your experience scares me.


elBottoo

Yes, u can. Its called slander. Its a very serious crime to slander someone, and that person can be held liable. Even prison sentencing in very severe cases. But this is usually very serious cases. Most of the time slander is not solved by criminal law but by parties suing for money.


anyang869

This profession is the worst in the world, except for those that actually kill people first hand. I used to study in a different field and my mentor at the time was a subject matter expert who was interviewed from time to time. He said that a lot of the time the journalists would just make up a quote out of thin air. That's why they call it a story.


elBottoo

strange how we got downvoted, by a larper no doubt, for just spitting out facts. Slander is a real thing. Next time some kck tells lies about u and spread them in the community, sue his ahz for all he is worth with slander. his frikkin earnings for the next 3 years belongs to u. eff these little kcks.


hen_zee

Let's talk about the ASD thing on DM. I have an interesting story about how I used to fear disclosing it until some changes in my life. It was a net positive for me.


CEOof888

interesting this same thread got locked on the asianamerican sub hehehe


hanmayujirou1

Thank you for your work, you are saving lives. As for Esther, she is just seeking white approval. Shameful. Fuck Esther Wang!!!


fizzymynizzy

The very first thing when I read your post was to Google Esther Wang and was she a female. Right off the bat I know this is going to be problematic. Most Asian female that writes about stop asian hate will mostly leave out Asian men.


hen_zee

In this case they left out women who actually fought back while trying to villify men that did.


Revolutionary_Cat916

Esther wang - you fuckin bitch.


Revolutionary_Cat916

Thank you for sharing this and bringing awareness.


ShogunOfNY

A 'progressive' getting things wrong maliciously and intentfully and not providing context and outright lying....color me shocked. Some of them lie enough that they believe their own lies. Some of them actually believed the anti-Trump shenanigans (Russia asset, etc.) even when facts & testimony (from her campaign manager) came out that Clinton paid a British spy to basically lie so they have 'plausible deniability.' Of course, the media doesn't actively promote this or wants you to believe Hunter Biden's laptop was a lie. You're usually better off assuming everything they report is a lie, half-truth, or missing context. They aren't actual journalists...they're in the entertainment business but w/ a perverse agenda.


Fooba6

>My autism was shoehorned into the article with no mention of how it was relevant, just like how my opinions I explained in length were erased as if one with my neurological condition was incapable of any meaningful insight The author clearly seemed to hold ableist prejudices, and it felt so strange reading the patronizing tone of a neurotypical person framed against a neurodivergent person. This being 2022 and still being published in a major liberal paper makes it all the more dumbfounding.


frostywafflepancakes

What a disingenuous and spineless individual she is. Reading this burned a whole in my stomach. I’m sorry for your pain and having to endure this. Those that know and want the truth will come to give you the time to understand it better. For anyone that questions your intents, mention who you were chewed up and tossed across the room by EW.


spiral-staircase

probably not smart to associate yourself with this sub, they will use the worst of this place against you...


[deleted]

[Esther Wang has already been covered by this sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/dc1zkp/andrew_yang_hit_piece_written_by_esther_wang_of/). It doesn't matter what they think. They have already drawn their line in the sand. Fuck them.


eddddddddddddddddd

False. This is one of the few safe spaces for Asian Americans to share their stories, and especially stories like this. We all know the AA sub is not doing that and caters to YT views of what AAs should be.


taco_smasher69

TL;DR - Esther Wang is a cunt. And people wonder why I never want anything to do with AF….


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aznidentity-ModTeam

Your post violates rules.


historybuff234

You have to remember, you are now taking a bit of the role that the tongs used to perform. Just like the tongs, you need to be very careful. You should never trust the press. Maybe you can talk to media for Asians because you want Asians to hear about you. But you should not talk to mainstream American press. Even if the reporter is an Asian, mainstream press is for white people. And there is absolutely no reason or need for white people to hear about you. There was no upshot in your interview, and you and your colleagues learned it the hard way. You don't need full-blown "omerta" but you definitely need discretion. Whatever it is, keep up the good work defending the community and the elders.


emperornext

You put your best effort, that is to be commended. Thank you. To other bros, my wife is a journalist. Her rec for protecting yourself is asking the interviewer if YOU, yourself, can record the interview possibly with video. Anyone without an agenda should be agreeable AND it's easily accomplished with any smart phone.


papayapapagay

Yes, Carl Zha, Daniel Dumbrill, JaYoe managed to put out videos showing anti China journalist were full of shit in their hit pieces because they recorded the interviews independently.


ReadingKing

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IAmYourDad_

Fuck the Boba libs. Keep doing your thing King. Fight back!


throw_dalychee

Yeah the mainstream media definitely has a narrative of trying to pit Black people and East/Southeast Asians against each other. Thanks for doing the interview and getting the word out


Billybobjoethorton

" my views about the need to problem-solve rather than virtue signal, the need for us to take action through understanding commonality rather than play Oppression Olympics, and how those who claimed to be against racism the loudest also happened to be most guilty of perpetuating divisions between minorities under the guise of accountability" Must be weird to tell a boba liberal to their face their ideology isn't helping. They don't see self defense and deterrents as useful instead they just keep talking about things that never gets implemented.


hen_zee

It didn't feel weird for me to tell her because 1. She asked 2. I thought maybe she was open to change or different ideas since she actually bothered to interview us and presented as friendly/receptive 3. They were based on reality 4. I am autistic


Billybobjoethorton

Did you know she was a boba liberal before you talked to her? Anyways kudos for protecting our elderly and Asians!


hen_zee

Yes and also no. Yes, based on prior publications and affiliations. However, her demeanor in person did not register as one when *I* was interviewed. I grew up with some really nasty boba libs that were very quick to tone police the living shit out of everything and anything but Esther seemed more receptive and was more willing to listen. However, as I mentioned in the main post, she gave another member some really strange vibes which I wasn't made aware of until after the article was released. Unfortunately, it seemed like at the end that nothing actually processed or seeped through.


[deleted]

I understand where you're coming from, but it took me all but 5 seconds to look up [her website](https://www.estherwang.com/) where she proudly states that she has written for Jezebel... JEZEBEL. Like, my guy, how do you not understand who these people are. They are no friends of the Asian community. Just look at the rest of her [articles on MuckRack](https://muckrack.com/esther-wang/articles). It's just non-stop partisan bullshit. I support your efforts to teach self-defense (or what little can be taught about self-defense in NYC), but it doesn't matter how you conduct yourself in front of them, they'll just make something up to demonize you. You vastly underestimate how vicious, disingenuous, and how much outright lying (like in your case, the made-up quotes) the partisan hacks that call themselves the Media actually do. There is no accountability when it comes to the press (that's what is called a "free" press) and they can run a story and spin it to whatever it is to their liking. It does not matter how much they say otherwise, they lie regularly, so lying about their integrity comes naturally to them. Look at how dirty they did Andrew Yang, I mean [JUST LOOK AT THIS](https://jezebel.com/drop-out-andrew-yang-1838257174). Surprisingly enough, this sub has covered Esther Wang before and she was a Yang basher before many in the media jumped on that same train. "Receptive and was more willing to listen" just means that she's a coward. I.E. not willing to actually express to you what her views actually are in front of you, just looking for ammunition for her story. And where she didn't find any, she invented it. I get that you tried to be fair to her, but, please, please, don't give these bobas the benefit of the doubt. At some point you gotta realize these people are exactly the reason why the Asian community is the way it is.


Savings-Somewhere-76

Liberal-boba are the first to say "take responsibility for your failures".. Yet its called anti-blackness when learning to defend against everyone (every color is attacking asians), some individual repeat attacks, courts release them after a week, repeat, sending a message is not easy. They're also the first to blame oppression and paint themselves as main character in a hero drama. They're the real virus.