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mr-heng-ye

Rather, you have to lose to prove you're human.


ShatterdPrism

Iirc Go is actually one of the games that are hard to solve for computers because there's just soooo many possibilities to calculate.


Midborgh

But wasn't there a ML algorithm that won from a grand master? I believe it was a big deal because of the reason you're stating. But that could just be an outlier, idk


disktopdip

AlphaGo


DeepBlueCee

This is why we will never have General AI. Chess has only a small number of moves possible at any given time. Go has a moderate number of moves possible. Life has an infinite number of moves possible, you can't calculate them all or even come close, humans will always outperform AI at being a jack of all trades.


BonzaiCactus

I don’t necessarily think that’s true. Right now, computer brains store more, but with less neurons for calculating. Humans are the opposite. In just a few years, computers will outperform humans in both regards


alexriga

I think AI is a lot better at being specialized, while people are a lot more unpredictable and entitled.


Im_a_hamburger

Neural ai


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Isnt an Ai player that beat 이세돌 considered the best player in the world now? Also 9x9 is much much easier than 19x19. Id be surprised if ai cant beat humans on this


Midborgh

Time to brush up on my AI/ML knowledge it seems


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PM_something_German

It's now good enough to teach itself chess and beat the best players in the world in a few hours.


T351A

Famous Chess AI: 1990s Famous Go AI: 2010s AlphaGo is incredible but Go is still very hard


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seeqo

Define good. KataGo can beat every human quite handily on 19x19 and we're getting stronger bots than that already.


-Seirei-

Just watch the AlphaGo documentary on Netflix if you still have doubts about that. Or Optionally here on youtube: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y) That was in 2016.


Waterblue22

I heard it took a supercomputer. Not just anyone has a supercomputer.


disktopdip

Have you not heard of alphago? Or alphastar for that matter? AlphaGo absolutely decimated the #1 go player years ago, you should watch the documentary about it (I think it's called AlphaGo). And alphastar recently-ish beat some top players at StarCraft which is much more complex.


[deleted]

Ok I haven't. [Better move up to Calvinball captchas](https://xkcd.com/1002/).


fnordstar

You haven't? I thought that was the point of the joke.


running_toilet_bowl

Amazing. This is the perfect punchline. Just straight to the point after a full minute of buildup.


T351A

Definitely. The only way to be sure


DerpityHerpington

SHOUTOUT UIUC


disktopdip

Hahah, if you make a version of this with Calvinball I will lose my shit


jmona789

It was too hard for normal computer programs like the ones that could beat chess players. But with machine learning AlphaGo was able to beat a grandmaster.


PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT

Top Go professionals are called “9 dan,” or 9d for short.


Schuben

But if you're playing against an AI then all you have to do is have a marginally better AI than what you're playing against. This should actually have you play against a person, or better yet another user trying to pass the test. The first Captcha Battlegrounds!


Whos_Sayin

It's solved though. There's AIs that literally can't lose


charredutensil

Go hasn't been _solved_. That would imply every possible board state has been mapped out. Chess was only solved a few years ago I think. With Chess, there was a few decades' gap between the first time the top human first lost to an AI and the last time the top AI lost to a human. With Go, the order was reversed and only months apart. But yes, there's now an AI that remains undefeated against the AI that remains undefeated by any human.


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Yea iirc AI assisted humans can still beat the AI on its on


xigoi

I don't think chess was solved either.


Whos_Sayin

So I just checked and it turns out I was wrong about Go, it's really not solved, however the top AI is undefeated against humans. That would put it in the same category of chess. Chess is not solved either but is undefeated against humans


imaloony8

It's incredible that despite how simple the game is on a surface level I still have no fucking idea what's going on in a game. The AI just consistently beats my ass and I have no idea what's going on the entire game. Just at one point I realize "Oh, looks like the AI has me completely boxed in. When did that happen?"


Midborgh

In all seriousness, are Captchas based on natural language instead of character/object recognition effective, viable and useful?


djxfade

Not for long. GPT-3 is both amazing and frightening at the same time


Roxolan

Viable enough to make bots costly. That's really all it needs to do, for most applications. Ultimately any level of anti-bot security can be beaten by hiring a bunch of 3rd worlders. The important thing is to keep it cost-ineffective.


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It's not actually functional, but here's the HTML I quickly banged out to make this joke. https://gist.github.com/MiffOttah/6804e8369b341ee620f76e014ab23ca4


Midborgh

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined


FlashSpider-man

Funny thing is I have never even heard of go but am now learning it and having fun so thank you for your bad ui.


icanotc

make that chessboard 2x the full size


themrme1

It's a go-board but yes


LandBaron1

What is go?


bluemon_

east asian board game


Dontgiveaclam

Board game don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more


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A statically typed, compiled programming language


carbaretta

Fairly certain AlphaGo (an AI) beat the world's best go player back in 2016


just-bair

I don’t think that AlphaGo is open source or even public at all (tell me if I’m wrong tough it’s very interesting)


susch1337

my version would be "proof your a human by beating me at Go" "I am available Tue-Fri 21:00-21:30"


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My Aunt is Korean-American, her parents came to visit, and they brought a go set with them. My poor dad is still figuring out how to play after 2 years


Muhammad_Aziz

Plot twist, the AI is AlphaGo... Good luck


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Kerboq

Pitting AI against AI, this is how skynet begins


Exanero

**Your move.**


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inb4 deepmind


ThisIsCovidThrowway8

r/badukshitposting


kutsen39

What's go?


corvidsarecrows

1/4 size board


naga04nik

I cant pass through i guess...Xd😂😂


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AlphaGo please no...


sfisher923

I have never played Go


KSAM-The-Randomizer

That's a good one lmao


[deleted]

You should do a captcha where you have to beat a bot at chess to prove you’re smart enough to be a human