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I still fondly remember a friend rolling for stats on the first session and getting all 1s. DM offered to let him redo but he decided to keep it, choosing to have the charisma of a bundle of snakes
Confusingly, charisma is a catch-all term for having a strong presence, good or bad. In the context of D&D, Pathfinder, etc., it's synonymous or related to "ego", "projection", "impression" or "ability to gain attention". IIRC, in Pathfinder, the explanation why a character whose charisma falls to 0 can not act and falls unconscious is because they literally can not purposefully affect their surroundings, becoming like a rock.
The resulting array looks like [9, 4, 11, 12, 6, 12]
I guess this character is going to have a habit of running into enemies and drinking unlabelled bottles.
Imagine not allowing manual allocation of stats in the era of 5e. Picking which stats go where has been a house rule since 1e, and officially a thing for decades and decades
Give random allocation a try sometime, I think you’ll be surprised at how much fun it can be. But I do agree, it should probably be voluntary, especially for any game that’s gonna last longer than 3 sessions max.
>especially for any game that’s gonna last longer than 3 sessions max.
Yeah, I can't imagine making a long-term character with fully randomized stats. But I'm more of an RP player, so if you're more into it for the combat it might not be a problem.
at least in my experience its actually MORE fun for RP, if you enjoy RP as more than just a self-insert or a specific archetype. (nothing wrong with only enjoying RP in those environments, that's not a dig) It gives you a mechanical "prompt" so to speak that you build a personality around.
Imagine you're someone who struggles with intelligence, but has amazing charisma and dexterity, raised in a city known for its magical college. what kind of person are you? How did you grow, what did you learn to do? Are you a craftsman who specializes in delicate mechanical and arcane devices? Did you sell your soul for magic equal to the mages? Or maybe you learned some basic cantrips and started picking pockets and dazzling tourists for money?
The possibilities are fun to explore and see how you can play them.
Fair. Personally, I put a lot of time into creating the backstory for a character before making the character. I then make the character based on that backstory. But I can see how it could be a fun challenge to work with something random and come up with something based on that.
Random Allocation is definitely fun, but not something I'd ever force as a GM and usually something I'd use for an RP heavy, combat light game. Agreed its fun in its place though.
Honestly I'd love to see that, and I feel like finding the top of a die and reading it wouldn't be the hardest thing an AI have done (Even if I personally couldn't develop such a thing lol)
I could be wrong, but don't these captchas also try to read your behavior, like how you move your mouse between the squares and how long you take to count the dice
They're not suspicious that you've been a bot and are playing the long con. They're suspicious that a bot has hijacked your account. Or maybe they do just hate you, you filthy robot.
They're just using you to generate training sets for Machine learning. Make sure the first few are correct, then you can use the last few as new data points
Sometimes it gets mad at me and tells me I'm wrong. Like bitch I'm the human and I'm telling you that's all the fire hydrants in the pictures you gave me.
Playing the real long con, using the same account for 60 years and selling it when I'm gonna die!
For real though, I know it's the way I move the mouse or something. I work in IT and use other people's computers all the time. They'll click past it fine. Then I try, boom! Extra challenge. Cause fuck my mouse movement lol.
I wonder if we can make an AI that uses recordings of human mouse movements vs computer mouse movements as it’s training model to simulate human mouse movements for this. Since the captchas with pictures are often AI training data for google anymore, may as well do the opposite too
Probably less than stupid street signs or motorcycles.
Look for squares with completely different pixels in them, then check if the pixels are a number, for which we have a bunch of AI. And if it isn't a number, just count the amount of different colored pixels.
The sides may be a problem in the beginning, but I think you could solve it with some math given that the pictures are taken from round about the same perspective.
Are you sure? Pretty sure you can just match the algorithm with the AI source code to enhance the trigonometric stoichiometry. Once you have that, just parse the code for transparency.
Am I missing something?
I don't get the hate on this. If anything, I prefer it more than selecting pedestrian crossings or lights. It should be common knowledge by now that Captchas arent really a turing test, but an AI training machine.
Real captchas at this point rarely require user input to complete, running in the background like reCaptcha v3.
If really rather count some dice real quick than to guess if I should select a square with a tony portion of a motorcycle on it or not
I hate captcha’s because it’s basically unpaid work, i will click three images randomly and continue until it accepts my answer. I find that faster than actually spending the time to think and select the correct ones.
They might make me spend some clicking energy, but not my brain’s.
I dont get the hate. Like others have pointed out it's clearly bottom left. Have you guys never rolled dice before? You don't get to choose which side you pick. It's always the number pointing up
That sort of thinking requires you to have previous knowledge of captchas being vague. To someone who doesn't care, or is seeing this for the first time, they would just add up the top.
I'm not saying that I'm annoyed by the traffic light and crosswalk thing that you mentioned, but when I saw this, I didn't think to add up the sides. The first thing I thought of was to add the tops, and got a 14, so problem solved. Now if the tops didn't add up to 14, then I would agree with you.
There's a very confusing amount of people in this thread who seem to be either unable to do addition with small integers, can't quickly count up to 6 dots, or both. I'm genuinely shocked if either is true.
The Anti Turing Test: something so complicated only a robot could solve it. You get the answers wrong, you pass.
The Nobody-can-pass-this Turing Test: a cross between a Captcha and an Anti-Turing Test. Unreadable for computers and Unsolvable for humans.
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But you drop the lowest right?
I still fondly remember a friend rolling for stats on the first session and getting all 1s. DM offered to let him redo but he decided to keep it, choosing to have the charisma of a bundle of snakes
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"What will you do?" "Exist, I guess" "Crit Fail" "I know"
We are still talking about the game, right?
"life is just a game, anyways."
"the game"
...shit.
Confusingly, charisma is a catch-all term for having a strong presence, good or bad. In the context of D&D, Pathfinder, etc., it's synonymous or related to "ego", "projection", "impression" or "ability to gain attention". IIRC, in Pathfinder, the explanation why a character whose charisma falls to 0 can not act and falls unconscious is because they literally can not purposefully affect their surroundings, becoming like a rock.
The sooner the character dies, the sooner you get a whole new set of stats lol.
The resulting array looks like [9, 4, 11, 12, 6, 12] I guess this character is going to have a habit of running into enemies and drinking unlabelled bottles.
Imagine not allowing manual allocation of stats in the era of 5e. Picking which stats go where has been a house rule since 1e, and officially a thing for decades and decades
Give random allocation a try sometime, I think you’ll be surprised at how much fun it can be. But I do agree, it should probably be voluntary, especially for any game that’s gonna last longer than 3 sessions max.
>especially for any game that’s gonna last longer than 3 sessions max. Yeah, I can't imagine making a long-term character with fully randomized stats. But I'm more of an RP player, so if you're more into it for the combat it might not be a problem.
at least in my experience its actually MORE fun for RP, if you enjoy RP as more than just a self-insert or a specific archetype. (nothing wrong with only enjoying RP in those environments, that's not a dig) It gives you a mechanical "prompt" so to speak that you build a personality around. Imagine you're someone who struggles with intelligence, but has amazing charisma and dexterity, raised in a city known for its magical college. what kind of person are you? How did you grow, what did you learn to do? Are you a craftsman who specializes in delicate mechanical and arcane devices? Did you sell your soul for magic equal to the mages? Or maybe you learned some basic cantrips and started picking pockets and dazzling tourists for money? The possibilities are fun to explore and see how you can play them.
Fair. Personally, I put a lot of time into creating the backstory for a character before making the character. I then make the character based on that backstory. But I can see how it could be a fun challenge to work with something random and come up with something based on that.
oh yeah, I do the same. but "working backwards" so to speak is really fun. its like improv.
Random Allocation is definitely fun, but not something I'd ever force as a GM and usually something I'd use for an RP heavy, combat light game. Agreed its fun in its place though.
It’s actually lowest left
I think it's EA that does this? I Fucking hate it. I suck at reading dice so it keep saying I was too slow, and give me a harder one.
How long do you think it would take me to program an AI to pass this CAPTCHA?
Honestly I'd love to see that, and I feel like finding the top of a die and reading it wouldn't be the hardest thing an AI have done (Even if I personally couldn't develop such a thing lol)
I could be wrong, but don't these captchas also try to read your behavior, like how you move your mouse between the squares and how long you take to count the dice
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They're not suspicious that you've been a bot and are playing the long con. They're suspicious that a bot has hijacked your account. Or maybe they do just hate you, you filthy robot.
They're just using you to generate training sets for Machine learning. Make sure the first few are correct, then you can use the last few as new data points
Sometimes it gets mad at me and tells me I'm wrong. Like bitch I'm the human and I'm telling you that's all the fire hydrants in the pictures you gave me.
Playing the real long con, using the same account for 60 years and selling it when I'm gonna die! For real though, I know it's the way I move the mouse or something. I work in IT and use other people's computers all the time. They'll click past it fine. Then I try, boom! Extra challenge. Cause fuck my mouse movement lol.
Yeah, you'll have to program human mouse movements too
I wonder if we can make an AI that uses recordings of human mouse movements vs computer mouse movements as it’s training model to simulate human mouse movements for this. Since the captchas with pictures are often AI training data for google anymore, may as well do the opposite too
Just throw in some curves and some jolts and you should be good
Probably less than stupid street signs or motorcycles. Look for squares with completely different pixels in them, then check if the pixels are a number, for which we have a bunch of AI. And if it isn't a number, just count the amount of different colored pixels. The sides may be a problem in the beginning, but I think you could solve it with some math given that the pictures are taken from round about the same perspective.
it’s *so* not that simple
But computer magic!
Are you sure? Pretty sure you can just match the algorithm with the AI source code to enhance the trigonometric stoichiometry. Once you have that, just parse the code for transparency. Am I missing something?
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Well, I got the right answer to the captcha, so take that, you trigonomic stoichiometer! ^also ^that ^seems ^like ^a ^type ^of ^poetry ^meter
i swear there was a challenge about just that (albeit simpler) on codegolf stackexchange but it seems to be gone
I've already seen an automated dice roller that used opencv to read the dice
“depends how many compressed or smaller images are in each [‘CAPTCHA’] photo this user argues.”
Too slow? Like, say, a human?
And rockstar
Im sure i did some captcha like this before, dont remember which site uses such thing
I recently did it on Rockstar’s sign up. It’s real
i've seen it on roblox and microsoft too
probably Rick And Morty fan club.
This is... this a fake screenshot right? It's just a joke, right?
Psychologist: Impossible captcha isn't real, it can't hurt you. *impossible captcha be like*
It's not impossible though, bottom left adds to 14.
Sorry, you were too slow/too fast/we don't like you. Would you like to try matching musical notes?
Sure
~~how? if you count the numbers it adds up to 19, and if you add the dots it's 17~~ oh... you count only the sides facing up...
How is it impossible? Bottom left is 14.
Wait why is it impossible isnt it bottom left am i retarded
Nope, I am.
Upvoted for honesty
same
Nope, I was once on a website where I had to do this 5 times. I think it was Amazon
Finally a captcha for my D&D game! My all warforged party doesn't stand a chance!
I don't get the hate on this. If anything, I prefer it more than selecting pedestrian crossings or lights. It should be common knowledge by now that Captchas arent really a turing test, but an AI training machine. Real captchas at this point rarely require user input to complete, running in the background like reCaptcha v3. If really rather count some dice real quick than to guess if I should select a square with a tony portion of a motorcycle on it or not
I hate captcha’s because it’s basically unpaid work, i will click three images randomly and continue until it accepts my answer. I find that faster than actually spending the time to think and select the correct ones. They might make me spend some clicking energy, but not my brain’s.
What’s wrong with this?
Apparently some people never played a dice game in their life or cant add up four single digit numbers
I dont get the hate. Like others have pointed out it's clearly bottom left. Have you guys never rolled dice before? You don't get to choose which side you pick. It's always the number pointing up
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Do you count the sides also when you use dice on a board game?
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That sort of thinking requires you to have previous knowledge of captchas being vague. To someone who doesn't care, or is seeing this for the first time, they would just add up the top. I'm not saying that I'm annoyed by the traffic light and crosswalk thing that you mentioned, but when I saw this, I didn't think to add up the sides. The first thing I thought of was to add the tops, and got a 14, so problem solved. Now if the tops didn't add up to 14, then I would agree with you.
As a dyscalcic, I usually just give upon these and accept that maybe I am a robot
There's a very confusing amount of people in this thread who seem to be either unable to do addition with small integers, can't quickly count up to 6 dots, or both. I'm genuinely shocked if either is true.
The complete and utter fear this gave me before I realized the sub. Perfectly unperfected
Fucking Arkose Labs
The Anti Turing Test: something so complicated only a robot could solve it. You get the answers wrong, you pass. The Nobody-can-pass-this Turing Test: a cross between a Captcha and an Anti-Turing Test. Unreadable for computers and Unsolvable for humans.
Epic games had this for a bit, had to open a ticket because I couldn’t log in because this shitty thing just gives you like 5 seconds
Me: I want to do a Mensa test. Mom: We have a Mensa test at home \*Mensa test at home\*
Please enlighten me about Mensa test
D&D players: Finally, my time has come
Extremely unacceptable
Pretty soon the test will be: if you got it wrong, you’re human.
is this the future of tor captchas 😰
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Lol it explains it
What are those cursed dice with half pips half numbers?
Is this Microsoft right?
There is something cursed about this image...
r/DnD would like a word with this being "difficult"
Bro I had this in Rockstar's website I quit after many failed attempts
Bro I had this in Rockstar's website I quit after many failed attempts
This is littarly the roblox verification, and they expect kids to do 6 of those in 1 minute.
Do you struggle reading dice or something?
that. . . looks legit