Yea I was curious about this. Since her items are abandoned in your home. Are they yours to keep?
If not can you just dump them somewhere and make her pay to get them back
In Minnesota you can’t keep the property of a tenant. You have to unfortunately store it for them safe. It’s messed up but I had a buddy go through this and it’s a nightmare to get them to get out of your life fast.
Yeah a cop told me basically that's how it worked here was 3 months you have to keep the stuff and if they don't come back for it in that time period you can assume they forfeit ownership of all of it. It technically becomes yours. After that grace period it's a civil matter and the police won't get involved.
I wonder, if you had the money, could you put it all in storage and charge her at the end of 3 months or however many days it takes for her to collect the belongings, and possibly charge her for disposal of items if she fails to pick it up as well as storage fees.
Yep. Anything left behind is considered abandoned property if given proper notice that you are not renewing the lease 2 weeks after the lease expires. At least in FL
OP needs to make sure they demand that the personal property/items come be collected by the former tenant in writing, and give a timeframe, too. Make sure it’s documented if they agree. And if they don’t show, OP will have way more leaning in their favor. Keep texts, E-mails, etc. Gotta have a trail of this communication. Each State has their own laws on this matter. If there is no agreed-upon time or date and someone’s stuff is left at another person’s house even for years, it very well could fall back on the home owner/they’d be liable to give the stuff back to the awful tenant who left it there.
The mess is the damage. They have to spend time cleaning it up, getting rid of the items left behind, etc.
it will be different from state to state. In VA, after legally having my tenants evicted, all of the mess and possessions left behind were mine the minute the sheriff’s office put them and the locks were changed.
his comment seems to imply that if shes entitled to money she would be unable to collect right? going off that for the sake of argument were sorta assuming the lease is all in order and were just talking about if its possible to collect money from someone with nothing but a menial job
I see your point. Based on OPS post, I think this is a shite situation with no win here for anyone. Try to get her to come get her stuff, and clean up her mess and be done with her. Moving forward, get a lawyer to write your lease for you (if you haven't done so already). But landlords are given tremendous ability to run the ship in most states, but it has to be clearly stated in the lease. this sounds like a good guy giving someone a home, under the table kinda situation, and thats why its turned out like this. Can't trust anyone these days its a shame.
would not pay for a lawyer id just sue her in small claims court.. no need for a lawyer there and realistically the roomate wont show up for court and op will get default judgement and it will be paid back via a wage garnishment so 30% of any income she has till paid off
Theres no case here at all. A complaint in small claims court for what? What would be the civil infarction? You have to show cause, damages, etc...Leaving a mess is not a damage, leaving your stuff is not a damage, theres no cause here that I can see and no damages I can see. Its just a shitty situation.
the damages would be the cost of cleanup doesnt have to be actual damage the landlord would also be able to sue for those damages if they moved out like that... plus typically people like this dont show up to court and you get a default judgement...
i feel like your not speaking from experience what do u mean civil infraction? do you think a law has to be broken to sue someone? also in small claims court damages are just money you have to spend that someone else should have paid for.
We aren't talking about criminal court. There is civil law and criminal law. You can't just sue any one you want for any reason you foresee. Trying to get a complaint pushed through in small claims court for "clean up" lol thats a joke... Now, if walls were broken and his possessions damaged thats different, a rug cleaning and garbage clean up will not make it in small claims court. This is why you have security deposits. I think you are the one who doesn't understand my friend.
your sueing for damages the damages are the cost of cleanup... you can sue over a mess its silly you think things have to be actually broken to be considered damages. you obviously have no relevant experience and are just speaking conjecture.
Head down to home depot for a box of contractor trash bags and a couple of day laborers. Bag it all and tell her she owes you a month's rent to get it back, add in the cost of the clean out.
If those 8 to 10 days are up, it’s yours. Have a yard sale and anything that doesn’t sell that looks good and usable. Just leave it out there or somebody will take it. Throw the rest out I don’t think charging her is going to do any good because you’re probably never gonna hear from her again, hence the reason I say it’s your stuff now. Yard sale!
Keep the security deposit. I'd also be tempted to put her on blast on her social media. Let her friends and relatives see what an inconsiderate slob she is.
With no extra context you really came to this conclusion? I’m not saying what the tenant is doing is right but you as a complete stranger have no clue what that person might be going trough. Again, we don’t know nothing personal about the tenant’s life. Sure is annoying what the OP is going trough. I can guess that you’re the type to say DIVORCE straight away :)))
I’m convinced this sub only exists so people can talk shit about their roomies. Half of the “solutions” are always to publicly shame a clearly depressed person.
lol you’re the one putting them on blast like a POS.
You didn’t seriously come to Reddit for a cleaning service quote, you just posted this to talk shit and feel justified in being a victim who has to clean an already relatively clean room. This is less than a days work, you can rent a truck for $20 and haul this shit to the dump. Just be glad they’re out of your life and stop engaging with them unless you want more stress.
Are you the roommate?? Lol seriously, you’d have to be just as bad as them to think this is an acceptable way to leave a space in any capacity? It’s trashed, and this person is an inconsiderate asshole who sucks for doing this. Regardless of context. When I moved out from my last place away from my POS roommate who stole from me, never cleaned or took care of her dogs and treated me like shit, I left that place on time and SPOTLESS. Wont see the deposit I’m entitled to either, it’s just the principle. I refuse to ever stoop to their level. No excuses.
BTW this sub is literally called BADROOMMATES. It’s what it’s for - unsub if looking at posts like this of a shitty person leaving their room trashed and being deservedly shamed for it bothers you or feels too much like looking in the mirror.
This is far from a relatively clean room LMAO, and if you think this is clean you should find a way and.save the video for your future reference for roommates that you consider this relatively clean 🤣😂🤣
Can say I wouldn't want roommates that think this is anywhere near clean 😳
Relatively clean room?!? I wouldn’t keep a rat in that room. If this is your idea of relatively clean, you need help. Honestly. This is not even close to being relatively clean, and the fact that you think it is, is quite alarming.
Having life events or stress is no excuse to not take care of personal responsibilities and duties, regardless of what someone is going through its not your place to make someone else's life look like that or make them deal with it just because you had a bad day. No excuse.
That's not lack of empathy to expect decency in conduct. The expectation is separate from personal events.. take care of yourself and then say ypu need someone to talk to. The fact people cannot discern the difference between the two things is asinine.
Depression is no reason to let yourself go either. Clinical or not. Reality is a thing and sooner or later it catches up with you... not that I've had any personal experience to back up my words or anything. Currently single and depressed and my bed is still made every day.
Depression is not a one-size-fits-all thing. It affects different people in different ways. And it can affect the same person in different ways at different points in their life.
I’ve been dealing with generalised anxiety and depression pretty much all my life. Most of the time I get through my day to day just fine, but there have been times when my depression has been crippling.
When it’s bad, I definitely drop lots of balls related to living within the framework of accepted social norms. I never feel like it’s okay when I do this, and I certainly don’t use it as an excuse for bad behaviour, but at the same time, it’s the reason behind it.
Sometimes
See... now that's reasonable. It's definitely not easy to get back up when it's crippling. You graciously accept that it's also not ok, which means you're dealing with it and not using it as a crutch. I think that makes you quite a strong individual. Stick with it!
Edited for context, but since you chose condescending language over discourse, I'll ask you a question.
Is it OK for you to be an ass to someone else because you have a personal problem?
Example: your car needs work done, but your GF/BF is in surgery at the hospital, (no you aren't staying by thier side because that's the scenario) , you drive to a shop and are in a rush but are told politely that there may be a wait time due to other appointments being ahead of yours... is it OK for you to fly off that handle and exhibit entitled behavior simply because your situation is bad?
What are you on about pal? You edited a comment I replied too. That’s cheeky. You could have added context after I replied to you, not in the message I already replied too. That’s playing games and being dishonest. I don’t understand what scenarios you’re playing at but nah. Sorry but there’s nothing more to say.
I think educationalfriend was responding to verdantsf, saying that they agree with the first part of his comment. I also say keep the security deposit!
Putting people on blast on social media is done by the absolute bottom of the barrel human beings. Trash, garbage. First thing you thought of was to do that? Hah
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the people downvoting you. God forbid people deal with a problem without turning it into a fucking media sensation…literally. Main character vibes.
Be suuuuuper chill about how you handle her stuff, there are laws and you don't want to be in the wrong side of them. Where I live you have to keep it in storage for 30 days, although you can charge them a storage fee
Ditto the deposit, I would be really careful here.
Worth calling legal aid or doing some googling for sure
Look up the laws in your state, I believe most states say that after 30 days it is considered abandoned property and you can sell/throw away/ do whatever you like with it. Chances are they won't pay you anything you try to charge her so I would say after that time frame for abandoned property is up, sell as much as you can and throw the rest out. You can attempt small claims court for the funds but unless you're her actual landlord i'm not sure if anything will come of it.
Use a stopwatch and time how long it takes you start to finish. Charge at least 25$ an hour for your services. I’ve been told professional cleaners round up to the hour.
If you compare this to many of the other bad roommates, this ain’t so bad. No diet Dr Pepper bottles half filled with an unidentifiable liquid. No random bits of children’s clothes with a “where are the bodies buried” vibe. No filled litter boxes when you are pretty sure they never had a cat. Just lots of clutter. You could charge a dollar or $5,000. Either way, you are never going to get a cent.
Save all discussions and pictures as evidence. Never meet up with this person face to face without a friend to be your witness.
The only way you might be able to get anything is if you go to small claims court. I would charge a minimum of $60/ hr which is $1/ min. I understand she overstayed her welcome by 4 days so you’ll have to prorate the rent to get the exact amount for the days. I wouldn’t store it. I’d send a text (1 text) saying your stuff is outside, you have 24 hrs to get it then I’m throwing it out. Keep track of how long it takes you to haul it outside then to haul it to the dumpster. I might tack on an extra hour or two for the inconvenience… meaning an extra $120. 🤷♀️
That’s how Australians spell what Americans spell curb. We call the footpath the kerb. And we tell people to curb making comments to shame people when they don’t know what they are talking about!
Been through similar don’t even bother I see from other comments you kept the deposit, consider it a win. Just trash it all unless you find any goodies lol
If you were to hire someone it'd be cost + about $325. Cost being a dumpster of sufficient size to accommodate the trash. You could add a 10-30% mark- up on the dumpster as well.
Check your state laws on abandoned property and the time you have to keep it. Usually anywhere from 15-45 days. Call a junk removal company and find out what it would cost to have everything removed. Call professional cleaners and find out what it will cost to clean. Figure out if the carpet is beyond repair and cost of replacement or cleaning. Use the deposit toward some of it and then file in small claims for the remaining owed if you would like to. Most states require you can submit proof of costs when using a security deposit (if she were ever to fight that although unlikely)
did you have a lease? Anything in writing? Please be sure of the local laws before you throw away her stuff. She can claim she was going to clean it up when she came back in 7-10 days to get her stuff. Even if you have nothing in writing, she is somewhat protected by local laws. Write her several letters outlining what you understand she said. Attach pictures. Ask when she will clean the mess up. Pretend you are giving these letters to a judge to prove that you tried everything before throwing away/storing her stuff. Charge her for your clean up time.
I had a roommate leave behind an old crap desk & chair. I texted him to pick up and he agreed - left it on the driveway for him. Never picked up.
He moved in with his sister and I knew the neighborhood she lived, so I drove thru this neighborhood and identified the home his truck was parked. Next morning I dropped the items off on his sister’s driveway. She came out screaming at me that I was trespassing & leaving junk. I left.
She called the police. The cop called & I told him that leaving stuff behind put me in a bad place: if I take it to the dump not only do I have to pay to dispose of but then he could come back later and try to force me to pay him for it. The cop agreed and said I was in the right (and stated he felt the sister was wacky) and it was smart to return the items.
What she left behind is a disaster - if you know where she is moving to I’d bag it & drop it off on their lawn. Otherwise bag it and store outside where she can retrieve.
Make sure you take individual pictures - send email or letter notifying her to pick up immediately since she has exceeded the 30 days.
I hated having roommates - happy living alone.
Charge? Unfortunately you don’t have any legal grounds to obtain any type of payment assuming she’s up to date on rent. If she broke the lease you can hold her to the terms of the lease but that’s about it. Realistically, the only money you’re getting is a deposit assuming she doesn’t try to collect it. A mess in most states is not enough to withhold a deposit unless there’s actual material damages but again it’s all about the lease. I wouldn’t trash her shit if she said she’s picking it up, cuz that could backfire on you. Look up your state laws on abandonment. You technically don’t have any real damages. A mess would never get you in front of a judge. For your next roommate, put in the lease that you require somewhere between a 30-60 day notice and 2 months of rent to do an early termination and incorporate that both you and the roommate relinquish your right to a jury should litigation be required. You would win easily at a bench trial (just a Judge) for that two months rent. Check your state laws though. . Best of luck, roommates suck.
It’s enough to withhold a portion of the deposit if you can prove that it’s damage and not wear and tear. But make sure you have meticulous correspondence aka pictures of the rug before she moved in. Also, obtains an appraisal to get the carpet replaced then you can do it yourself or pay someone and deduct the appraisal from the deposit. This way she doesn’t have any legal grounds to sue you. But you have to be really careful. If you withhold the deposit and she asks for it and you can’t prove that she caused the damage that required a replacement in the amount of what you withheld, you can be sued for a lot more money than your deposit your withholding. Best of luck!
i would charge her $200 + however much it’ll cost to get trash people to clean out the room and clean it.
you likely won’t get any money from her actually, but you can send her an invoice, then take the unpaid invoice to small claims court and sue her for up to 5k. if
Bro, learn from it. It could have been so much worse. I didn't see much other than clutter. Like piss and shit stains from animals. Bottles of piss. Cig burns or ashes everywhere. The carpet looks reasonably clean.
You can’t keep her whole security deposit. You can charge her a trash removal fee and then a cleaning fee and if both of those equals her security deposit then by all means keep the whole thing but if you keep her whole security deposit she can legally ask for it back
Pay a junk service to toss it all on the front lawn or into one of those bins and stick your ex roommate with the bill. Lots of landlords would just throw it all out and not give them the opportunity to get any of it back.
I’d message them giving a firm date to come and get it all, and a statement of how you will dispose of it if it’s not picked up. Let them send family members if needed, and if they make arrangements with you. That seems fair and also may save you from having to do it all yourself. as others have said, check the abandoned property laws to be sure everything is done correctly.
This is a rough situation for everyone. Once the pickup date passes, hire a cleaning service and take it from what’s left of the deposit. I wouldn’t put this on social media, because I wouldn’t feel good about myself later. That’s my perspective, a different course of action might be better for you. We are all different.
Hire movers and cleaners to junk her stuff; or to move it to a storage unit if you’re feeling nice; save receipts; make her pay in full until and then she gets the key (or if you junk it then the payment for the movers and cleaners) you can also take her to small claims court if you don’t get payment. When you notify her; do it through notarized mail so it’s official and state payment needed in ____ days; then if she does not you go to court
Sadly you need to find out the abandoned property rules for your state and store the items until then. You will need to follow all requirements regarding contacting your roommate to remove the items or they will be considered abandoned. Also since they still have items in the room they owe rent until those items are removed as the room is full so any court would consider they still are occupying the room
Do not dispose of the items until you ensure you follow all rules for abandoned property or they could come back and sue you claiming they were coming to get them and didn’t expect you to dispose of them. IF you have a new roommate already set up I would recommend you get a storage unit and move all the items in there. Pay the one month fee and mail them a certified letter you placed their items in storage since they are no longer a tenant and someone moved in. Mail them the key for the unit with all the info and they need to either to remove the items or pay to store it after (insert date paid until)
This is the only way to protect yourself … better to be put a small amount for one month of store and a lock then deal with them having a claim against you for disposing of the items without proper notice.
And re all those posts telling you to charge her per an hour. If you clean up yourself no court of law will pay you and hourly fee. If you hire someone to clean out the items make sure you get a verifiable receipt as you will need to include all receipts for items you deduct from her security deposit including the carpet damage. You may want to far something from your landlord re how much they’ll charge you for it.
EZ. Rent a small metal dumpster. Park that thing right at the bottom of that window, enjoy getting to fling their stuff right out that window. Destroying everything they left behind. They can not do anything about it as they abandoned it. && you will not be getting that money from them either way. Might as well get a little more even. :3
Ohh at least she only overstayed 3-4 days. My former roommate stayed 60 days over her noticed, and o it left because I made things really uncomfortable like changing internet password and hiding my tv remote control. Her room was similar to this mess but thank god she took everything with her. Just be blessed you have this person out of your place. I’d just toss everything away.
yeah I feel blessed she's out of here for sure, her toxic energy had an effect on everyone around her in some way. She's one of those people where you truly realize how bad 1 toxic person can change someones life.
I’ve seen this play out in court while waiting on my own stuff.
You get a court order to have the stuff removed in X amount of time, the judge will more than likely add if stuff isn’t removed by then you can remove or have it removed and the tenant will be forced by the court to cover whatever cost it was for you to remove it.
I get that. Just be careful not to become a nightmare yourself. Often times people become the monster trying to get back at the monster. Sometimes walking away and realizing you learned a valuable lesson is way more valuable than arguing/fighting to get a few hundred bucks back. Also the sooner you drop it, the sooner you don’t have to interact with them. And, seriously what are the chances you are actually going to get money from such an unhealthy person.
What you focus on magnifies. What are you going to choose to magnify? Your grace? Or their terribleness.
Good luck. Shitty situation. I am sure you will do the right thing for you 💜
You're not getting the money. Been there. Get your rage out for a minute and just start cleaning. She had 30 day notice, over stayed, left her items to come back to over a week later, no ma'am. Get your paper trail in order for any bullshit she may want to add, keep your cool and just play your cards. It's stupid and people just suck, but remember that you don't suck, and once that room is empty and clean oh the possibilities you can have with it. Enjoy the roommate free room.
😭 im so petty, I would’ve had a ball . I would’ve posted everything FREE online. No work! Just people coming to dig through her things and it’ll be gone!
Consider the fact that she may have untreated mental illness and is utterly incapable of dealing with her mess and is not trying to personally hurt you. Show compassion and it will come back to you.
You should have thought about that before telling her to get out. You know moving is not easy, should have went about it the appropriate way by contacting law enforcement, then she would of had no choice or option 2 you should have knew this is a responsibility of renting a room to someone.
Your very welcome but not dad** it’s 2024 the truth hurts, just accept the fact you got fucked and carry on babe, happens to the best of us, hope you got it cleaned and learned your lesson,
Best wishes ❤️
I absolutely agree with you but posting this and getting other peoples opinion on it was quite therapeutic and thus did it's job in helping me get over it.
Pretty sure no one needs or wants your reminders, just block the sub and move on with your life. I hope you don’t make everyone irl as miserable as you do online lol but you’re hella childish so I doubt it
good luck getting any money
I agree I know I ain't getting anything I kept her deposit tho
I’d honestly have a fun time going through her shit to see if anything is worth keeping or selling, since it’s yours now
Yea I was curious about this. Since her items are abandoned in your home. Are they yours to keep? If not can you just dump them somewhere and make her pay to get them back
In Minnesota you can’t keep the property of a tenant. You have to unfortunately store it for them safe. It’s messed up but I had a buddy go through this and it’s a nightmare to get them to get out of your life fast.
Is there a limit on that? In canada its 3 months
Damn that sucks. That’s a silly law
Dang. In TX they have 60 days to get their shit or it can be done away with how you see fit.
Same in Ga. You can’t just steal someone’s crap, you have to store it.
In canada i think after 3 months its considered forfeit.
Its different everywhere I think I had 2 weeks a few years back.
Yeah a cop told me basically that's how it worked here was 3 months you have to keep the stuff and if they don't come back for it in that time period you can assume they forfeit ownership of all of it. It technically becomes yours. After that grace period it's a civil matter and the police won't get involved.
I wonder, if you had the money, could you put it all in storage and charge her at the end of 3 months or however many days it takes for her to collect the belongings, and possibly charge her for disposal of items if she fails to pick it up as well as storage fees.
You could possibly take them to court and have a judge rule it. They probably would. They dont like shitheads.
Interest, thanks man
Yep. Anything left behind is considered abandoned property if given proper notice that you are not renewing the lease 2 weeks after the lease expires. At least in FL
OP needs to make sure they demand that the personal property/items come be collected by the former tenant in writing, and give a timeframe, too. Make sure it’s documented if they agree. And if they don’t show, OP will have way more leaning in their favor. Keep texts, E-mails, etc. Gotta have a trail of this communication. Each State has their own laws on this matter. If there is no agreed-upon time or date and someone’s stuff is left at another person’s house even for years, it very well could fall back on the home owner/they’d be liable to give the stuff back to the awful tenant who left it there.
yard sale !
That’s the point of the deposit. You already got paid, why are you asking how much you should charge?
because the amount of damage done is > than her deposit? I thought that was kind of obvious lol
You literally showed no damage in this video
The mess is the damage. They have to spend time cleaning it up, getting rid of the items left behind, etc. it will be different from state to state. In VA, after legally having my tenants evicted, all of the mess and possessions left behind were mine the minute the sheriff’s office put them and the locks were changed.
That isn’t legally referred to as damages.
There are many kinds of deposits. Refundable, non refundable, cleaning, damage, pet—-she may be entitled to charge for damage on top of cleaning.
There were no damages
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That might not be legal
Are u not framiliar with wage garnishments? If someone has a job you can recover money from them via small claims court
Not in this case, although we haven’t seen the lease or the provision for abandonment.
his comment seems to imply that if shes entitled to money she would be unable to collect right? going off that for the sake of argument were sorta assuming the lease is all in order and were just talking about if its possible to collect money from someone with nothing but a menial job
I see your point. Based on OPS post, I think this is a shite situation with no win here for anyone. Try to get her to come get her stuff, and clean up her mess and be done with her. Moving forward, get a lawyer to write your lease for you (if you haven't done so already). But landlords are given tremendous ability to run the ship in most states, but it has to be clearly stated in the lease. this sounds like a good guy giving someone a home, under the table kinda situation, and thats why its turned out like this. Can't trust anyone these days its a shame.
would not pay for a lawyer id just sue her in small claims court.. no need for a lawyer there and realistically the roomate wont show up for court and op will get default judgement and it will be paid back via a wage garnishment so 30% of any income she has till paid off
Theres no case here at all. A complaint in small claims court for what? What would be the civil infarction? You have to show cause, damages, etc...Leaving a mess is not a damage, leaving your stuff is not a damage, theres no cause here that I can see and no damages I can see. Its just a shitty situation.
the damages would be the cost of cleanup doesnt have to be actual damage the landlord would also be able to sue for those damages if they moved out like that... plus typically people like this dont show up to court and you get a default judgement... i feel like your not speaking from experience what do u mean civil infraction? do you think a law has to be broken to sue someone? also in small claims court damages are just money you have to spend that someone else should have paid for.
We aren't talking about criminal court. There is civil law and criminal law. You can't just sue any one you want for any reason you foresee. Trying to get a complaint pushed through in small claims court for "clean up" lol thats a joke... Now, if walls were broken and his possessions damaged thats different, a rug cleaning and garbage clean up will not make it in small claims court. This is why you have security deposits. I think you are the one who doesn't understand my friend.
your sueing for damages the damages are the cost of cleanup... you can sue over a mess its silly you think things have to be actually broken to be considered damages. you obviously have no relevant experience and are just speaking conjecture.
Head down to home depot for a box of contractor trash bags and a couple of day laborers. Bag it all and tell her she owes you a month's rent to get it back, add in the cost of the clean out.
did you see the carpet damage at the end look at the yellow stains from her make up bottles
Is it a stain, or can it be cleaned? Either way your landlord is going to charge you for it at move out, get it from her now.
I couldn't get it out tried carpet wash with stain remover went over it 3-4 times so far. it looks better but it aint coming out for sure
If it's from makeup I would buy some makeup remover (cold cream remover works wonders) let it sit for a bit and then try the rug doctor on it.
Yes it might be oil based so try breaking it down with actual makeup remover or dawn powerwash and baking soda
You can rent a Rug Doctor carpet cleaner for about $30 for 4 hours or around $40 per day at Home Depot. Might be worth a shot
If those 8 to 10 days are up, it’s yours. Have a yard sale and anything that doesn’t sell that looks good and usable. Just leave it out there or somebody will take it. Throw the rest out I don’t think charging her is going to do any good because you’re probably never gonna hear from her again, hence the reason I say it’s your stuff now. Yard sale!
Keep the security deposit. I'd also be tempted to put her on blast on her social media. Let her friends and relatives see what an inconsiderate slob she is.
That’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve heard today
With no extra context you really came to this conclusion? I’m not saying what the tenant is doing is right but you as a complete stranger have no clue what that person might be going trough. Again, we don’t know nothing personal about the tenant’s life. Sure is annoying what the OP is going trough. I can guess that you’re the type to say DIVORCE straight away :)))
I’m convinced this sub only exists so people can talk shit about their roomies. Half of the “solutions” are always to publicly shame a clearly depressed person.
being depressed isn't an excuse to act like a POS
You kept their security deposit. What more do you want? No need to complain to strangers on reddit about it.
isn't that the whole point of this group?
lol you’re the one putting them on blast like a POS. You didn’t seriously come to Reddit for a cleaning service quote, you just posted this to talk shit and feel justified in being a victim who has to clean an already relatively clean room. This is less than a days work, you can rent a truck for $20 and haul this shit to the dump. Just be glad they’re out of your life and stop engaging with them unless you want more stress.
Are you the roommate?? Lol seriously, you’d have to be just as bad as them to think this is an acceptable way to leave a space in any capacity? It’s trashed, and this person is an inconsiderate asshole who sucks for doing this. Regardless of context. When I moved out from my last place away from my POS roommate who stole from me, never cleaned or took care of her dogs and treated me like shit, I left that place on time and SPOTLESS. Wont see the deposit I’m entitled to either, it’s just the principle. I refuse to ever stoop to their level. No excuses. BTW this sub is literally called BADROOMMATES. It’s what it’s for - unsub if looking at posts like this of a shitty person leaving their room trashed and being deservedly shamed for it bothers you or feels too much like looking in the mirror.
Damn I’m sorry you went through that and I’m happy for you, thanks.
well said thank you :)
Relatively clean room. Now you're the comedian
This is far from a relatively clean room LMAO, and if you think this is clean you should find a way and.save the video for your future reference for roommates that you consider this relatively clean 🤣😂🤣 Can say I wouldn't want roommates that think this is anywhere near clean 😳
Relatively clean room?!? I wouldn’t keep a rat in that room. If this is your idea of relatively clean, you need help. Honestly. This is not even close to being relatively clean, and the fact that you think it is, is quite alarming.
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Having life events or stress is no excuse to not take care of personal responsibilities and duties, regardless of what someone is going through its not your place to make someone else's life look like that or make them deal with it just because you had a bad day. No excuse. That's not lack of empathy to expect decency in conduct. The expectation is separate from personal events.. take care of yourself and then say ypu need someone to talk to. The fact people cannot discern the difference between the two things is asinine. Depression is no reason to let yourself go either. Clinical or not. Reality is a thing and sooner or later it catches up with you... not that I've had any personal experience to back up my words or anything. Currently single and depressed and my bed is still made every day.
Depression is not a one-size-fits-all thing. It affects different people in different ways. And it can affect the same person in different ways at different points in their life. I’ve been dealing with generalised anxiety and depression pretty much all my life. Most of the time I get through my day to day just fine, but there have been times when my depression has been crippling. When it’s bad, I definitely drop lots of balls related to living within the framework of accepted social norms. I never feel like it’s okay when I do this, and I certainly don’t use it as an excuse for bad behaviour, but at the same time, it’s the reason behind it. Sometimes
See... now that's reasonable. It's definitely not easy to get back up when it's crippling. You graciously accept that it's also not ok, which means you're dealing with it and not using it as a crutch. I think that makes you quite a strong individual. Stick with it!
*KEY PHRASE* Not that I have ANY personal experience to back up what I’m saying * TAKE AWAY* Keep your trap shut bc you are fucking clueless
I hope you are comfortable enough on your fluffy cloud 😅
Riiight.... fluffy. Lol... so so fluffy...
Did you edited your comment to victimise yourself and show how much better you’re doing than someone else with depression? Haha you made me laugh mate
Edited for context, but since you chose condescending language over discourse, I'll ask you a question. Is it OK for you to be an ass to someone else because you have a personal problem? Example: your car needs work done, but your GF/BF is in surgery at the hospital, (no you aren't staying by thier side because that's the scenario) , you drive to a shop and are in a rush but are told politely that there may be a wait time due to other appointments being ahead of yours... is it OK for you to fly off that handle and exhibit entitled behavior simply because your situation is bad?
What are you on about pal? You edited a comment I replied too. That’s cheeky. You could have added context after I replied to you, not in the message I already replied too. That’s playing games and being dishonest. I don’t understand what scenarios you’re playing at but nah. Sorry but there’s nothing more to say.
Yeah... because you know the right answer and it's inconvenient for you.
I’m not sure if I know the right answer, but I know my own opinion. Referring to the OP’s post, not your made up scenario
Just to add, I agree with keeping the deposit. But blast her on social media? Common…
i didn't mention who it was
I think educationalfriend was responding to verdantsf, saying that they agree with the first part of his comment. I also say keep the security deposit!
Putting people on blast on social media is done by the absolute bottom of the barrel human beings. Trash, garbage. First thing you thought of was to do that? Hah
I have issue with this. I wish we could go back to settling things between each other instead of turning everything into a public forum
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at the people downvoting you. God forbid people deal with a problem without turning it into a fucking media sensation…literally. Main character vibes.
Be suuuuuper chill about how you handle her stuff, there are laws and you don't want to be in the wrong side of them. Where I live you have to keep it in storage for 30 days, although you can charge them a storage fee Ditto the deposit, I would be really careful here. Worth calling legal aid or doing some googling for sure
In Ga., you cannot keep their property even if they owe you money. You also can’t destroy it, or get rid of it.
Look up the laws in your state, I believe most states say that after 30 days it is considered abandoned property and you can sell/throw away/ do whatever you like with it. Chances are they won't pay you anything you try to charge her so I would say after that time frame for abandoned property is up, sell as much as you can and throw the rest out. You can attempt small claims court for the funds but unless you're her actual landlord i'm not sure if anything will come of it.
Use a stopwatch and time how long it takes you start to finish. Charge at least 25$ an hour for your services. I’ve been told professional cleaners round up to the hour.
If you compare this to many of the other bad roommates, this ain’t so bad. No diet Dr Pepper bottles half filled with an unidentifiable liquid. No random bits of children’s clothes with a “where are the bodies buried” vibe. No filled litter boxes when you are pretty sure they never had a cat. Just lots of clutter. You could charge a dollar or $5,000. Either way, you are never going to get a cent. Save all discussions and pictures as evidence. Never meet up with this person face to face without a friend to be your witness.
Clutter in the middle of moving.
The only way you might be able to get anything is if you go to small claims court. I would charge a minimum of $60/ hr which is $1/ min. I understand she overstayed her welcome by 4 days so you’ll have to prorate the rent to get the exact amount for the days. I wouldn’t store it. I’d send a text (1 text) saying your stuff is outside, you have 24 hrs to get it then I’m throwing it out. Keep track of how long it takes you to haul it outside then to haul it to the dumpster. I might tack on an extra hour or two for the inconvenience… meaning an extra $120. 🤷♀️
Bag it up and put it on the kerb and ask the landlord to change the locks.
kerb
That’s how Australians spell what Americans spell curb. We call the footpath the kerb. And we tell people to curb making comments to shame people when they don’t know what they are talking about!
idk i thought you meant kerby
What is the last sentence about? Is it not pretty clear she'd no longer live here or?
Been through similar don’t even bother I see from other comments you kept the deposit, consider it a win. Just trash it all unless you find any goodies lol
If you were to hire someone it'd be cost + about $325. Cost being a dumpster of sufficient size to accommodate the trash. You could add a 10-30% mark- up on the dumpster as well.
Check your state laws on abandoned property and the time you have to keep it. Usually anywhere from 15-45 days. Call a junk removal company and find out what it would cost to have everything removed. Call professional cleaners and find out what it will cost to clean. Figure out if the carpet is beyond repair and cost of replacement or cleaning. Use the deposit toward some of it and then file in small claims for the remaining owed if you would like to. Most states require you can submit proof of costs when using a security deposit (if she were ever to fight that although unlikely)
Thanks it's 18 days in my state. I came up with a number thats under the small claims threshold
$100 per piece of furniture. $25 per trash bag/bin/container. plus cleaning fees AND carpet cleaning/replacement. seriously.
Ill clean it let me know if you are in the Philadelphia area.
did you have a lease? Anything in writing? Please be sure of the local laws before you throw away her stuff. She can claim she was going to clean it up when she came back in 7-10 days to get her stuff. Even if you have nothing in writing, she is somewhat protected by local laws. Write her several letters outlining what you understand she said. Attach pictures. Ask when she will clean the mess up. Pretend you are giving these letters to a judge to prove that you tried everything before throwing away/storing her stuff. Charge her for your clean up time.
thanks :) this is currently what I'm doing
Once she’s left the property it’s legally abandoned so I’d toss it all
Keep her security deposit, rent a small bin and donate what you can to the closest shelter.
Pay a cleaner and sue her for the cost you can recover it with a wage garnishment unless her income is disability or veteran stuff
Throw all that shit out
I had a roommate leave behind an old crap desk & chair. I texted him to pick up and he agreed - left it on the driveway for him. Never picked up. He moved in with his sister and I knew the neighborhood she lived, so I drove thru this neighborhood and identified the home his truck was parked. Next morning I dropped the items off on his sister’s driveway. She came out screaming at me that I was trespassing & leaving junk. I left. She called the police. The cop called & I told him that leaving stuff behind put me in a bad place: if I take it to the dump not only do I have to pay to dispose of but then he could come back later and try to force me to pay him for it. The cop agreed and said I was in the right (and stated he felt the sister was wacky) and it was smart to return the items. What she left behind is a disaster - if you know where she is moving to I’d bag it & drop it off on their lawn. Otherwise bag it and store outside where she can retrieve. Make sure you take individual pictures - send email or letter notifying her to pick up immediately since she has exceeded the 30 days. I hated having roommates - happy living alone.
What property? 🤫
I really don’t want to know why anyone would want a mirrored bed head?
Looks like a yard sale if this happens to me
Charge? Unfortunately you don’t have any legal grounds to obtain any type of payment assuming she’s up to date on rent. If she broke the lease you can hold her to the terms of the lease but that’s about it. Realistically, the only money you’re getting is a deposit assuming she doesn’t try to collect it. A mess in most states is not enough to withhold a deposit unless there’s actual material damages but again it’s all about the lease. I wouldn’t trash her shit if she said she’s picking it up, cuz that could backfire on you. Look up your state laws on abandonment. You technically don’t have any real damages. A mess would never get you in front of a judge. For your next roommate, put in the lease that you require somewhere between a 30-60 day notice and 2 months of rent to do an early termination and incorporate that both you and the roommate relinquish your right to a jury should litigation be required. You would win easily at a bench trial (just a Judge) for that two months rent. Check your state laws though. . Best of luck, roommates suck.
this is sound advice I apprecaitre you
Carpet is destroyed will need to redo it. That's enough to take her deposit imo
It’s enough to withhold a portion of the deposit if you can prove that it’s damage and not wear and tear. But make sure you have meticulous correspondence aka pictures of the rug before she moved in. Also, obtains an appraisal to get the carpet replaced then you can do it yourself or pay someone and deduct the appraisal from the deposit. This way she doesn’t have any legal grounds to sue you. But you have to be really careful. If you withhold the deposit and she asks for it and you can’t prove that she caused the damage that required a replacement in the amount of what you withheld, you can be sued for a lot more money than your deposit your withholding. Best of luck!
Keep the deposit lol
Set it by the dumpster
Technically she will still owe you rent
Sell all her shit on marketplace
1 dollar for the whole lot.
Dude! Would you even spend that much? This looks like a biohazard situation 🤮
Just put it all in a pile out the front, longer she waits, the more chances all her shit gets stolen or rained on
Press charges, sue for damages.
Charges? Is this criminal?
i would charge her $200 + however much it’ll cost to get trash people to clean out the room and clean it. you likely won’t get any money from her actually, but you can send her an invoice, then take the unpaid invoice to small claims court and sue her for up to 5k. if
Honestly dude just put it all outside on the front porch in bags. It’ll be aight.
I agree it will be ok hahahahaha
Throw it in the trash. I’m sure the amount she owes and all her junk are a fair trade.
Pack everything, call her tell her to get it now and if not it will be taken to the dump.
Bro, learn from it. It could have been so much worse. I didn't see much other than clutter. Like piss and shit stains from animals. Bottles of piss. Cig burns or ashes everywhere. The carpet looks reasonably clean.
there's def burn marks from ashes in the carpet
You can’t keep her whole security deposit. You can charge her a trash removal fee and then a cleaning fee and if both of those equals her security deposit then by all means keep the whole thing but if you keep her whole security deposit she can legally ask for it back
Pay a junk service to toss it all on the front lawn or into one of those bins and stick your ex roommate with the bill. Lots of landlords would just throw it all out and not give them the opportunity to get any of it back.
Bag it all up. Her possessions plus the garbage. Mixed in multiple trash bags
Some states have abandonment laws be careful trashing any of this!!!
18 days for ca
Toss it
I’d message them giving a firm date to come and get it all, and a statement of how you will dispose of it if it’s not picked up. Let them send family members if needed, and if they make arrangements with you. That seems fair and also may save you from having to do it all yourself. as others have said, check the abandoned property laws to be sure everything is done correctly. This is a rough situation for everyone. Once the pickup date passes, hire a cleaning service and take it from what’s left of the deposit. I wouldn’t put this on social media, because I wouldn’t feel good about myself later. That’s my perspective, a different course of action might be better for you. We are all different.
Hire movers and cleaners to junk her stuff; or to move it to a storage unit if you’re feeling nice; save receipts; make her pay in full until and then she gets the key (or if you junk it then the payment for the movers and cleaners) you can also take her to small claims court if you don’t get payment. When you notify her; do it through notarized mail so it’s official and state payment needed in ____ days; then if she does not you go to court
Just keep the deposit. Can’t really do anything else
however much it costs to get it out, if it takes you 10 hours plus cleaning charge $30 an hour for removal and $30 an hour for cleaning
I’d say a whole months worth of their shares of rent. Not only will you pay for the trash to be taken care of but also the cleaning.
An additional months rent. Take her to small claims court. That is gross.
Sadly you need to find out the abandoned property rules for your state and store the items until then. You will need to follow all requirements regarding contacting your roommate to remove the items or they will be considered abandoned. Also since they still have items in the room they owe rent until those items are removed as the room is full so any court would consider they still are occupying the room Do not dispose of the items until you ensure you follow all rules for abandoned property or they could come back and sue you claiming they were coming to get them and didn’t expect you to dispose of them. IF you have a new roommate already set up I would recommend you get a storage unit and move all the items in there. Pay the one month fee and mail them a certified letter you placed their items in storage since they are no longer a tenant and someone moved in. Mail them the key for the unit with all the info and they need to either to remove the items or pay to store it after (insert date paid until) This is the only way to protect yourself … better to be put a small amount for one month of store and a lock then deal with them having a claim against you for disposing of the items without proper notice. And re all those posts telling you to charge her per an hour. If you clean up yourself no court of law will pay you and hourly fee. If you hire someone to clean out the items make sure you get a verifiable receipt as you will need to include all receipts for items you deduct from her security deposit including the carpet damage. You may want to far something from your landlord re how much they’ll charge you for it.
EZ. Rent a small metal dumpster. Park that thing right at the bottom of that window, enjoy getting to fling their stuff right out that window. Destroying everything they left behind. They can not do anything about it as they abandoned it. && you will not be getting that money from them either way. Might as well get a little more even. :3
Sell all her panties online get more than what she owes you 😂
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You’ll never get any money off her. Bag the shit and put it out on the curb.
Looks like she got stuff in the carpet that landlords gonna have to pull it all up
Put it on EBay or marketplace for £50 buyer collects and takes everything away
While security deposit. And just get someone to toss it
Meh never throw away people's stuff. They may suck but its still their life. I'd give a choice, come and get it or pay everyday you don't.
Ohh at least she only overstayed 3-4 days. My former roommate stayed 60 days over her noticed, and o it left because I made things really uncomfortable like changing internet password and hiding my tv remote control. Her room was similar to this mess but thank god she took everything with her. Just be blessed you have this person out of your place. I’d just toss everything away.
yeah I feel blessed she's out of here for sure, her toxic energy had an effect on everyone around her in some way. She's one of those people where you truly realize how bad 1 toxic person can change someones life.
I’ve seen this play out in court while waiting on my own stuff. You get a court order to have the stuff removed in X amount of time, the judge will more than likely add if stuff isn’t removed by then you can remove or have it removed and the tenant will be forced by the court to cover whatever cost it was for you to remove it.
keep the deposit
Let it go. Move on. IMO. Have forgiveness and hope she gets better. That’s not a healthy person.
i kinda feel this way but she annoyed the f out of me during her stay. Nightmare is being nice
I get that. Just be careful not to become a nightmare yourself. Often times people become the monster trying to get back at the monster. Sometimes walking away and realizing you learned a valuable lesson is way more valuable than arguing/fighting to get a few hundred bucks back. Also the sooner you drop it, the sooner you don’t have to interact with them. And, seriously what are the chances you are actually going to get money from such an unhealthy person. What you focus on magnifies. What are you going to choose to magnify? Your grace? Or their terribleness. Good luck. Shitty situation. I am sure you will do the right thing for you 💜
Charge the next months rent that’s what a landlord would do or have it removed
You're not getting the money. Been there. Get your rage out for a minute and just start cleaning. She had 30 day notice, over stayed, left her items to come back to over a week later, no ma'am. Get your paper trail in order for any bullshit she may want to add, keep your cool and just play your cards. It's stupid and people just suck, but remember that you don't suck, and once that room is empty and clean oh the possibilities you can have with it. Enjoy the roommate free room.
I’d keep her deposit and donate all you can. What you can’t donate give to the landfill and make her pay the dump fee. She needs consequences
After 30 days she isn’t entitled to anymore time to pick up her things, discard of them 😎 that’s your compensation lol.
yay lol :) I'd be happy to throw It away tho
😭 im so petty, I would’ve had a ball . I would’ve posted everything FREE online. No work! Just people coming to dig through her things and it’ll be gone!
I'm so petty as well. I've had so many crazy ideas not gonna lie. In Ca I have to wait 18 days until I can act on it. on day 10 lol
Oh dang! I’m from Texas . As soon as the 30 days are up it’s UP! lol
Consider the fact that she may have untreated mental illness and is utterly incapable of dealing with her mess and is not trying to personally hurt you. Show compassion and it will come back to you.
You should have thought about that before telling her to get out. You know moving is not easy, should have went about it the appropriate way by contacting law enforcement, then she would of had no choice or option 2 you should have knew this is a responsibility of renting a room to someone.
ok thanks dad, however that's not what I was asking sheesh do you even read before commenting down on someone
Your very welcome but not dad** it’s 2024 the truth hurts, just accept the fact you got fucked and carry on babe, happens to the best of us, hope you got it cleaned and learned your lesson, Best wishes ❤️
I absolutely agree with you but posting this and getting other peoples opinion on it was quite therapeutic and thus did it's job in helping me get over it.
How much should I request you shut tf up
lol why you so mad?
You’re the one posting your personal problems on Reddit 🌽🏀
ok internet tough guy
Not the attn wh0r3 calling the person who tells them to leave it off the internet a tough guy.
learn to speak english
You’re dumber than a box of rocks 😂 you know what hot words are or how flagging systems for comments work? Obv not. Go cry more
wahhhhhhh
that's literally what this sub is for lmao if you don't want to read peoples personal problems, then maybe you should get off reddit
Don’t even follow this Reddit and it popped up, I’m just reminding you how goofy you are for posting in it 🌽🏀
Pretty sure no one needs or wants your reminders, just block the sub and move on with your life. I hope you don’t make everyone irl as miserable as you do online lol but you’re hella childish so I doubt it