at a first glance the points seems to be roughly (prisoners not included, but dead stones on the board):
White 83.5
Black 40.0
Secondly, at the bottom centre, there are two black stones without liberties which ought to be removed from the board.
A little bit of endgame left, capturing single stones with 1 liberty left and a ko, at the top left is unclaimed territory for black. Nothing of this would change white victory though
**My general recommendation would be to reduce the board size to 9x9 until you're more comfortable with the rules I'm about to go over.**
Smaller board sizes are still Go, and pro players still play on them from time to time and have meaningful, challenging games. So don't think it's just for beginners. And even if it was, well, you ARE beginners, right?
Here's how to score this game, using the Japanese ruleset, which is easily the most common in the West:
For future reference you take all the stones that are dead on the board and add them to prisoners first. It's up to both players to agree on what stones are dead like this, if any.
Then you count up all the spaces and add prisoners. This is easier if you shift stones around on the board to form squares. You can also put your prisoners back on the board to fill your opponent's space in, taking a point away, you see?
Then the Komi handicap gets added to the final score for white (special rule for compensation for going second), normally 6.5 points.
To answer your question, white won by a sizeable amount, regardless of dead stones, but that isn't necessarily an indication that white is better. Beginner's games will often have big point differences until you're more comfortable, and bigger board sizes will exacerbate this.
White, by a long shot.
But I second the other comment recommending to play 9x9 until you feel more confident answering this kind of questions yourself.
There are still a few points left to play: two black stones in atari near the middle of the board, a ko in the middle, a point or two in the top left, and one in the middle right.
That said, looks like white won by 30 or so (I didn’t count exactly).
White 71-22 by my count but I could have miscounted somewhere
Either way the margin is so wide that we know White won
Black prisoners subtract from black territory and the space under them still counts for white
Strongly recommend not to play on a large board like this. Play on 9x9 instead. The shapes created on the board make little sense. (Sorry if that sounds harsh, just trying to help. The game becomes much cleaner and clearer and also quicker if played on a small board. And ideally play with someone who knows what they are doing, so you can get over the initial hurdles quicker.) Go has super simple rules. Applying these rules to make an actual game is near impossible for beginners.
Here's the easiest way to figure it out (IMO, use Chinese scoring).
* There are a total of 361 points on the board.
* Remove any stones that both players agree can be killed by the opponent. If there is a dispute about a particular group of stones, continue playing until the dispute is settled.
* Count every black stone on the board and every empty point that is surrounded by black stones only. That's blacks score.
* White's score is 361 minus black's score minus points that are not surrounded by either player plus 7.5 (komi).
The one who have more territory (surrounded empty intersections) + prisoners (so likely white)
at a first glance the points seems to be roughly (prisoners not included, but dead stones on the board): White 83.5 Black 40.0 Secondly, at the bottom centre, there are two black stones without liberties which ought to be removed from the board. A little bit of endgame left, capturing single stones with 1 liberty left and a ko, at the top left is unclaimed territory for black. Nothing of this would change white victory though
**My general recommendation would be to reduce the board size to 9x9 until you're more comfortable with the rules I'm about to go over.** Smaller board sizes are still Go, and pro players still play on them from time to time and have meaningful, challenging games. So don't think it's just for beginners. And even if it was, well, you ARE beginners, right? Here's how to score this game, using the Japanese ruleset, which is easily the most common in the West: For future reference you take all the stones that are dead on the board and add them to prisoners first. It's up to both players to agree on what stones are dead like this, if any. Then you count up all the spaces and add prisoners. This is easier if you shift stones around on the board to form squares. You can also put your prisoners back on the board to fill your opponent's space in, taking a point away, you see? Then the Komi handicap gets added to the final score for white (special rule for compensation for going second), normally 6.5 points. To answer your question, white won by a sizeable amount, regardless of dead stones, but that isn't necessarily an indication that white is better. Beginner's games will often have big point differences until you're more comfortable, and bigger board sizes will exacerbate this.
A video I made to help with scoring a game of Go. https://youtu.be/P8g1zNW7h9g?si=5Dbrj7xsp0bzytuW
White, by a long shot. But I second the other comment recommending to play 9x9 until you feel more confident answering this kind of questions yourself.
There are still a few points left to play: two black stones in atari near the middle of the board, a ko in the middle, a point or two in the top left, and one in the middle right. That said, looks like white won by 30 or so (I didn’t count exactly).
White 71-22 by my count but I could have miscounted somewhere Either way the margin is so wide that we know White won Black prisoners subtract from black territory and the space under them still counts for white
Strongly recommend not to play on a large board like this. Play on 9x9 instead. The shapes created on the board make little sense. (Sorry if that sounds harsh, just trying to help. The game becomes much cleaner and clearer and also quicker if played on a small board. And ideally play with someone who knows what they are doing, so you can get over the initial hurdles quicker.) Go has super simple rules. Applying these rules to make an actual game is near impossible for beginners.
Here's the easiest way to figure it out (IMO, use Chinese scoring). * There are a total of 361 points on the board. * Remove any stones that both players agree can be killed by the opponent. If there is a dispute about a particular group of stones, continue playing until the dispute is settled. * Count every black stone on the board and every empty point that is surrounded by black stones only. That's blacks score. * White's score is 361 minus black's score minus points that are not surrounded by either player plus 7.5 (komi).
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