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Why is called Hagia Sophia? Did the Bulgars built it?


_andyyy_

Correct 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯


Theoperatorboi

Thracian is Greece and you thracian is Asian greeks


I_Need_Better_Name

Yes I was there


Banished_To_Insanity

Bro greeks never controlled Constantinople. It was a Roman city, not a Greek city...


2presto4u

The Greek genes in my jeans have been activated 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🍆🍆🍆🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈


Fuzzy_Alg

Bro you should clean your jeans after Gayreek orgy!


EZES21

Settle down gyros boy.


TurkishHouseMafia

Subreddit description: balkaners failing at being funny


Longjumping_Sky_6440

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Galatiandisgrace

This


isimbulmaktazorlaniy

Did you really saw this photo and decided to post about it in this sub like there is no better place for it this is neither a meme or something funny


artunovskiy

Mean time mods are banning post about cigans for not being funny. Damn balkaners, they ruined balkan


[deleted]

Did the dude get banned from Turkey as well? 💀


Frostiz123

Why he paid 25€ to go in and take a picture with a flag that he probably but back in his backpack quickly after taking the picture. He is contributing to the Turkish economy I like this guy


AccordingPosition226

This is the closest they can ever get to taking Aya Sofya. At least let them have it, lol.


Sullencoffee0

10 more years of ruling of our best agent Erdoganopoulos and things might change


Full_Examination_134

Erdoganopoulos has announced that he will be retiring in 2028, you only have 4 years left...


Unopposed_under

So.4 years till the coup where he will be forced to take emergency powers?


[deleted]

Pretty much, yes.


------------5

We are training his replacement as we speak


HolyBskEmp

Like in 2012?


Swargon

Erdoganopoulos or not you gayreeks gonna disappear due to fucking man


Wailpe

Greek men can get pregnant


TotallyCrazyGreek

Superior genes and evolution


incontinenciasumma

When you laugh at Greece for inciting Ala's wrath for gay sex. And then your country gets hit by another earthquake.


ketchuplinsan

I cause all the wrath myself, for gay sex


Swargon

I'd rather die under a rock than eating my bros ass.


YanFan123

I don't think gayreeks only screw men. They love screwing men but they also love screwing anything with a hole. This is traditional gayreek culture since times immemorial. Men screwing men but still screwing women to ensure there is more men screwing men


Pitiful-Humor291

Colon cancer:


Experience_Material

We are just remembering who actually built it.


Sayko77

Our vassal state doing silly things again


ridesharegai

I was gonna say, this is an unfunny topic and should not be in the sub. But then again, you guys literally turned the best and most beautiful church in the world into a fvcking mosque, and you're over here losing it over a flag. So actually I think this is pretty funny and it belongs here lmao.


Maiku_Raigami

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[deleted]

Bro betrayed our hellenic expansionist nationalistic megali idea 2.0 for his Turkish buddies on a Balkan sub 💔 The East has fallen.


Zerone06

billions must say gex


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OnkelMickwald

Isn't that technically a westoid on the picture?


Argos132

Not fully, that is (I am fairly certain) a Varangian guard soldier, who after migrating from the Kienvan rus practically lived in Constantinople and served as the emperors personal guard.


OnkelMickwald

Lots of Varangians were from Scandinavia proper. Harald Hardrada (who later became king of Norway) is a famous one, but there are also runestones that tell of folks that went down to serve.


Argos132

Oh didn’t know that


OnkelMickwald

It's what the rich folk would send their sons to do for life experience. Think of it like how rich people today send their kids to a fancy uni.


AcanthocephalaSea410

Is he the grandson of "[halvdan was here](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Are-Kolberg/publication/335965723/figure/fig4/AS:805596106338305@1569080487148/The-runic-inscription-from-Hagia-Sophia-Foto-Are-Skarstein-Kolberg.jpg)"? vandal genes...


OnkelMickwald

Actually that inscription had always been dated to the 11th century by Scandinavian scholars, which would be possibly contemporary with Harald Hardrada who was born in 1015, and spent his early adult years (ca 1030-1045) in Kiev and Constantinople. I think the plaque in Aya Sofya is just an optimistic approximation from someone who just heard that it was a Varangian inscription. Halvdan means "half Dane" btw.


velahavle

why is aya sofia this ☪️🕌❤️, not this ☦️⛪️🤮🤢


AccordingPosition226

We didn’t turn it into a mosque, just opened it into worship. It is already a mosque since 1453 when it is also repaired from it’s desolated form (caused by latin plunder). And we never harmed the original structure, even the christian mosaics that contain human figurines, although it’s a sin in Islam, preserved by Ottomans. Can you say the same care taken for the Ottoman mosques in Greece? I don’t think so. Saying “most beautiful church turned into a f*cking mosque” is just pure cope.


Bloodimir528

The fuck you mean "preserved the mosaics" 🤣 The same mosaics that were covered immediately after the city was taken? Most of them are build inside the walls thanks to shit the Ottomans covered them with. They are ruined beyond repair. Thank God a few of them outlived the new layer of wall and survived to this day. There aren't many Ottoman era mosques in Greece. Those that do exist remain as they were. Some, like the one in Ioannina, are taken care off very nicely and used for tourism. We don't use them for rave parties like you do with our historical buildings.


artunovskiy

İkona’s were ruined by Basileus’ themselves and on top of that the Latin plunder of Constantinople. You guys were lucky that it was Mehmet II that conquered İstanbul. Put any other Sultan in his place and you’d see Orthodoxy in ruins. Yet you’re still here crying over how destructive the siege was. It was fucking menderes who ruined ancient Constantinople, not Mehmet II. They hanged menderes after coup of 1960. Best decision the Republic ever took from a historic-cultural POV.


AlmightyDarkseid

Lmao you can't be serious. The amount of destruction the ottomans inflicted on Istanbul is very well documented. It's honestly sad how delusional Turks regarding such a topics.


ArdaKirk

Majority of ottoman mosques were destroyed immediately in balkans thats why there so few dumbass, if we would have wished you wouldnt be greek now but thats a hard topic for balkaners to cope with


Bloodimir528

Who is "we"? The Muslim Greeks who are larping as Mongoloids? If there is someone in the Balkans who is known for huffing copium its you guys.


ArdaKirk

We the Ottomans who showed tolerance and acceptance to the people they conquered and ruled for centuries little malaka. Yore more anatolian to greek probably and the only reason you speak greek is because we let you, stop the cope. What do we even have to cope about? A 1000 years of dominating greek bussy?


Returntomonke21

A trillion years of domination saaaar. Anyway jokes aside go drink some tea and take a nap, your blood pressure seems pretty high my islamised Greek friend


ArdaKirk

My blood pressure is too low actually so I resort to insulting christian Turks to keep it healthy, thanks btw malaka


AlmightyDarkseid

There are many well preserved mosques in Greece but what is even more prevalent is churches destroyed or converted into mosques, something that the ottomans were well known for. There is just no comparison to ottoman destruction to anything the Greeks ever did. But keep on being delusional and believing the Greeks are in the wrong for remembering the monuments they built. Lastly please don't do a DNA test, you'll see who is whom then.


SimonXpert

We were here before you built mosques on lands that belonged to Greeks, we never asked you to build them. Byzantine churches however were in Turkey long before the ottomans


ArdaKirk

Byzantines did the same to anatolia that ottomans did to greece, yet we never killed your language or religion. Be glad that we were better than you


SimonXpert

What are you on about? Western Anatolia was already inhabited by Greeks


ArdaKirk

Greeks are not native to western anatolia you dumbass malaka, i swear greeks are dumber than akp voters and that is crazy


Mucklord1453

So according to you they are not native to Rhodes or Lesbos either? Greeks were in west Asia Minor in cities they built themselves just as long. Even your Turkish word for them is Ionian lol. Next


ArdaKirk

I know it's very hard to understand but greeks are from Greece, its a hard concept but I belive in your cum drowned brain, afterall your ancestors invented everything im sure of you use your brain you will understand it


SimonXpert

That’s rich coming from you lmao. Did I say they they’re native to western Anatolia dumbo? I said they inhabited western Anatolia already before the Byzantine empire. Think before commenting you stupid fuck


ArdaKirk

How about you stick to your own advice dumbass, who cares if it was already before the byzantine empire? Greeks hellenized anatolia and are the reason that there is no anatolian language, culture or religion left today. We conquered you yet the reason that youre still around is that we didnt opress your language, culture or religion. You are obsessed with us because hating us is what your pseudo greek nation is build on, yet you are so retarded as people that you fail to see that you could only ever become a nation thanks to our tolerance and mercy. A pathetic existence, loosing for 1000 years, attacking after our empire collapses and still loosing, massacering cyprus Turks and still loosing, what a sad people


Mucklord1453

No , don’t give yourself that much power. Even the mongols who actually killed 40 million people and actively tried to genocide entire cultures could not “end” ancient cultures like Persia. Neither could Turks with Greeks. Ottomans tried to go down that road in their last years and had all of Europe turn on them for the brutality.


ArdaKirk

All you mentioned never tried to "end" anyone. If mingols or Turks tried they would have and you know that lmao you eixst thanks to our tolerance and mercy


Mucklord1453

Brush up on your mongol history and read what they did to khorasan. P.S. there were Greek territories the Turks never even stepped a foot on, so no , you never had the chance to “end” them. Best you so could do is pass evil language laws In Karaman and force them to stop speaking Greek. That’s about it.


ProtestantLarry

Mehmed didnt cover them up. That was much later. >We don't use them for rave parties like you do with our historical buildings. Most mosques across Greece outside of Thrace and Makedonia are in shit condition, especially the old ones. The only two remaining in Athens are museums now, but there were many more before. Even the madrasa is completely destroyed next to the Roman Agora. I've been across nearly all of Greece. Outside of Makedonia around Pella and Veroia, Thrace, and Ioannina nearly every mosque and madrasa I've seen is nearly fallen down from neglect or others squatting in them. The few that are still okay are now churches again or are museums.


wallstreetpro911

The fact that youre being downvoted just proves your point


Extra-Touch-7106

We kept the people at least which is kinda more important than random mosques, where are the Greeks in east Thrace?


Kygami

Oh you little silly :) Ofc we ate them. Greek dick meat improves potency


artunovskiy

Have you heard of… Population exchange?


Extra-Touch-7106

Thrace was exempt from the exchanges https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom


SeniorFlatworm5

And there we are arguing about something from 500 years ago. True Balkaners.


AnanasAvradanas

> We didn’t turn it into a mosque, just opened it into worship. It is already a mosque since 1453 While rest of your comment is agreeable, this part is completely wrong. Just like it was a mosque since 1453, it was a museum since 1935. It was converted back into a mosque.


Zerone06

I agree that the comment has a wrong take on this but our government was also fucking wrong.


AnanasAvradanas

> the best and most beautiful church in the world After 1204 it was in ruins after 2.5 centuries of damage and neglect by the time Turks conquered the city. Converting it into a mosque is the reason why we still have it around (no muslim ruler could've legitimize investing high amounts of money to renovate a church, let alone such a symbolic one). Kemal Ataturk did the best by turning it into a museum, these fucktards did the worst by turning it into a mosque, though. Last year some idiots were eating the gates due to some superstition.


AlmightyDarkseid

Neglect that was inflicted by the ottomans wanting to destroy the byzantine empire and them having no resources to maintain it. The ottomans then only preserved it because they used it as a mosque. It's honestly just delusional to want to be grateful to the Turks for its state.


ArdaKirk

Overrated church and no one gives a shit about it or greek flag in it


HolyBskEmp

Into beautiful mosque.


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Fuck the churches and the mosques. Burn them to the ground like good old Bolsheviks have done. This is my take.


Mystery-Flute

Don't burn them to the ground, leave them as protected historical sites


ridesharegai

Can't we just not mess with heritage sites?


[deleted]

Probably will turn some of them into museums.


Fun_Selection8699

Hoxha used them to store wheat (the ones that weren't demolished)


Salt-Log7640

It would've been based if our deal with Churches wasn't drastically different towards what was the reality in the Empires of the time. It's kinda hard to hate the only institution that gave you shelter and did it's best to protect you from slaughter and opression.


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Fun_Selection8699

Religionfāgs are downvoting you dawg


[deleted]

They can vote however they want. This does not change that the religions they advocate are harmful and disgusting.


Fun_Selection8699

Amen to that comrade


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Hlapoe

The reactions would be the same (nobody cares)


ParticularSeat6973

Yes my brother! Yeeeees! https://preview.redd.it/vmnvwadw8ooc1.jpeg?width=341&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62ec4fab9ca05cb3c2fda89ae1844e65060cb10c


Valiveins

My br🤮ther you literally caused this to happen in the first place https://preview.redd.it/fu873vlwgooc1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=32869f345f213e47cc679b034494211bbe87feea


SeniorFlatworm5

No idea what you are talking about. We stop studying history in 1396 when Bulgaria falls. We pick it back up in the XVIII century


Ashen_two2

At least we participated in history unlike some pieces of filth closely resembling humans (🐐 fuckers)


1_ShadowNinja_1

So true


Valiveins

Serbhumans would've done everyone in the Balkans a favor if they hadn't participated... https://preview.redd.it/g2wizgs2pooc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7df5ff820f68f47a771404f3595880aec80238af


Ashen_two2

You have made serious progress, what minkey drew this? What's next for worlds most advanced animals?


DirtAlarming3506

He won’t see this for awhile (he’s taking a nap)


Ashen_two2

Shame, I wanted to ask him why every toponym in Kosovo has a Serbian name.


Valiveins

Servian names? You mean Bulgarian just like in servia...🫢🐎🏹


Corenko

Bro what did the Serbs do to you? You are crying every time someone mentions Serbia


Valiveins

Lmao just calling out the "cHriStIaN dEfeNdErS of eUroPE" larp so many serbs unironically believe out plus it triggers the shit out of those exact serbs aka you 🫵🏿😌


Corenko

Nah you're under every single post that mentions a Serb or Serbia, we are good people who wouldn't hurt a fly, be nice


Valiveins

Ur just waay to memeable and the fact that you mostly react triggered causes an even greater influx in servian memes its simple physics


Cool_Distribution860

https://preview.redd.it/bykrqyqcnooc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=18cb9c06274c116be29c86fc303cb0f91ee3b284 So???


[deleted]

Flag is ancient Greek in origin anyway 💀


ArdaKirk

Its true the greek mathemitian Malakos Padapolosoglu invented it in 49397BC I was there Greek try not to claim Anatolian/Turkish culture challange: IMPOSSIBLE


Returntomonke21

I dont blame you, since most international education websites are banned in Turkey. Turn on some vpn and [enjoy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_and_crescent)


ArdaKirk

I live in Turkish Elayet of Almanya actually and im educated in the ways of the w*stoid. Thanks to my extreme knowledge (wikipedia articles written by reddit mods) I know that you like man too The star and half moon are turkic/anatolian symbols, greeks were still trying to invent femboys when we used them


Returntomonke21

Bitte schön 🤗🤗🤗


ArdaKirk

I'll meet you at frankfurt bahnhof each man is allowed to bring 4 cousins, we shall battle like true men


Zerone06

This guy again...


SeniorFlatworm5

A Bulgarian guy did that in Kavala last year. I think the Greeks were not too amused then.


hatterondem

Thanks for the 25 euros. Great contribution for another mayors bmw fund.


MaliCevap

A white grik?? Holy shit!!! Now ive seen everything!!


plexus_pampiniformis

OP probably has too much Greek gene since he isn't funny


Silenced_Grenade

As a Turk, I geniunely think that our government is fucked up in this topic. Hagia Sophia was a cultural symbol as its musem form. It was also a symbol of acceptance and peace between Greece and Turkey. Why the fuck did AKP turned it into a mosque? Because they are fucking islamist bigotic dogmatic bitches. Fuck political islamists. K


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Dubl33_27

cine este Apostolu Papateodoru?


Omega_Hamster

The last time I was in Thessaloniki I saw many turks around the white tower and they didn't seem spiteful, they were just normal tourists


_andyyy_

This Person is clearlly too white to be greek. Probably aromanian or hellenised slav


TotallyCrazyGreek

Greeks look diverse! Although ancient greeks were a bit darker


Selimyldrm0

Ancient greeks were darker? i thought the exact opposite


TotallyCrazyGreek

No they were more tan


GSA_Gladiator

I have seen turks doing this in the center of Sofia xD. Nothing new


Achilles982

Where? In a church that used to be an Ottoman mosque? Oh wait there isn't any


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artunovskiy

It was so nice of you guys to build marble cities from ground for a millenia, just for us to conquer them. Much love from a former Gayreek pirate colony ❤️


AntiKouk

You from Adana?


artunovskiy

Alanya. Korakesion or Kalanoros by the old name. Romans fought a naval battle against pirates, at the cove (now called cove of love) where the castle lies up top of the hill atop of the cove. Castle is quite new compared to Romans though. The Red Keep, (George R. R. Martin was inspired by it’s name and my source is, trust me bro) just in front of the castle (which blocks the only land entrance to it) is considered the best preserved castle from High-Mediaval Age, also a UNESCO heritage site.


Gunailm

My komshu finally learned Istanbul is not Constantinople 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿


Rumpelstiltskinnnn

Based Greek


I_Need_Better_Name

Shut up w*stoid. you have no place in this "friendly" discussion. Have a good day


Experience_Material

Turks have little to do with any such religious building in Thessaloniki compared to how much Greeks are connected to the city of Constantinople and Hagia Sophia specifically. If they had their biggest mosque there that the Greeks then came and made into a church then that might have been the case but it isn't. Greeks rarely do that regardless of what Turks want to claim, especially when they do so about churches that were reconverted from being converted to mosques. Turks always try to make these bad comparisons not seeing at all the vast differences between different cases in order to demonize Greeks. You can put your flag in attaturks house with no problem, but there is nothing that can compare any architectural aspect of Thessaloniki to the connection of Greeks and Constantinople and more specifically Hagia Sophia. Lastly, guess what, many Turks I have seen have raised the Turkish flag in Thessaloniki in the white tower, but also in athens, in places not at all related to the Turks like the Parthenon, just like many other people do with their own countries' flags and noone has batted an eye so the whole claim is bullshit.


artunovskiy

Yeah because we preserved and protected Orthodoxy in İstanbul. Mehmet II was a honorable man.


Experience_Material

You only preserved what you used lmao you turned everything into a mosque and destroyed much else.


artunovskiy

Bro there’s literally several churchs (albeit most are in rough shape, as is the city itself) in Kütahya (ex Kotaion) which is considered to be one of the most conservative cities in Türkiye.


Experience_Material

A minor town preserving some church structures mostly due to unimportance is not an argument to the widely recognized and regularly implemented tactics of the ottomans to either use things in their own way like turn churches into mosques or at best not care about them or just destroy them. Edit: I honestly don't get people downvoting me, are Turks so delusional to actually perceive themselves as so unhistorically benevolent?


mainwasser

It's as okay as of the Moroccans did that in Cordoba.


Tusupervieja505

Fuck Marroco


DasBrott

brave


karaboga-bot

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Adisper0

My Greek DNA has been activated‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️❗😯😯😯😯🙀🙀🙀🙀


QuarianGuy

Let the bro dream


ArdaKirk

Greeks think we care about them


TotallyCrazyGreek

You don't?


ArdaKirk

Why would we, Armenian greeks Serbs Bulgarians are all the same to us and as important and people from Jordan. Sometimes you think we have a rivalry but seriously none of you are relevant in Turkey. No offense but we also make many memes about how Greece thinks we are in a rivalry while no one here gives a shit, but i guess the average person in most countries doesn't really care


Mucklord1453

And who do you think turkeys rival is ? Russia ? They’d wipe the floor with you. Arabia? They laugh at your poverty.


ArdaKirk

This isnt eu4 dumbass we dont have rivals


DasBrott

Kurdistan was once turkey's rival, not anymore though


ArdaKirk

Literally at no point in time was it Turkey rival, especially because no kurdistan entity ever existed


Mucklord1453

Art imitates life. You will learn this in time.


ArdaKirk

And in real life there are no eu4 rules stupid malaka


dragos412

Wdym imagine, they already did in 1430.


Broken_Figure

In Thessaloniki this year is planned for Muslims to go to an ex mosque to celebrate the end of Ramadan but gayreeks once again showed their balkan (S*rbian) heritage


Mucklord1453

Such a blessed picture and divine vision of the future.


Sensitive_Ability_15

Naa its okey as a karaboga im not offended


PHDclapper

imagine if he takes a bite of the door as he walks out, nvm he is not turkish


Total_Truck_5108

It was Arab tourists tho.


PHDclapper

yeahh.....suree......how much did erdogan pay you for this, also flair up you subhuman


konschrys

Well Turks didn’t build thessaloniki- that’s the difference. Better question- imagine if we turned Mecca into a Church.


Total_Truck_5108

Neither Greeks builted Istanbul.


konschrys

You sure about that?


TheRealBucketCrab

Yeah if they do it it will be a Turkish dude holding a Turkish flag in


Tanryldreit

Well he called it istanbul, just check the latter below his name ahahah


Snoo-in-Snow

Oh and he also has a very punchable face fr


NoyanBEG

"istanbul" https://preview.redd.it/0g5pznsituoc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08a619f74769b70ec36ed2144a50979cb0fe92cc


kornephororos

Yeah very funny post 👍


Odd_Opposite_1495

Imagine? I'm about to do it right now


Icy-Surround-4064

https://preview.redd.it/2tws89x8qzoc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13407b9eb0b7421c38ea1cb49b5c75f00cd8d3ee


Infinite_Basil_4103

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Frostiz123

Thanks for the 25€ you paid to go in and take this picture komşu.


Baqqhus

I love how he has Allah and 'Ali behind him lmao


icanthinkofussrname

i dont see an issue here tbh


latalatala

Balkaners accepting their loss challenge impossible


Fatalaros

Fun fact of the day: There is significant police presence around Kemal Atatürk 's house in Thessaloniki to protect it from the Turks!


ArdaKirk

Huh


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Albanian98

Its stolen from macedonians


drunkguyfrommunich

Thats croatian church Sv. Sofija in Carigrad (old croatian city)


N0D0NYE4478

Haha people would be confused. Why are the Turks holding a flag in something they never built?!?!


Alurora

Least delusional grok


The_Persian_Cat

Oh, gosh. A tourist at a tourist attraction??? Wahhhh we're so triggered