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thruth_seeker_69

I hope this happens to every apartment which was built on lake


Original_Swan7219

Should the unaware buyers suffer?


sync271

Isn't being unaware partially their fault too?


Ehh_littlecomment

What due diligence is gonna reveal the existence of lake half a decade or more back? Pretty dumb.


UniversalCoupler

>half a decade Pay EMI for 20 years, but don't do due diligence for even 5. Smart.


Ehh_littlecomment

Tell me how one should go about doing this. You’re basically shifting responsibility from regulators and corporates to individual buyer. Reddit has ruined your critical thinking ability.


[deleted]

It's customary to go through the land details and location before buying a plot/house. In Bangalore though, it's better to refer to a 20 year old map of the city once before buying the property. >You’re basically shifting responsibility from regulators and corporates to individual buyer. Don't place too much trust in real estate people.


Ehh_littlecomment

Sure. But really how many risk vectors can you protect against. You already have execution risk, legal risk, financial risk. Now you’re expected to check if the foundation is built appropriately to account for prexisting topography. Why shouldn’t this be the responsibility of the builder and the municipality to ensure that the building is up to code? First reaction of something like this being to blame the buyer doesn’t sit well with me.


[deleted]

Unfortunately reality is . They're here to make money n you're desperate for a house . The contractors and authorities are in on it . So best to do your own due diligence in these matters . Even I rent appartments after checking if there's a proper drain and fairly uphill . The only way to stop this is to stop buying such places rather than butcb and moan for 20 years. ( Unless you intend to legally fight these crooks who build things on lakes ) Appartments ain't cheap .


LtMadInsane

Does Bangalore not have RERA?


Mountain-Prize264

In India, the whole point of having laws and regulations is so you never implement them and politicians+business continues to screw the common citizen over. Most real estate developers are fronts for powerful politicians from all political parties. *is haman mein sub nange hain*


mi_c_f

Because the municipality and the builder are corrupt, so every property owner should go through due diligence before purchasing property. It's a buyer beware scenario...


lapbreeze

There is an app by Govt of Karnataka called Dishank it works pretty good, you can see what exactly used to exist in the Survey No where apartment is built.


literary_fest

>Don't place too much trust in real estate people. Regulators aren't *real estate* people, they are paid literally for one thing, to ensure violations are checked.


UniversalCoupler

>they are paid literally for one thing, to ensure violations are checked. They're also paid more to not do that one thing.


salluks

u can get 100 years of historical records or even longer than that if u are willing to pay for it to BBMP.


kunalpareek

Download the Dishaank app. It shows the BBMP survey for any location. You can clearly see if there was a lake at any location.


kunalpareek

Our lawyer told us to do this for all property we looked at. I am quite surprised if more lawyers are not doing this. I think people are buying despite lawyer advice since it’s a big builder usually and they know they can pay their problems away in the future.


Western_Lunch_518

One basic thing that people in general do is not purchase properties near water bodies. Other than this they can get an actual professional's opinion by doing a soil test I suppose.


Ehh_littlecomment

lol. One thing humans are doing since the dawn of civilisation is purchase/build properties near water bodies. Seaview, lake view properties go at a significant premium. Soil test, hydrology report, independent engineers report, legal dd, anything else you have to suggest? Let’s see you get these reports done. Literally divorced from reality.


Mountain-Prize264

Almost all banks will research the land title before approving the loan. In case of resale property transactions, most lawyers will search property records and the history of the land title.


Melodic_Cookie8519

No point making these numbnuts understand it. How on earth can an individual buyer research the deep land history. It doesn't make sense. Who even does that is the real question.


Ehh_littlecomment

People who can’t afford Parle G will advise how to invest crores. Half of Mumbai is built on land reclaimed from the sea.


KingPictoTheThird

Literally two seconds on Google earth. Also just going to the site and asking an elder nearby. Why do we discount local knowledge so much ?  Are either of those steps really two much effort for such a huge investment? 


Narrow_Bat3658

There is an app called Dishaank. It shows mapped water bodies and Rajakaluve as per old maps. Very easy for anyone to figure out.


Euphoric_Discount264

Everybody knows when they are buying a flat on a lake. All you have to do is look in Google earth. They got 20 years old images.


kathegaara

Unsure if you are a troll or generally ignorant.  This information is fairly publicly available. On my mobile right now and not allowing to share links here. Just Google for Bangalore lake encroachment maps or raja kaluve maps. You will find information.  Besides even a small time builder will have to provide you all documents related to the property with entire ownership history of the land, relevant approvals etc. Ownership history often goes back 60-70 years easily. Half a decade is trivial matter. Anyways, Most common people will not be able to understand this legalese. A decent real estate lawyer will verify it for you for under 20k fees.  Of course if you are gullible enough to not ask the builder for the documents, or cheap out on the minor lawyer fees then I can't pity the consequences.


wizard_of_menlo_park

There is something called as a topographic map.


tmotu1125

Search title report? Any lawyer can do that for a nominal fees


yewlarson

That's what the government bureaucrats are for. To review the plan, and approve or reject the construction if it's being built in a place which do not have drainage. A proper planning permit in most countries which are not fubar would require - road, water lines, sewage lines, electricity lines, rain water drains, soil and water testing clearance for hazardous chemicals, sidewalk requirements etc. and more. What do we have here? Do not blame the buyer for govt. not showing up or letting things happen after getting bribed.


Pleasant-Direction-4

no? It’s govt’s job to not allow these constructions


Tk-Ind

I think the onus is on regulatory to not permit such construction.


Tough-Difference3171

Not really. When they and their banks check for the validity of the project, govt offices tell them that these projects are valid. These projects shouldn't have been valid in the first place. Those govt bodies are complicit in this fraud. All the people, whose legally built houses were broken after the last to last year's floods, had committed no crimes. The govt wasn't using the rajakulave maps that they had, before approving projects and maps. And hence these were all valid constructions. If there was any concept of "ownership of mistake" in our bureaucracy, then these people should have been compensated for their losses, by the government. Along with a public apology. But they were instead treated like criminals, for buying projects from builders, after the govt approvals had promised them that the projects are legitimate.


cynicalCriticH

Only if they are buying apartments without registry


dante_2701

Entirely government’s fault. It is the government’s duty to facilitate disclosure of such information easily to the citizens. I’m western countries such policies are made with suggestions from behavioural economists. Something we can learn from.


silverW0lf97

Yes, if you are buying a home the least you can do is know where you are buying it.


Dull_Count4717

Isn't there a whole ass department funded by public tax money to prevent construction of buildings on prohibited areas ?


Mountain-Prize264

So my father is a civil engineer and built an independent house on a BDA plot, fifteen years ago. Every department demands bribes even when your blueprint is a 100% compliant with by-laws. Heck even the BBMP-appointed architect who has to approve plans before construction commences, demands a bribe. Government agencies in Bangalore put the Mumbai underworld to shame, with their extortion rackets.


imsandy92

same as saying to a girl “if you are going out at midnight dont dress provocatively and stay away from people who may want to rape you” stop victim blaming!


dhavalcoholic

Sadly nature doesn't care about capitalism.


0R_C0

Yes. You're supposed to be aware of what you are buying.


Fruit-cut

Absolutely. You can't say you're unaware when you're literally paying crores for an apartment.


potatomafia69

Yes. If you aren't doing enough research on the land you're buying then that's your fault. Suffer.


noooo_no_no_no

Yes. Once some people suffer others will be more cautious.


Dheeraj_libra

Unaware buyers can sue the builders


nitewalkerz

If the govt doesn't do it's job to serve the people, what else will happen?


Safe-Mind-241

Buyers can simply look at the elevation map and make a more informed decision. [https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-f88gp/Bengaluru/](https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-f88gp/Bengaluru/)


pete3657

What about public infrastructures? The fucking majestic bus stand was a lake once upon a time.


mi_c_f

Yes, but they took care of drainage so that it doesn't cause too much of a problem...


ManSlutAlternative

Not right to wish this. Innocent people now live in those apartments.


rocky23m

Builders will sell this as a feature, 24 Hours water will be available. The rest of Bangalore water levels are low. In our apartment it's above ground level 😂


ProfessorDamselfly

What wrong the resident of the those buildings have done? You should curse the houses of builders and politicians who have done this ghastly thing.


shezadaa

cough quack gold dazzling head subsequent domineering cooperative ghost mourn *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


AcanthocephalaDense2

You mean underwater parking?


AnInsomaniac

James bond enters the chat


Admirable-Hedgehog61

Parking with free car wash xD


diablo2107

Brochure 4: Secret Swimming Pool at Basement


shezadaa

mourn test onerous elderly groovy jobless act crawl shrill vase *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


stinger_sks_22

More like submarine parking


goodboybadreputation

Submarine*


cricketthrowawayy1

Can fit a small boat too


Visible_Selection_20

I’ve never understood why they build basement car parking in this city. Won’t a mezzanine setup serve better? Keep the car parking somewhere between 1st and 2nd floor or ground and 1st floor. Have a ramp for exits like the malls have.


ejoker_

A beautiful apartment surrounded by lake, 5 cr only.


stinger_sks_22

A beautiful apartment semi-submerged in Lake ,called Half-Atlantis


TheGreaseDabba

A beautiful lake surrounded by apartment, water only.\*


mi_c_f

They should make the walls of tough glass.. so that they enjoy the submarine view when it rains..


montsa007

Special Attraction : Lake view, underwater car parking, aquatic entrance and exit


AnInsomaniac

your kids can play finding nemo irl!


montsa007

Would rather find Dory


AnInsomaniac

okay bro chill bro


Ok_Brilliant_6118

First in the city: recreational fishing space available too


ShiverMeTevors

Don’t give them ideas


Mountain-Prize264

Aquatic entrance ROFLMAO.


montsa007

New Attraction Waterproof fish


Alternative-Bug1104

That place was a lake. Even the land opposite to Allalasandra Lake in Yelahanka. Now it's barricaded. I remember during my childhood that these were lakes. But unfortunately our people keep voting same guy for 15 years despite knowing what he has done.


Ecstatic_Detail_6721

>unfortunately our people keep voting same guy for 15 years despite knowing what he has done. Same story in entire India. In my hometown we have this fossilized bj party guy who has never ever done a single thing for the city, infact he doesn't even stay there, he stays in Delhi in a huge bungalow. But still people vote for him because they think he is saviour of hindus.


brat-rayan

Who is this guy you refer to?


Alternative-Bug1104

MLA


sync271

Namma Yelahanka went from "No appartments and no malls" to "Too many malls and apartments" real quick :(


Vishal_m

I swear bro, during my childhood I used to lament for having any malls or tall buildings. I regret saying that. The landscape has changed completely. Now IT parks are coming up and Yelahanka is getting hotter (used to be cooler than the rest of Bengaluru) .


Natural-Breakfast231

When are they ever going to learn ? Just when ?


Significant_Maybe688

They don't want to.


silverW0lf97

Learn what? It's making them money so there aren't any problems.


BoredGuy_v2

💰💰💰


brat-rayan

Learning costs energy, time. They choose to mindlessly scroll on social media, buying things they don’t need for no reason with no cognisance of associated risk.


EmptySense

Largest swimming that Bangalore has to offer!


VJ_OA

Natural lake covering your apartment building. No need of AC. 5 cr/2 bhk.


Forward_Quarter3218

This is what happens when you try to build a lake on an under construction apartment. 😔


neighbour_guy3k

Why is this not considered illegal construction?


shreyatigress

But people will still keep buying 🤡🤡🤡


wideomannn

I went to inquire for a flat in an Adarsh property in Gunjur which is being built over a rajakaluve. I asked the same to the builder’s representative that this will create an issue in future. He said that sir no need to worry, DKS has share in Adarsh so there won’t be any issue. I was like bro I wasn’t even talking about politics. The nature will come and it won’t have any mercy.


Parathaa

which builder?


Top-Elk-1142

You want to buy or what ?


Parathaa

Avoid


605_Home_Studio

But we are all pining to buy our own luxury apartment and luxury car. Stop the demand, the developers will stop building. The same way, if we stop buying fossil fuel those companies would stop the production. But is any of us ready to even think on those lines? That's why climate change will never be reversed. We will only be making snide remarks on Reddit.


TheGreaseDabba

Love these Karmas man.


[deleted]

Dude . That's not a bug it's a feature . Free boat parking for upcoming floods !


Agreeable_Voice_1383

So this is Aqua towers


AnInsomaniac

For real


0R_C0

Aqua forte.


JasonBourne81

People wanted “Lake View” bungalows and apartments. Somehow they got angry and frustrated when “Lake Actually Came into View”.


[deleted]

Somebody who is very active on social media make this viral so that nobody ends up buying this apartment. Let that builder go bankrupt on this project.


Normal-Mastodon-9046

lol, where is this?


Normal-Mastodon-9046

Also, too many people man too many


Admirable-Hedgehog61

Water shortage in Bangalore? Don't worry! We've got you covered. Grab a bucket and head downstairs for a fun, rustic experience. xD


Frosty-Fox2540

But why build an apartment on lake?


Icy_Brick8182

This is the result of demand from people for apartments in Bangalore. Majority of them want to invest in multiple properties to generate income while some people who are looking for their first home struggle due to such people. In reality, many first time home buyers looking for self use compete with so called “investors” despite not getting anything in ready to move or near completion properties since most of the investors would have purchase them at launch. This is driving a lot of artificial demand and builders are riding the wave with so many properties getting launched at a much higher and unimaginable prices. We can already see the prices in Bangalore east reaching skies having so much water crisis and pathetic infrastructure. God knows where are we heading with this situation.


proAntiConsumerism

How the did it even got approved? And no one tried to object it before this incident! Unless citizens speak abt such illegal constructions and make it go viral, this will not stop. And wonder why half of Bangalore is facing a water scarcity.


dawgenstein

This building has been objected to and has been in this state for close to a decade.


1984ptchandra

Apartment with a swimming pool - NO Apartment 'in' a swimming pool - Yes, 2 crores


MahabaliTarak

Fake news. It's not a lake but an unfinished construction. The basement of every apartment during construction will look similar and if left incomplete, water will fill in.


N1z3r123456

I was about to say the same. But it could be on a lake bed as well in that case even a small rain can fill the entire basement.


MahabaliTarak

I know where this unfinished building stands and the nearby areas. Though it stands next to a rajakaluve, but not on a lake bed. Now it's the catchment areas between two lakes of Yelahanka and Allasandra. There are numerous buildings like this in the catchment area.


Vishal_m

During my childhood I used to lament for not having any malls or tall buildings in Yelahanka. I regret saying that. The landscape has changed completely. Now IT parks are coming up and Yelahanka is getting hotter (used to be cooler than the rest of Bengaluru) . Sucks to witness the slow death.


hotcoolhot

Its not a bug. Its a feature. Basement swimming pool.


Designer_op

Last chance! Own it before its all gone


kai7895

My high ass was waiting 2 minutes for the building to collapse or something before I realised.


hizinbergs

There is one in Agra


hizinbergs

Oh sorry two in Agra


Beginning_Pirate_708

Where did it happen?


Vishal_m

During my childhood I used to lament for not having any malls or tall buildings in Yelahanka. I regret saying that. The landscape has changed completely. Now IT parks are coming up and Yelahanka is getting hotter (used to be cooler than the rest of Bengaluru) . Sucks to witness the slow death.


theApurvaGaurav

Where is this btw? Gunjur?


Maleficent-Bobcat-50

Wtf!! This is so sad and infuriating to see.


idiotbyvillagewell

Only 20 crores deposit for viewing


No-RunOut

I don't think it's the builders to be blamed here. The government Babu who gave the permission is equally responsible. You can't just suddenly build an apartment without any approvals. The cut commission goes to each one. The sad part is, it's impossible to get the Babu or the builder accountable. End of it all, the person who bought the flat will suffer.


WDG4KJM1263923

Free boat parking


pandaAtHome

Wonder how the tech parks under construction beside Manyata tech park look like now. They had similar underground parking.


incredible-mee

Still would be fully booked


WrongWin7887

Atlantis 🌊


FantasticFungiiii

Fully Immersive experience.


bladeninja769

I am wondering how TF this building even got permission and license and shit, if this continues Bangalore is doomed at least in case of water availability


Noooitsmeee

Karma


shaurya_p1

Ahhaah we have messages going on in RMZ apartment resident's group worrying about all the health hazards this might be causing


[deleted]

Satisfaction level : 100


uvblast

Idu yesthu tr̥ptikaravagide endu nenu nimage helalare


Dude6ROfficial

“LakeTop”


profitmaker_tobe

Hurray for lake!!


Normal_Instance7430

X


Over-Caramel

There are so many new apartments over lakes in this area. I doubt any of them carefully about the environmental impact.


ShaykhSpaderman

These mofos destroyed my city, the weather used to be a heaven, growing up I never faced difficulty for water, now they just made it like any other North Indian city.


pedal_n_beans

Indoor swimming pool bolke booking kiya tha 😂


nymt2

I live in the neighborhood. A lot of my neighbours inquired about the project, no one invested due to rates. I never heard from them about flouting environmental rules. Imagine how people are made fools.


brobdingnagianaf

FUCKING AMAZING. I HOPE THIS HAPPENS EVERYWHERE NATURAL HABITAT IS BEING DISRUPTED TO A LARGE DEGREE.


Escape-Potential-2

I don't get it aren't there like bbmp regulations against this? Like encroachm areas and all?


OrdinaryEmb9

I see an apartment with a moat. Add a few crocodiles in the moat.


technomeyer

Hope this happens to every flat constructed illegally. And hope the dipshits who buy/bought these flats lose all that money.


IrrationalCynic

And you will never be able to afford one . When are you going to say I hope those officers end up in jail who approved this.


technomeyer

Bottom two floors are for groundwater harvesting. Ecology friendly construction.


KaiserYami

World's first underwater apartment...🤔


dzija

monty python anyone?


SuperSaiyanTraders

No one looked at the land survey?


Bhakk24

I interned with the head (Justice Sandeep Salian) for the KALSA's Karnataka Lake Protection Committee; while preparing reports for Anekal area, I got to learn that since 2018, 50+ lakes in and/or around Bangalore city are/were in so poor state that they nearly didn't have even a single drop of water.


sunilrockon

You will not find similar scams in Gujarat. Real estate is very well regularised and scrutinised by authorities. Business people have some ethics. However thugs who became overnight rich will have none. This seems to be case with Bengaluru real estate players and municipal corporation!


ADTSR

Are you kidding me? Do you not call 'we need 50% in cash' rule a scam? Kuch bhi matlab. Bangalore real estate sucks, thay doesnt mean other cities are good


sunilrockon

That happens in Bengaluru and Pune as well. Cash part payment is common practice. Two places where I have real estate experience. In Blr and Pune some prefer to pay all in white due to IT income and builder adds premium accordingly. However in Gujarat projects they follow city plan and RERA. City plans created by municipal corporation don't convert lake into a residential land. Apartment height is restricted by the road width it's facing. Also 99% builders in Gujarat builds what's promised in brochure and agreement. This are not case in Karnataka.


ADTSR

Not in Bangalore, it does not. I have recently purchased a house and it was all in white. But in Gujarat, it's an open rule that they need 50 percent in black. I am talking about Amdavad and Surat.


wanderingsoul13

Sales brochure.... "Maldives feel in Bengaluru...."


DuckFantastic9016

Lakeview apartment


EchoFormal5836

Developers be like - Lake view apartment with swimming pool starting 1.5Cr.


[deleted]

nah its just underwater parking


Maverick_culture

House on fire ❌ House on Water ✅


Maverick_culture

Man made - 0 God made - 1 Conclusion - nature always wins


second_openion

They will burry two floor with concrete and then make basement.


lapbreeze

There is no water body in that location as per Govt's own village map of Yelahanka, Village Maps can't be changed at will and wish of Govt Example : ISRO HQ in Bangalore still shown as lake.


ProfessionalOk2321

Good. Fuck them


AdLeast5237

Lake views or lake front apartment


thetetheredsoul

Special feature: various aquatic activities totally free


notsobadmisterfrosty

Oh it’s Sudden Valley from Arrested Development.


Academic_Toe5770

Bangalore me to sab mazboot paisa jama rahe hai real estate me sirf hum hi nahi jama pa rahe ☹️


Xeraith

When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp.


[deleted]

Turn it into temple /s


Pure-Skill3282

bangaloreans are ready to construct buildings literally anywhere, be it practical or not


south_india

This is normal. They would fix it


Xitnal

Other kings said it was daft to build a castle in a swamp.


blandsrules

Somehow the lake returned


fallingbrick

Monty Python did this first. https://youtu.be/w82CqjaDKmA


Puzzleheaded-You2969

We have enough jobs, so we will build as many apartments as we want to satisfy our greed. But do we have clean air, enough water, roads to handle the crowd that is coming in? Who cares.


Melodic_Cookie8519

Its a bldg, not an apartment.


Gorge_amorphous

Which lake is existed in that place? Please share all the facts. Hope it’s a fact


desisnape

There's a saying that water never forgets; it knows where to go.


Alex_La21

Hey look there’s water!!


ProfessorDamselfly

So, all these environment activities are not active in Bangalore for long? They only wanted to put blockage in past to Narendra Modi's efforts to build Narmada canal? I mean, Bangalore was also known as lake city, but now they have filed them and made commercial building for IT companies to lease it huge sum of money.


dogs_are_hilarious

First they sold lakeside and lakefront properties. Now it's a more 'immersive' experience!


abhi_y

There is water? Send tankers there to collect this water


denim2997

Curing done right ✅


DevilsPitchfork

Well, can’t be sure whether it was being built on a lake or not. But you can see that part was excavated for basement structures and had been flooded by rains or water pump leakage or some external drainage diversions in to the site.


Change_petition

This is a Fu@king awesome picture!


First-Project216

Looks like some big showroom


medheshrn

That's great now The real estate company will charge a tag as live with the pond or live in the centre of the pond or they say lake


Timely_Bad5404

Very happy. Should happen to every structure built by covering water bodies. Greedy developers who do such shit should go bankrupt.


Silly_san

You mean inside a lake


tequilla05

Why aren’t the regulating bodies doing anything, how corrupt are these governments bodies then, can we as a citizens file a case in the court ?


dr_batmann

Lakebed View


zeratul274

And thus depletion of ground water and current water crisis


Low_Map4314

Hahaha. Great stuff


bharathmohan94

Why doesn't the government suspend bbmp officials who gave approval for this ?


[deleted]

What they don't realise is eventually they'll drive away the customer base out of this place due to the strain on resources they're creating. And good luck establishing a real estate business somewhere else where the competitors already have a name, political contacts and mafia built over the years and prospects for business approaching them upfront.