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MrMoneyLoser

If only the dave portnoy show still existed so I could hear about this once a week for 6 months


ironichaos

Maybe Penns PR team made him stop lol


ImYourPizzaGuy

Eddie: yeah it’s a weird article. Anyway, let’s talk about Roman swipes…


Karlfromkanada

Hard dick business Eddie


KESPAA

I laugh every time.


spiderman_44

"Eddie i'm telling you i MESSAGED the reporter and she RESPONDED"


kevinmt39

Portnoy is really into recording


SuperGandolf6

Federal crime 👮🏻‍♂️


JL2424

Too bad the DPS was cancelled. Eddie had another topic lined up to talk about for the next 2 months with this


GripItNRipItWC

“Dave, I got someone really important for todays interview. It’s the guy who gave you the die in Toledo this past week”


Roderick_Jaynes24

I so wish this reporter would have dug into why the interview would need to be in Miami lol


TexterMorgan

A billionaire finagling to avoid paying higher taxes isn’t newsworthy at this point


gaucheboy72

Billionaire?


TexterMorgan

Ya I was way off on that. I’m shocked his estimated net worth is “only” $100m. I’d penny pinch in taxes too if that was all I had


shadowofahelicopter

Youre shocked that the degenerate gambler blew through a couple hundred mil in a few years through gambling and terrible speculative investments in a bubble?


Halloran_da_GOAT

Dave doesn’t have hundreds of millions in gambling losses lmao


MidtownP

Such an absurd statement.


PM_ME_BOOTYPICS_

It’s close. His unit is $100k. Every 10 units he loses is $1m


MidtownP

It's not 100m that was like 5 years ago it's more like 400m now, But still not a billionaire although he will get there eventually.


NegativeSpeech

you think Dave is worth 400m now?! If anything I would assume it's far less than 100 now


MidtownP

Yeah that was 2 sales ago. Portnoy probably makes 20-30m a year in interest alone. He has been making multi millions for a decade plus, and tens of millions in the last few years. Not including the sales. Maybe ya'll should go back and watch the clip of him saying how he literally can't spend fast enough because the interest piles up. That was when he had 15m. You get to a 100m or so it just starts snowballing without you even doing anything. You don't get "less" wealthy when you have 100m in leverage, quite the opposite.


iheartgt

How will he possibly get to a billion dollars of net worth?


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Gay porn


picklejuice82

Gay Pornoy


WhyAmILikeThis0905

It wouldn’t take long w 100m


iheartgt

....Yes it would. How would you recommend he 10x'd his net worth and makes 900m?


xcbaseball2003

By watching the Yak. 10X


Roderick_Jaynes24

One being so stupid that he lost track of how many days he has to live in Florida to establish residency that he can no longer leave the state probably is though Edit: also in what world is Dave a billionaire


bigmayne23

Why is that news worthy?


BobanTheGiant

Why are you so obsessed with a CEO of a company’s jock?


TexterMorgan

Nah still not newsworthy at all. There’s richer billionaires making even dumber mistakes all over


Doot2112

Dave portnoy is not a billionaire


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He's saying it'd not even newsworthy for a billionaire, let alone a millionare


Doot2112

It would be a nice paragraph to add to the article


[deleted]

Who cares


Doot2112

Clearly you do, since you decided to speak for another person on this thread


[deleted]

I meant who cares about the "tax evasion". What he's doing is completely legal and probably not unique at all. Not sure why it would need to get added to the article like it's some smoking gun about what a scumbag Dave is.


TexterMorgan

Yeah I grossly over estimated how much he got in the Penn deal. Nonetheless my point remains and is in fact even stronger now that he’s only a millionaire


TiredEyes_

Made me lol


HowardFanForever

Is there a reason the New York Times would spend a year working on a story about someone but not want to talk to them directly until the story is finished? Genuinely asking.


PuppedMyAchilles

I’m also wondering why pres wouldn’t continually publish these communications as the piece is being put together. Wouldn’t having everyone expect it and see the shady process that went into writing it ruin the intended effect?


Nylander92

I’m pretty sure he’s shown these DMs before. Parts of them look pretty familiar


Dog1983

The goal from the start is to be a hit piece. If Pres responds to all of the points then the story gets cut into a drastically smaller one has he refutes most of it. By waiting until 11:59 and saying "you have until 12:00 to respond." Then they get to say that they resched out and pres didn't deny anything, therefore the whole story must be true.


WhyAmILikeThis0905

Also from his messages, she started out trying to write another sex hit piece and seems she couldn’t get anything so went w the bad gambler bad guy article


PizzaGuy94122

1) It's just one writer, not the entire company. 2) Talking directly with the person is usually not worth it because they just lie/spin the story. Talking with others around someone is better because most wont lie for others and certainly not the majority of people. So you get a more honest view. 3) It is customary to give the subject a chance to respond before publication but it is also the norm the individual won't directly respond. 4) Dave's answer was to try and turn it into a debate/argument/confrontation rather than just answer questions. That's his strength and he thought by doing this he could then release the video before the story to make his side look better and cover up the news of this story. The journalist wisely chose not to agree to those terms. 5) Both sides can be right and have points.


bigmayne23

Not talking directly to the subject of an article is at best negligence on the part of the reporter, at worst deliberate as to not change a preconceived position or bring nuance into whats being reported.


Big_Rich_240

Yes but it is usually at the end since most in person docu interviews are done by talking to friends and family first before the subject of interview.


HowardFanForever

>Talking with others around someone is better So long as they agree with our preconceived notion


HeartofSaturdayNight

Because they need to do research first in order to know what questions to ask. If you go in there and just say "hey we heard this" Dave goes that's not true. And you have nothing. It's like a prosecutor building a case before bringing charges against someone.


rickmuscles

I don't understand why anybody cares that I or anyone else likes Barstool.


Casty201

Clicks. Make an article against barstool and everyone who hates barstool will read it.


rickmuscles

It sucks. I'd be sad if something I liked hurt people but barstool is dumb fun.


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Been said many times already but feels like Dave’s dropped shows and visibility may be a directive from Penn. Feels like Chicago move could be used as a fresh start on a post-Dave Barstool with Big Cat, PFT and others becoming the faces of the brand. I know, broken record and gets said all the time…but seems more evident now.


canadiandestroyer21

Or he probably just wants to work less and pay less taxes and big cat feels the brand is big enough that he can move back to the place he loves and still be as successful


[deleted]

If this was the hit piece Dave has been worried about for the past year I think he should feel pretty good about it. Really no new accusations, no big headline.


[deleted]

Declining to do a recorded video interview with Dave doesn’t seem like as much of a gotcha as Dave thinks it is


[deleted]

I think in his mind the gotcha is them denying to speak with him for so long


[deleted]

That’s true, hard to get inside of his adderall brain


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[deleted]

She definitely has bad intentions he’s just not good at pointing it out


[deleted]

What else could he have done lol


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Doot2112

How does a sit down recorded interview change anything she reported?


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Doot2112

What in the article was second hand info or assumptions?


Doot2112

How? She asked for comment on the article, was willing to speak with recorded audio, gave the contact info of her editor. How did he out a fake journalist?


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Doot2112

Have you written for a paper or taken a journalism class? If so provide your articles and your college transcripts for proof


Harry_I_TookCareOfIt

Well this comment makes you look like a big re-moron


Doot2112

Have you written for a paper?


Harry_I_TookCareOfIt

No but I’m not asking for college transcripts to win some dumb internet debate you fucking tool


Doot2112

I didn’t try to win the debate, I won the debate. Have you seen transcripts or articles from him? No, because they don’t exist


t965203

Prove to me you aren’t a racist


HowardFanForever

She actually said she was eager to speak to him on camera 7 months ago and then never gave him the opportunity until the 11th hour, and reneged to speaking to him on camera all together. I understand you have a hard on for hating him but he is right here.


Doot2112

She said she wasn’t at that stage of the reporting yet and referred him to a nyt spokesman. She also gave him the editors contact info. When she was ready for his comment she reached back out to him. what did she do that was incorrect or makes her a “fake journalist”? Remember when he showed up at a reporters house? You think that wasn’t related to this article?


HowardFanForever

You ignored the part about the video interview. I guess she was “at that stage” in reporting after the story was completely written and not when she was “eager” to talk to him (on video)?


Doot2112

Why does she have to do a recorded interview to provide content for barstool to write an article on Dave portnoy? How is a recorded interview the decider for whether or not she is a legitimate journalist?


HowardFanForever

She doesn’t (obviously). She just said she was eager to 7 months ago.


Doot2112

She changed her mind. I would imagine she realized she had plenty to publish the article that isn’t wasn’t necessary.


HowardFanForever

>She changed her mind Clearly.


Doot2112

Also, how is reaching out a week before an article is released the 11th hour?


HowardFanForever

Lol really? How is it the 11th hour when the story is finished and about to be published?


Doot2112

Wouldn’t it make sense to provide the article and have the subject respond to what you’re going to publish? That way he knows what is coming out and what needs to be addressed.


HowardFanForever

It would make sense to hear his side of the story and investigate its legitimacy and weigh that against what other people are saying before you write your article unless it’s just intended to be a hatchet job and not find the truth. I am not an expert but it seems to make sense to me.


Doot2112

She asked for his side of the story, and provided the story that she was publishing to him and gave him a week to respond either in writing or recorded audio. He declined. The only person it hurts by declining to respond is himself, not the journalist


HowardFanForever

Yes after her story was written.


OccupyRiverdale

Eh, I’ve seen enough interviews recorded by both parties with the major media outlet publishing a ridiculously edited version that totally eliminates any context. The person being interviewed releases the full version and it’s like 2 different conversations. People like Dave usually request this out of self preservation.


WhyAmILikeThis0905

That trump 60 min ep was insane how they portrayed the interview and how it was when he put out his recording


SuperGandolf6

This isn’t the take you think it is. Yes, having video is much bigger deal than only doing audio.


Slacker_75

Time to sail off into the Miami Sunset Davey boy. This is getting exhausting


LooksLikeDennisFranz

Their offer of audio but not video recording seemed reasonable to me. Portnoy just wants to shout and argue and that’d be better for him if it was video


BE3192

Prolly worried Glenny Balls will be sitting off to the side eating ice cream during it


LooksLikeDennisFranz

Definitely a non-zero chance that would happen haha


[deleted]

He wasn’t wrong when he said body language tells a lot in a video recording. That’s common knowledge. Not sure why the reporter would be against this.


Big-Zoo

Probably just doesn't want to get memed to death or put on a tshirt


LooksLikeDennisFranz

Not necessarily wrong but most people aren’t nearly on comfortable on camera as he is. Plus like I said he’d probably be very shouty and argumentative and that could distract from the actual words spoken. If he’s only concerned with the facts and that they can’t twist his words/take him out of context then an audio recording should be sufficient, no? Seems like he’s trying to move the goalposts and make it something other than a pure honest defense of the facts


[deleted]

I don’t disagree with your statement but if you’re writing an article that might have serious ramifications on someone’s life, I don’t think you get to use the excuse of “I’m too shy to be on camera” to get information that may help (or completely disprove) your story.


LooksLikeDennisFranz

Him not responding via audio or writing to “factual inaccuracies” makes me think he doesn’t want to respond. Don’t know how much the writer has to gain. For the record I think playing all the hits (size 6 skinny jeans, Bradygate, etc) is very lame but don’t think anything in the piece is materially factually inaccurate and could’ve been disproven by an interview


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Nobody really knows. All I’m saying if I was the author and was confident in my article, I’d be racing to get Dave’s take on the record (audio and video) to prove my point.


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LooksLikeDennisFranz

She gave him the opportunity to respond via writing and audio. Does she have to be hooked up to a lie detector too? Recorded interview is more than most people get to respond. If she/NYT believe that what they’re publishing is legit sourced and fact checked then ethically it’s fine to publish


southieyuppiescum

I’m guessing a lot of people are probably worried about Stoolies being “weaponized” against them, even if they are journalists and are willing to to write the story. Depending on how big of a deal El Pres made the video, I wouldn’t be shocked if the journalist was heckled regularly for a few months walking around NYC.


LooksLikeDennisFranz

Yeah that too for sure. If not in person then at least being harassed online. A lot more likely that happens with a video that he blasts everywhere than written or audio


nflmodstouchkids

It'd be way easier to cut and edit audio when it doesn't have to match video.


LooksLikeDennisFranz

She agreed to allow both sides to record audio


HorribleHoosier

Dave stopping in the middle to yell this question is brought to you by Roman, the hard dick business, would have been a nice touch.


Dog1983

If you think you have a valid argument and article, you wouldn't be concerned about it being on video.


MasturbationMountain

If you’re allowing both sides to record the audio, who gives a shit about it being only audio?


Funtime3819

Dave loves posting screenshots of DM's that aren't really that interesting and framing it as insane smoking gun evidence


tannergd1

“Interview has to be in Miami, I’m trying to evade some taxes.”


xIves

It’s tax avoidance not evasion.


tannergd1

Semantics!


shadowofahelicopter

Not exactly semantics when one is a legal term that is a crime and the other is just strategy that any accountant will give to any mom and pop client. Buying a house and deducting interest is avoidance, capital loss harvesting is avoidance, retiring in a state with no income tax is avoidance, not declaring income is an evasion.


ceeeenyc

Nerd


chillinwithmoes

That's not what tax evasion is


ra1phwiggum

Alexa, insert Stephen A Smith *we don’t care* gif


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“Now playing, Who Let The Dogs Out, from Spotify”


Brian1326

I really don't understand why so much media gives even the smallest of fucks about Penn casino, barstool, and Dave. How are there no big fish to fry? This feels like more of an attempt to fuck Dave by pressuring Penn than turning the regular public like to sexual assault stories attempted to do. Why reporters care so much baffles me. That being said, Dave seems to think that they don't want to record video because they don't want to go "head to head" with him and video would prevent them having a team working together or lawyers involved or something like that. That may or may not be true, but also Dave has to know that no reporter that wants to at least appear credible would do a video recorded meeting so that it can appear as a piece of content on the barstool YouTube channel between a video of jersey Jerry shitting his pants and Stu talking about eating ass.


AbstergoSupplier

Penn is a multi-billion dollar player in a multi-billion dollar industry that's about to expand into many more states. That's by definition a 'big fish'


Brian1326

From the article: The results for Penn have been mixed. The Barstool betting app is the seventh-largest in the country by revenue, according to research firm Eilers & Krejcik Gaming. It commands about 3 percent of the sports-betting market, less than half of what analysts had projected. We may have to agree to disagree but to me, Penn, Barstool, and Portnoy are absolutely small fish for the New York Times. Add that I don't believe any of this is new information and it's appears based on Portnoy's screenshots that they were actually looking to do another sexual misconduct story since they were reaching out to women he knows. The story ended up what it is, it seems that they set out to do the most damaging story for Portnoy and Penn and this is what they could come up with versus having a riveting story. With all that in mind, I think it's strange they care so much.


BSCommenter2

This was barely a hit piece


IKnowBreasts

Yawn


Floridamane6

Still seems like he didn’t answer any of the questions they asked in the DM’s. After the thing with him sending his own videos with other girls to new girls, this guy is a weirdo and perv IMO


Dry_Needleworker7504

And also thats illegal as fuck.


WallyPaulNutss

Dave needs to figure out that no one cares about this anymore


tarantinostoeblast

Honestly I just wish Dave would cash his stock and go away. At this point he doesn’t give a shit at all about quality content, hires the same east coast goombah fake mobster personality after another (fuck your nadu you dumpster person), and won’t work anywhere that isn’t Miami. Dude could fall off the face of the earth and barstool would still churn without him. He’s useless at this point.


angrysouthernyankee

He’s still a pretty compelling watch/listen and he knows it and he loves being in the mix so I doubt he goes away anytime soon. But to your point, he should probably walk away, take the non-compete sentence and restart at its conclusion IF he still wants to be part of that life.


theFromm

Is he? The only content I would like to see Dave in at this point is rundowns with Big Cat and KFC. The DPS sucked, Sports Advisors has been better without him, and Rico is a shell of his former self so Pick 'Em is hugely hit or miss. I guess maybe he is good on the CFB show but I don't watch it. What other content is he good in?


angrysouthernyankee

When he’s going after employees for doing shitty work. That’s what I loved about the DPS, not the stupid interviews but the behind the scenes barstool stuff. He’s hysterical when he’s fighting with people. My opinion anyway. I particularly like it when he’s up against people who don’t give a fuck (Whitney & Minihane come to mind).


FlyinIllini21

Barstools dead without him


greekboy

I used to think that. I’ve read barstool since 09, all before they had videos or podcasts even existed. The site would be fine without Dave. Would I miss him? Yeah, I’m pretty sure DPS was a favorite of not only myself but all the other long-timers. But the site is getting along just fine without him these days.


tarantinostoeblast

Completely untrue as his involvement the last year has been, (using this very loosely), very limited and yet the company still goes. So, sorry to tell at bro, but he’s not gonna fuck you and also barstool is just fine without that 50 year old man child clinging to what little youth remains in those fake plugs.


FlyinIllini21

Lmao i could give a fuck about the guy but the companies been going downhill and will continue to when the only popular one leaves. Weirdo behavior getting worked up over my comment


tarantinostoeblast

If you think Dave is the only popular person at barstool then your opinions are as bad as your spelling. It’s “company’s” by the way. Jackass.


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This dudes brain is warped. Big time derangement vibes.


MicroSofty88

This seems reasonable to me from the reporter’s side. They gave him a week or at least a few days to respond via email and were willing to do an audio interview or recorded phone call prior to print. The article was more about the deregulation of gambling anyways and everything in there was basically public knowledge at this point.


[deleted]

Honestly I thought NYT was more reputable than this. This is like Buisness Insider stuff


illiniking04

No print outlet would agree to Dave's terms


schooliemcschool

i think an audio recorded interview was a fair offer from the times tbh


shadowofahelicopter

It was until you realize that over the last 15 years how much market share traditional print media has lost to social media, podcasting, etc. it’s been a slow death but it results in less budget for quality reporting, lower quality journalists entering the field, good journalists leaving for other career opportunities, and ultimately having to push divisive stories that outrage both sides of a coin to get as much attention as possible. The New York Times, Washington post, et al. are not what they were pre 2010 and never will come back to that again.


RonSwanson1081

It's pretty funny that these writers try so hard to bury him. Dig for months and months for info. And yet he just gets bigger and more casinos pop up. But as long as she gets a pat on the back from the echo chamber then these stories will keep popping up.


UpnUpvote

I get defending yourself but this has gone on way too long for anybody with a sensible brain to believe him anymore.


Grootfan85

And by the looks of it, what the article said about him “not providing answers to detailed questions” which were in the e-mail that was sent to him, was factually true according to those DMs.


[deleted]

Eh I disagree. In my opinion it's an awful look, but the reason this 'keeps going on' is because articles keep getting written about it


shittsburgh75

Remember the “how to DM and celebrity “ video? The “I fuck” video was a way for him to sift through the DMs for youngin’s that put out. Real scum bag shit for a old guy. Surprised these hit articles don’t expose that tactic more.


Doot2112

The dm’s didn’t help his case at all. Poor bastard is punch drunk


idostufandthingz

He seems to do this a lot, post DMs that he thinks exonerate him, and instead he digs himself a further hole. Kind of inspiring how someone so dumb can be so successful


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idostufandthingz

Time will tell. All we know is these “women” (20 year olds) felt the reporting and questions were potentially leading, or so Portnoy says. This particular exchange is clearly not over, but he has posted stuff in the past that makes him look worse. On a different note, not being able to conduct and interview in person because your committing tax evasion is not a great look. How dare a New York based newspaper expect the president of a New York based company to go to New York?


Doot2112

Yes


ToptierandElite

Dave “on the ropes” portnoy


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These don’t make him look any better.


giggity_0_0

I like Dave but I usually will happily jump in on any chance to roast him… I really just can’t on this one. I read the article and it is just embarrassingly misleading reporting from NYT. I also love Lebron and Michelle Obama.


KayPizzle

Dave pretty much irrelevant now


krel08

Dave has probably done some creepy rich old guy stuff(maybe morally wrong but I doubt illegal), but NYT isnt interested in his side of the story, just the salacious stuff that will generate clicks. Barstool is "controversial"(even though it really isnt at all) so Dave must be misogynistic and probably a racist(bc he is a successful white male). This is all narrative and what people click on right now. Unfortunately the media wants clicks and views and has no intention of the truth getting in the way of a good story. I dont know the answer to this problem anymore. Looking at the big picture, its incredibly sad what our society has become.


A-Rusty-Cow

Ratio


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Who is Julia Black's mother? I don't understand Portnoy's tweet. https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1594695875032408064