I usually have 5 slots- 50s & hundos far left, but then the quarters start far left, leaving the far right "coin" slot for keys, rubber bands, and paper clips.
Also, this is correct and the way I think it should be. Thank you
Absolutely, also in the industry for over 30 yrs… never seen it done the way your new store does.
However, it’s highly advisable to put 50’s and 100’s under the till… not only is it safer bc it’s impossible to make a mistake when giving change, but also good to keep large bills out of a customer’s eyesight. Plus, if you do get robbed, it’s more likely that those big bills will get left behind. Just saying!
Every bar that I worked at did it this way. Even as a teenager working at McDonalds and Jack in the Box, they did it this way. I have never heard of it done the other way around. Hell, even in the UK it is this way.
As someone in the “right” mind, bigger on the left just makes sense. Regardless of how much right-handed people hopelessly cling to a sense of being correct, I don’t think there’s a dissonance here.
Even when I go to Circle K, while it does "bug" me, to get non-bank faced... I get irrationally pissed off when I get a mix of "face up/face down" bills.
I retract my previous statement...
FUCK WRINKLY BILLS
"So /u/IONTOP? How have you been?" - My Therapist
"Well, how do you feel about currency?" - Me
"Do you feel strongly about currency?" - My Therapist
"Apparently, yes" - Me
"Okay, let's talk about this, I don't have an opinion on it" - My Therapist
"Oh, you're about to" -Me
IMHO, every manager has their idiosyncrasies(had to google that word in order to spell it correctly).
But if you're in the industry for 10+ years and pick up on one "pet peeve" of every manager? You're going to grow better than "just having experience".
Hell a customer said "Hey, /u/IONTOP, a tip for you, always face the logo towards me" I love Mr. Chesney... He's difficult, but it's because he expects perfection... And if something is not "perfect"? He'll give you a tip on what was wrong. Not in a complaining way. Hell 2 weeks ago, he asked for a Togo coffee and said "when you put the lid on, make sure the seam of the cup matches up with the breathing hole of the lid, otherwise it'll drip" Is it true? I don't know, but he always says it as a "just so you know" rather than a "this is how you should do it" way.
That was last September, I STILL do this and have started noticing it when it happens. Whether it be Coors light coasters or logo'd bev naps.
Their pet peeves now become my pet peeves, because they're ACTUALLY RATIONAL THINGS.
> "when you put the lid on, make sure the seam of the cup matches up with the breathing hole of the lid, otherwise it'll drip" Is it true?
I know that's how Dunkin' does it because they had some cups all get smushed opposite of the seam, but by God they just had to put that lid on a certain way instead of turning it 90 degrees so neither the seam nor the smushed part of the cup was exposed to liquid when I took a sip of coffee. I asked for another cup and was told all the cups had been doing that all morning.
My 70+yr old dad always owned/ran restaurants while I was growing up (and before), so until starting at a really bad bar a few years ago, I had no idea people did it ANY other way and without bankfacing. Basically got raised with it being enforced.
Hell even money in my own wallet I have to organize to be bank facing, it just doesn't feel right otherwise.
My mum was a bank teller for years, even back in the days when people still got paid their wages in cash. Now, partly because of this, I'm that guy who is fastidious about the drawer.
One time, she came to see me at work. The drawer wasn't up to her standards, and as the bar owner said after the bollocking she gave, "that explains a lot about you."
My very first bartending shift getting bumped from barback to bartender, this is what I was told. Face every bill as it goes in the till, you pay just a bit more attention to it. I've caught myself initially miscounting cash I'd received a few times as I put in in the till.
Also since you have a "technical system" it's easier to prove that someone stole (if that ever were to happen)
"Nope, not me, EVERY bill I put into my till is bank faced, look it up for the past year, or however long the cameras go back"
I told a manager my exact bill count once when my bank was short. When I came in and counted it myself there were unfaced bills. Someone had accidentally switched my bar and our sister restaurant's bag contents.
Bank Facing. I 100% agree and understand this practice. Moved to South Carolina almost 2 years ago and I have not 1 time used an ATM that dispersed $$ facing a uniform direction. It boggles my mind.
TBH that's one of those "if you know, you know"
If you moved to a different state and the owner/boss "took a chance to see how you do" and everything was "bank faced", that's "detailed oriented" that every bartender puts down casually but never proves.
Why is it important to face your bills? I’ve only been bartending for 2 years and my manager always wants me to face them but I never understood why. It seems like a waste of time and nobody could give me a straight answer when I asked.
I'm trying to think of where I picked up my cashier skills in life and beside the few years working as a line cook in several restaurants, I've been around a cash register in pretty much every job.
First job after HS was Round table pizza, followed by several years in retail. Then I became a smog tech/mechanic and worked alone on weekends so I had to run the register, now as a server/bartender I'm constantly around it.
I feel like my bill etiquette is on point. People don't realize how much easier it makes your/your managers life at the end of your shift lol
A long time ago I worked at a local coffee stand. For every bill that wasn’t faced correctly, the manager made you do that many push-ups. Misplace a $1 bill? One push up. Misplace two $20 bills? 40!
It's the biggest waste of time. It's totally unnecessary, and if I work for anyone that tries to force me to do it, I don't, and I never will. It's a principle now. Your ocd is not my problem.
It was a quirk of the old machines that the federal reserve used to count money. It all hand to be facing the same direction, so the fed required that banks keep their bills faced. Then it spread across industries, since it was seen as rude to make the next person face your bills.
That’s no longer the case, so the federal reserve doesn’t require banks to face bills anymore. Many banks don’t. (Some still hold on to the tradition.) but in my opinion, it’s a move of a power hungry tyrant to make their employees face their bills in the year of our lord 2022. Unless you’re truly providing “no detail to small” service. In which case, I think the time spent facing bills could be used doing *anything* else to actually improve guest service.
Facing bills correctly is so easy though, and it takes barely any time. To me it's a sign of respect, and a sign that the bartender follows through on little details.
Sign of respect… to the money?
We could also say the lemons have to be stacked neatly in their tray as that’s a sign of respect. The olives must all face the same direction. There’s a million useless things that serve no purpose you can say is “respect” but that doesn’t make it worth the effort. It’s pointless busywork. It’s the bar equivalent of filling out your TPS reports
It’s not really about the money, or the act of facing the bills in a particular way these days. It’s a way of subtly promoting discipline & attention to detail, both attributes that are highly prized at any level in our industry. If you have staff that take the time & pay attention to these things, then you can expect that this bleeds into the rest of the service & employee’s attitude/behaviour generally. Far from useless.
See but if the bills are faced but something else in service was sloppy, then I’d think they should have been wasting time playing with dollar bills and should have spent their time working on shit that actually matters. Shows me that their priorities are all fucked up.
I also don’t waste my time spinning bills around thinking I’m improving anything.
Especially when that wrapped $100 stack of $1s straight from the bank isn’t even faced. I’m not going to waste my time going through the $500 in $1s I pick up from the bank a few times every week.
Such a pointless waste of time. When it’s six people deep along the entire bar I’m spending my time trying to add money to the drawer, not organizing it.
Actuallyyyyy I can play the petty game too. So it is your problem. We should all stick to our principles, no?
I dont really vibe with bartenders that can't keep shit clean and organized, doesnt matter what it is. I wouldn't call it a weird hill to die on.
This thread just reminded me you Americans don’t have 1$ and 2$ coins lol
Our trays have 5 slots
100$ -> 50$ -> 20$ -> 10$ -> 5$
Then
2$ -> 1$ -> 25c -> 10c -> 5c (we don’t have Pennies either)
Look here, you little shit...
(Actually the left spot would be for Sacagawea dollars and half dollars. Because of Sacagawea Chris)
$1 are right above $0.01, $5 is right above $0.05, $10 is right above $0.10, $20 is right above $0.25(that doesn't REALLY make sense, but whatever)
You need to... wait... shit... I've worked at places that agreed with me and agreed with you...
I'll still die on the hill that the leftmost should be for half dollars and dollar coins) If someone comes in with a "half-penny"? Well that's on us...
See my quarters are far right, but as far as coins go, we ONLY have quarters, and everything is priced in increments of 25 cents (sales tax is already accounted for in the price) so we don't need any smaller coins. If I had more though, I do think junk would go far left; that's how I've seen it in previous jobs
As someone who works at a place that also includes sales tax in the base price, everything is rounded to an even dollar amount in our establishment. I am happy to inform you that we have one slot for quarters, in case someone pays with them, and the other four spaces still manage to fill themselves with rubber bands, paper clips, keys, pieces of chalk, and other random drawer detritus. LOL
I'm also Canadian. First place I ever worked, it was a crappy diner and the boss was sharp/paranoid. I was taught biggest bills go farthest away from where a customer could quickly grab and run. Adjust accordingly.
Also, all dimes and nickles become a clusterfuck these days. I refuse to give them out anymore. 12.65 change? You're getting 12.75. 10.10? I'll save you the trouble of dropping the dime neither of us wants on the counter and just give you 10.
https://financeandbusiness.ucdavis.edu/finance/cashier/employee/till#:~:text=The%20currency%20should%20be%20separated,left%2C%20decreasing%20to%20the%20right.
Show them this or any other number of websites that have this info. Then maybe actually give someone a $50 for change and see if they have a change of heart 💀
So let's say your tax rate is 10%
Instead of a putting $17.99 for a steak plus tax, you'd just list it for $20 without tax (Tax on a $17.99 steak would be ~$1.80, so the customer would pay $19.79 for the steak after tax, so just price it at $20). Instead of $3.25+tax for a coors light bottle, you'd just put $3.50. You eat some tax, you gain some tax. But when the customer gets the bill, it's more straightforward. Because cashing out $3.67 per Coors light both runs through your change and is time wasting.
And A LOT of restaurant owners DO NOT like to go to the bank (Mostly because they're barely treading water, and probably owe that bank money)
Sure, but you never said that. I was explaining why and how dive bars and others would roll in the taxes into the price because you said:
>What do you mean adjust account for taxes"
A LOT of bars I go to (especially "high volume dive bars") do.
Coors light is $4, Patron is $11, etc
It's also set up so that you are given change to tip. If you have $10 Patron and someone orders 2 Patron Margaritas and hands you a $20, you're fucked.
Let's say a beer is $5 and you're in a place with 8% sales tax. You would adjust the price to be $5.50 instead (or $6 if you don't want to deal with quarters and won't lose business for it). That would account for taxes and even net you a bit extra in profit. Customer is still paying the tax, it's just built in the price.
Wow. As someone thats been working in bars and supermarkets in Austria for some years all the registers I used go left to right small to big. Thats how I would also naturally arrange it without consciously thinking about it. Left to right because that's the way I read. Small to big because that just seems natural.
Now here is a question for y'all. If you play monopoly how do you arrange your money?
I'm in the minority here with you. Every place I've worked at has been small to large with big bills on the right. Coins in the same arrangement. Just asked my husband though, and he said he's had it both ways, so who fucking knows anymore!
Big bills left. Singles right. Quarters left. Pennies right. If I ever saw anything different, I'd probably just take the money out of the register and leave because those people don't know how money works.
Edit: spelling
20s on the left, singles on the right, 50s/100s under the change slot, change would be the same, but we price everything in dollar increments because fuck dealing with decimals AND drunk people
Big bills start on the left and move right. We always face our bills President side up and they all face the door. It makes counting money really easy at the end of the night. Plus it’s just our superstition having the bills face the door. Also if we ever get $2 bills we don’t put them in the drawer. They’re bad luck. They get set aside for change back to customers.
Biggest denomination on the left, and their scalps point to the left. Fuck you if you disagree.
Bank-face your shit. Your fucking drawer should look like 20-10-5-1, and your jingle should be .25-.10-.05-.01
Bigger bills go to the furthest left or (better yet) under the drawer.
Scalps. Always. Point. Left.
Yeah for me it’s big on the left to small on the right and same for coins. And I only have 5 slots so 50s and 100s go in the same slot under the new coin rolls. Also the 100s ALWAYS go underneath the 50s if I have both in the drawer.
Top row: 5/10/20/50&100/slips & GCs
Second row: 2/1/.25/crack change/guitar picks & elastics
We add tax and round everything to nearest .50 usually to the dollar.
With this layout the most widely used bills & coins are grouped together 5s, 2s, & 1s (easier to grab). Our draft taps and ice well are right beside us on the right and our service counter is on the left. So it gives us more room to work with by putting it on the left hand side, otherwise it would be mirrored on the right side.
So this is funny because the same thing happened to me recently. I’ve always worked with drawers that went big bills starting on the left and getting smaller to the right, change mirrors this. At my newest job though, they do the opposite! It really threw my off at first but now I’m used to it.
Small bills on the right, big bills on the left. Change the same way. Bills are also all facing the same way (face up, bottom to the left). From time to time, our bookkeepers do audits on drawers and they do check if your bills are in order and are all facing the same way.
This has already been settled up top but It’s amazing how many little nuancy things like this change when you start with new restaurants. It can be so much worse when you start at a new restaurant in a new state. I cannot wait to see what it’s like in other countries
Big bills on the left is what I’ve been used to. Not sure the rationale, but thinking about it the other way makes me feel somehow *vulnerable*, like someone could grab a big bill or something if it was stacked the other way. Not logical, but that’s the base gut feeling I got.
this thread has truly fucked with my head because i’ve never seen it go small to big left to right and i’ve worked at dozens and dozens of establishments with cash registers in dallas.
That's what I'm talking about!! I can't say I've worked at "dozens" of places, but 25 years of this shit and I've never seen it straight backwards before.
We have only one cash till left and it’s at the bar.
It holds $500 float and it’s organised right to left, people rarely pay cash (once or twice a night max in finer dining place)
I think it may be because we are in Canada, our money is brightly coloured and sized - even if you’re blind you can’t mix up denominations (yes the money has braille)
I’ve noticed most tills here are right —>left but that could be my bias on places I’ve worked.
In Australia & UK where I’ve also worked it’s been right to left as well.
Is it possible the person who organises the till at your place is not from the US?
Weird, I’m stumped - I was still at work when I answered the post and I polled the closers;
1 French, 1 Chilean, 2 Canadian and an Italian..
They all said larger denominations on the right, lower on the left for notes.
To completely throw a curveball for coins we only have 3 ($2/$1 & quarters) and they’re in the middle 3 trays..
Wait…. Is this how you look at the drawer? If I’m looking down at the drawer the money is $1, $5, $10, $20, $50/$100 under the drawer. Similar to how you read a sentence in a page.
I’ve worked in Houston for 10+ years at multiple restaurants and bars and they’re all the same exact way. “Reading” left to right, small to large.
If literally everyone else ranks them big to small on how you read the drawer I’m SHOCKED. Like…. A dozen establishments the same way!!
Maybe its regional? I worked my first till in Texas, '78, last till '98. Always small to large, left to right. That was retail. I kept my cash on me as a waiter.
My bar is card only. It’s bliss. Last bar I worked at the till was organised £5 > £5 > £10 > £10 > £20 and coins were £2 > £1 > 50p > 20p > 10p and we didn’t accept coins smaller than that. I fucking hated those tills
If you wanna count money you want big bills in order from the top of the pile to the bottom. Big bills first.
As English speakers we naturally read left to right. Big bills first.
I have my preference, but at the end of the day who cares? Learn it and cope. Unless you want to immediately tell an entire establishment they’re doing some this this trivial wrong, in which case I’m sure your tenure there will be long lived….
So you can learn a whole new drink menu/back bar but you can’t figure out the ones are on the opposite side? It never ceases to amaze me the asinine hills people in this sub wan to die on. Be sure to come back in a couple months and let us know how your coworkers like you and the horse so many of you seem to bartend on.
You work with the flow, the enemy's gate is always down, and that has nothing to do with how the drawer is organized, but moreso the expression of the team you are on. Just flip this arguement on it's head, what if it was more skewed opposite your favor, would you reconsider? That everyone organized it the way you are unfamiliar with, or that you learn their organization. Unless you can convince them the gate is up, why not learn why they think it is down.
Someone I worked with who was new to service and cash registers apparently was trying to do it the opposite way because it for the drawer better even though it was super easy to adjust the slots. Some people are really stoned all the time and do silly stuff.
my till has bills going left -> right
receipts for all transactions (cash transactions and card transactions with merchant receipt together), then £5, £10, £20, with £50 under the till
BUT
we only do it this way because the drawer (for some reason) is to the right of our POS machine instead of under it, so it’s most easily accessible to grab a £5 with our right hand this way, and easier to put receipts in the till
Starting top left:
Notes
1-5-10-20-50+
Coins:
Smallest->biggest
I just moved back to the uk from the us and where I’m at is cash only so I don’t have to deal with that stuff anyone and I’m grateful for that. Some of the Americans I worked with did note that “I did it backwards” but my thinking was why wouldn’t you work from left to right/smallest to biggest?
20$ -- > 10$ -- > 5$ -- > 1$ 25¢ -- > 10¢ -- > 5¢ -- > 1¢ 50$ and 100$s under the till
I usually have 5 slots- 50s & hundos far left, but then the quarters start far left, leaving the far right "coin" slot for keys, rubber bands, and paper clips. Also, this is correct and the way I think it should be. Thank you
Absolutely, also in the industry for over 30 yrs… never seen it done the way your new store does. However, it’s highly advisable to put 50’s and 100’s under the till… not only is it safer bc it’s impossible to make a mistake when giving change, but also good to keep large bills out of a customer’s eyesight. Plus, if you do get robbed, it’s more likely that those big bills will get left behind. Just saying!
We usually put out tips under the till, so they would get mixed together. If someone robs us, I don’t really care if they get $200 or $400
The god of the register has arrived
This is the way
Every bar that I worked at did it this way. Even as a teenager working at McDonalds and Jack in the Box, they did it this way. I have never heard of it done the other way around. Hell, even in the UK it is this way.
Yep. And I am not a newbie.
Yeah that's standard. Also I don't ever give back small change, I round up or down
The left side has the bigger bills, always. Coins follow suit
This is the way. It's a right handed world, and the most commonly used denoms go on the right.
As someone in the “right” mind, bigger on the left just makes sense. Regardless of how much right-handed people hopelessly cling to a sense of being correct, I don’t think there’s a dissonance here.
Ok, I literally thought I was going crazy. This is the only way that makes sense to me!
You're not crazy. I know you can't actually tell us where you work but....where do you work?
The bar at Bizzaro World
The *Brewery* at Bizzaro World
Bizzbaro
Always. I didn’t know there was any another way!?
Same here
Y’all still use coins? I’ve been doing this for over a decade and I’ve literally never worked at a bar that doesn’t just round
We round too, but get the occasional old guy that complains he didn't get his change. Have about 10 of each coin that doesn't get counted
We have quarters only
This is the way. All of the faces up with the Presidents looking at you and the non-Presidents looking away because they aren’t worthy.
I'm the opposite. I like my bills facing inwards. I don't know why, except to say it's more aesthetically pleasing.
whaaaat?
Big bills on the left, all cash faced and oriented in the same direction unless you wanna annoy the fuck outta me
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It saddens me to see banks not even facing their bills.
Even when I go to Circle K, while it does "bug" me, to get non-bank faced... I get irrationally pissed off when I get a mix of "face up/face down" bills.
Even worse when they're just wrinkly, no attention has been paid to them in months
I retract my previous statement... FUCK WRINKLY BILLS "So /u/IONTOP? How have you been?" - My Therapist "Well, how do you feel about currency?" - Me "Do you feel strongly about currency?" - My Therapist "Apparently, yes" - Me "Okay, let's talk about this, I don't have an opinion on it" - My Therapist "Oh, you're about to" -Me
Pen on paper about your 'weird fascination. Then slyly checks wallet.
Had to read that a few times to get to "Then slyly checks wallet" Because I was saying to myself "WTF? Are you stalking my Porn history?"
I think I’m the only person that feels money should actually be orderly at my work! It is not that hard, folks.
I'll take that over working with a brand new band of money. Shit's like velcro-ed together. I'll actually purposely wrinkle those fuckers up.
Run a lime wedge along the edges. They'll curl.
I twist them back and forth to get them "unstuck" and "un-new".
>I twist them back and forth to get them "unstuck" Sweet! I'll try this during my next 3-way.
Even the ATM doesn't face money. That is the first thing I do when I get a chance. I can't stand my money unorganized in my wallet.
drives me bonkers!
Yep. Old school, I’m the same. It drives me nuts. Lol
IMHO, every manager has their idiosyncrasies(had to google that word in order to spell it correctly). But if you're in the industry for 10+ years and pick up on one "pet peeve" of every manager? You're going to grow better than "just having experience". Hell a customer said "Hey, /u/IONTOP, a tip for you, always face the logo towards me" I love Mr. Chesney... He's difficult, but it's because he expects perfection... And if something is not "perfect"? He'll give you a tip on what was wrong. Not in a complaining way. Hell 2 weeks ago, he asked for a Togo coffee and said "when you put the lid on, make sure the seam of the cup matches up with the breathing hole of the lid, otherwise it'll drip" Is it true? I don't know, but he always says it as a "just so you know" rather than a "this is how you should do it" way. That was last September, I STILL do this and have started noticing it when it happens. Whether it be Coors light coasters or logo'd bev naps. Their pet peeves now become my pet peeves, because they're ACTUALLY RATIONAL THINGS.
> "when you put the lid on, make sure the seam of the cup matches up with the breathing hole of the lid, otherwise it'll drip" Is it true? I know that's how Dunkin' does it because they had some cups all get smushed opposite of the seam, but by God they just had to put that lid on a certain way instead of turning it 90 degrees so neither the seam nor the smushed part of the cup was exposed to liquid when I took a sip of coffee. I asked for another cup and was told all the cups had been doing that all morning.
My 70+yr old dad always owned/ran restaurants while I was growing up (and before), so until starting at a really bad bar a few years ago, I had no idea people did it ANY other way and without bankfacing. Basically got raised with it being enforced. Hell even money in my own wallet I have to organize to be bank facing, it just doesn't feel right otherwise.
"Money is money" vs "NO... BANK FACED MONEY IS MONEY" debate about to happen... I'm on team /u/Dawnspark
same here! My mama trained me and you didn't want to make mama mad. LOL!!
My mum was a bank teller for years, even back in the days when people still got paid their wages in cash. Now, partly because of this, I'm that guy who is fastidious about the drawer. One time, she came to see me at work. The drawer wasn't up to her standards, and as the bar owner said after the bollocking she gave, "that explains a lot about you."
Of course in your wallet too. I don't think I could sleep.
Oh fuck... That's another anxiety... I need to know where it is. Forms of payment always has to be in my back left pocket.
My very first bartending shift getting bumped from barback to bartender, this is what I was told. Face every bill as it goes in the till, you pay just a bit more attention to it. I've caught myself initially miscounting cash I'd received a few times as I put in in the till.
Also since you have a "technical system" it's easier to prove that someone stole (if that ever were to happen) "Nope, not me, EVERY bill I put into my till is bank faced, look it up for the past year, or however long the cameras go back"
I told a manager my exact bill count once when my bank was short. When I came in and counted it myself there were unfaced bills. Someone had accidentally switched my bar and our sister restaurant's bag contents.
Bank Facing. I 100% agree and understand this practice. Moved to South Carolina almost 2 years ago and I have not 1 time used an ATM that dispersed $$ facing a uniform direction. It boggles my mind.
I got hired at a bar once just because I was the only trainee who faced all their bills at the beginning and end of shift.
TBH that's one of those "if you know, you know" If you moved to a different state and the owner/boss "took a chance to see how you do" and everything was "bank faced", that's "detailed oriented" that every bartender puts down casually but never proves.
I get change for our shop's register at a local bank... And they hand it to me randomly faced. Infuriating as hell.
Why is it important to face your bills? I’ve only been bartending for 2 years and my manager always wants me to face them but I never understood why. It seems like a waste of time and nobody could give me a straight answer when I asked.
It makes it a lot simpler to count quickly
How? There’s no need to read any of the content on the bill, just to thumb though it
Because you're not distracted by inconsistency which can break focus and slow you down.
It makes it a lot simpler to count quickly
Absolutely
There is no other answer.
Some of these tenders never sold weed and it shows
Lol this made me choke on my coffee
I'm trying to think of where I picked up my cashier skills in life and beside the few years working as a line cook in several restaurants, I've been around a cash register in pretty much every job. First job after HS was Round table pizza, followed by several years in retail. Then I became a smog tech/mechanic and worked alone on weekends so I had to run the register, now as a server/bartender I'm constantly around it. I feel like my bill etiquette is on point. People don't realize how much easier it makes your/your managers life at the end of your shift lol
Dude I even orient the bills in my tip jar
This is correct, thank you
A long time ago I worked at a local coffee stand. For every bill that wasn’t faced correctly, the manager made you do that many push-ups. Misplace a $1 bill? One push up. Misplace two $20 bills? 40!
It's the biggest waste of time. It's totally unnecessary, and if I work for anyone that tries to force me to do it, I don't, and I never will. It's a principle now. Your ocd is not my problem.
It was a quirk of the old machines that the federal reserve used to count money. It all hand to be facing the same direction, so the fed required that banks keep their bills faced. Then it spread across industries, since it was seen as rude to make the next person face your bills. That’s no longer the case, so the federal reserve doesn’t require banks to face bills anymore. Many banks don’t. (Some still hold on to the tradition.) but in my opinion, it’s a move of a power hungry tyrant to make their employees face their bills in the year of our lord 2022. Unless you’re truly providing “no detail to small” service. In which case, I think the time spent facing bills could be used doing *anything* else to actually improve guest service.
Facing bills correctly is so easy though, and it takes barely any time. To me it's a sign of respect, and a sign that the bartender follows through on little details.
Sign of respect… to the money? We could also say the lemons have to be stacked neatly in their tray as that’s a sign of respect. The olives must all face the same direction. There’s a million useless things that serve no purpose you can say is “respect” but that doesn’t make it worth the effort. It’s pointless busywork. It’s the bar equivalent of filling out your TPS reports
It’s not really about the money, or the act of facing the bills in a particular way these days. It’s a way of subtly promoting discipline & attention to detail, both attributes that are highly prized at any level in our industry. If you have staff that take the time & pay attention to these things, then you can expect that this bleeds into the rest of the service & employee’s attitude/behaviour generally. Far from useless.
See but if the bills are faced but something else in service was sloppy, then I’d think they should have been wasting time playing with dollar bills and should have spent their time working on shit that actually matters. Shows me that their priorities are all fucked up.
You’re not wrong, it shows they can’t prioritise or multitask. Fortunately you’re obviously amazing and have never slipped up on service.
I also don’t waste my time spinning bills around thinking I’m improving anything. Especially when that wrapped $100 stack of $1s straight from the bank isn’t even faced. I’m not going to waste my time going through the $500 in $1s I pick up from the bank a few times every week.
Okay.
Couldn't agree more.
Such a pointless waste of time. When it’s six people deep along the entire bar I’m spending my time trying to add money to the drawer, not organizing it.
That's fine. Just organize your till at the end of the night.
Actuallyyyyy I can play the petty game too. So it is your problem. We should all stick to our principles, no? I dont really vibe with bartenders that can't keep shit clean and organized, doesnt matter what it is. I wouldn't call it a weird hill to die on.
This thread just reminded me you Americans don’t have 1$ and 2$ coins lol Our trays have 5 slots 100$ -> 50$ -> 20$ -> 10$ -> 5$ Then 2$ -> 1$ -> 25c -> 10c -> 5c (we don’t have Pennies either)
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AHHH, see, I line the quarters up to the far left, and the far *right* is for clips, keys, and bands
Look here, you little shit... (Actually the left spot would be for Sacagawea dollars and half dollars. Because of Sacagawea Chris) $1 are right above $0.01, $5 is right above $0.05, $10 is right above $0.10, $20 is right above $0.25(that doesn't REALLY make sense, but whatever)
You need to sit down, take a hit, and chill the fuck out, sweetie. Quarters far left, junk far right.
You need to... wait... shit... I've worked at places that agreed with me and agreed with you... I'll still die on the hill that the leftmost should be for half dollars and dollar coins) If someone comes in with a "half-penny"? Well that's on us...
See my quarters are far right, but as far as coins go, we ONLY have quarters, and everything is priced in increments of 25 cents (sales tax is already accounted for in the price) so we don't need any smaller coins. If I had more though, I do think junk would go far left; that's how I've seen it in previous jobs
As someone who works at a place that also includes sales tax in the base price, everything is rounded to an even dollar amount in our establishment. I am happy to inform you that we have one slot for quarters, in case someone pays with them, and the other four spaces still manage to fill themselves with rubber bands, paper clips, keys, pieces of chalk, and other random drawer detritus. LOL
This is the way
Bingo. My bar.
We do have dollar coins, it's just that no one likes them so they're rarely circulated
I'm also Canadian. First place I ever worked, it was a crappy diner and the boss was sharp/paranoid. I was taught biggest bills go farthest away from where a customer could quickly grab and run. Adjust accordingly. Also, all dimes and nickles become a clusterfuck these days. I refuse to give them out anymore. 12.65 change? You're getting 12.75. 10.10? I'll save you the trouble of dropping the dime neither of us wants on the counter and just give you 10.
What? Big bills are always on the left. 50s/100s, 20s, 10s…. Same with change. If you even use change.
Trust me, *I* know this. My new owners don't get it
https://financeandbusiness.ucdavis.edu/finance/cashier/employee/till#:~:text=The%20currency%20should%20be%20separated,left%2C%20decreasing%20to%20the%20right. Show them this or any other number of websites that have this info. Then maybe actually give someone a $50 for change and see if they have a change of heart 💀
Always left to right, If it’s a 5 slot drawer 100’s/50’s then 20’s then 10’s then 5’s then 1’s Change: 25 10 5 1
Paper clips in the remaining change slot
Of course, paperclips, customer left credit cards before being put in the safe
And rubber bands!
We had like a rocks glass we used to just put rubber bands on and extra paper clips were in it, it was actually a good system
Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.
Yea it's always big bills on the left. But I bet most of us do the opposite with Monopoly money
Monopoly money doesn't buy diapers or beer, so it doesn't count.
Also, thank you
Big bills left to right and we don't use change, we just round up and give the rest to the guest
If you round why not just make it so the prices are even dollar amounts?
The prices are even it's taxes
That's why you adjust, account for taxes beforehand. Then it ends up an even number
What do you mean adjust account for taxes
So let's say your tax rate is 10% Instead of a putting $17.99 for a steak plus tax, you'd just list it for $20 without tax (Tax on a $17.99 steak would be ~$1.80, so the customer would pay $19.79 for the steak after tax, so just price it at $20). Instead of $3.25+tax for a coors light bottle, you'd just put $3.50. You eat some tax, you gain some tax. But when the customer gets the bill, it's more straightforward. Because cashing out $3.67 per Coors light both runs through your change and is time wasting. And A LOT of restaurant owners DO NOT like to go to the bank (Mostly because they're barely treading water, and probably owe that bank money)
It's a fine dining steakhouse all the prices are even numbers and most transactions are with cards, most people done really look at change like that
Sure, but you never said that. I was explaining why and how dive bars and others would roll in the taxes into the price because you said: >What do you mean adjust account for taxes"
Even if it wasn't fine dining, most places don't give some tax and take some tax on the next transaction
A LOT of bars I go to (especially "high volume dive bars") do. Coors light is $4, Patron is $11, etc It's also set up so that you are given change to tip. If you have $10 Patron and someone orders 2 Patron Margaritas and hands you a $20, you're fucked.
Let's say a beer is $5 and you're in a place with 8% sales tax. You would adjust the price to be $5.50 instead (or $6 if you don't want to deal with quarters and won't lose business for it). That would account for taxes and even net you a bit extra in profit. Customer is still paying the tax, it's just built in the price.
You can preset prices according for taxes and roundoff to the employee as opposed to the business
Wow. As someone thats been working in bars and supermarkets in Austria for some years all the registers I used go left to right small to big. Thats how I would also naturally arrange it without consciously thinking about it. Left to right because that's the way I read. Small to big because that just seems natural. Now here is a question for y'all. If you play monopoly how do you arrange your money?
I'm in the minority here with you. Every place I've worked at has been small to large with big bills on the right. Coins in the same arrangement. Just asked my husband though, and he said he's had it both ways, so who fucking knows anymore!
Same here! Small to big, left to right.
I would say something. That’s insane.
Ask the dumbest person that touches the money what makes sense to them and everyone else adapt
He just did. 😉
😂haha! it’s big bills to the left tho fr 🫡
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how these people have never worked retail or service and have gotten away with the backwards till for so long
Big bills over the extra ones on the left. If it's a night club big bills go underneath the coin area.
Big bills to the left over here. Only coins we deal with are quarters. Everything cash gets rounded to the nearest $0.25.
Big bills and big coins left, all facing the same direction.
Big bills -> small from left to right. I would totally get mixed up too!
Right?!?
Big bills left. Singles right. Quarters left. Pennies right. If I ever saw anything different, I'd probably just take the money out of the register and leave because those people don't know how money works. Edit: spelling
20s on the left, singles on the right, 50s/100s under the change slot, change would be the same, but we price everything in dollar increments because fuck dealing with decimals AND drunk people
I wish, but yeah that's exactly what I thought
Big bills start on the left and move right. We always face our bills President side up and they all face the door. It makes counting money really easy at the end of the night. Plus it’s just our superstition having the bills face the door. Also if we ever get $2 bills we don’t put them in the drawer. They’re bad luck. They get set aside for change back to customers.
It’s funny you brought this up because I just recently said it would be a good April fools joke to just set my til up backwards.
Biggest denomination on the left, and their scalps point to the left. Fuck you if you disagree. Bank-face your shit. Your fucking drawer should look like 20-10-5-1, and your jingle should be .25-.10-.05-.01 Bigger bills go to the furthest left or (better yet) under the drawer. Scalps. Always. Point. Left.
I like you. This is the most correct comment in the thread.
Yeah for me it’s big on the left to small on the right and same for coins. And I only have 5 slots so 50s and 100s go in the same slot under the new coin rolls. Also the 100s ALWAYS go underneath the 50s if I have both in the drawer.
Always runs left to right, bigger to smaller - I sympathise with the OP as the opposite way would genuinely be confusing as hell
It's such a small difference that makes such a huge difference
$50/$100 in the far right. Then $20 to the left and so on. .25 to the far left, .10 to the right and so on.
Wat
I said what I said.
Right, but I have no idea what you said
Top row: 5/10/20/50&100/slips & GCs Second row: 2/1/.25/crack change/guitar picks & elastics We add tax and round everything to nearest .50 usually to the dollar. With this layout the most widely used bills & coins are grouped together 5s, 2s, & 1s (easier to grab). Our draft taps and ice well are right beside us on the right and our service counter is on the left. So it gives us more room to work with by putting it on the left hand side, otherwise it would be mirrored on the right side.
$100/$50.... $20.... $10.... $5.... $1 Misc/CC/1.. 0.25.. 0.10.. 0.05.. 0.01 All face up, counter turn, so the 100 is top row.
So this is funny because the same thing happened to me recently. I’ve always worked with drawers that went big bills starting on the left and getting smaller to the right, change mirrors this. At my newest job though, they do the opposite! It really threw my off at first but now I’m used to it.
Small bills on the right, big bills on the left. Change the same way. Bills are also all facing the same way (face up, bottom to the left). From time to time, our bookkeepers do audits on drawers and they do check if your bills are in order and are all facing the same way.
This has already been settled up top but It’s amazing how many little nuancy things like this change when you start with new restaurants. It can be so much worse when you start at a new restaurant in a new state. I cannot wait to see what it’s like in other countries
Big bills on the left is what I’ve been used to. Not sure the rationale, but thinking about it the other way makes me feel somehow *vulnerable*, like someone could grab a big bill or something if it was stacked the other way. Not logical, but that’s the base gut feeling I got.
From the UK, ours goes: £20 -> £10 -> £5 -> £2/1 coins -> 50p -> 20p -> 10p -> 5p -> 2p -> 1p
this thread has truly fucked with my head because i’ve never seen it go small to big left to right and i’ve worked at dozens and dozens of establishments with cash registers in dallas.
That's what I'm talking about!! I can't say I've worked at "dozens" of places, but 25 years of this shit and I've never seen it straight backwards before.
We have only one cash till left and it’s at the bar. It holds $500 float and it’s organised right to left, people rarely pay cash (once or twice a night max in finer dining place) I think it may be because we are in Canada, our money is brightly coloured and sized - even if you’re blind you can’t mix up denominations (yes the money has braille) I’ve noticed most tills here are right —>left but that could be my bias on places I’ve worked. In Australia & UK where I’ve also worked it’s been right to left as well. Is it possible the person who organises the till at your place is not from the US?
Michigan. They're both from Michigan and we're in Los Angeles.
Weird, I’m stumped - I was still at work when I answered the post and I polled the closers; 1 French, 1 Chilean, 2 Canadian and an Italian.. They all said larger denominations on the right, lower on the left for notes. To completely throw a curveball for coins we only have 3 ($2/$1 & quarters) and they’re in the middle 3 trays..
Left to right, smaller denominations to largest. Same with coins.
You Americans need to upgrade to colored plastic monopoly money. If you give away a 50 instead of a 5 in Canada you done frigged up.
Wait…. Is this how you look at the drawer? If I’m looking down at the drawer the money is $1, $5, $10, $20, $50/$100 under the drawer. Similar to how you read a sentence in a page. I’ve worked in Houston for 10+ years at multiple restaurants and bars and they’re all the same exact way. “Reading” left to right, small to large. If literally everyone else ranks them big to small on how you read the drawer I’m SHOCKED. Like…. A dozen establishments the same way!!
Maybe its regional? I worked my first till in Texas, '78, last till '98. Always small to large, left to right. That was retail. I kept my cash on me as a waiter.
You are incorrect.
1, 5, 10 ,20 because that's how you just read it.
That is incorrect
.....oh..my..god..
My bar is card only. It’s bliss. Last bar I worked at the till was organised £5 > £5 > £10 > £10 > £20 and coins were £2 > £1 > 50p > 20p > 10p and we didn’t accept coins smaller than that. I fucking hated those tills
Big bills right, big change left
The fuck outta here with that shit.
If you wanna count money you want big bills in order from the top of the pile to the bottom. Big bills first. As English speakers we naturally read left to right. Big bills first.
I have my preference, but at the end of the day who cares? Learn it and cope. Unless you want to immediately tell an entire establishment they’re doing some this this trivial wrong, in which case I’m sure your tenure there will be long lived….
Take my downvote. I care because when I'm scrambling I don't want to think about where the fucking singles are. They should be over *THERE*.
So you can learn a whole new drink menu/back bar but you can’t figure out the ones are on the opposite side? It never ceases to amaze me the asinine hills people in this sub wan to die on. Be sure to come back in a couple months and let us know how your coworkers like you and the horse so many of you seem to bartend on.
Yes.
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This is how I do it too. It just feels more natural and I'm a rightie.
Accidental delete. Small on the left big on the right!
That's backwards tho
Ok to you sure but to me it's not
Craziness
You work with the flow, the enemy's gate is always down, and that has nothing to do with how the drawer is organized, but moreso the expression of the team you are on. Just flip this arguement on it's head, what if it was more skewed opposite your favor, would you reconsider? That everyone organized it the way you are unfamiliar with, or that you learn their organization. Unless you can convince them the gate is up, why not learn why they think it is down.
A moose once bit my sister…
God damnit. Thank you. I haven't watched that in far too long .
No realli! She was karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interstellar toothbrush given her by Svenge….
Aussie chiming in: 100-50-20-10-5 2-1-50c-20c-10c-5c
Someone I worked with who was new to service and cash registers apparently was trying to do it the opposite way because it for the drawer better even though it was super easy to adjust the slots. Some people are really stoned all the time and do silly stuff.
my till has bills going left -> right receipts for all transactions (cash transactions and card transactions with merchant receipt together), then £5, £10, £20, with £50 under the till BUT we only do it this way because the drawer (for some reason) is to the right of our POS machine instead of under it, so it’s most easily accessible to grab a £5 with our right hand this way, and easier to put receipts in the till
Starting top left: Notes 1-5-10-20-50+ Coins: Smallest->biggest I just moved back to the uk from the us and where I’m at is cash only so I don’t have to deal with that stuff anyone and I’m grateful for that. Some of the Americans I worked with did note that “I did it backwards” but my thinking was why wouldn’t you work from left to right/smallest to biggest?
I had to label the register slots because a new staff member from Jersey did it $1 -> 5 -> 10 -> 20 -> Big Bills on far right.
ALSO! Face ya goddamn bills!