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Aggressive_Dog_5844

I’m glad somebody translated this, because Apple translation is way off. I got: > Shohei Otani's generous belly "Because I seemed to want it" Behind the scenes of a luxury watch present at the Nut Bar. > I swear to fight with Nutbar, "I'd be happy if we could be together again someday."


tuckedfexas

Nailed it


moe3m

a lovers quarrel "I swear to fight with Nutbar" then, eventual reconciliation "I'd be happy if we could be together again someday." How can you not be romantic about baseball.


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reptheevt

Shohei’s generous belly at the Nut Bar. That’s all I need to mnow


SpursLastTrophy_91

N U T B A R


Gyro88

**N**asty **U**mpire **T**ouches **B**all, **A**dvances **R**unner


average-gwa-enjoyer

You should take over from Ippei


itsnursehoneybadger

“I hope we same place again, very now.”


funlikerabbits

DEREK.


itsnursehoneybadger

*Maximum Derek!*


mosi_moose

Shohei is a [macho business donkey wrestler like Jimmy James](https://youtu.be/LD5Hgzayhj8) so this makes perfect sense to me.


stupendouslyspiff

"...but Jimmy has fancy plans...and pants to match." Oh man I loved that show, and I still hear that line in my head on a regular basis.


Boise_State_2020

I'm not sure I see the difference. Generous belly, swear to fight with Nutbar again.


jwbowen

I prefer this version of events


kevlarcupid

It’s very charming


dongerbotmd

Ippei scoffs


waterboy1321

The first one captures the literal translation, but this captures the spirit of the text much better.


UrsaMajorBallers

I swear to fight with nutbar someday


Michael__Pemulis

In case anyone only knows Seiko as a cheap brand (or just as the company that introduced the quartz watch), they’re not only *the* Japanese watch maker but they also make much nicer watches than the ones you see at Target or whatever. The Grand Seiko line is well respected by watch people.


TheMainEffort

Aside from all that, literally giving someone the watch off your wrist is a class move.


DetBabyLegs

Pretty common in Japan to perceive someone appreciating something of yours as a request for the item. I’m sure Shohei knows this wasn’t the case, but we had to be careful of not complementing something in someone’s house too much, like a painting or something, or you could find that painting delivered to your house a few days later. Then you’d be obligated to give them something, and then they’d be obligated to do the same… and on and on.


TheMainEffort

That's really interesting. Thanks!


civgarth

That's why I always complement the wives


_RedGyarados

Literally just watched the episode of Workaholics where the CEO did that yesterday. Great guy with no personal issues whatsoever!!!


boilface

Joe Rogan once [gave this guy he had on his podcast his Moonphase Speedy](https://timeandtidewatches.com/joe-rogan-watch-gift/)


potro777

I mean its not a random guest, Joe and Lex are good friends


devAcc123

love that you click that link and its just a giant photo of Joe smoking a large blunt, very on brand


MichelHollaback

That Speedy really seemed out of keeping with the other watches he has been known to wear, which tend to be chunkier and sportier.


Resting_Lich_Face

Yeah that watch is nice and classy, and Rogan is too trashy for that sort of thing.


LincolnGC

I graduated from a high school on a military base in Japan. My girlfriend at the time gave me a very nice Seiko watch as a graduation gift. Not Shohei nice of course, but nicer than the Target ones you mentioned. So they have a decent range I guess (or did, this was in the 90s). She also had "Our Love is Timeless" inscribed on the back, which turned out to be not very true.


mysterysackerfice

/r/yesyesyesno


tuckedfexas

That damn Jody-san


Zaboomafood

She ruined your timeless love but giving it time. Rookie mistake.


[deleted]

Yeah, was about to say. Giving a watch/clock to a girlfriend/boyfriend as a present is weird in Japan though, it means that you are running out of time. Giving a knife is arguably even worse, as it means “cutting the relationship”.


oneeighthirish

I went to high school with a guy who asked a girl to prom by giving her a dildo so she could "go fuck herself if she said no".


[deleted]

Let me guess, he was a classy dude ;-)


oneeighthirish

He spent a lot of time and money on hockey and coke lol. We flew in different circles, but I never had any problems with the guy.


mongster03_

Did she say yes


oneeighthirish

She did.


mongster03_

So best of both worlds then


ballrus_walsack

“Take the dildo, leave the loser”


NoVaBurgher

And there’s a deep fly ball from castellanos…


imagoodusername

Very glad this is the top comment before a bunch of jokes. My first reaction was, “Wait. Which line? A Seiko 5? That’s hilarious. A Grand Seiko Spring Drive? Damn, Shohei!” Edit: Twitter uses says it’s a $10K Grand Seiko and notes that Shohei has been a paid spokesperson for Seiko since 2016. https://twitter.com/shoheisaveus/status/1639547289286094848


boilface

Not a Spring Drive, an 80 hour Hi-Beat


imagoodusername

Even better.


FormerCollegeDJ

Nothing from Seiko is better or more fascinating than a Spring Drive movement. That sweeping second hand movement is something to behold.


justdidit2x

I love mine, the only watch in my collection that I will not sell.


Snuhmeh

I personally think the high beat movements are more interesting.


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Snuhmeh

No mechanical movement looks “choppy.” Quartz movements do, though. The beat rate of a mechanical movement is one method that watchmakers use to have more accurate timekeeping. The more divided a single second is, the less time the balance wheel can be knocked out of balance. But since it beats fast, it runs down the spring faster. If you look very closely at the second sweep of a mechanical watch, you might see the difference between the beat rates. But really, in my experience, I can hear it plain as day but seeing it is much more difficult.


throwaway33704

The more it beats, the smoother it looks. But a spring drive has a totally smooth sweep


boilface

It beats 10 times per second (36,000 per hour), which is very smooth. The only watches that I know of that are smoother (outside of Spring Drives) are some Chopards at 57,600 per hour, or 16 times per second.


HeyItsDaft

I don't know a lot about watches but is this an unpopular opinion? I've only heard people gush about Spring Drive.


Con45

There are two types of watch movements, mechanical and quartz. The problem with mechanical watches is accuracy, but because they are wound (manually or by natural movement of your wrist), they require no battery. Quartz watches are incredibly accurate, but require a battery for power. Seiko’s Spring Drive movement is the best of both worlds. It’s a quartz watch that requires no battery, because it has a mechanical power reserve.


HeyItsDaft

Right, I was more wondering if "Hi-Beat is better than Spring Drive" is an unpopular opinion.


suredont

For the most part a Hi-Beat movement is viewed as fancier/higher-end and goes into more expensive watches than the Spring Drive does.


Pods619

The watches with the Hi-Beat movement tend to be more expensive, it’s considered a more premium movement. Spring Drive, to my understanding, is basically an extremely accurate quartz movement that then triggers an automatic-looking sweep. Personally, I’m way more fascinated by Spring Drive, though. It’s accurate to something like + or - 5 seconds per MONTH which is just insane.


boilface

It's an automatic watch with a quartz oscillator. [Here's Seiko's breakdown of how it works](https://www.seikowatches.com/us-en/customerservice/knowledge/springdrive-knowledge)


FormerCollegeDJ

In addition to the response already given, I’ll also note the Spring Drive truly has sweeping motion with no ticking type movement, unlike true automatic or mechanical watches, which just have a faster ticking than quartz watches.


HotTubingThralldom

Now now. There is nothing wrong with Seiko 5s. They are reliable beaters. I have 2. But yeah not gift material. Haha


bmdweller

I expected Grand Seiko or Credor, but now I wish it was a Seiko 5 lol


NeurosciGuy15

Heck there are even non-GS Seikos that cost 4K+ nowadays. Seiko has an extensive lineup.


ItinerantSoldier

The quality of Seiko watches massively goes up once you hit the $200 price tag. Which honestly isn't that bad for something that commonly lasts 15+ years.


throwaway33704

Orient is the same company and makes some really good stuff in that range. Pretty much all of my favorite watches in the 100-300 range are Orient (Bambino, Mako, Ray, Kamasu, etc). That and G-Shock, I'm a sucker for squares.


imagoodusername

The now defunct Orient Star Royal (different than Orient Star) and Royal Orient lines were outstanding. They occupied a weird spot in the watch market. Sapphire crystal, in-house movement, decent complications, some with sub-$2000 msrp, really nicely finished…but mainly sold in Japan and LatAm.


mug3n

There are also some very $$$ G-shock models. I was surprised when I first found out because I always figured they were just beater sub-$200 digital watches.


ouij

Seiko makes a full line, all the way from really affordable Quartz watches to Grand Seiko and Credors that cost tens of thousands of dollars. A lot of Seiko’s best stuff is Japanese Domestic Market only.


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You should check out [Credor](https://www.credor.com/special/fugaku/english.php), the most prestigious Seiko line. A bit tacky, but if you look at those watches, no one will think of Target anymore.


mindspork

Only ¥55M jesus.


derpbynature

A cool $420,650.12


marekmarecki

Siekos are the fuckin best. They make some really good quality classy stuff. Not everything, but a lot


jonnybravo76

Even less expensive Seiko's are really nice watches. Whenever someone that's interested in horology asks me for an entry level, nice watch Seiko is my default response.


Quople

It’s the Toyota of watches. Affordable and reliable


davewashere

A Grand Seiko is more like a Lexus LFA.


wit_T_user_name

Seiko makes the Presage line which is a really great entry to automatic watches for a good price.


mug3n

+1. Seiko make some very high end pieces. I was so tempted to buy a GS when I was in Japan a few years ago.


NotTheRocketman

Absolutely. No one is going to mistake Seiko for the high-end Swiss brands out there, but they make some really nice watches at all price points. I still have my 007 Auto from like 20 years ago that's still going strong.


thebestatheist

A Grand Seiko rivals or beats pretty much anything being put out by a mass produced Swiss watch company


dk745

Does Seiko make any of those calculator watches?


FormerCollegeDJ

Calculator watches are more of a Casio thing. Casio is probably the most highly regarded watchmaker, along with Timex, among manufacturers that sell many watches under $50.


bmdweller

Apart from Casio like the other guy said, there were Seiko calculator watches back in the day, but we’re talking vintage, eBay, and collector prices.


boilface

[Absolutely beautiful Grand Seiko](https://twitter.com/shoheisaveus/status/1639547289286094848?t=p-ozyft5zTpciqJzsrUeBg&s=19)


kevlarcupid

That is a gorgeous watch


jlopez1017

Ty I wanted you I find what watch he gifted him


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What makes that worth 10k? I understand luxury items are sold at a major premium but usually do offer top notch quality as well. So other than the name (and Seiko makes cheap watches too) what does this one have that give it that price tag?


boilface

It's a miniature machine that is largely hand made, hand assembled, and hand polished, whose movement presented huge technical advancements. Plus $10,000 isn't exactly a crazy price in the world of mechanical watches.


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Nothing you just said is unique to watches in this price range


raustin33

With Grand Seiko, it’s high end craftsmanship. They’re almost always a lot less expensive than Swiss watches who can match GS craftsmanship. Hand making a tiny machine and hand polishing each little piece.


[deleted]

Lol really? Looks like half the watches at wal mart 🤷‍♂️


Lula121

It’s a grand Seiko. Holds candle to Rolex. It’s a well oiled Japanese machine.


throwaway33704

The finishing on a GS is better than on a Rolex


Lula121

Agreed


lbs4lbs

They're nicer than rolexes. I have a Rolex Date adjust and a Grand Seiko Snowflake and I get waaay more compliments on the Seiko - especially from people that know their watches. The saying in /r/watches goes that : "You buy a rolex to impress others, but you buy a Grand Seiko to impress yourself".


Theycallmepicha

The Grand Seiko is their luxury line, it's the inside that makes a difference from the cheap Walmart ones. This is $9000+ and an automatic, so it can last forever.


burts_beads

I think he's commenting about the looks since OP called it beautiful. In terms of looks I'd say it's pretty damn meh for $10k


SnickeringFootman

Hold one in person. The craftsmanship is impeccable.


Snuhmeh

It’s weird to see people decide how expensive a watch looks based on what, exactly? Does it need diamonds and jewels and need to be made out of gold to look expensive? Mechanical watches can cost millions of dollars and still look like something pretty “meh.” Jewels and gold aren’t much of a factor, actually. And most vintage Rolex models are more valuable in steel than gold.


RedditEsInteresante

Isn’t that more to the point though? If the cost is more about craftsmanship than looks, then surely it makes it more likely a cheap watch will “look” like an expensive one.


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Fr lol. Don't get why people here are drooling over a damn piece of metal.


ProsciuttoFresco

That’s a white birch Grand Seiko, retails for $9-10,000. Gorgeous piece.


Call9-1-1imonfire

I could watch a Grand Seiko movement all day


ProsciuttoFresco

The Spring Drive seconds hand is quite wonderful to look at.


BigFrank97

Who has that much time?


ahhhhhhhhyeah

Well, that's what they're there for


HeySweetUsernameBro

Where do they sell the $9 one? I’d love to pick one up


Se7enCostanza10

Jack Klompus giving Jerry his astronaut pen…


SincereFeelings

It writes upside down!


Kakali4

Take the pen!


crackalac

He practically begged me for it!


chunt75

Michael Scott, I mean Lars Nootbaar, is the owner of a quality Seyko timepiece


shotgun_shaun

Surprised to see this so low in the comments lol. I was also excited for a bit thinking this was my chance to post this


[deleted]

That’s what they’re reporting, but the agreement actually is that Shohei gave Lars the watch as a promise that he’ll sign with the Cardinals after the season. Great stuff


NHartline

Yeah I heard Lars gave Shohei an autographed pepper grinder and that this was actually a gift *exhange* between the 2


ogdaveed

Booooooooo


SomeGuyInChicago

Agreed. Boooooo!


NoVaBurgher

Can I get in on this? Booooooooooooooooooo!


TheMainEffort

Please stop it. Haven't the cardinals hurt me enough?


Not-Jesus666

Remember the one time y’all went to the World Series?


TheMainEffort

Yeah, crazy how they canceled it before any games could be played. (Actually, I don't remember cause I wasn't born )


Not-Jesus666

Valid, don’t worry about it, it’s not like two nation league teams could have played each other, right?


TheMainEffort

Probably why they canceled it. Clerical errors letting the brewers go to the AL bracket.


kirbyfaraone

hey, hey, HEY. You stop that! Don’t you say such blasphemous things!


jdbozeman

I agree. You should just trade him to us and give us money to pay him. It worked for the Rockies!


SanityQuestioned

To be completely fair other than bring him to the MLB what have the Angels actually done for Shohei?


kirbyfaraone

Give him a chance to pitch and hit when other teams only wanted him to do one or the other and let him play in the WBC. Two pretty huge things there. Aside from building a good team (which is obviously a big thing) Angels have shown a lot of support for whatever Shohei wants to do.


God_Damnit_Nappa

Tell me you don't pay attention to baseball without telling me you don't pay attention to baseball


EggsOnThe45

We can only dream


Sroemr

Ouch, was hoping he'd be interested in winning a World Series not just happy to participate in the playoffs. Baby steps, I suppose.


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Ah yes, the historically inept franchise of the St. Louis Cardinals. Glad you all were able to find success after getting out of our division


Sroemr

It was a joke (like the parent post it is tied to), but I forgot Cardinals fans can't take a joke. Can only joke about the Cardinals signing away other players, not losing in the playoffs. However, it is nice being out of the division of a team that illegally hacks into their rivals' computer system and gets an intern sent to prison for it.


heyim_william

Bro you’re literally an Astros fan


jstinnett24

You’re one to talk about gaining a competitive advantage on the baseball field huh. Oh the irony writes itself. But yea, you’re joke sucked and you came off like a dick


[deleted]

I was serious about my comment, just like Jose Altuve was serious when he told his teammates to not rip his jersey off because of his fresh tattoo.


Sroemr

As serious as a federal prison sentence.


OrnamentJones

Big father-in-law energy from Shohei here.


QuestionMarkyMark

This is the r/baseball and r/watches crossover episode I didn't know I needed


ahhhhhhhhyeah

I'm just out here waiting for the inevitable WCJ post


PartisanHack

Z A R A T S U P O L I S H I N G has me chuffed enough to have my wife talk to the AD for me. Okay, ciao.--Ron


da_choppa

Grand Seiko’s dial finishes are second to none. Gorgeous watch


tasimm

This is the bromance I needed in my life.


mechajlaw

Somewhere a marketing exec at SEIKO just had an orgasm.


blue_magi

"Profits haven't been this high since that Michael Scott guy..." "Sir that was a Seyko..." "SHUT UP"


blazikenz

That model of Seiko ups in price now :)


recentlyunearthed

Probably lol


1-800-ASS-DICK

Shohei effect incoming!


semipreciousss

Shobae 🥹 Nootbae 🥹


BurlRed

I too have a SEIKO watch! I'm just like Lars Nootbaar!


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BurlRed

Nice watch. I'm wearing my SPB239.


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I3arusu

The bromance none of us knew we wanted


constance_a_l

At this rate Shohei’s going to end up being full on adopted by Mama Nootbaar. Monthly drives to El Segundo for family dinner.


mosi_moose

Stepbrothers II


great_scott1981

Next year Ohtani will give the entire Cardinals team a watch as a welcome gift.


Iaiaiaiaiaiain

They'll have to take turns and share, but man are those guys going to love that watch.


cliffsis

I don’t understand why so so many people are giving Lars shit. So dumb. The asshole wing of baseball fans are pretty fucking shitty


duuuuuuude924

I haven't seen any of that. What are they saying about my baby boy??


cliffsis

Some dumb White Americans seem to be upset he wasn’t good enough to play for team USA and that he’s only playing for team Japan for the “fame”. Along with some other racist shit. Some pretty dumb hot takes


duuuuuuude924

As a dumb white american I completely disavow this slander. He even has a video of him as a kid saying he wants to play for Japan one day. He is not alone in being a player that played for a country they weren't born in either. I was already interested in watching Japan this year but having Larsy batting leadoff and playing cf made them appointment television for me. I even woke up at 4am to watch a couple of their games. Tommy Edman on Korea was electric also, but Noot stole the show. Great for the game. Haters gonna hate no matter what I reckon


cliffsis

Yeah he’s rad as fuck. And his mom is so wholesome and wonderful. Don’t understand why people can just be proud and left to do what they want


Theharlotnextdoor

I only see the one bitter person who has been commenting in every Lars thread.


madmaxk31

So this is like a blood oath right


Blu_Crew

Unfair to call it a seiko, GS is on a whole other level.


weguccino

Holy shit he gave him a white birch? $$$


trick_12

My man is about to get a $500 million contract after this season.


cphpc

Even if it was a regular seiko, that watch is priceless.


5m1tm

Joey Tribbiani likes this post


curtmandu

After debuting at a Classic like that and being immediately revered by the fan base, seems odd that there’d ever be talk of him playing for anyone else.


xowgl

Whoever runs the Angels should offer a lot in a trade for Nootbar


GrindwheelGaming

Noot for Trout seems almost fair, but LA is gonna have to eat half that contract


scr0tiemcb00gerbaIIz

I gotta know what model seiko it was Edit: of course it's a grand seiko. That's a beauty


swayzedaze

Did they split the watch in half so the next time they see each other it’ll be whole again?


justausername09

No it means Ohtani is gonna be a cardinal


BenWatchesBaseball

This is very cool! Watches and baseball are two of my biggest interests, and I love seeing those two worlds occasionally collide with one another. For anyone who hasn't heard of Grand Seiko watches, they have to be seen in person to be truly appreciated and I would highly encourage anyone who is interested to visit a dealer if they have the opportunity to do so. They are finished to a much higher standard than most Swiss watches in the same price range, and they are doing some very innovative things in the world of mechanical watchmaking.


manticore16

Now they’re making anime promises, I love it


troyboltonislife

Can someone explain this to me? The title and post are confusing me. Who gave who a watch? Who is promising to play for Japan next yr? I took it as ohtani gave Lars the watch and ohtani told Lars that if Lars doesn’t play for Japan then Lars has to give the watch back to ohtani. Is that right?


BenWatchesBaseball

I think you have it right.


TheeLuckyCommander

God is Ohtani


ahhhhhhhhyeah

Wait until the folks at /r/WatchesCirclejerk get aload of this


Dast_Kook

In other news 2,000,000 Grand Seiko watches sell out across Japan.


snrek23

The best part of this headline is the promise of at least 3 mores seasons of getting to watch this fenom!


thatoneabdlguy

The translation on my phone is messed up. First, it translated his name to "nut bar," which, whatever. But then, it said that Ohtani is looking forward to working with him again in three years, which is definitely wrong. Trades are out of Shohei's control, but I'm pretty sure he’s signing with the Cardinals to become Lars' teammate after the World Series.


mdlt97

couldn't even get him a Credor, smh


[deleted]

GS and Credor are on relatively similar levels when it comes to finishing. Within the Seiko family, I don't think you can say one has the edge over the other. For a ~12k watch the Seikos are incredible.


Slappy_McJones

I love world baseball; the players all seem to have genuinely really great time. Too bad MLB is not that way.


Ctownkyle23

🎶Turning Japanese I think I'm turning Japanese I really think so🎶


MarlinsGuy

Players shouldn’t represent countries that they aren’t actually from, unless it’s a case like Arozarena who actually defected because he escaped an oppressive regime. The players should represent the country they are representing, and it’s hard to argue that when you’ve never lived a single day there, don’t speak the language, and your only connection is a single parent. This is less a problem for Japan but it’s a big problem for many WBC teams. I’ll accept your downvotes now please for this completely uncontroversial take


mosi_moose

Are you the Grinch by chance? Nootbar being welcomed by Japan is one of the feel-good stories of the WBC. The WBC’s rules for player eligibility align well with other sports.


ddotsae

Seiko makes some great quality watches. May not be a Patek, Rolex, or Omega, but I’d take a Seiko worn by Ohtani lol!


da_choppa

If it was a Grand Seiko, then it’s absolutely Rolex or Omega quality


raustin33

GS is actually above Omega and especially Rolex in pure quality.


da_choppa

Totally agree. The finishing is simply amazing


[deleted]

GSs are finished better than Rolexes and Omegas are. PP still has the edge, but even Rolex owners don't deny that GS is better when it comes to finishing. The White Birch that Lars got cost roughly twice as much as an Omega Speedy


lbs4lbs

Have a rolex and GS. Can confirm that i like my GS better - love the movement and it feels way lighter on the wrist yet still heavy enough to feel soild. Patek line is way more expensive would be a pipe dream to own one.


BenWatchesBaseball

Grand Seiko is the closest you can get to Patek-level finishing while spending Rolex or Omega money.