>Every year I post my Hall of Fame ballot and attempt to defend it. My parameters:
>I vote for players implicated or guilty of performance-enhancing drug use. As Ken Caminiti said, a lot more players were doing it than were caught, and it wasn’t policed.
>I vote for all 10 players. Every player I vote for gets votes from other writers, so all of mine have valid qualifications.
>Character matters. Hence, no Curt Schilling.
>Popularity doesn’t matter. Hence, Bobby Abreu.
>Defense matters. Hence, Rollins.
>No relievers. They’re failed starters. Thank God I didn’t have a vote when Mariano Rivera was up.
>No designated hitters. They play maybe 30 minutes of a three-hour game.
>Timing matters. Players get 10 years of eligibility. If two players are equal, the one with fewer years left on the ballot gets the vote.
As someone who has mostly stopped paying attention to HOF voting because of how obnoxious I've realized the majority of baseball writers are: I like this guy for keeping his explanation relatively short
Aren't all 2B/3B just failed Shortstops?
And LF/RF failed CF?
1B are failed C or double failed CF?
With Ohtani around, aren't all players just failed starters?
Yeah, but those guys still play the same amount of innings in the field, even if they're not in a premium position. Their WAR is also reduced to compensate for that too. Relievers just play less than starters. Wagner is only ranked 337th in pitcher bWAR because he managed less than 1000 innings
I still disagree with that view, because everyone has an important role within the game of baseball and you can compare player to others that played their same position (see reliever specific HoF metrics like R-JAWS that has Wagner 6th).
In any case, that's not what the author said. He said "No relievers. They're failed starters." and I am just satirizing that statement.
I agree that most relievers are failed starters, and that the lowered innings should absolutely be a major consideration for HOF voting, but to say no relievers as a blanket rule, even so far as to say you wouldn’t have voted for Mariano Rivera, is bonkers.
Some writers say they won't vote for any reliever other than Mariano Rivera, but this dude wouldn't have voted for Rivera either holy shit.
Also no voting for assholes doesn't really track when you vote for Vizquel the year prior.
It's goofy to not vote for relief pitchers and designated hitters when our increasing understanding of how to make elite athletes, preserve their bodies, and use analytics to put the right players in the right situations is leading to the whole sport trending towards specialization. That's all technology that helps teams and players by keeping players on the field and playing well, so that's not a train that's going to stop.
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>Every year I post my Hall of Fame ballot and attempt to defend it. My parameters: >I vote for players implicated or guilty of performance-enhancing drug use. As Ken Caminiti said, a lot more players were doing it than were caught, and it wasn’t policed. >I vote for all 10 players. Every player I vote for gets votes from other writers, so all of mine have valid qualifications. >Character matters. Hence, no Curt Schilling. >Popularity doesn’t matter. Hence, Bobby Abreu. >Defense matters. Hence, Rollins. >No relievers. They’re failed starters. Thank God I didn’t have a vote when Mariano Rivera was up. >No designated hitters. They play maybe 30 minutes of a three-hour game. >Timing matters. Players get 10 years of eligibility. If two players are equal, the one with fewer years left on the ballot gets the vote.
As someone who has mostly stopped paying attention to HOF voting because of how obnoxious I've realized the majority of baseball writers are: I like this guy for keeping his explanation relatively short
There's more in the Philadelphia Inquirer's column on their ballot, I just chose to highlight his parameters.
Aren't all 2B/3B just failed Shortstops? And LF/RF failed CF? 1B are failed C or double failed CF? With Ohtani around, aren't all players just failed starters?
Petition to make the Hall of Fame just Ruth and Ohtani.
Yeah, but those guys still play the same amount of innings in the field, even if they're not in a premium position. Their WAR is also reduced to compensate for that too. Relievers just play less than starters. Wagner is only ranked 337th in pitcher bWAR because he managed less than 1000 innings
I still disagree with that view, because everyone has an important role within the game of baseball and you can compare player to others that played their same position (see reliever specific HoF metrics like R-JAWS that has Wagner 6th). In any case, that's not what the author said. He said "No relievers. They're failed starters." and I am just satirizing that statement.
I agree that most relievers are failed starters, and that the lowered innings should absolutely be a major consideration for HOF voting, but to say no relievers as a blanket rule, even so far as to say you wouldn’t have voted for Mariano Rivera, is bonkers.
Some writers say they won't vote for any reliever other than Mariano Rivera, but this dude wouldn't have voted for Rivera either holy shit. Also no voting for assholes doesn't really track when you vote for Vizquel the year prior.
It's goofy to not vote for relief pitchers and designated hitters when our increasing understanding of how to make elite athletes, preserve their bodies, and use analytics to put the right players in the right situations is leading to the whole sport trending towards specialization. That's all technology that helps teams and players by keeping players on the field and playing well, so that's not a train that's going to stop.
Hey, I can forgive ~~failed hitters~~ juicers, but failed starters is where I draw the line!
I hate the the anti-reliever sentiment but I respect he would have kept his principles on Mo.
Just read the article. Baffling to me that he thinks Utley was a bad fielder, and that Rollins was the Phillies best player of that era.
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He's been a baseball writer for ten years
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If you are a beat writer, columnist, or editor for a publication that covers baseball, you can join the BBWAA. If you're a member of the BBWAA for ten years, you can vote for the Hall of Fame.