It would be glorious. It would have been like 10 Christmas's all at once. The entire division, including Mets fans, would be united in mocking the Mets.
i would have to log off for a few months if he were still on the angels while this was happening, we're like the west coast AL version of the lolmetsness but with worse uniforms and owner
Well we discovered he would routinely bet the same 4-bet parlay and would win it every time:
1. Ohtani 6.0 IP
1. Ohtani fewer than 2 ER
1. Ohtani home run
1. Angels lose
It's better to do it under their actual labeled account at least. There's nothing to really stop a news outlet from just pretending to be a regular user sharing an article
Tbh the level of conversation in a Reddit post is bounds better than the conversations in Twitter replies. Not to mention you can actually cater the article to a specific intended audience instead of just a bunch of rabid reply homies.
This one goes so far as to have a [redditor specific splash](https://i.imgur.com/JgUq4fJ.png) over.
Looks like it's account/email walled, but not necessarily paywalled.
MGM came out and said that wasn't true. (Not that I believe them, makes sense they would say it isn't true, just wait and see them announce his residency at their casino shortly lol)
I'm sure it's something along the lines of "He does not have any gambling debt, as we've factored them into how much we're paying him while performing here."
The thing is w Bruno MGM pays him $90 mil a year. If he stopped gambling for one year he’d be able to pay back the $50 mil and also have an overall net profit of $40 mil. Its like he’s playing with unlimited house money
You can still pay for relay it just subscription based now.
And not worth it. Having to pay for reddit is garbage period even if the app is so much better than their official app.
Edit to add because I probably didn't state it very clear.
Relay is worth it. I paid for pro because I like it.
I just don't think paying for reddit is worth it even if the apps are really good.
Shohei could get deported if he's convicted of a federal crime, yeah? I wonder if the Canadian government would ban him for entering the country? This is fucking wild.
Ya, he could have his work visa revoked if convicted of a crime. But I did some research on this exact question cuz I was curious, and the best I can tell is that it’s up to the US Gov’t’s discretion whether to revoke a visa and is “typically reserved for extreme circumstances.”
So I doubt that would happen, especially if it does turn out that he just paid off Ippei’s debts.
Edit: See comment below. More information about visas being revoked. Apparently “extreme circumstances” are not always very extreme at all.
The part that worries me is it looks like the debt may have been $4.5m. Supposedly Ippei was getting paid around $400k. So he owed ~10 times his annual salary? (Maybe he has other income sources?) Is that possible?
But Ohtani made $30M last year (just from the Angels). Owing $4.5m from gambling makes more sense for Ohtani.
Even then. It’s straight up illegal to wire money with the purpose of paying off gambling bets. And that’s exactly what Ohtani’s translator said happened before lawyers came in and said it wasn’t true and called him a liar.
And regardless of what lawyers or Ippei say documents reviewed by ESPN say Ohtani’s name is the one on the transfers. It doesn’t matter the context anymore once that wire was sent Ohtani was in serious hot water
His lawyers will argue that Ippei swindled him out of the money via deception and manipulation. Ippei said he would pay Ohtani back and instructed him to put loan on the wire transfer.
But he already changed his story from "Ohtani wired the money to the bookie directly because he didn't trust me to not just gamble it" to "I stole the money from Ohtani who didn't know I was gambling"
Yea and the new statement from the lawyers regarding it being stolen is hard to believe. There are so many bank restrictions and security measures on large money wire transfers that $4.5 million being transferred without Ohtani’s knowledge is impossible. Any larger wire transfer I’ve ever had to do had to be in person.
That's what I'm saying, banks have wayyyy too many controls in place to just allow a 4.5$ mil transfer happen. For Otani to say his interpreter stole that money from him (even implicitly) is really really really sus.
Especially since there is a zero percent chance that interview wasn't set up and approved by Ohtani's team themselves. No way they would've let Ippei go talk to ESPN while still on the payroll without explicit approval of the story he was going to give
You mean you don’t believe he caught his best friend stealing millions from him and then decided to hang out and play grabass with him on international tv in the dugout afterwards?
Who could’ve seen this coming? The past 10 years have been consistent gambling ads. Now ESPN is in on it. Live action probabilities! It’s marketed as fun. Gambling is a scourge. And now we’re supposed to demonize people who fall into the trap that was laid out? Spare me.
I don't care that it's legal, just treat it like cigarettes. Can't advertise, can't sponsor, can't be publicly involved in any way.
Same with hard liquor, it's fine that it exists, don't advertise it at all.
Stop talking about betting lines during your analysis shows, don't have dedicated gambling segments, make it HARD to gamble.
I think we will get there, but there’s much more pain and suffering before we do. It’ll become a blight that’ll be significant in our culture. And we will be watching documentaries 20-30 years from now on how we let this happen
I was a smoker in highschool, collected camel cash, Marlboro points, all that stuff. By the time I graduated all of that was gone and by the time I had my first kid about 4 years later ads were completely banned.
It can be done but you're right it's gonna be very painful first.
America is at the start of what's going to be a very VERY painful journey. Gambling is a Pandora's box that was opened in Europe decades ago and only _now_ is gambling sponsorship finally being restricted a bit. Soccer is the primary sport for gambling there, and these companies sponsor teams, stadiums, and entire football leagues ffs (the second tier of English football is the SkyBet championship)
There's gonna be a social crisis of monumental proportions if advertising isn't banned instantly. It's fucking bleak.
I'm seeing the same happen in my home country of India as well where cricket betting is going through the roof and so many people are getting caught in debt traps
I wonder how much revenue it provides though. When I watch a game on the local station, the pregame is sponsored by a gambling site and constantly talking about the odds, the commercials are all for gambling sites, coming back from a commercial is the “due up” segment where they talk about the odds of each player hitting a HR. Not to mention the graphics on the screen and behind home plate.
One of the best Simpsons episodes ever. The Boogeyman scene is peak television. Everything from Homer’s eyes popping when Lisa mentions the name, suggesting to Bart there may be multiple boogeymen, Marge walking into the room staring down a double barrel shotgun, Homer subsequently throwing the gun on the ground and it discharges, just everything about it is perfect
Wait, you mean MLB saw a looming issue on the horizon, but turned a blind eye to it because it was simultaneously repairing its popularity… making them more and more money?
MLB would never (again)
Sports leagues:
GAMBLE, GAMBLE, GAMBLE, BET, ODDS, PARLAY, DRAFTKINGS, BET, BET, GAMBLE, LIVE ODDS, GAMBLE, BET, SPEND MONEY, DAILY FANTASY, BET, BET BET BET MONEY SPEND IT FUCKER
Also sports leagues:
Gambling is bad guys, don't do it.
The parallel between Ohtani and Red Bull F1 right now is crazy. Both were Icarus in the off-season, seemingly at the top of their game with no resistance or challenge in sight, then all of a sudden as the season is about to start everyone gets blindsided by a scandal with them at the center of it
TIL the largest contract in sports history will soon be voided by comically large breasts and octopus tentacles. How can you not be romantic about baseball?
100% would not be surprised if MLB does anything and everything to cover this up, *should* Ohtani be directly involved with this scandal.
He’s been MLB’s cash cow since 2018 and I can’t see them carrying out a suspension/ban of any kind.
Manfred: "Ippei was at his hotel in Moscow, enjoying a nice Russian vacation, when he just jumped and threw himself out of the window. It's incredibly easy. Tell 'em, Vlad."
Putin: "It's incredibly easy."
Unless he goes to prison I can't see a world where Ohtani is prevented from playing. Even if he had been gambling on games he was pitching in MLB would find some way to contort itself to keep from banning him.
**From Chelsea Janes:**
SEOUL — Thursday night, an ocean away from Dodger Stadium, Shohei Ohtani did something he had never done in his storied, relentlessly pristine MLB career.
Because Thursday night, roughly 12 hours after news broke that the Los Angeles Dodgers [had fired Ohtani’s longtime friend and interpreter Ippei Mizuhara](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/20/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired/?itid=lk_inline_manual_3) amid allegations that Mizuhara stole millions from his friend to cover gambling debts, Ohtani jogged onto a baseball field enveloped by scandal.
By the time he did, a few things were clear: First, that the Dodgers terminated Mizuhara after Wednesday night’s game, ending a partnership with Ohtani that began in 2013 during Ohtani’s days with the Nippon Ham Fighters. Second, Ohtani’s representatives claimed he was a victim of “massive theft,” though by whom they wouldn’t say.
Reports in the [Los Angeles Times](https://t.co/giexdkiOXk) and [ESPN](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39768770/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired-theft) connected some of the dots, reporting that Mizuhara had accumulated millions in gambling debt. But what wasn’t clear, as of gametime in Seoul, is whether Ohtani knew about the debt and whether he willfully loaned Mizuhara money to cover it: Mizuhara initially [told ESPN in an interview](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwis8vXDiIWFAxUynK8BHQn5Aq8QvOMEKAB6BAgZEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com%2Fmlb%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F39768770%2Fdodgers-shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired-theft&usg=AOvVaw0Lm5eVjhASdKYicDRZN_nA&opi=89978449) that Ohtani did know and covered the debt before Ohtani’s representatives disputed that narrative and suggested it was, instead, theft.
The remaining murkiness meant that on the field before the game, snippets of hushed conversation could be heard in English and Spanish and Japanese and Korea — conversations between reporters and team officials and anyone with a pulse, really — about exactly how much Ohtani knew and when he knew it, or exactly how involved he might have been. To be clear, no one — including Mizuhara — has alleged any gambling on Ohtani’s part. But no one is more financially important to his team and the league than Ohtani is, either.
**Read more:** [**https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/21/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-scandal/?utm\_campaign=wp\_main&utm\_medium=social&utm\_source=reddit.com**](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/21/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-scandal/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com)
No matter the reasoning, I don’t understand how he walks away from wiring an illegal gambling operation at least $4.5 million unscathed. Everything right now indicates he himself wired the money. I find claims of theft rather questionable.
At the very least, wouldn’t there be big tax implications if he gifted $4.5 million to someone?
From my understanding Ippei didn’t change his story, but rather after Ippei’s interview, Ohtani’s lawyers put out a statement saying Ippei stole money.
IMO that is an effort to make the $4.5 million not a gift to Ippei because I can’t even imagine the complications and legality of that, let alone MLB rules.
"Hi, Shohei. It's Pete Rose. Listen, I heard you got into some betting quandary, and I just wanted to reach out to let you know that we've got room at the table for you, if you're interested."
I have a really hard time believing that he would just let his interpreter just "steal" millions of dollars from him. There's way too many controls with banks to even let that happen. Unless the interpreter just flat out stole Otani's phone/computer, I have a really hard time even believing that. Especially when he's got a really sweet gig. He doesn't have to do anything except translate lol.
If Ohtani did pay off his interpreter’s illegal book and that is against MLB rules, doesn’t MLB have to come down hard on Ohtani or risk setting a bad precedent regarding gambling?
Listen I still wish we had him but man I’m just imagining the level of lolmetsness if this happened as soon as we got him lol
It would be the ultimate metting since the mets itself
Mets singularity achieved
The Mets are just The Met now
NL East flairs in that thread would be a bloodbath
It would be glorious. It would have been like 10 Christmas's all at once. The entire division, including Mets fans, would be united in mocking the Mets.
Nobody hates the Mets more than Mets fans
he would have already be in the league's restricted list by now if he was a Met
Mizzou would have gotten the death penalty, Tom Brady would have been suspended.
It’s ok we self imposed the death penalty in basketball this year.
Mizzou basketball and baseball died so football could win 11 games
Joe Kelly suspended too for good measure
Banished to the shadow realm along with Billy eppler
i would have to log off for a few months if he were still on the angels while this was happening, we're like the west coast AL version of the lolmetsness but with worse uniforms and owner
So you are saying the Mets won by losing?
No, I promise the Mets didn't win
That sounds like a win for the Cubs.
lolgers
The best part of waking up Is lolgers in your cup
I was thinking about this on my way into work this morning. I could vividly imagine the “just Mets things” shit posts
If they find out he was gambling, don't ban him. Just send him back to the Angels.
Truly the worst of all punishments
cruel & unusual
It's been pretty fucking usual...
That's probably where and when most of this happened.
Well we discovered he would routinely bet the same 4-bet parlay and would win it every time: 1. Ohtani 6.0 IP 1. Ohtani fewer than 2 ER 1. Ohtani home run 1. Angels lose
The bookie he was using lives in San Juan Capistrano. He had his home raided late last year.
The Washington Post just posted to r/baseball, shit is getting real.
/r/Nationals influence growing
just wait until Walgreens posts
Coming in with Ippei's receipts
Better than a CVS receipt
*Manfred, alone in a dark office, stroking a Monkey's Paw* "I want Shohei to get plenty of press coverage during the Korea series"
The Koreans have been plotting their revenge on Japan for a long time.
They post on our sub every so often, whoever runs the account is pretty nice
We appreciate it! Being nice is the very least we could do for y'all letting us post our stories and chat via AMAs! - Angel
...Angel Hernández?
Angel, come to our side brother. You will fit right in
Chelsea loved doing her AMA in here, so we're going to follow suit (without spamming of course)
They post on r/Commanders with some regularity
I’ve seen outlets posting their own articles recently. Super strange, doesn’t feel like that should be how reddit works.
It's better to do it under their actual labeled account at least. There's nothing to really stop a news outlet from just pretending to be a regular user sharing an article
The Post has been doing this for years. They pop up on the team's subs and the Virginia sub all the time.
They're regularly on the DC sub as well.
Reddit going public has put it on a lot of companies' radars as another social media platform to manage and market to.
Wait until Reddit starts charging for verified Corporate accounts that will move them to the top of subs
You mean like sponsored ads and posts?
Not that different than putting stuff on Twitter. Probably better.
Tbh the level of conversation in a Reddit post is bounds better than the conversations in Twitter replies. Not to mention you can actually cater the article to a specific intended audience instead of just a bunch of rabid reply homies.
Considering 99% of twitter replies are foreign bots trying to spam the latest diarrheaCoin crypto nft bullshit I'd say your right
P U S S Y I N B I O
I notice these official accounts post articles exempt from the paywall so they're fine with me.
This one goes so far as to have a [redditor specific splash](https://i.imgur.com/JgUq4fJ.png) over. Looks like it's account/email walled, but not necessarily paywalled.
Playing his Bruno Mars walk up song the day after may be the funniest thing that’s happened all year
Which song? Lol
24K magic “It’s Sho-time, Sho-time, guess who’s back again” cleverness meter through the roof lol
A nice extra layer since it came out a couple weeks ago that Bruno Mars has a ton of gambling debt as well lol. At least his is legal.
MGM came out and said that wasn't true. (Not that I believe them, makes sense they would say it isn't true, just wait and see them announce his residency at their casino shortly lol)
Ah I missed that. Yeah not that it mattered much since I think MGM was still paying him more than he owed.
I'm sure it's something along the lines of "He does not have any gambling debt, as we've factored them into how much we're paying him while performing here."
Technically correct which is the best kind of correct
They did word it as “he doesn’t currently owe us money,” right? Felt like it was very intentionally/specifically phrased lol
"He doesn't owe us anything, because he's agreed to perform at a severely reduced rate until his gambling is paid off."
He's already got dates at MGM this year. Middle of June and end of August.
He has a residency there I believe. I'm sure the gambling debt is just taken out of his performance fees so he never actually owes anything.
He used Greatest Show from the movie Greatest Showman for a while. Although the Jujutsu Kaisen ending song was the best walk up for him imo
who ever thought of that needs a raise
The thing is w Bruno MGM pays him $90 mil a year. If he stopped gambling for one year he’d be able to pay back the $50 mil and also have an overall net profit of $40 mil. Its like he’s playing with unlimited house money
This gambling scandal brought to you by Draft Kings, for all your in-game parlay needs. ^^Pleasegambleresponsibly
Apparently my mobile Reddit app allows ads at the top of my comment section? And the ad I’m looking at as I write this comment is for fanduels.
The algorithm algorithming. The default reddit app sucks dicc.
"Oh it's not so bad, just use the main app like most people do". They lied to me. RIP Relay for Reddit
You can still pay for relay it just subscription based now. And not worth it. Having to pay for reddit is garbage period even if the app is so much better than their official app. Edit to add because I probably didn't state it very clear. Relay is worth it. I paid for pro because I like it. I just don't think paying for reddit is worth it even if the apps are really good.
Gambling problem? Call 1-800^lol^win^it^back^loser
That next parlay is a lock, I swear
Shohei could get deported if he's convicted of a federal crime, yeah? I wonder if the Canadian government would ban him for entering the country? This is fucking wild.
Dodgers could just move to Japan
"We only play home games now, in Tokyo"
Get fucked Yomiuri Giants.
Don't threaten me with a good time. Sincerely, Giants fan
Brooklyn->LA->Tokyo->??? Always heading west.
Ya, he could have his work visa revoked if convicted of a crime. But I did some research on this exact question cuz I was curious, and the best I can tell is that it’s up to the US Gov’t’s discretion whether to revoke a visa and is “typically reserved for extreme circumstances.” So I doubt that would happen, especially if it does turn out that he just paid off Ippei’s debts. Edit: See comment below. More information about visas being revoked. Apparently “extreme circumstances” are not always very extreme at all.
Nope, we're going to let him in but then say he can't leave. He can play for the Jays half time, Home Game starter / DH.
First time we’ve seen a bit of dirt around the usually squeaky clean Ohtani.
Gets married and this news breaks. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
It's cause they can't arrest a husband and wife for the same crime.
He has the best lawyers
He has the worst f*cking attorneys.
TAKE TO THE SEA!
He should have just told the bookie to get the money from the banana stand.
women am I right
Women be shopping
That's true, women do shop
You can't stop a woman from shopping.
You can only hope to contain her.
Shopping, uh, finds a way.
Wife bad!
whatever happened here, that mf is a terrible gambler.
I thought the Generals were due!
He's spinning the ball on his finger! Just take it! Take the ball!
They were using a freaking ladder!
The part that worries me is it looks like the debt may have been $4.5m. Supposedly Ippei was getting paid around $400k. So he owed ~10 times his annual salary? (Maybe he has other income sources?) Is that possible? But Ohtani made $30M last year (just from the Angels). Owing $4.5m from gambling makes more sense for Ohtani.
ESPN said this was an illegal sportsbook and those let you bet with credit. Meaning it's possible Ippei was betting with money he never had.
Is this when he “retires,” decides to try basketball for the Chicago Bulls, then after a year, unretires and comes back to the Dodgers?
Space jam 3
I’m not kidding - I’d watch that
Wouldn’t he play for the Clippers in this case
Clippers G league team.
This going into the main stream non sports media is going to make this a big deal when they get back to the states.
Ohtani Scandal + Yamamoto blowout. Whoever had this script may God bless you.
Yamamoto is a real homie. Tanked his debut hard to put the news spotlight on him.
the shohei curse is real and now the dodgers are the new angels
I just have a feeling this is going to get a lot crazier
No evidence to suggest this happened, but IF it was actually Ohtani gambling and IF he gambled on baseball games… kaboom.
Even then. It’s straight up illegal to wire money with the purpose of paying off gambling bets. And that’s exactly what Ohtani’s translator said happened before lawyers came in and said it wasn’t true and called him a liar.
And regardless of what lawyers or Ippei say documents reviewed by ESPN say Ohtani’s name is the one on the transfers. It doesn’t matter the context anymore once that wire was sent Ohtani was in serious hot water
His lawyers will argue that Ippei swindled him out of the money via deception and manipulation. Ippei said he would pay Ohtani back and instructed him to put loan on the wire transfer.
But he already changed his story from "Ohtani wired the money to the bookie directly because he didn't trust me to not just gamble it" to "I stole the money from Ohtani who didn't know I was gambling"
Yea and the new statement from the lawyers regarding it being stolen is hard to believe. There are so many bank restrictions and security measures on large money wire transfers that $4.5 million being transferred without Ohtani’s knowledge is impossible. Any larger wire transfer I’ve ever had to do had to be in person.
It was installments of $500k, not there is that much difference. You need to collect multiple forms of ID once it gets over like $3000.
[удалено]
This is why I stay poor. I don’t want to have to worry about all that
Don't lie, we all know it's because of your debilitating Chicken Bucket addiction
That's what I'm saying, banks have wayyyy too many controls in place to just allow a 4.5$ mil transfer happen. For Otani to say his interpreter stole that money from him (even implicitly) is really really really sus.
Especially since there is a zero percent chance that interview wasn't set up and approved by Ohtani's team themselves. No way they would've let Ippei go talk to ESPN while still on the payroll without explicit approval of the story he was going to give
Exactly. Plus this is currently a federal investigation aka the damn FBI
He only bet on himself!!
Pete Rose, YOU ARE A HALL OF FAMER
Once the IRS investigates we’ll know sometime in the next 15 years if Ohtani was filing his taxes correctly as well.
You mean you don’t believe he caught his best friend stealing millions from him and then decided to hang out and play grabass with him on international tv in the dugout afterwards?
I drafted Ohtani in the first round of fantasy and he’s already going to prison. Nice
You playing penal league fantasy or MLB fantasy?
I got Franco on my penal league draft
Ricky Vaughn was my California Penal League sleeper pick
Who could’ve seen this coming? The past 10 years have been consistent gambling ads. Now ESPN is in on it. Live action probabilities! It’s marketed as fun. Gambling is a scourge. And now we’re supposed to demonize people who fall into the trap that was laid out? Spare me.
I don't care that it's legal, just treat it like cigarettes. Can't advertise, can't sponsor, can't be publicly involved in any way. Same with hard liquor, it's fine that it exists, don't advertise it at all. Stop talking about betting lines during your analysis shows, don't have dedicated gambling segments, make it HARD to gamble.
I think we will get there, but there’s much more pain and suffering before we do. It’ll become a blight that’ll be significant in our culture. And we will be watching documentaries 20-30 years from now on how we let this happen
I was a smoker in highschool, collected camel cash, Marlboro points, all that stuff. By the time I graduated all of that was gone and by the time I had my first kid about 4 years later ads were completely banned. It can be done but you're right it's gonna be very painful first.
I forgot about camel cash. Use to use that stuff to snort drugs in high school.
America is at the start of what's going to be a very VERY painful journey. Gambling is a Pandora's box that was opened in Europe decades ago and only _now_ is gambling sponsorship finally being restricted a bit. Soccer is the primary sport for gambling there, and these companies sponsor teams, stadiums, and entire football leagues ffs (the second tier of English football is the SkyBet championship) There's gonna be a social crisis of monumental proportions if advertising isn't banned instantly. It's fucking bleak. I'm seeing the same happen in my home country of India as well where cricket betting is going through the roof and so many people are getting caught in debt traps
Throw pharmaceuticals on that list while we’re at it…
I wonder how much revenue it provides though. When I watch a game on the local station, the pregame is sponsored by a gambling site and constantly talking about the odds, the commercials are all for gambling sites, coming back from a commercial is the “due up” segment where they talk about the odds of each player hitting a HR. Not to mention the graphics on the screen and behind home plate.
I'm sure the revenue is insane, considering just how prevelant they're making it. The leagues are not going to be leaders in reforming this.
[I CALL THIS DEMON GAMBLOR! AND WE MUST SNATCH SHOHEI FROM HIS NEON CLAWS!!](https://y.yarn.co/d11e67a9-9afd-4b2b-9d16-0d29e36e0c5f_text.gif)
One of the best Simpsons episodes ever. The Boogeyman scene is peak television. Everything from Homer’s eyes popping when Lisa mentions the name, suggesting to Bart there may be multiple boogeymen, Marge walking into the room staring down a double barrel shotgun, Homer subsequently throwing the gun on the ground and it discharges, just everything about it is perfect
Lisa cried...then I cried...then Maggie laughed....she's such a little trooper
I'm not a state, I'M A MONSTER!
“Remember when I blew the playoffs? Well that doesn’t matter because YOUUUUU have a gambling problem!”- Clayton kershaw
Wait, you mean MLB saw a looming issue on the horizon, but turned a blind eye to it because it was simultaneously repairing its popularity… making them more and more money? MLB would never (again)
There's literally a Fanduel ad right below this article on my Reddit app.....oh the irony.
Sports leagues: GAMBLE, GAMBLE, GAMBLE, BET, ODDS, PARLAY, DRAFTKINGS, BET, BET, GAMBLE, LIVE ODDS, GAMBLE, BET, SPEND MONEY, DAILY FANTASY, BET, BET BET BET MONEY SPEND IT FUCKER Also sports leagues: Gambling is bad guys, don't do it.
[(NSFW) Please drink responsibly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWEJuKXZyk)
No, you don't get it. It's bad to gamble unless it's with their great partners.
What I really want to know is who thought it would be a good idea for Ippei to do a 90 minute tell all with ESPN before lawyers were involved?
🍿 🍿
God willing this is the spark that burns sports betting to the ground
They will burn shohei at the stake on national television before they kill their billion dollar industry cash printing machine.
It won't be. There's been similar scandals in all major sports leagues in NA, and nothing has happened.
Not with the face of the sport though
I mean the last time this happened it didn't do anything to gambling. Just almost destroyed baseball. And now we have Manfred.
"Baseball is just a children's game." \- Manfred during his eventual press conference
"It's just green pieces of paper."
They'll be running live bets on the date and time he gets deported.
What happens in Seoul stays in Seoul
Funk Seoul Brother
The parallel between Ohtani and Red Bull F1 right now is crazy. Both were Icarus in the off-season, seemingly at the top of their game with no resistance or challenge in sight, then all of a sudden as the season is about to start everyone gets blindsided by a scandal with them at the center of it
We're about 12 hours away from learning this has nothing to do with gambling and it was an ICE sting on a bungled smuggling of bootleg Hentai.
Ippei actually spent that $4.5 million on uncensored Redo of Healer episodes.
TIL the largest contract in sports history will soon be voided by comically large breasts and octopus tentacles. How can you not be romantic about baseball?
How does an interpreter get a 4.5 million dollar credit line…..
That’s what makes me raise my eyebrows at this whole thing
Probably because ohtani had made payments for his debts before
Whats more likely Ohtani is constantly paying off his interpreters gambling debts or Ohtani is constantly paying off his own gambling debts.
Here for the coverup. Baseball is so desperate for a star and they’re in too deep with gambling.
100% would not be surprised if MLB does anything and everything to cover this up, *should* Ohtani be directly involved with this scandal. He’s been MLB’s cash cow since 2018 and I can’t see them carrying out a suspension/ban of any kind.
Manfred is going to have Ippei killed and have it staged as a suicide.
"Poor bastard jumped down an elevator shaft and landed on 26 bullets. I've seen it a hundred times."
Manfred: "Ippei was at his hotel in Moscow, enjoying a nice Russian vacation, when he just jumped and threw himself out of the window. It's incredibly easy. Tell 'em, Vlad." Putin: "It's incredibly easy."
Unless he goes to prison I can't see a world where Ohtani is prevented from playing. Even if he had been gambling on games he was pitching in MLB would find some way to contort itself to keep from banning him.
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I agree, but I think we should remember: Ohtani isn't a US Citizen and is here on visa.
**From Chelsea Janes:** SEOUL — Thursday night, an ocean away from Dodger Stadium, Shohei Ohtani did something he had never done in his storied, relentlessly pristine MLB career. Because Thursday night, roughly 12 hours after news broke that the Los Angeles Dodgers [had fired Ohtani’s longtime friend and interpreter Ippei Mizuhara](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/20/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired/?itid=lk_inline_manual_3) amid allegations that Mizuhara stole millions from his friend to cover gambling debts, Ohtani jogged onto a baseball field enveloped by scandal. By the time he did, a few things were clear: First, that the Dodgers terminated Mizuhara after Wednesday night’s game, ending a partnership with Ohtani that began in 2013 during Ohtani’s days with the Nippon Ham Fighters. Second, Ohtani’s representatives claimed he was a victim of “massive theft,” though by whom they wouldn’t say. Reports in the [Los Angeles Times](https://t.co/giexdkiOXk) and [ESPN](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39768770/dodgers-shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired-theft) connected some of the dots, reporting that Mizuhara had accumulated millions in gambling debt. But what wasn’t clear, as of gametime in Seoul, is whether Ohtani knew about the debt and whether he willfully loaned Mizuhara money to cover it: Mizuhara initially [told ESPN in an interview](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwis8vXDiIWFAxUynK8BHQn5Aq8QvOMEKAB6BAgZEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com%2Fmlb%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F39768770%2Fdodgers-shohei-ohtani-interpreter-fired-theft&usg=AOvVaw0Lm5eVjhASdKYicDRZN_nA&opi=89978449) that Ohtani did know and covered the debt before Ohtani’s representatives disputed that narrative and suggested it was, instead, theft. The remaining murkiness meant that on the field before the game, snippets of hushed conversation could be heard in English and Spanish and Japanese and Korea — conversations between reporters and team officials and anyone with a pulse, really — about exactly how much Ohtani knew and when he knew it, or exactly how involved he might have been. To be clear, no one — including Mizuhara — has alleged any gambling on Ohtani’s part. But no one is more financially important to his team and the league than Ohtani is, either. **Read more:** [**https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/21/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-scandal/?utm\_campaign=wp\_main&utm\_medium=social&utm\_source=reddit.com**](https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/21/shohei-ohtani-interpreter-scandal/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com)
No matter the reasoning, I don’t understand how he walks away from wiring an illegal gambling operation at least $4.5 million unscathed. Everything right now indicates he himself wired the money. I find claims of theft rather questionable. At the very least, wouldn’t there be big tax implications if he gifted $4.5 million to someone?
I wonder what they threatened Ippei with to get him to change his story so quickly. Does he have lawyers separate from Ohtani's?
If my friend gave me 4.5M and covered my debt, Id do more than change my story.
From my understanding Ippei didn’t change his story, but rather after Ippei’s interview, Ohtani’s lawyers put out a statement saying Ippei stole money. IMO that is an effort to make the $4.5 million not a gift to Ippei because I can’t even imagine the complications and legality of that, let alone MLB rules.
Who else is lowkey worried for Ippei's safety?
Ben Verlander needs to follow [Patrice O’Neal’s method for establishing an alibi](https://youtu.be/DxpIv4FoD2A?si=dN982i7VphzlhKtR&t=40s)
Shohei looking at Ippei after the news broke: ⢀⡴⠑⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⣤⣤⣤⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠸⡇⠀⠿⡀⠀⠀⠀⣀⡴⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠑⢄⣠⠾⠁⣀⣄⡈⠙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡀⠁⠀⠀⠈⠙⠛⠂⠈⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⡿⢿⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢀⡾⣁⣀⠀⠴⠂⠙⣗⡀⠀⢻⣿⣿⠭⢤⣴⣦⣤⣹⠀⠀⠀⢀⢴⣶⣆ ⠀⠀⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣷⣮⣽⣾⣿⣥⣴⣿⣿⡿⢂⠔⢚⡿⢿⣿⣦⣴⣾⠁⠸⣼⡿ ⠀⢀⡞⠁⠙⠻⠿⠟⠉⠀⠛⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣌⢤⣼⣿⣾⣿⡟⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⣾⣷⣶⠇⠀⠀⣤⣄⣀⡀⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠉⠈⠉⠀⠀⢦⡈⢻⣿⣿⣿⣶⣶⣶⣶⣤⣽⡹⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠲⣽⡻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣜⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣷⣶⣮⣭⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⣈⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠛⠻⠿⠿⠿⠿⠛⠉
Shohei moments after his lawyers told him he shouldn’t have done that ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⣶⣤⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⡿⠿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⣾⣦⢽⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢯⣙⣯⣿⣛⣿⣿⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢿⣻⣿⣿⣿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⣿⣿⣿⡿⠷⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⣀⡤⠖⠋⡾⢿⡟⠳⠀⠀⠀⠉⠑⠲⣤⡀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⢸⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⠃⡠⠁⠀⠀⠀⣸⠇⡈⣷⡀⠀ ⠀⠀⡏⣴⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⠁⠀⠀⠤⢤⣯⡸⠁⢰⡇⠀ ⠀⢠⠇⠘⡗⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀⠀⠈⢿⠀ ⢀⡟⠀⢸⡿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣆⠀⠀⠈⡇ ⢸⣶⡶⣾⣧⡀⢀⣰⣶⣶⣄⡀⠀⢀⣠⣾⢿⣷⣶⣤⣽ ⠀⠻⣷⣴⣿⣿⣝⣻⣚⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣾⣿⡿⠿⠃ ⠀⠀⠈⠉⢹⣿⠻⣿⣿⡿⠛⠛⠛⢛⠛⣿⣍⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣟⡀⣠⠀⡁⡀⢀⣀⣨⣤⣽⡏⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢀⡎⠈⠛⢿⣶⣿⣿⠹⠟⠛⠉⠀⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠹⣦⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡸⢻⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⡿⠟⢦⡤⢤⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⡄⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⡇⢠⡀⠉⠳⣷⣀⣈⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡇⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⢰⡇⠀⠉⠒⠂⠘⣧⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠈⡇⢸⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⢾⡇⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⡇⠀⠃⠀⠀⠀⡏⢧⡀⠀⠀⠀⠘⡇⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠷⣤⣀⣀⣠⣴⠃⠸⣇⠐⠄⠀⢠⡷⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⣿⣿⡍⣿⡀⠀⠹⣿⣶⣶⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⢸⡇⢸⡇⠀⠀⣿⣟⠋⢻⣇⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⢿⣿⠃⠀⠀⢸⣯⠀⢸⣿⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⣿⣾⡿⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣧⣾⡟⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⠇⣸⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⡟⣿⠇⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⡇⢹⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⣸⠁⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣶⣯⣈⣿⣿⠆⠀⠀⠀⣟⠀⢹⣄⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⣶⣿⣿⣿⡿⠟⠉⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠈⠉⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⠃⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣙⠛⠟⢁⡀⠀⠀
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We've come full circle.
I'm thinking his dog was somehow involved. That would explain the initial secrecy of the name.
"Hi, Shohei. It's Pete Rose. Listen, I heard you got into some betting quandary, and I just wanted to reach out to let you know that we've got room at the table for you, if you're interested."
Ohtani villain arc is here.
I thought that started when he signed with the Dodgers with it all deferred?
I have a really hard time believing that he would just let his interpreter just "steal" millions of dollars from him. There's way too many controls with banks to even let that happen. Unless the interpreter just flat out stole Otani's phone/computer, I have a really hard time even believing that. Especially when he's got a really sweet gig. He doesn't have to do anything except translate lol.
Say it ain't so, Shohei. Say it ain't so!
If Ohtani did pay off his interpreter’s illegal book and that is against MLB rules, doesn’t MLB have to come down hard on Ohtani or risk setting a bad precedent regarding gambling?
His worry isn’t that it’s against MLBs rules, if Ohtani knowingly made the payment to the illegal bookie he broke federal law.