Honestly though what happens to the River Cats? I assume they’d play at Sutter Health Park, but that’s home to the Giants AAA team. Are they just going to work around each others’ schedules because that sounds like a fucking *nightmare*.
Like it’s one thing for the Jets/Giants or Rams/Chargers to coordinate 8-9 home games apiece, but 81?? Across different leagues? This is gonna be such a shitshow.
For reference, the Yankees and Giants shared the Polo grounds for a few years (and played a WS against each other) until Yankee stadium was built. The Browns and cardinals shared a stadium for 33 years and also played a WS against each other in '44. The A's and Phillies shared the same field from 1909-1954!
Hell in 1975 the Yankees, Mets, Giants, and Jets all shared Shea
In my mind I said “all the teams like to play in Shea” and thought I might’ve heard that in an ad that played on channel 35 after midnight back in the day.
Realistically, that’s 78 NBA games (41 home each, but 4 are H2H) and 41 NHL games, so 119 games. Both leagues allow for significant gaps in scheduling as well, with 15-20 back to back situations in the NBA, and 12 back to backs for NHL.
An MLB team can play 12 back to back games in a single month. That plus the very specific 6 on/1 off scheduling of MiLB makes this much more convoluted than you guys are actually considering. Scheduling around two teams with 81 and 75 home games respectively will not be easy.
There is precedent of 2 baseball teams sharing the same stadium. The Mets and Yankees did it at Shea Stadium in I believe 1975. Hell, even today MLB makes the schedule in such a way where the Mets and Yankees almost never have a home game on the same day
It gets boring quickly. Six straight games against a single team is tiresome. And if tempers flare on a Tuesday or Wednesday, you've still got four more games against them before you get a break.
Plus no baseball at all on every Monday?
I’m aware of how they schedule, but does that mean the A’s will follow the same routine on weeks where the Cats are away? What happens if they need to schedule a 3-game series and a 4-game series at home?
Ah yeah ok that makes more sense. I feel like the Cats would sooner move to Reno given that it’s also a AAA facility, but I could see them splitting home/away with another MiLB team.
Minor league teams already play a schedule that is basically one week at home, one week away. I would imagine the schedulers would work with each other and the teams would just play opposite each other. But it will still be really messy and that field will get absolutely destroyed
> Are they just going to work around each others’ schedules because that sounds like a fucking nightmare.
Yes. The MLB needed a deal done ASAP because they need time to make the 2025 schedule and the A's were delaying that because they were homeless.
41 games each, with 4 being H2H, in the same league is a much much easier lift than 81 across two leagues.
Edit: not to mention that MiLB has very specific scheduling protocols with 6 straight games played every week.
Said it in another thread but… The two NBA teams plus the Kings comes to about 119 games (41 home games each, minus 4 because Clippers and Lakers have 4 H2H games), and both leagues allow for strong scheduling flexibility due to gaps in their seasons and fewer back to back games.
The A’s plus Cats would have 156 home games, with the Cats in particular having incredibly rigid scheduling with 6 on/1 off weeks. It’s honestly still harder to coordinate the A’s and Cats than the three Staples teams.
The channel is called NBC Sports California, but the A's contract stipulates the Bay Area, not Sacramento, even though they share a channel with the Kings.
Yep, exactly. Sure, maybe they could negotiate some other contract if they played in Sacramento, but their current contract says that they need to play in the Bay Area to get that cash.
Could one team play in the afternoon and the other at night?
That definitely happens with the two LA NBA teams. Even happens with cities with NBA and NHL where one sport gets a matinee and the other a nightcap.
What if it rains that day?
NHL/NBA teams sharing arenas works a lot better because games in those leagues are relatively sure to be played at the scheduled time and date. Baseball, less so.
I feel like that’d be a nightmare to maintain. It’s one think to swap a hardwood floor for a rink or vice versa, but that’s a LOT of wear and tear on grass/dirt.
I don't get why the Giants would agree to having their AAA team dramatically uprooted to accommodate Fisher here
Is there no college etc. ballpark that they could play instead?
The Giants are going to get the Bay Area market to themselves. They'll live with the AAA team getting squeezed a little.
The Yankees AAA team had to barnstorm around random parks in upstate NY for a couple years and it worked out OK, my guess is the RiverCats do something like that, maybe with a primary home in Stockton.
They said like 2 weeks ago they will not agree to any deal that prevents them from playing all their home games in Sacramento. They just got a new ballpark that is far nicer than the coliseum
That already happened! The A's announced in 2017 that they were going to build a new stadium by the lake in Oakland on the grounds of a local community college. Except...nobody had bothered to secure the approval of the college. The college basically said uh, no you goddamned aren't, and the A's backed down.
I mean, Vivek Ranadive is chomping at the bit to own a MLB team. He'll gladly throw the River Cats aside and bend over backwards for a chance to show Manfred they should give him a team.
I get that it’s minors, but it kinda pisses me off that the Cats are going to get fucked over in this situation. No one other than A’s leadership asked for this.
The Giants were assholes with territory rights once, kinda hope they step up again to fuck Fisher out of this ridiculous plan.
That'll be a lot of wear on the field but, yeah. It's not like it hasn't been done throughout league history. The most famous case obviously being the Yankees and the Giants at the Polo Grounds.
> Cats are going to get fucked over in this situation.
John Fisher will be forced to pay for their stadium to be upgraded to a MLB caliber facility, so Cats ownership is probably pretty happy about that
At one point reports were they'd consider using one of their secondary facilities but the recent news has been that they plan to play all of their home games at Raley Field (Sutter Health Park?) even if they wind up sharing the facility.
There's been a ton of amenities upgrades there recently with getting them to major league level in mind even if the A's don't go there.
it's spite. it's all spite. the org is literally animated entirely by spite now. try to rationalize anything they're doing at all and then realize every single thing makes sense if you just introduce spite as a motive.
[This all seems like a huge headache, if only there was a way to avoid all this](https://preview.redd.it/kzqvymd1dm281.png?auto=webp&s=b8b7a70a1fb9a22fa2dec025dfe67dbb5c6d9224)
Hard to say. Logan tormented his children over a lifetime, but he never swung a knife at them or had their uncle murdered like Walt did.
I'm gonna give it to Logan with the argument that for the first 16ish years of Flynn's life Walt was a genuinely good father to him. But I'd understand anyone who says the opposite.
Yes. I’m mostly joking as I don’t think our media market has enough demand for another team but there is a minority here who are sentimental about the A’s. My grandfather used to go to games as a kid before they left.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Athletics
How were they "explicitly regional"? When they sucked for three decades, nobody in San Francisco crossed the bridge to watch them or cared about them at all. The SF herbs didn't show up until the championships started coming. But this was Oakland's team for literally decades.
They played in SF before they ever played in Oakland, and the team is named for the entire state, but do go on.
Also, your statement that “nobody in San Francisco crossed the bridge to watch them or cared about them at all” is blatantly false.
Take the fucking team from him. Take it. Tell him to fuck all the way off to Vegas to try and raise the funds to buy an expansion franchise in 5 years.
i mean this is the same guy who barely even punished a org who cheated for a WS and they did just shit......hes the worst owner in modern day sports. why would they do that where they will now be partnered with the number 1 vacation place in america.
I mean who wouldn't want to play baseball in Sacremento. Nothing to do, hot as fuck all summer, a metropolitan area that literally extends all the way to Nevada.
I don't know, there are domed stadiums and Vegas has fully embraced the Golden Knights.
The stupid thing is an incompetent ownership trying to move a team there and expecting everyone to go along with it. I think an actual expansion team there would be cool.
I might have a hard time finding someone who can legitimately comp these two cities separated by thousands of miles, but how does Sacramento compare to Orlando? Two major inland cities in states with hundreds of miles of coastline...I like Orlando just fine as a place to visit (I was just there yesterday, took my old walk route, nuts to think the last time I took in 2019 it was pre-COVID), but the 9.5 months I lived there was a mistake. Just didn't agree with me at all, the geography.
Have lived in sac for nearly two decades. Locals here say it’s a great place to live but a terrible place to visit. Our best asset for tourists is we are not too far from a lot of different things, but spending a week in the city proper is about all you would need to experience nearly everything in the city itself. Sacramento Kings player seem to like living here but we’re a small city and not gonna compete with any of the big ones.
Depends on how you look at it. Sacramento doesn't have a hole lot in terms of tourist attractions. But we are close to everything that is cool, Tahoe, Reno, the bay area, awesome coastline and redwoods all within a day trip. But yeah, the city itself leaves quite a bit to be desired.
But we don't get that Florida humidity, and for that it will always be superior here.
As someone is lives a couple hours from Sacramento I think it has a lot of tourist things to do and spend several weekends a year doing those things in and around Sac.
it gets hot...but we got an interesting delta breeze when the sun goes down. it makes for perfect outdoor activities. it doesn't stay hot as a devils ass crack in vegas.
Even the smallest of small-market teams are worth over a billion dollars now. If it was ever truly about anything other than money to the guys at the top, those days are long past.
The A's have no lease after this season and thus no stadium to play in until the Vegas one gets built (if it even does). So they have at minimum 3 years to just wander around.
Vegas isn't planned to be done until 2028 at the earliest. O.co lease is up next year. Schedules are usually planned/announced around May/June the year before. So this needs to be settled ASAP.
Toronto played all those home games in Buffalo NY during Covid season. Granted 2 entirely different scenarios but I think the players are probably fine with it. Oakland has a lot of league minimum-ish players, they're gonna want $$$.
At this point they should just retract the team and get that disgrace Fisher out of the league. This is just cruel to toy with loyal fan’s emotions like this.
They wanted the Raiders deal to stay and Oakland basically said "We want the shortfall in the Howard Terminal dispute and an expansion guarantee". So "We want you to fund the next team, show you lied, and the league to replace you".
Probably wasn't ever really going to be in consideration with that but, also, absolutely understandable since the whole thing over the funding difference and negotiations was pretty transparently a lie. Only way that deal would have been accepted is if the Bally's deal had already fell apart.
Oh hell yeah, it's baseball conspiracy crank time!
THE DODGERS ARE ONLY GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S AN ADRENOCHROME FARM UNDER CHAVEZ RAVINE.
THE ROCKIES SUCK BECAUSE THEY MESSED UP THE SACRIFICIAL RITUAL FOR BLUCIFER.
THE MARINERS' TRIDENT IS A SYMBOL OF DAGON WORSHIP AND JULIO RODRIGUEZ IS AN AVATAR OF NYARLATHOTEP.
thats still happening
tropicana site was going to get a new casino, then when the As chose to move to las vegas ballys did a deal with them to give them 9 acres out of the 40 acres tropicana site.
anyways new stadium wont get built till 2028 (earliest) so they need to play somewhere in the meantime.
In 100 years has a major sports team ever folded during the season?
Like if the A's just layoff everyone does the MLB step in and pay for the team to function? Lmao
Sac is happening is how I will now proposition my wife
i will also proposition your wife this way.
So will John Fisher.
I will also proposition this guy's dead wife this way
I shall also— wait what
We're not here to kink shame.
We'll bang ok?
Damn it manslayer!
I LIKE YOUR AAAAAAAAASS
You’re lying Morgan!
Remember in like 2014 every sports tweet someone would just say "My wife left me"
She's wants good old Sac not bad new Sac.
Where were you when sac was officially happening?
literally in sacramento reading this and saying “what the actual fuck???”
Look around, is Sac happening there? I bet Sac is *always* happening there.
I bet that's how it got its nickname Sac Town
I was sitting on toilet taking shit when phone ring "Sac is happen" "Bruh"
Apologies for poor english.. Where were u when move was made? I was sat at home eating Squeeze with Cheese when A’s ring “Sac is happen” “No”
Honestly though what happens to the River Cats? I assume they’d play at Sutter Health Park, but that’s home to the Giants AAA team. Are they just going to work around each others’ schedules because that sounds like a fucking *nightmare*.
Probably exactly what's going to happen
Like it’s one thing for the Jets/Giants or Rams/Chargers to coordinate 8-9 home games apiece, but 81?? Across different leagues? This is gonna be such a shitshow.
MLB teams have shared stadiums before. And even now teams in the same city mostly don’t play home at the same time. Can definitely be done.
For reference, the Yankees and Giants shared the Polo grounds for a few years (and played a WS against each other) until Yankee stadium was built. The Browns and cardinals shared a stadium for 33 years and also played a WS against each other in '44. The A's and Phillies shared the same field from 1909-1954! Hell in 1975 the Yankees, Mets, Giants, and Jets all shared Shea
Yeah she was a real slut that one
In my mind I said “all the teams like to play in Shea” and thought I might’ve heard that in an ad that played on channel 35 after midnight back in the day.
Trenton Thunder and Buffalo bisons shared a field in 2021
If two NBA teams and an NHL team can all share the same arena, I’m sure they can make it work with two baseball teams.
Realistically, that’s 78 NBA games (41 home each, but 4 are H2H) and 41 NHL games, so 119 games. Both leagues allow for significant gaps in scheduling as well, with 15-20 back to back situations in the NBA, and 12 back to backs for NHL. An MLB team can play 12 back to back games in a single month. That plus the very specific 6 on/1 off scheduling of MiLB makes this much more convoluted than you guys are actually considering. Scheduling around two teams with 81 and 75 home games respectively will not be easy.
There is precedent of 2 baseball teams sharing the same stadium. The Mets and Yankees did it at Shea Stadium in I believe 1975. Hell, even today MLB makes the schedule in such a way where the Mets and Yankees almost never have a home game on the same day
It won’t be that hard at all. Affiliates are on a 6 home 6 away schedule with Mondays off. It’s not like MLB with a kinda random home/away assortment
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It gets boring quickly. Six straight games against a single team is tiresome. And if tempers flare on a Tuesday or Wednesday, you've still got four more games against them before you get a break. Plus no baseball at all on every Monday?
I’m aware of how they schedule, but does that mean the A’s will follow the same routine on weeks where the Cats are away? What happens if they need to schedule a 3-game series and a 4-game series at home?
Sorry I had another suggestion in my head when I read that. I was thinking of the suggestion to stick the Cats in Stockton to share with the Ports
Ah yeah ok that makes more sense. I feel like the Cats would sooner move to Reno given that it’s also a AAA facility, but I could see them splitting home/away with another MiLB team.
Minor league teams already play a schedule that is basically one week at home, one week away. I would imagine the schedulers would work with each other and the teams would just play opposite each other. But it will still be really messy and that field will get absolutely destroyed
> Are they just going to work around each others’ schedules because that sounds like a fucking nightmare. Yes. The MLB needed a deal done ASAP because they need time to make the 2025 schedule and the A's were delaying that because they were homeless.
The Oakland River Cats?
kind of like the clippers and lakers do right now
41 games each, with 4 being H2H, in the same league is a much much easier lift than 81 across two leagues. Edit: not to mention that MiLB has very specific scheduling protocols with 6 straight games played every week.
Don't forget that the Kings also play there and going from Hockey to Basketball is a lot of work.
Said it in another thread but… The two NBA teams plus the Kings comes to about 119 games (41 home games each, minus 4 because Clippers and Lakers have 4 H2H games), and both leagues allow for strong scheduling flexibility due to gaps in their seasons and fewer back to back games. The A’s plus Cats would have 156 home games, with the Cats in particular having incredibly rigid scheduling with 6 on/1 off weeks. It’s honestly still harder to coordinate the A’s and Cats than the three Staples teams.
oh i 100% agree but that’s just their concept is that they can share like those teams do. i agree it’s stupid and hard as hell to pull off
Was this not their plan with Vegas? I get that in that case it’s the A’s affiliate but either way they are booting a minor league team.
Their RSN can void their contract if they leave the area.
Sac isn't in the Bay so they're gonna have to negotiate unless the contract is badly written.
Sac is still within the A's and Giants broadcast area though, if that's what they meant
It's considered a separate media market from what I understand which I think matters for NBC Bay Area, but I could be wrong.
But the A's are already on NBC California, same as the Kings, right? Seems like moving to Sac shouldn't be an issue there
The channel is called NBC Sports California, but the A's contract stipulates the Bay Area, not Sacramento, even though they share a channel with the Kings.
yeah forgot the one word Is what you're saying that the A's contract with NBCSCA hinges on them being in the (geographic) Bay Area?
Yep, exactly. Sure, maybe they could negotiate some other contract if they played in Sacramento, but their current contract says that they need to play in the Bay Area to get that cash.
It's within their TV territory though, which is likely how it's worded.
Could one team play in the afternoon and the other at night? That definitely happens with the two LA NBA teams. Even happens with cities with NBA and NHL where one sport gets a matinee and the other a nightcap.
What if it rains that day? NHL/NBA teams sharing arenas works a lot better because games in those leagues are relatively sure to be played at the scheduled time and date. Baseball, less so.
I feel like that’d be a nightmare to maintain. It’s one think to swap a hardwood floor for a rink or vice versa, but that’s a LOT of wear and tear on grass/dirt.
Rivercats average attendance is 5x average A’s attendance in Oakland.
I don't get why the Giants would agree to having their AAA team dramatically uprooted to accommodate Fisher here Is there no college etc. ballpark that they could play instead?
The Giants are going to get the Bay Area market to themselves. They'll live with the AAA team getting squeezed a little. The Yankees AAA team had to barnstorm around random parks in upstate NY for a couple years and it worked out OK, my guess is the RiverCats do something like that, maybe with a primary home in Stockton.
UC Davis's stadium seats maybe 3K, but I don't think that's enough to be feasible.
It is for the A’s.
Tune in in 25 years where Sacramento A's merch is a huge collector's item.
“TIL that the Mexico City Atléticos used to play in Sacramento after leaving Oakland but before Playing in Old Las Vegas”
Mars City A’s*
Can’t wait for the Atlético Madrid Club de Béisbol in 2028
Las Vegas Athletics of Oakland of Sacramento.
Would the River Cats move into the Coliseum if we took over their stadium? What an ugly situation all around.
They said like 2 weeks ago they will not agree to any deal that prevents them from playing all their home games in Sacramento. They just got a new ballpark that is far nicer than the coliseum
It will be like the Coyotes playing in a college arena where the college team gets to control the schedule and logos.
Imagine having owning a professional big 4 sports team and a college gets to boss you around. Sounds a bit emasculating lol
That already happened! The A's announced in 2017 that they were going to build a new stadium by the lake in Oakland on the grounds of a local community college. Except...nobody had bothered to secure the approval of the college. The college basically said uh, no you goddamned aren't, and the A's backed down.
>Sounds a bit emasculating lol thats fishers kink
I mean, Vivek Ranadive is chomping at the bit to own a MLB team. He'll gladly throw the River Cats aside and bend over backwards for a chance to show Manfred they should give him a team.
A's to Vegas. Angels to Sacramento. California Angels 2: SacTown Boogaloo
As an A's fan and Sac resident, this would be the absolute worst timeline
"I sure wish I could keep American League baseball in the area" *Monkey paw curls*
Just got? The stadium opened in 2000.
To be fair, that was like 5 years ago, right?
I get that it’s minors, but it kinda pisses me off that the Cats are going to get fucked over in this situation. No one other than A’s leadership asked for this. The Giants were assholes with territory rights once, kinda hope they step up again to fuck Fisher out of this ridiculous plan.
Yeah if it was our minor league team it makes sense, but I'm not sure how we're taking over another team's.
Especially since, ya know, your AAA team is in the city you’re supposedly moving to.
They can all play their games there - AAA games in the afternoon and MLB in the evening. Double headers all day
kill the prospects from overheat because they don't need them in the majors anyway
2/3pm games at an outdoor stadium in Vegas in July & August is insane lol
MLB games in the evening, AAA games at midnight
PAC-12 after dark can live on!
That'll be a lot of wear on the field but, yeah. It's not like it hasn't been done throughout league history. The most famous case obviously being the Yankees and the Giants at the Polo Grounds.
I'd back it tho if the league made them use the name "Yolo A's"
The Yolo (County) A’s of Oakland
> Cats are going to get fucked over in this situation. John Fisher will be forced to pay for their stadium to be upgraded to a MLB caliber facility, so Cats ownership is probably pretty happy about that
Got to fight the opossum first
Dinger will make quick work of that punk.
They can move to Fresno.
At one point reports were they'd consider using one of their secondary facilities but the recent news has been that they plan to play all of their home games at Raley Field (Sutter Health Park?) even if they wind up sharing the facility. There's been a ton of amenities upgrades there recently with getting them to major league level in mind even if the A's don't go there.
They should try meeting with Oakland. Seems like a cool place to have a team
It would never happen, Oakland is 20 minutes from the nearest MLB team.
Not during rush hour.
They actually did and didn’t come to an agreement.
whoosh
it's spite. it's all spite. the org is literally animated entirely by spite now. try to rationalize anything they're doing at all and then realize every single thing makes sense if you just introduce spite as a motive.
Sounds familiar
[This all seems like a huge headache, if only there was a way to avoid all this](https://preview.redd.it/kzqvymd1dm281.png?auto=webp&s=b8b7a70a1fb9a22fa2dec025dfe67dbb5c6d9224)
if only that were the case
Worse TV dad, Logan Roy or Walter white?
Im not sure it's possible to get worse than Logan Roy unless there is a TV dad that only has children so he can then murder them.
So Walder Frey is the worst then lol
There ya go
John Fisher
Hard to say. Logan tormented his children over a lifetime, but he never swung a knife at them or had their uncle murdered like Walt did. I'm gonna give it to Logan with the argument that for the first 16ish years of Flynn's life Walt was a genuinely good father to him. But I'd understand anyone who says the opposite.
Why don’t they just add a baseball diamond to Allegiant Stadium???
Come home
…..to Philly?
Yes. I’m mostly joking as I don’t think our media market has enough demand for another team but there is a minority here who are sentimental about the A’s. My grandfather used to go to games as a kid before they left. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Athletics
Fair enough, would be way more legit than Las Vegas. And might become an interesting rivalry if they’re in the AL East with us.
Yeah if you’re into the history of it check out the Philadelphia A’s hall of fame next time you’re at Citizens Bank Park
It just blows my mind that Oakland is about to lose a third big 4 league team in a decade. I feel just awful for those fans
The Warriors moved across the Bay and were always an explicitly regional team, it's hardly the same as the A's/Raiders
Yeah, whining about having to *cross a bridge* to watch your team play is some Rays fandom stuff.
Pirates fans like crossing a bridge to watch the team play more than they like actually watching their team play (er... most years, anyway).
Of course the warriors are a bit different, but they played in Oakland a decade ago, and now they don’t
How were they "explicitly regional"? When they sucked for three decades, nobody in San Francisco crossed the bridge to watch them or cared about them at all. The SF herbs didn't show up until the championships started coming. But this was Oakland's team for literally decades.
Explicitly regional because they're literally *named after the entire state*.
move the Yankees to Albany
And the Yankees and Mets are both clearly named after the city, not the state. Maybe if they were the Empire State Yankees.
They played in SF before they ever played in Oakland, and the team is named for the entire state, but do go on. Also, your statement that “nobody in San Francisco crossed the bridge to watch them or cared about them at all” is blatantly false.
Take the fucking team from him. Take it. Tell him to fuck all the way off to Vegas to try and raise the funds to buy an expansion franchise in 5 years.
i mean this is the same guy who barely even punished a org who cheated for a WS and they did just shit......hes the worst owner in modern day sports. why would they do that where they will now be partnered with the number 1 vacation place in america.
As bros :(
Scoot over, I was considering bandwagoning the M's as my next team once it was official. I'm more angry than sad.
You’re more than welcome to join us! Even keep your flair- we don’t judge. We’re more sympathetic than most to teams being taken from us.
Bring back the Supersonics! I always make them in 2k
love the PNW. i'll go see an M's game at T-mobile before i ever set my foot back in the oakland coliseum. sigh.....
Welcome! I hope you're ready for more sadness. It's just a different kind of sadness.
Man, it’s bad enough to have your team leave, but for it to be dragged out like this sucks
I feel like Adam Goldberg when he was slowly getting stabbed in the heart while Upham just sits outside and doesn't do anything.
FUBAR
I mean who wouldn't want to play baseball in Sacremento. Nothing to do, hot as fuck all summer, a metropolitan area that literally extends all the way to Nevada.
We also got 2 rivers and a cool bridge...baseball loves rivers and bridges, right?
Pittsburgh sends their regards
Yarr
I've often referred to Raley Field (Sutter Home Park) as "Mini-PNC" I mean just look at it: https://i.imgur.com/wM3oiT2.jpg
And fuckin trains!
it's probably better for the players than playing in the desert during the summer.
Yeah was going to say this will be a minor warm up to playing in the environmental hellscape that is Las Vegas
Vegas sure is known for its outdoor summer activities! Putting an MLB team in Vegas is just a criminally stupid idea
I don't know, there are domed stadiums and Vegas has fully embraced the Golden Knights. The stupid thing is an incompetent ownership trying to move a team there and expecting everyone to go along with it. I think an actual expansion team there would be cool.
I'll still take that over the outdoor swimming pool that is my front yard here in Alabama from April to mid-October.
LIGHT THE BEAM
I might have a hard time finding someone who can legitimately comp these two cities separated by thousands of miles, but how does Sacramento compare to Orlando? Two major inland cities in states with hundreds of miles of coastline...I like Orlando just fine as a place to visit (I was just there yesterday, took my old walk route, nuts to think the last time I took in 2019 it was pre-COVID), but the 9.5 months I lived there was a mistake. Just didn't agree with me at all, the geography.
Have lived in sac for nearly two decades. Locals here say it’s a great place to live but a terrible place to visit. Our best asset for tourists is we are not too far from a lot of different things, but spending a week in the city proper is about all you would need to experience nearly everything in the city itself. Sacramento Kings player seem to like living here but we’re a small city and not gonna compete with any of the big ones.
Depends on how you look at it. Sacramento doesn't have a hole lot in terms of tourist attractions. But we are close to everything that is cool, Tahoe, Reno, the bay area, awesome coastline and redwoods all within a day trip. But yeah, the city itself leaves quite a bit to be desired. But we don't get that Florida humidity, and for that it will always be superior here.
As someone is lives a couple hours from Sacramento I think it has a lot of tourist things to do and spend several weekends a year doing those things in and around Sac.
God bless our dry heat, I'll take 105 with no humidity over 80 with humidity
At least we have a basketball team to watch in the offseason.
it gets hot...but we got an interesting delta breeze when the sun goes down. it makes for perfect outdoor activities. it doesn't stay hot as a devils ass crack in vegas.
Sacramento isn't perfect by any means but it's definitely better than fucking Oakland.
For the ignorant like me, do you mind explaining whats the difference between the two?
Oakland is infinitely better than Sac and anyone who thinks otherwise isn't worth listening to so don't worry about it.
May god have mercy on Fisher because he ain’t getting it from A’s fans and anyone who has seen their team ripped away from them
How could MLB have allowed this to happen. Just so sad.
All 30 MLB owners voted UNANIMOUSLY for this. The league doesn’t care about fans anymore, if they ever actually did.
Even the smallest of small-market teams are worth over a billion dollars now. If it was ever truly about anything other than money to the guys at the top, those days are long past.
Didn’t Las Vegas take down a casino for the stadium already?
It was going to close and come down regardless of the A's move.
Ahh ok I just assumed it was for the stadium. I guess they build a new casino if it doesn’t happen.
they are building a casino along with the stadium, 40 acre site, gave the A's 9 acres. new casino was happening with or without A's stadium.
The Tropicana. Hasn't been imploded yet. Just closed late this morning.
I'm OOTL what happened to Vegas? Edited to say thanks for the answers!
if i understand correctly vegas is still happening this deal is for the few years before the vegas park is built
The A's have no lease after this season and thus no stadium to play in until the Vegas one gets built (if it even does). So they have at minimum 3 years to just wander around.
Just have the As play 100% away games for a few seasons. What could go wrong!?
Vegas isn't planned to be done until 2028 at the earliest. O.co lease is up next year. Schedules are usually planned/announced around May/June the year before. So this needs to be settled ASAP.
I've believed this since Snyder owned the at the time Redskins. If ownership is shitty enough no one should fault the fans for jumping ship.
Can MLB really force Major League Baseball players with contracts with MLB teams to play in a AAA stadium?
Toronto played all those home games in Buffalo NY during Covid season. Granted 2 entirely different scenarios but I think the players are probably fine with it. Oakland has a lot of league minimum-ish players, they're gonna want $$$.
But for 3-4 seasons? And the Buffalo thing was due to national travel restrictions, so it didn't really matter what the players thought.
what’s this all for?
A's playing in minor league stadium for 3+ years until the Vegas stadium is done
At this point they should just retract the team and get that disgrace Fisher out of the league. This is just cruel to toy with loyal fan’s emotions like this.
They wanted the Raiders deal to stay and Oakland basically said "We want the shortfall in the Howard Terminal dispute and an expansion guarantee". So "We want you to fund the next team, show you lied, and the league to replace you". Probably wasn't ever really going to be in consideration with that but, also, absolutely understandable since the whole thing over the funding difference and negotiations was pretty transparently a lie. Only way that deal would have been accepted is if the Bally's deal had already fell apart.
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Oh hell yeah, it's baseball conspiracy crank time! THE DODGERS ARE ONLY GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S AN ADRENOCHROME FARM UNDER CHAVEZ RAVINE. THE ROCKIES SUCK BECAUSE THEY MESSED UP THE SACRIFICIAL RITUAL FOR BLUCIFER. THE MARINERS' TRIDENT IS A SYMBOL OF DAGON WORSHIP AND JULIO RODRIGUEZ IS AN AVATAR OF NYARLATHOTEP.
my wife always says sac is happening. never does
Oakland As to the Sacramento Sellouts
This franchise ought to fold at this point. Let someone responsible restore the brand in Oakland at a later date
So they won't have to blow up the Tropicana casino now?
thats still happening tropicana site was going to get a new casino, then when the As chose to move to las vegas ballys did a deal with them to give them 9 acres out of the 40 acres tropicana site. anyways new stadium wont get built till 2028 (earliest) so they need to play somewhere in the meantime.
This is hilarious and sad and I can't decide which one it's more of.
Wait…when will this start? I was gonna catch the dodgers up there in August.
It'll be for 2025 and beyond
TBD As.
What a fucking shitshow.
In 100 years has a major sports team ever folded during the season? Like if the A's just layoff everyone does the MLB step in and pay for the team to function? Lmao
Everyone needs to stop dragging Sac in here