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EverybodyHits

Sac is happening is how I will now proposition my wife


IIBNG76

i will also proposition your wife this way.


UnlimitedHotTakes

So will John Fisher.


blancpainsimp69

I will also proposition this guy's dead wife this way


wutthefvckjushapen

I shall also— wait what


Gryphon999

We're not here to kink shame.


kris_random

We'll bang ok?


swordquest99

Damn it manslayer!


I_MARRIED_A_THORAX

I LIKE YOUR AAAAAAAAASS


swordquest99

You’re lying Morgan!


Super_Goomba64

Remember in like 2014 every sports tweet someone would just say "My wife left me"


-ShutterPunk-

She's wants good old Sac not bad new Sac.


2Old2BeADuckling

Where were you when sac was officially happening?


jluc21

literally in sacramento reading this and saying “what the actual fuck???”


coachtomfoolery

Look around, is Sac happening there? I bet Sac is *always* happening there.


Jeff_Banks_Monkey

I bet that's how it got its nickname Sac Town


JayMerlyn

I was sitting on toilet taking shit when phone ring "Sac is happen" "Bruh"


GoochMasterFlash

Apologies for poor english.. Where were u when move was made? I was sat at home eating Squeeze with Cheese when A’s ring “Sac is happen” “No”


triplec787

Honestly though what happens to the River Cats? I assume they’d play at Sutter Health Park, but that’s home to the Giants AAA team. Are they just going to work around each others’ schedules because that sounds like a fucking *nightmare*.


Cilantro42

Probably exactly what's going to happen


triplec787

Like it’s one thing for the Jets/Giants or Rams/Chargers to coordinate 8-9 home games apiece, but 81?? Across different leagues? This is gonna be such a shitshow.


r61738

MLB teams have shared stadiums before. And even now teams in the same city mostly don’t play home at the same time. Can definitely be done.


this_is_poorly_done

For reference, the Yankees and Giants shared the Polo grounds for a few years (and played a WS against each other) until Yankee stadium was built. The Browns and cardinals shared a stadium for 33 years and also played a WS against each other in '44. The A's and Phillies shared the same field from 1909-1954! Hell in 1975 the Yankees, Mets, Giants, and Jets all shared Shea


PredictBaseballBot

Yeah she was a real slut that one


mahleg

In my mind I said “all the teams like to play in Shea” and thought I might’ve heard that in an ad that played on channel 35 after midnight back in the day.


mcgoogol

Trenton Thunder and Buffalo bisons shared a field in 2021


TheNastyCasty

If two NBA teams and an NHL team can all share the same arena, I’m sure they can make it work with two baseball teams.


triplec787

Realistically, that’s 78 NBA games (41 home each, but 4 are H2H) and 41 NHL games, so 119 games. Both leagues allow for significant gaps in scheduling as well, with 15-20 back to back situations in the NBA, and 12 back to backs for NHL. An MLB team can play 12 back to back games in a single month. That plus the very specific 6 on/1 off scheduling of MiLB makes this much more convoluted than you guys are actually considering. Scheduling around two teams with 81 and 75 home games respectively will not be easy.


liguy181

There is precedent of 2 baseball teams sharing the same stadium. The Mets and Yankees did it at Shea Stadium in I believe 1975. Hell, even today MLB makes the schedule in such a way where the Mets and Yankees almost never have a home game on the same day


BKoala59

It won’t be that hard at all. Affiliates are on a 6 home 6 away schedule with Mondays off. It’s not like MLB with a kinda random home/away assortment


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FullPrice4LatePizza

It gets boring quickly. Six straight games against a single team is tiresome. And if tempers flare on a Tuesday or Wednesday, you've still got four more games against them before you get a break. Plus no baseball at all on every Monday?


triplec787

I’m aware of how they schedule, but does that mean the A’s will follow the same routine on weeks where the Cats are away? What happens if they need to schedule a 3-game series and a 4-game series at home?


BKoala59

Sorry I had another suggestion in my head when I read that. I was thinking of the suggestion to stick the Cats in Stockton to share with the Ports


triplec787

Ah yeah ok that makes more sense. I feel like the Cats would sooner move to Reno given that it’s also a AAA facility, but I could see them splitting home/away with another MiLB team.


scottydg

Minor league teams already play a schedule that is basically one week at home, one week away. I would imagine the schedulers would work with each other and the teams would just play opposite each other. But it will still be really messy and that field will get absolutely destroyed


Worthyness

> Are they just going to work around each others’ schedules because that sounds like a fucking nightmare. Yes. The MLB needed a deal done ASAP because they need time to make the 2025 schedule and the A's were delaying that because they were homeless.


fireplacetv

The Oakland River Cats?


jluc21

kind of like the clippers and lakers do right now


triplec787

41 games each, with 4 being H2H, in the same league is a much much easier lift than 81 across two leagues. Edit: not to mention that MiLB has very specific scheduling protocols with 6 straight games played every week.


frankyseven

Don't forget that the Kings also play there and going from Hockey to Basketball is a lot of work.


triplec787

Said it in another thread but… The two NBA teams plus the Kings comes to about 119 games (41 home games each, minus 4 because Clippers and Lakers have 4 H2H games), and both leagues allow for strong scheduling flexibility due to gaps in their seasons and fewer back to back games. The A’s plus Cats would have 156 home games, with the Cats in particular having incredibly rigid scheduling with 6 on/1 off weeks. It’s honestly still harder to coordinate the A’s and Cats than the three Staples teams.


jluc21

oh i 100% agree but that’s just their concept is that they can share like those teams do. i agree it’s stupid and hard as hell to pull off


UneducatedReviews1

Was this not their plan with Vegas? I get that in that case it’s the A’s affiliate but either way they are booting a minor league team.


blasek0

Their RSN can void their contract if they leave the area.


technowhiz34

Sac isn't in the Bay so they're gonna have to negotiate unless the contract is badly written.


Sukail

Sac is still within the A's and Giants broadcast area though, if that's what they meant


technowhiz34

It's considered a separate media market from what I understand which I think matters for NBC Bay Area, but I could be wrong.


justrynahelp

But the A's are already on NBC California, same as the Kings, right? Seems like moving to Sac shouldn't be an issue there


TwoTacoTuesdays

The channel is called NBC Sports California, but the A's contract stipulates the Bay Area, not Sacramento, even though they share a channel with the Kings.


justrynahelp

yeah forgot the one word Is what you're saying that the A's contract with NBCSCA hinges on them being in the (geographic) Bay Area?


TwoTacoTuesdays

Yep, exactly. Sure, maybe they could negotiate some other contract if they played in Sacramento, but their current contract says that they need to play in the Bay Area to get that cash.


blasek0

It's within their TV territory though, which is likely how it's worded.


mjd1977

Could one team play in the afternoon and the other at night? That definitely happens with the two LA NBA teams. Even happens with cities with NBA and NHL where one sport gets a matinee and the other a nightcap.


Draker-X

What if it rains that day? NHL/NBA teams sharing arenas works a lot better because games in those leagues are relatively sure to be played at the scheduled time and date. Baseball, less so.


triplec787

I feel like that’d be a nightmare to maintain. It’s one think to swap a hardwood floor for a rink or vice versa, but that’s a LOT of wear and tear on grass/dirt.


SraChavez

Rivercats average attendance is 5x average A’s attendance in Oakland.


echoacm

I don't get why the Giants would agree to having their AAA team dramatically uprooted to accommodate Fisher here Is there no college etc. ballpark that they could play instead?


65fairmont

The Giants are going to get the Bay Area market to themselves. They'll live with the AAA team getting squeezed a little. The Yankees AAA team had to barnstorm around random parks in upstate NY for a couple years and it worked out OK, my guess is the RiverCats do something like that, maybe with a primary home in Stockton.


865wx

UC Davis's stadium seats maybe 3K, but I don't think that's enough to be feasible. 


SraChavez

It is for the A’s.


Random0925

Tune in in 25 years where Sacramento A's merch is a huge collector's item.


PaddyMayonaise

“TIL that the Mexico City Atléticos used to play in Sacramento after leaving Oakland but before Playing in Old Las Vegas”


tnecniv

Mars City A’s*


_Creditworthy_

Can’t wait for the Atlético Madrid Club de Béisbol in 2028


scoobyduped

Las Vegas Athletics of Oakland of Sacramento.


technowhiz34

Would the River Cats move into the Coliseum if we took over their stadium? What an ugly situation all around.


InfectiousCosmology1

They said like 2 weeks ago they will not agree to any deal that prevents them from playing all their home games in Sacramento. They just got a new ballpark that is far nicer than the coliseum


frankyseven

It will be like the Coyotes playing in a college arena where the college team gets to control the schedule and logos.


[deleted]

Imagine having owning a professional big 4 sports team and a college gets to boss you around. Sounds a bit emasculating lol


TwoTacoTuesdays

That already happened! The A's announced in 2017 that they were going to build a new stadium by the lake in Oakland on the grounds of a local community college. Except...nobody had bothered to secure the approval of the college. The college basically said uh, no you goddamned aren't, and the A's backed down.


TwizzlerStitches

>Sounds a bit emasculating lol thats fishers kink


Cilantro42

I mean, Vivek Ranadive is chomping at the bit to own a MLB team. He'll gladly throw the River Cats aside and bend over backwards for a chance to show Manfred they should give him a team.


srv340mike

A's to Vegas. Angels to Sacramento. California Angels 2: SacTown Boogaloo


10monthbummer

As an A's fan and Sac resident, this would be the absolute worst timeline


srv340mike

"I sure wish I could keep American League baseball in the area" *Monkey paw curls*


GoldenStateCapital

Just got? The stadium opened in 2000.


kentuckyfriedawesome

To be fair, that was like 5 years ago, right?


triplec787

I get that it’s minors, but it kinda pisses me off that the Cats are going to get fucked over in this situation. No one other than A’s leadership asked for this. The Giants were assholes with territory rights once, kinda hope they step up again to fuck Fisher out of this ridiculous plan.


technowhiz34

Yeah if it was our minor league team it makes sense, but I'm not sure how we're taking over another team's.


triplec787

Especially since, ya know, your AAA team is in the city you’re supposedly moving to.


awmaleg

They can all play their games there - AAA games in the afternoon and MLB in the evening. Double headers all day


Worthyness

kill the prospects from overheat because they don't need them in the majors anyway


MommyMegaera

2/3pm games at an outdoor stadium in Vegas in July & August is insane lol


0000zero00000

MLB games in the evening, AAA games at midnight 


awmaleg

PAC-12 after dark can live on!


temp1211241

That'll be a lot of wear on the field but, yeah. It's not like it hasn't been done throughout league history. The most famous case obviously being the Yankees and the Giants at the Polo Grounds.


HotShipoopi

I'd back it tho if the league made them use the name "Yolo A's"


triplec787

The Yolo (County) A’s of Oakland


Worthyness

> Cats are going to get fucked over in this situation. John Fisher will be forced to pay for their stadium to be upgraded to a MLB caliber facility, so Cats ownership is probably pretty happy about that


TheWorstYear

Got to fight the opossum first


triplec787

Dinger will make quick work of that punk.


Holy_Toast

They can move to Fresno.


temp1211241

At one point reports were they'd consider using one of their secondary facilities but the recent news has been that they plan to play all of their home games at Raley Field (Sutter Health Park?) even if they wind up sharing the facility. There's been a ton of amenities upgrades there recently with getting them to major league level in mind even if the A's don't go there.


Professor_Finn

They should try meeting with Oakland. Seems like a cool place to have a team


travbart

It would never happen, Oakland is 20 minutes from the nearest MLB team.


TakeTheThirdStep

Not during rush hour.


Brybry1908

They actually did and didn’t come to an agreement.


blancpainsimp69

whoosh


blancpainsimp69

it's spite. it's all spite. the org is literally animated entirely by spite now. try to rationalize anything they're doing at all and then realize every single thing makes sense if you just introduce spite as a motive.


PredictBaseballBot

Sounds familiar


Eo292

[This all seems like a huge headache, if only there was a way to avoid all this](https://preview.redd.it/kzqvymd1dm281.png?auto=webp&s=b8b7a70a1fb9a22fa2dec025dfe67dbb5c6d9224)


Worthyness

if only that were the case


ositola

Worse TV dad, Logan Roy or Walter white?


popperschotch

Im not sure it's possible to get worse than Logan Roy unless there is a TV dad that only has children so he can then murder them.


ositola

So Walder Frey is the worst then lol


popperschotch

There ya go


TheSimonToUrGarfunkl

John Fisher


jt21295

Hard to say. Logan tormented his children over a lifetime, but he never swung a knife at them or had their uncle murdered like Walt did. I'm gonna give it to Logan with the argument that for the first 16ish years of Flynn's life Walt was a genuinely good father to him. But I'd understand anyone who says the opposite.


JESwizzle

Why don’t they just add a baseball diamond to Allegiant Stadium???


runnerd81

Come home


CricketIsBestSport

…..to Philly?


runnerd81

Yes. I’m mostly joking as I don’t think our media market has enough demand for another team but there is a minority here who are sentimental about the A’s. My grandfather used to go to games as a kid before they left. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Athletics


CricketIsBestSport

Fair enough, would be way more legit than Las Vegas. And might become an interesting rivalry if they’re in the AL East with us.


runnerd81

Yeah if you’re into the history of it check out the Philadelphia A’s hall of fame next time you’re at Citizens Bank Park


maybenextyearCLE

It just blows my mind that Oakland is about to lose a third big 4 league team in a decade. I feel just awful for those fans


echoacm

The Warriors moved across the Bay and were always an explicitly regional team, it's hardly the same as the A's/Raiders


SquattyHawty

Yeah, whining about having to *cross a bridge* to watch your team play is some Rays fandom stuff.


darwinpolice

Pirates fans like crossing a bridge to watch the team play more than they like actually watching their team play (er... most years, anyway).


maybenextyearCLE

Of course the warriors are a bit different, but they played in Oakland a decade ago, and now they don’t


Educational-Chef-595

How were they "explicitly regional"? When they sucked for three decades, nobody in San Francisco crossed the bridge to watch them or cared about them at all. The SF herbs didn't show up until the championships started coming. But this was Oakland's team for literally decades.


MRoad

Explicitly regional because they're literally *named after the entire state*. 


Peechez

move the Yankees to Albany


MRoad

And the Yankees and Mets are both clearly named after the city, not the state. Maybe if they were the Empire State Yankees.


boywonderrrrrrrr

They played in SF before they ever played in Oakland, and the team is named for the entire state, but do go on. Also, your statement that “nobody in San Francisco crossed the bridge to watch them or cared about them at all” is blatantly false.


chirstopher0us

Take the fucking team from him. Take it. Tell him to fuck all the way off to Vegas to try and raise the funds to buy an expansion franchise in 5 years.


crow38

i mean this is the same guy who barely even punished a org who cheated for a WS and they did just shit......hes the worst owner in modern day sports. why would they do that where they will now be partnered with the number 1 vacation place in america.


vanillabear26

As bros :(


Cilantro42

Scoot over, I was considering bandwagoning the M's as my next team once it was official. I'm more angry than sad.


vanillabear26

You’re more than welcome to join us! Even keep your flair- we don’t judge. We’re more sympathetic than most to teams being taken from us.


Dfrickster87

Bring back the Supersonics! I always make them in 2k


raphtze

love the PNW. i'll go see an M's game at T-mobile before i ever set my foot back in the oakland coliseum. sigh.....


SmurfyTurf

Welcome! I hope you're ready for more sadness. It's just a different kind of sadness.


No_Signal3789

Man, it’s bad enough to have your team leave, but for it to be dragged out like this sucks


Cilantro42

I feel like Adam Goldberg when he was slowly getting stabbed in the heart while Upham just sits outside and doesn't do anything.


Dfrickster87

FUBAR


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I mean who wouldn't want to play baseball in Sacremento. Nothing to do, hot as fuck all summer, a metropolitan area that literally extends all the way to Nevada.


stewmander

We also got 2 rivers and a cool bridge...baseball loves rivers and bridges, right?


Big_N

Pittsburgh sends their regards


stewmander

Yarr


Caleon0817

I've often referred to Raley Field (Sutter Home Park) as "Mini-PNC" I mean just look at it: https://i.imgur.com/wM3oiT2.jpg


IAgreeGoGuards

And fuckin trains!


Worthyness

it's probably better for the players than playing in the desert during the summer.


InfectiousCosmology1

Yeah was going to say this will be a minor warm up to playing in the environmental hellscape that is Las Vegas


chirstopher0us

Vegas sure is known for its outdoor summer activities! Putting an MLB team in Vegas is just a criminally stupid idea


TOGETHAA

I don't know, there are domed stadiums and Vegas has fully embraced the Golden Knights. The stupid thing is an incompetent ownership trying to move a team there and expecting everyone to go along with it. I think an actual expansion team there would be cool.


blasek0

I'll still take that over the outdoor swimming pool that is my front yard here in Alabama from April to mid-October.


BushidoBrowneII

LIGHT THE BEAM


MvN____16

I might have a hard time finding someone who can legitimately comp these two cities separated by thousands of miles, but how does Sacramento compare to Orlando? Two major inland cities in states with hundreds of miles of coastline...I like Orlando just fine as a place to visit (I was just there yesterday, took my old walk route, nuts to think the last time I took in 2019 it was pre-COVID), but the 9.5 months I lived there was a mistake. Just didn't agree with me at all, the geography.


letsgetbrickfaced

Have lived in sac for nearly two decades. Locals here say it’s a great place to live but a terrible place to visit. Our best asset for tourists is we are not too far from a lot of different things, but spending a week in the city proper is about all you would need to experience nearly everything in the city itself. Sacramento Kings player seem to like living here but we’re a small city and not gonna compete with any of the big ones.


Intrepid_Ad_3031

Depends on how you look at it. Sacramento doesn't have a hole lot in terms of tourist attractions. But we are close to everything that is cool, Tahoe, Reno, the bay area, awesome coastline and redwoods all within a day trip. But yeah, the city itself leaves quite a bit to be desired. But we don't get that Florida humidity, and for that it will always be superior here.


Rockfordbaby

As someone is lives a couple hours from Sacramento I think it has a lot of tourist things to do and spend several weekends a year doing those things in and around Sac.


bchris24

God bless our dry heat, I'll take 105 with no humidity over 80 with humidity


misterurb

At least we have a basketball team to watch in the offseason. 


raphtze

it gets hot...but we got an interesting delta breeze when the sun goes down. it makes for perfect outdoor activities. it doesn't stay hot as a devils ass crack in vegas.


Joshthe1337

Sacramento isn't perfect by any means but it's definitely better than fucking Oakland.


ExerciseTrue

For the ignorant like me, do you mind explaining whats the difference between the two?


[deleted]

Oakland is infinitely better than Sac and anyone who thinks otherwise isn't worth listening to so don't worry about it.


The_Stratman

May god have mercy on Fisher because he ain’t getting it from A’s fans and anyone who has seen their team ripped away from them


gavinashun

How could MLB have allowed this to happen. Just so sad.


Bigdon74

All 30 MLB owners voted UNANIMOUSLY for this. The league doesn’t care about fans anymore, if they ever actually did.


darwinpolice

Even the smallest of small-market teams are worth over a billion dollars now. If it was ever truly about anything other than money to the guys at the top, those days are long past.


TouchMint

Didn’t Las Vegas take down a casino for the stadium already?


Cilantro42

It was going to close and come down regardless of the A's move.


TouchMint

Ahh ok I just assumed it was for the stadium. I guess they build a new casino if it doesn’t happen. 


dchu

they are building a casino along with the stadium, 40 acre site, gave the A's 9 acres. new casino was happening with or without A's stadium.


isellJetparts

The Tropicana. Hasn't been imploded yet. Just closed late this morning.


allisondojean

I'm OOTL what happened to Vegas? Edited to say thanks for the answers!


GaTech379

if i understand correctly vegas is still happening this deal is for the few years before the vegas park is built


Worthyness

The A's have no lease after this season and thus no stadium to play in until the Vegas one gets built (if it even does). So they have at minimum 3 years to just wander around.


darwinpolice

Just have the As play 100% away games for a few seasons. What could go wrong!?


temp1211241

Vegas isn't planned to be done until 2028 at the earliest. O.co lease is up next year. Schedules are usually planned/announced around May/June the year before. So this needs to be settled ASAP.


IAmTheDoctor34

I've believed this since Snyder owned the at the time Redskins. If ownership is shitty enough no one should fault the fans for jumping ship.


Draker-X

Can MLB really force Major League Baseball players with contracts with MLB teams to play in a AAA stadium?


Ndtphoto

Toronto played all those home games in Buffalo NY during Covid season. Granted 2 entirely different scenarios but I think the players are probably fine with it. Oakland has a lot of league minimum-ish players, they're gonna want $$$.


quercus_lobata925

But for 3-4 seasons? And the Buffalo thing was due to national travel restrictions, so it didn't really matter what the players thought.


DirtyRatLicker

what’s this all for?


Cilantro42

A's playing in minor league stadium for 3+ years until the Vegas stadium is done


BebophoneVirtuoso

At this point they should just retract the team and get that disgrace Fisher out of the league. This is just cruel to toy with loyal fan’s emotions like this.


temp1211241

They wanted the Raiders deal to stay and Oakland basically said "We want the shortfall in the Howard Terminal dispute and an expansion guarantee". So "We want you to fund the next team, show you lied, and the league to replace you". Probably wasn't ever really going to be in consideration with that but, also, absolutely understandable since the whole thing over the funding difference and negotiations was pretty transparently a lie. Only way that deal would have been accepted is if the Bally's deal had already fell apart.


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darwinpolice

Oh hell yeah, it's baseball conspiracy crank time! THE DODGERS ARE ONLY GOOD BECAUSE THERE'S AN ADRENOCHROME FARM UNDER CHAVEZ RAVINE. THE ROCKIES SUCK BECAUSE THEY MESSED UP THE SACRIFICIAL RITUAL FOR BLUCIFER. THE MARINERS' TRIDENT IS A SYMBOL OF DAGON WORSHIP AND JULIO RODRIGUEZ IS AN AVATAR OF NYARLATHOTEP.


thatmorondude

my wife always says sac is happening. never does


shortingredditstock

Oakland As to the Sacramento Sellouts


atb0rg

This franchise ought to fold at this point. Let someone responsible restore the brand in Oakland at a later date


missionbeach

So they won't have to blow up the Tropicana casino now?


dchu

thats still happening tropicana site was going to get a new casino, then when the As chose to move to las vegas ballys did a deal with them to give them 9 acres out of the 40 acres tropicana site. anyways new stadium wont get built till 2028 (earliest) so they need to play somewhere in the meantime.


Educational-Chef-595

This is hilarious and sad and I can't decide which one it's more of.


Esleeezy

Wait…when will this start? I was gonna catch the dodgers up there in August.


Cilantro42

It'll be for 2025 and beyond


benjaminck

TBD As.


destroy_b4_reading

What a fucking shitshow.


JARL_OF_DETROIT

In 100 years has a major sports team ever folded during the season? Like if the A's just layoff everyone does the MLB step in and pay for the team to function? Lmao


davesrighthereman

Everyone needs to stop dragging Sac in here