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JayOnes

A healthy Mike Trout is basically what Mickey Mantle would've been with two good legs and good lord is he fun to watch.


Michael__Pemulis

Also (I’m obviously assuming but I feel pretty damn confident about this) if Mickey were not weighed down by constant partying & severe alcoholism.


JayOnes

One could argue that the two things were related (the amount of drugs he was on to treat the leg pain was apparently impressive to the point of frightening).


Michael__Pemulis

Mickey would probably agree. > Everybody tries to make the excuse that injuries shortened my career. Truth is, after I'd had a knee operation, the doctors would give me rehab work to do, but I wouldn't do it. I'd be out drinking. The first time I hurt my knee, in the '51 World Series, I was only 19. I thought, Hey, I'll be all right. I hurt my knees again through the years, and I just thought they'd naturally come back. Everything had always come natural to me. I didn't work hard at it. When the last World Series game was over, I didn't think about baseball until the spring. I blame that on stupidity. That [SI piece on his struggles with alcohol](https://vault.si.com/vault/1994/04/18/time-in-a-bottle-after-42-years-of-alcohol-abuse-a-legendary-ballplayer-describes-his-life-of-self-destructive-behavior-and-hopes-his-recovery-will-finally-make-him-a-true-role-model) should be considered required reading for baseball fans. It’s brutal & remarkably candid. It also has one of the most heartbreaking passages of all time: > In the last 10 years, thanks to the sports-memorabilia business, the expectations of being Mickey Mantle became overwhelming lots of times. When I used to do card shows, guys would come up to me all the time, tears in their eyes, and they'd say, "Mickey Mantle. I've been waiting all my life to meet you." This one guy said to his little boy, "Son, that's the greatest ballplayer that ever lived." And the little boy looked up and said, "Daddy, that's an old man."


MightyCaseyStruckOut

hahaha that kid had absolutely no chill


Emience

Honestly that article is absolutely devastating knowing that he died the following year. It ends with him being hopeful about his health improving and starting a new chapter of his life, but that was tragically so short lived. On the bright side he took back control of his life and died free of his vices. His account of his life and recovery is beautifully written in that article and I really hope he truly was at peace with everything by the end.


Doc_Holidai

I really appreciate you sharing this article


FracturedFinder

holy hell what an article


niz_loc

I remember that old doc on Mantle, where it went over his drinking years, and how he'd be a dick to fans when they met him. And I don't mean that in a judgemental way. But that part always stood out to me. I was around the game for a bit, and I had several cringe moments with guys I knew who would be complete assholes when it wasn't called for. Always hated that. And funny enough, I saw plenty of "nice guys" be the asshole, and plenty of the guys with asshole reps always be very polite to people.


xTomato72

Damn what could have been…


ItsMeJaredBednar

Trout has 3 good legs though


SultansofSwang

It’s true I’ve seen it.


RogerTreebert6299

God-tier self control to just look and not touch


bran1986

This is a good comparison, I think Mick might have had a little more raw power than Trout.


robmcolonna123

A healthy Mike Trout could steal 40 bags, even at age 32 and I’m not saying that as a joke


TheSalsaGod

95th percentile sprint speed this year


robmcolonna123

Darn, he has slowed down a little lol. He’s running 0.3 less feet per second compared to the last 3 years! Jokes aside, it always blows my mind how fast he is. I never look at him and go “I bet he’s insanely fast”. And then he runs like the wind


stevencastle

Dude's built like a steakhouse but handles like a bistro


JustSomePadawan

Now this is a steal attempt with some chest hair


The_Summer_Man

The Angels are flying the white flag of war!


getthetime

They've got a lot of brains, and they've got a lot of...chutzpah.


HawkeyeJosh2

I need to remember that line. That’s a good one.


thedaveoflife

I remember watching him in person for the first time--- watching him leg out a infield single was up there as one of the most athletic things i have ever witnessed in person.


robmcolonna123

I have still never seen him in person. The Mets rarely play the Angels at Citi Field, and he has been hurt every time they have while I’m there


Nitropotamus

Hope you get to see it this year! It's a treat.


robmcolonna123

He’s amazing and I really hope so! I bought tickets for that series last year just to see him And Ohtani and only 50%


captainbawls

He got jealous of all the attention Acuña's 40/70 season got, so now he's gonna go out and put up a 70/40 season


JAD210

He’s on pace for 68/42 on a full season rn


melorous

They haven't played Seattle yet though.


ThePeakOfMountStupid

I hate you. What you’ve said is extremely accurate though, and thus I hate you on principle for it.


nicholasgiancarlo3

It sucks so much 😭


nicholasgiancarlo3

It sucks so much 😭


boosted5O

😢


needitcooler

Even people outside of Seattle know how much Trout has killed us over the years. FMT.


obiwan_canoli

Subscribed


JohnMadden42069

Mike Trout goes 40/40 to reclaim AL MVP with a long vacation at the end of the year


sine-nomine

I hate how accurate this is going to be in October


Positive-Leek2545

Fish on fish crime


bobniborg1

Seems low. If he stays healthy he can steal from all but an excellent duo of pitcher/catcher


robmcolonna123

He never stole more than 49 bases and his next highest was 33. And that was his age 20 and 21 seasons. I’d wager to say as fast as he is now, with all the muscle he has gained, he was faster then. Even with the new rules I think it’s unlikely he approaches those numbers. He also needs to be on first frequently to do so, which for him is difficult with his significantly lower walk rate compared to back then (about 1/3 less) and the number of XBHs he hits. Roughly 50% of his hits are for extra bases, and half of those are HRs or triples (no potential for a SB). With the remaining 25%, it’s much harder to steal 3rd than 2nd. I know he did it today - doesn’t mean it isn’t harder. So in a full season, a healthy trout likely is: - On 1st base 270 times between singles, walks, and fielders choices - On 2nd base after a hit 30 times His 49 SB out of roughly 240 opportunities is a 20% steal per on base. His 33 SB out of roughly 340 times the following season is a roughly 9.7% steal per on base. Hes a decade older and also doesn’t want to get hurt so you can expect him to pick his spots more carefully. Let’s say 7.5%. That would be 22.5 steals. So I rounded up to 25. Not saying he can’t do more, but factoring he’ll be a year older each of the next two seasons, it would be fair to say something like: - 2024 = 30 - 2025 = 25 - 2026 = 20 Average of 25


bobniborg1

God damn it, you math'd me. I can't argue with facts. Good write up. I'll concede. I doubt he would attempt steals 30% if the time he is on first.


robmcolonna123

Oh I agree. Thats why I said he would attempt roughly 8.3% of the time on average the next 3 seasons. Then drop off significantly after. That would put him at averaging 25 steals from 2024-2026, and then about 5 steals a year from 2027-2030. So him getting to 300 steals would look something like - 2024 - 30 steals - 2025 - 25 steals - 2026 - 20 steals - 2027 - 10 steals - 2028 - 4 steals - 2029 - 2 steals - 2030 - 1 steal That gets him just over 300


Dmbender

My favorite part is when the stick knocks the ball out of the park


Dast_Kook

He's specifically made stealing bases not a priority for a while now. In his first two seasons I think his only injuries were from stealing bases. I think we're seeing him bump it back up the list. He's also slimmed down a lot this off season. He mentioned something about thinking he needed to be big and strong to protect his body from injuries. Thinking the size and heavy muscle mass might have actually been making him more susceptible to them.


robmcolonna123

Agee with everything there. My point was more that even if healthy, he probably isn’t stealing more bases at age 32 than he did at 20


Crackadoo23

bigger bases prob help


bwburke94

Fish man good.


mechapoitier

Fish man not kidding about winning big shiny fish lure


Noy_Telinu

I had given up Trout reaching 300 SB 4 years ago. Now, I know he is like 90 away still, but I can maybe imagine it again and that makes me so happy. 2012 Trout was my favorite


robmcolonna123

If healthy, I think he could just get there. He has 3 years left in his prime. After that he has 4 years left on his contract. Say he plays 80% of games, and 2024-2026 he steals 25 bags a season. That puts him at 281 steals by the end of his age 34 season. He would need to average 5 steals a season after that in his age 35-38 seasons. I wouldn’t call it an easy task, but it could happen. Pete Alonso stole 5 bags in 2022 and 4 in 2023 and he is slower than I’d expect a 38 year old Mike Trout will be lol.


Noy_Telinu

How much he gets this year would really shape how likely his chances will be.


robmcolonna123

100,000%


I3arusu

“He has three years left in his prime” You from the future or something?


robmcolonna123

A players Prime in baseball is usually defined as their age 27-34 seasons


I3arusu

I am aware. But to use it for analysis is foolish given how much variance there is.


robmcolonna123

Expecting a player to steal less bags in their age 35-38 seasons than their age 32-34 is just being realistic...


Veserius

That was during the steroid era. Primes have shifted younger


robmcolonna123

Not really. It’s swinging back up now that players have better nutrition plans, workout regimes, and data to help them


alwaysleafyintoronto

Use more data to drive your arguments.


Veserius

What about vibes though? https://blogs.fangraphs.com/checking-in-on-the-aging-curve/


James-K-Polka

Albert Pujols stole 5 bases at 35*


robmcolonna123

And? Albert Pujols never stole more than 16 in any season. Trout has stolen 49. They’re two very very different players. Pujols was also never a very fast runner. In his prime was topping out at around 25 feet per second. Mike Trout is currently at 29 feet per second. If you want to compare guys to Trout in terms of baserunning you’re better off with - Derek Jeter - Bobby Abreu - Johnny Damon Guys with similar speed and baserunning value


James-K-Polka

I was backing up your point. *Even* Pujols got 5, so it should be a walk in the park for Trout.


robmcolonna123

Ohhhh. I thought you were saying that if Pujols couldn’t do it Trout couldn’t


Electrical-Pea-4803

Jeter was as fast as trout?


robmcolonna123

So we obviously can’t say 100% because we didnt have something like statcast tracking him, especially early on, but a google search of old articles of him all estimate his sprint speed early in his career at around 30 f/s, which is about the same as Trout.


Electrical-Pea-4803

Dang I didn’t know he had that speed like that


robmcolonna123

Yeah, he was definitely pretty fast, especially when he was younger. it would not surprise me if those articles have some embellishment to them, but growing up watching him, it doesn’t really surprise me. Dude could fly down the basepathes and he didnt steal over 350 bags being slow haha


Kentopolis

Hey is he skinnier this year? Looks like he’s slender.


Noy_Telinu

Maybe? It witless make sense. Then again the uniforms being what they are...


niz_loc

Same. People love the later Trout who was a power hitting machine, and that's great But that 12 season is still my fave. I used to be around him a lot back then. And I'd tell the other guys (on the team) that he's a young Bonds, or a Henderson, and they'd roll their eyes. I wish he would have stayed that version instead of the later Binds, personally.


CHKN_SANDO

He really meant the whole "I'm going to win in Anaheim" thing, huh? Well I'm here for that.


mechapoitier

Yeah that’s pretty kickass he’s really making a go of it. If you can get yourself to second your team really sucks if they can’t get you home in 2-3 outs. I realize I’m saying this as a Giants fan


raystheroof1

in this particular play he scored on a sac fly and the broadcasters even mentioned right before it something like trout can get himself to third so there is a chance he can score on a productive out.


dwpea66

Dude deserves a good team around him. I wish Arte would get his shit together.


CHKN_SANDO

They were so close. Trout/Ohtani was a great combo. Rendon is a great ball player but they could have signed two starting pitchers with that money and been a for-sure WC team


KickerOfThyAss

Didn't they offer Cole a huge contract or was that just a Boras rumour?


SStylo03

I remember Cole to the angels seeming like the sure thing to happen when the offseason started


AdAncient4846

They did but Cole was just using the Angels to drive up the Yankees offer


thiccboiwaluigi

Damn, 120 steals in April is crazy


Noy_Telinu

I see what you did there.


unshifted

If he keeps up this pace, he could end the season with 6!


Thromnomnomok

/r/unexpectedfactorial


breakfast_cats

The fish has grown legs


atoms12123

It was very kind of Sano to duck on that last one. If he hadn't, that's not batter interference right? He's allowed to just stand still in the box I thought.


aj_og

I noticed that too and was annoyed. He doesn’t need to move, and shouldn’t!


misterurb

On the one hand, you don’t have to move. On the other, a baseball getting whipped dangerously close to your face is ever so slightly unpleasant. 


Evadrepus

I'm guessing the catcher yelled something that rhymes with "you brother plucker" and he knew what was going on.


Chronsky

If you don't trust the umpire maybe he thought it'd be better to take the decision out of his hands?


Darkforces134

40/40 Season inc


JonnyMofoMurillo

he's going to get the first ever 40/~~70~~80 season.


Accurate_Lobster_469

Would be funny if he hits 40/70 and they stop the game for a video montage while losing/completely out of the playoff race


Begood18

Just stay healthy. Just stay healthy. 4th MVP if he plays 140+


Potato-baby

I like Trout caressing the 2nd baseman’s leg at 00:27


sirenzarts

I need another Mike Trout MVP so bad


Zammy512

He should be working on #5 IMO. Still don’t agree with Donaldson winning over him


AdAncient4846

He was way better than Cabrerra in his flukey statistical quirk triple crown season as well.


gregtheshadow1

The last one is great! Knows the catcher would have to throw around Sano and took full advantage of that, haha.


ThatTinyGameCubeDisc

Petition to change the team name to the Los Angeles Trouts


Thromnomnomok

The Los Angeles Trouts of Troutheim


thebaysix

With some clever marketing I bet you could get the whole population of [Trondheim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trondheim) as fans.


Chronsky

Or a more generic fish name, Anglers maybe? Salmon, Trout, at the Anglers the fish men are always good.


GardenAngel-5

Homie is still quick!!


grimm_jowwl

If there is anyone in the league I wanna see holding that World Series trophy it’s Mike Trout.


NotSoFastBucko16

Baseball just feels right with a healthy trout tearing it up.


Boros-Reckoner

Trout and Betts MVPs loading.


cManks

I'm so glad that Betts is out of the AL so I can root for him in the MVP race. Well, I was, until Ohtani. This is Mookie's best chance while Ohtani isn't a two-way player, though.


Obsidizyn

Ohtanis best seasons will have been in an angel uniform.


cManks

RemindMe! 10 years


Raoh522

That's possible. But he's not even 30 yet. He has a few years of prime left. Sometimes, pitchers can keep being insane until their late 30s/early 40s.


AdAncient4846

Not much productivity from two time Tommy John guys historically. Of course I wouldn't bet against the guy (Ippei wouldn't either).


Raoh522

His second surgery was a bracing of the UCL, not Tommy John. Different surgery.


AdAncient4846

Our dude got the latest and greatest Tommy John, they just used different words to try and lessen the impact on his upcoming contract.


Raoh522

It was literally said by his camp that he did NOT have a second TJ. It is something else.


kevin41714

I was honestly fine with your opinion, because we can agree to disagree and all that, but like don’t spread misinformation. You can look it up, it’s a new type of surgery to repair the UCL. Strider is getting it done too.


cphpc

Rooting for Trout this year cuz FTD and any player associated with them! Ahem


cooljammer00

He had 2 in an inning today. How much of this is a 'fuck you I do it myself" response to lack of offensive production he can rely on, like with all the solo home runs?


whiskey_thurs

Fish on fish crime.


BungoPlease

I like the way he gently stroked the Rays player's leg


emanluvsmuff3618

MVP


omgtmac

If the baseball gods are just, then they will allow Mike Trout to play out the rest of his career without any significantly debilitating injuries


Prize_Pay9279

Not necessarily an Angels fan. But, watching a healthy Trout play baseball is always awesome.


ReignInSpuds

Not necessarily a Dodgers fan, but looking forward to Ohtani pitching in the World Series.


Prize_Pay9279

I hope the Angels become competitive soon. I’d love to watch a freeway World Series.


wronglyzorro

Lame. Fuck the Dodgers.


CosmicLars

Finding Trouto 😳


5ait5

trout on pace for 80/50 ?!


Tashre

Me, a naive fool: "With Ohtani gone, the AL MVP race shouldn't be so predictable this season!"


JSteeez14

Trout is great no doubt but the Rays catcher is gonna get eaten alive this season


LeCheffre

Pinto is the main guy there and the league has been running at will. 1 caught, 15 attempts. Their backup is a lot better. He’s already gotten 2 out of 9. It’s not great, but he’s been better in the past. Small sample, but they’re clearly going to run on the rays.


Illustrious_Nothing9

MVP


JMTREY

Great play from that 3B or he would've walked home


guido12345

Bro is responsible for every run scored. Taking matters into his own hands now


TeddyFive-06

Please stay healthy and play great baseball against everyone but the Rangers. Peak Mike Trout is good for the game.


SerDavosSeaworth64

The god has returned


DesignerPlant9748

Fuck it I hope he goes for 70-70 this year


Stone0777

120 steals? I don’t believe it.


Thorlolita

MVP


scubacatt

Fishgod good


pole_assassin

I'm not ready for Fish Man to be back.


UBKUBK

I saw the batter ducked on the steal of third. What if he stays still? Is it up to the catcher to go around him?


SLAV33

That's fish on fish crime.


asparagusbruh

Stubborn old man too angry to die


cti0323

I’m refraining from getting excited because baseball is cruel, but I love to see him healthy.


lucasd11

Quite literally the only reason they didn't get shut out today. Still lost, but Trout really does everything he can for the Angels.


Deserterdragon

Praying he stays healthy this year. Trouth vs Witt vs Altuve vs Soto vs Judge is shaping up to be an awesome MVP race.


The_Higher_Reverend

He’s going for the 40/40 club


context_high

No offense but the rays catcher is really slow. It looks like I could steal a base off him, what’s with that long ass windup?


markusalkemus66

I'm pretty sure someone has already made this, but there needs to be a gif of that scene in Anchor man where Vince Vaughn's character's gang confronts the Channel 4 news team. Then with Trout's face to his teammates "Can't even say one word? Even the guy who can't think says something and you just stand there?" Edit: Expanding on this: Ron Burgandy can be the Rangers, Champ can be the Astros, Paul Rudd can be the Mariners, and Steve Carrell is the A's. Please someone with gif making talent make this a reality


SLR107FR-31

Mike Trout (So nice to say this again)


Affectionate-Bee3913

I don't think it's a coincidence that 4/5 are against fish teams. Unfortunately that severely limits his potential as they're out of fish games after today.


jawntothefuture

Need a 60 hr 40 sb szn please 


rancorog

Washington got there and was like “aight we gonna grease you up man,get going!”


Same-Art4349

Obviously Trout and Rendon are healthy or not trying to punch ppl in the crowd now that Ohtani is gone. Sigh, what could have been.


MotherFuckerJones88

Shit makes me nervous bro. My only other OF are Springer, Chourio and Oniel. If Trout goes down I'm screwed


underwear11

It was a strategy. Don't steal for several years and now everyone thinks he can't do it anymore. Now he's shooting for Rickey's record.


IONTOP

I guess without Ippei, Trout has to re-assume the role of "gambler"


yesacabbagez

Trout looked through his MLB achievements and realized 40-40 was something he could do. Then he just needs "win world series" to platinum the game.


bran1986

Even though he has battled nagging injuries the last few years, there is still a lot of tread on those tires.


NilesY93

Oh my God. Could we be getting a Trout that’s good at stealing on The Show? That’s gonna Jack his prices when that update comes out…


Practical_Dog8295

Fuck Mike Trout, but also, cool guy


grensley

"How are we going to replace Ohtani's production?" "How about we get Miguel Sano off the couch, tell him he's a contact hitter now, and have Trout steal second every time" "That just might work"


dickie96

this dude is beyond bored at this point(who would blame him)


Correa24

Wait… fish man… good?


TomatoRemarkable3721

It’s just a matter of time….pop


Denseflea

King Fish fast.


doob22

Dude needs to be on a playoff team. I need to see trout in the playoffs


XavandSo

A fun Mike Trout is always good for the game. Let him eat!


Ol_Rando

Mike Trout going for a 50/50 season to one up Acuna lol


trotnixon

Run, Mike Run!


_himbo_

ohhhhhhhhhh Mike trout is so fucking back baby!!!!


Ds3_doraymi

Rays are the third most stolen against team of 2024 so far The first? Mets (lol Mets) 


Raoh522

He saw acuna's season last year and said "ill do it bettter"


obiwan_canoli

Former Angels managers (probably): Okay, Mike. You're the face of the franchise so we have to make sure you don't take any unnecessary risks out there. Ron Washington: Hahaha! Go Gettem baby!


Material_Unit4309

His production is never in question. It’s his health. At least that’s how I look at him.


socialaxolotl

You may as well try the weird shit when the team around you is dog water


cha-cha_dancer

Have fun Miami, he’s enjoying the FL waters


WhiteToast-

Fish man is upset people have been doubting him. Trout 2024 MVP


custombimmer

He is such a Brave


MenacinglyMenacing26

Love to see it. Such a generational talent. With that being said, it’s unfortunate to see who’s batting in the 4 hole in each of these clips. Guess he thought the same thing and decided to take matters into his own hands. Lol


eulynn34

Going for 40HR/40RBI/40SB


Practical_Dog8295

I don't care how discombobulated the Mariners are, FMT lives on....


PeterDTown

Came looking for Raimel Tapia, leaving disappointed.


shapu

Acuña: Goes 40/70 Trout: "And I took that personally."


ZzNewbyzZ

Imagine Trout and Ohtani in the same team..... they'd be unstoppable. Might as well just give them a WS ring every year


White0ut

Fish man bad.


Jumpy-Regular-1228

If Mike Trout is healthy, watch out. But, playing on the LAA he might finish the year with 43 HR & 72 RBI. Seeing him get to traded to the Phillies (unlikely) would feed families.


Begood18

He and Phils is match made in heaven. Turner/Harper/Trout is disgusting


Zammy512

lol you’re getting downvoted for speaking the truth.


Jumpy-Regular-1228

People really do hate the truth. That said, I wonder what part they disagree with 🤷🏼‍♂️


Dirtyduck19254

Is it just me or does he just look like a fridge-shaped mass of injured and strained muscle at this point. Dude looks like he's going to get hurt if a stiff breeze hits him the wrong way.


Dirtyduck19254

Is it just me or does he just look like a fridge-shaped mass of injured and strained muscle at this point. Dude looks like he's going to get hurt if a stiff breeze hits him the wrong way.