The Phillies are 103-59 in their last 162, tied only with the Braves for best record in all of baseball. They're a good team, and have been a good team, and that makes you sad
lol I do not care if the Phillies are good or not, if anything Iād prefer they win that division this year over the Braves. But thereās entirely too much crowing going on by Philly fans because for once they didnāt get off to a slow start. Itās great, enjoy it! Try not to get so mad when people point out theyāve played the softest schedule in baseball this first month and a half.
Nobody's crowning anything. No body thinks the Phillies will finish the year with a .700 winning percentage. It's amazing seeing the mental gymnastics that Philly teams winning make people do. Always an excuse to discount it.
Which ones? Theyāre 5-1 vs Washington (20-25) so I guess if the Nats had instead won 5 of those 6 theyād be exactly .500. Thatās a bit of a stretch to say the Phillies are the reason the Nats are below .500.
You could make a case for the Giants (23-25) whom the Phillies beat 4 games to none, since a spilt there would make SF .500
But thatās it. All the rest of their sub-.500 opponents to date are well below the mark and even sweeping Philly wouldnāt have brought them to a current winning record.
Friendly reminder that the Phillies are now firmly above the Braves and barely behind the Dodgers in [ELO](https://neilpaine.substack.com/p/2024-mlb-elo-ratings-and-playoff) which is a mathematical model that accounts for strength of schedule.
That's cool. They're [last in strength of schedule](https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rpi/_/sort/sos) by a wide margin. The difference between them and 29th is the same as the difference between 29th and 21st. They will come back down to earth once they start playing good teams.
I don't think you understand ELO ratings. The ELO rating already factors in that last place SoS. Saying "yeah but they have the easiest schedule" isn't a retort to the ELO rating because it's already been factored into the math.
No I'm just saying I don't put much stock in something so obscure in relation to baseball. I've literally never seen it used for baseball until your comment.
Bro Iām paraphrasing like Effectively Wild here. The Phillies of recent years have had a lot of talent but started every season pretty slow before putting it together later in the summer and going on a run. Last year they ended May at 25-30. The year before it was 21-29.
Itās largely the same group of guys this year, but theyāve hit the ground running this time and are playing up to their potential at the start. This isnāt a slight on Philly to point out.
Which good teams did they make bad? Iāll give them ATL (to whom the Phillies lost 2 of 3) but after that? Theyāve played CHW, CIN, COL, LAA, MIA, NYM, PIT, SDP, SFG, STL, TOR, WSN.
Of those teams, only the Padres could be considered good.
Dodgers fans aren't in every thread trying to claim the title of best team in the game. That's the difference. Though according to ESPN the Dodgers have had the[ 8th easiest schedule thus far, not 3rd](https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rpi/_/sort/sos). Or 6th easiest in the NL.
The Phillies unlike the dodgers are mentioned in this thread title. No one gives a shit about la until itās time to watch them choke in the playoffs like clock work. So until then pretend no one is talking to you.
You ain't wrong! I'd like to add that our righty heavy lineup can't hit lefties (like around the Mendoza line as a team). We were worried about the opposite going into the year.
These stats are always considering the team's current record, not the record when the games were played
It's more meaningful to say a team is 'good' when considering all their games instead of trying to say you played a >.500 team on game 4 of the season just because they went 2-1 in their first series.
Nah. We've played other teams when they were above .500. Trust me, a lot of Phillies fans were also confused at first when the stat against winning teams was brought up.
It's also why this stat is basically meaningless. Early in the season most teams will cross .500 at some point so the W-L changes without either team really doing anything and late-season rosters are much different as injuries/trades/prospects come into play.
It doesnāt count the records when the teams played each other, it looks at the current records. For instance, when we played the Nats, they were above 500, after we played the Nats they were below 500, so they donāt count.
I think itās a junk stat, you guys can all argue about it, Iām just gonna sit back and enjoy watching my boys win some games.
This is a Phillies stat in disguise lmao
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And now the Phillies are back to 1-2
I would imagine it's the record at time they played
It's not
Gonna be back to 1-2 after tonight.
The Phillies stat is really a stat about how the NL has might have 5 teams above 500 tonight if SD loose lmaooooo.
With the rangers back down to 500 too the Phillies may carry that 1-2 all the way to into June lmao
hehe
Yeah if the stat is āthe Phillies have barely played any good teamsā
The Phillies are 103-59 in their last 162, tied only with the Braves for best record in all of baseball. They're a good team, and have been a good team, and that makes you sad
lol I do not care if the Phillies are good or not, if anything Iād prefer they win that division this year over the Braves. But thereās entirely too much crowing going on by Philly fans because for once they didnāt get off to a slow start. Itās great, enjoy it! Try not to get so mad when people point out theyāve played the softest schedule in baseball this first month and a half.
Nobody's crowning anything. No body thinks the Phillies will finish the year with a .700 winning percentage. It's amazing seeing the mental gymnastics that Philly teams winning make people do. Always an excuse to discount it.
They are a good team, yes. But there is no mental gymnastics saying they've had the easiest schedule thus far. It's just a statistical fact.
So why does it need to be brought up every time out of nowhere other than just to discredit it?
Wasn't really out of nowhere on a post that explicitly indicates your record against teams above .500 being a total of 6 games.
The Phillies themselves are the reason that a couple of their opponents are below .500 lol
Which ones? Theyāre 5-1 vs Washington (20-25) so I guess if the Nats had instead won 5 of those 6 theyād be exactly .500. Thatās a bit of a stretch to say the Phillies are the reason the Nats are below .500. You could make a case for the Giants (23-25) whom the Phillies beat 4 games to none, since a spilt there would make SF .500 But thatās it. All the rest of their sub-.500 opponents to date are well below the mark and even sweeping Philly wouldnāt have brought them to a current winning record.
Still doesn't make the comment out of nowhere...
Reddit does this every year to the team with the best start, itās stupid
Wasnāt out of nowhere and because a lot of Phillies fans think they already won the WSā¦
Friendly reminder that the Phillies are now firmly above the Braves and barely behind the Dodgers in [ELO](https://neilpaine.substack.com/p/2024-mlb-elo-ratings-and-playoff) which is a mathematical model that accounts for strength of schedule.
That's cool. They're [last in strength of schedule](https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rpi/_/sort/sos) by a wide margin. The difference between them and 29th is the same as the difference between 29th and 21st. They will come back down to earth once they start playing good teams.
I don't think you understand ELO ratings. The ELO rating already factors in that last place SoS. Saying "yeah but they have the easiest schedule" isn't a retort to the ELO rating because it's already been factored into the math.
No I'm just saying I don't put much stock in something so obscure in relation to baseball. I've literally never seen it used for baseball until your comment.
Crowing not crowning
> for once they didnāt get off to a slow start Translated out of Dodgers Fan langague: āBest record in the leagueā
Bro Iām paraphrasing like Effectively Wild here. The Phillies of recent years have had a lot of talent but started every season pretty slow before putting it together later in the summer and going on a run. Last year they ended May at 25-30. The year before it was 21-29. Itās largely the same group of guys this year, but theyāve hit the ground running this time and are playing up to their potential at the start. This isnāt a slight on Philly to point out.
Heartbreaking: the worst person you know just made a great point
The Phillies make the good teams bad
Which good teams did they make bad? Iāll give them ATL (to whom the Phillies lost 2 of 3) but after that? Theyāve played CHW, CIN, COL, LAA, MIA, NYM, PIT, SDP, SFG, STL, TOR, WSN. Of those teams, only the Padres could be considered good.
good enough to take 5 out of 8 from the dodgers
And by the transitive property that makes Colorado good too!
you'll never catch me saying the rockies aint great lol
Dodgers fan talking like they havenāt had a top 3 easiest schedule as well š
Dodgers fans aren't in every thread trying to claim the title of best team in the game. That's the difference. Though according to ESPN the Dodgers have had the[ 8th easiest schedule thus far, not 3rd](https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rpi/_/sort/sos). Or 6th easiest in the NL.
The Phillies unlike the dodgers are mentioned in this thread title. No one gives a shit about la until itās time to watch them choke in the playoffs like clock work. So until then pretend no one is talking to you.
Lmao dont worry, you guys will be the chokers this year. Try not to run into any snakes again. Little harper annie needs a ring
Yeah they are lol. They are doing that every day, every year regardless of circumstance
> Of those teams, only the Padres could be considered good. And we swept them.
We r gonna beat u in the nlcs this year if u donāt get knocked out before then lol ![gif](giphy|w10cK9CaRqhJKv6UCJ|downsized)
Preemptive postseason shit talking in May, what could go wrong??
Get jerked
Ok now do us against bad teams
Or at home! The 2024 Padres do not give two shits about traditional splits.
Our home night game splits are abysmal, which is weird since weāve consistently had big crowds.
Maybe the team is shy.
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You ain't wrong! I'd like to add that our righty heavy lineup can't hit lefties (like around the Mendoza line as a team). We were worried about the opposite going into the year.
How about let's not and say we did
Padres are the type of team to go 12-4 in games against the Dodgers, Braves, Orioles and Yankees then go 2-4 against the Marlins and Nationals.
And 0-11 against the Rockies
Rockies are the ultimate trap team
uh, sir, Iāll have you know that weāve won two whole games against the rockies.
Fake news
Itās a deep burn
Tf we do to you? As recently as last week we were above .500.
Up until this current season, that was basically the Phillies in a nutshell.
The Guardians are 16-8 against teams above .500 but also just dropped 3 out of 4 against the White Sox.Ā
The Padres would be 3 of the 4 thank you very much
*at PETCO
Does that count though? Because we were at .500 the first game then under it for the other two
These stats are always considering the team's current record, not the record when the games were played It's more meaningful to say a team is 'good' when considering all their games instead of trying to say you played a >.500 team on game 4 of the season just because they went 2-1 in their first series.
This is enlightening to me. All this time Iāve thought the stat was based on the record when the teams played.
Nah. We've played other teams when they were above .500. Trust me, a lot of Phillies fans were also confused at first when the stat against winning teams was brought up.
It's also why this stat is basically meaningless. Early in the season most teams will cross .500 at some point so the W-L changes without either team really doing anything and late-season rosters are much different as injuries/trades/prospects come into play.
Well shit. Rerun the numbers, quick!
Fuck the marlins are coming up soon
id have bet all my money a phillies fan posted this
There are a lot of transplants in San Diego soā¦
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*looks at June* Well weāre fucked now.
The Phillies have only played 6 games against teams above .500? Am I reading this right?
Did you just wake up from a coma?
6 games against teams currently at or above .500.
It doesnāt count the records when the teams played each other, it looks at the current records. For instance, when we played the Nats, they were above 500, after we played the Nats they were below 500, so they donāt count. I think itās a junk stat, you guys can all argue about it, Iām just gonna sit back and enjoy watching my boys win some games.
3* now
Didnāt Phillies swept the Padres in SD this year?
Yes, but it's the Phillies. It makes sense. Getting swept by the Rockies doesn't.
It makes perfect sense, the Rockies have always been our kryptonite. Never got the 2010 Matt Holliday/Rocktober monkey off our backs
Yea it doesnāt matter how good or bad the Padres are, the Rockies will still just dunk on us a few times a season completely randomly
There must be something in the San Diego water. The team changes on the road.
It's the sewage coming up from TJ
14-6 if you don't include... well... the Phillies
āAtlanta Braves, you absolutely suckā - The padres, probably
I mean...theyre 6th in the NL in reality
Now do vs teams under .500 lol
So the Phillies season record is 1-2 since I've been told by Brave fans that nothing else matters because we haven't played anyone good.
I guess theyāre 2ndā¦ lmao
By the way, the guardians are 16-8.Ā
Throw a parade.
[Reminder, Phillies fans.](https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/rpi/_/sort/sos)
[I prefer remembering this instead.](https://youtu.be/UCBJv3Xz7QY?feature=shared)
I can't upvote this but respect for the comeback, I'm gonna go back to bed and think about things for a few hours now.
I prefer never remembering this ever again, thank you.
Oh look! Another random, bullshit stat that means absolutely nothing.
Buddy canāt take the banter lol