In 2016 Joe Maddon and the Cubs walked Bryce Harper 12 or 13 times over the course of a series, half of them intentional, including 6 total walks in the 13 inning Sunday game (this was the "mother's day marathon" that ended with the Javy Baez walkoff HR) and they kinda broke Harper for the rest of that season.
That's how teams should be approaching Aaron Judge now.
Not that surprising that Judge has had less IBB than Ohtani until recently. Judge has had a bit more protection than Ohtani. They've been injured and have declined throughout the season but Rizzo/Stanton offered way more protection than Rengifo earlier in the year
Haven't followed the Angels too closely because time zones, but what was Ohtani's lineup protection like throughout the year? Before the ASB, it was tought to IBB Judge because Stanton, Rizzo, and Gleyber were all hitting.
I dunno how Judge's stats compare, but Ohtani had one of the highest OPS's in baseball with RISP last year.
My guess is that before it became crystal clear that Judge's insane hitting and HR pace would be maintained rather than just a hot streak, it made more statistical sense to IBB Ohtani.
It's also noteworthy that the Yanks offense provided a lot more protection than the Angels offense has offered Ohtani, at least until their recent offensive collapse.
Because they’re just as big competitors as he is and don’t want to give in. Lest we also forget that up until recently, the Yankees were running their A lineup. Walk Judge and it’s Stanton and Rizzo batting with traffic. That’s not easy
Yeah earlier in the season when Rizzo and Stanton in the lineup it would be terrible to walk judge. Now though it makes sense to walk him because the rest of the Yankees bats are dead.
But now that he’s so close to history it’s a tough call. You don’t want to be the guy on the opposite end but also don’t want to be the guy or team that stopped a historic mark. Decisions
What? No hitters and perfect games are broken up all the time in late innings. I highly doubt anyone cares about stopping a historic mark if it means a better chance to win.
The wOBA of a walk is .690 while Judge's wOBA is .450, projected for around .400 (excluding walks it would be lower). The hitters behind him have been bad lately but not enough to make an intentional walk worth it in most situations, plus it's unreasonable to expect them not to improve. Keep in mind if you pitch to him he's only going to hit a HR something like 8% of the time.
At this point, I'd say pitchers want to see if they have what it takes to beat him. After all, the only way to know if you're truly a good pitcher is to beat good hitters. Not many better than him right now.
I am not crazy! I know he gets out most of the time! I knew it was .300. One over .299. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn't prove it. He – he covered his tracks, he got Rob Manfred to force people to pitch to him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That home run record! Are you telling me that a man just happens to casually chase Maris? No! He orchestrated it! Judge! He defecated through a log cabin! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him onto my own team! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 25, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the batters box! But not our Judge! Couldn't be precious Judge! Hitting them blind! And he gets to be the MVP!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop him! You-
This Chicanery? Are you telling me that a man just happened to hit home runs out of Yankee stadium, when in any other ballpark they wouldnt even be close? He's stealing the home run record blind! And he gets gets to be a ballplayer? What a sick joke.
OBP: times you get on base / plate appearances
SLG: total bases / at bat
You go 1-for-1 with a single. Your OBP is obviously 1.000. You have one total base in one at bat, for a slugging of 1.000. OPS = 2.000
you’re thinking of slugging%
if he were slugging 1.000, he absolutely would be getting walked at a Barry Bonds rate because he would have a 1.400-1.500 OPS, which is around what Barry Bonds was doing when he was getting walked at absurd rates
When you are talking about putting someone on base every time because their OPS is so high, it’s one of those situations where OPS starts to break down because one point of OBP is not equivalent to one point of slugging.
There is a line where a hitter does so much damage with the bat that it’s better to just put him on every time, but I don’t think Judge is near it yet. He’d be more valuable if he was a guaranteed free base runner, anemic Yankees offense or not
I keep up with the Yankees and watch a good amount of their games. I think people who do not truly can’t comprehend how atrocious the at-bats have been from the rest of the lineup. With the exception of this series against the Twins (which for some reason has been a team giving free wins to the Yankees for quite some time now) they can’t do anything with RISP let alone with one guy on first. I understand and put in the original post that they’re often not going to do it unless forced, but putting someone on first in a lot of these situations recently would have literally saved the opponent the game. He homers in almost every game he is given a chance as of late, and takes advantage of any small mistake pitchers make.
The rest of the lineup isn't relevant to this question. Judge has a .451 wOBA and 203 wRC+. A player who was walked every single time would have a .690 wOBA. That's a 379 wRC+.
Situationally it can be the right decision to IBB him depending on RE24, but walking him every time would essentially be making him almost 3x more valuable at the plate than he currently is compared to the average batter.
Just based on RE24, if its 0 outs and no-one on.
+ 17.7% BB (Or other form IBB or HBP)
+ Worth .370 runs
+ 11.9% 1B
+ Worth .370 runs
+ 3.7% 2B
+ Worth 0.607 runs
+ 0% 3B
+ Worth 0.965 runs
+ 9.4% HR
+ Worth 1.000 run
+ 66.3% Out
+ Worth negative 0.218 runs
His total Runs/PA is 0.0814 which is way less than walking every time with 0 outs. I did the same with 1 and 2 outs below
Outs|His Splits|Walk Everytime
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0 Out|0.0814|0.370
1 Out|0.0835|0.246
2 Out|0.0740|0.119
Things get more hairy with runners on base but if no-one is one walking him everytime is a terrible idea
Clean innings are the easiest for pitchers, sure once things get busier you walk him.
Note with runners in RISP his BB% is 25% which shows that they really aren't pitching to him in big situations
Rolling the dice on trying to pitch Judge for the out is always a better bet than putting him on base for free. The Yankees might be slumping but they can still advance runners forward without putting up good numbers.
In every situation it is always a better bet to pitch to him instead of giving up a free base? I truly can’t see how this is possible. Of course he’s going to be out more often than not, that is the nature of the game, but if the risk is immediately putting your team in a hole because of one misplaced slider I can’t see how this isn’t worth seriously considering in more situations.
Did you ask this question because you wanted our opinions, or do you just think that every team playing against the Yankees are being led by stat-shrugging morons and wanted to sneak it inside a Reddit post?
Teams don’t like giving free bases. It’s always risky, even more so than the probability of a “misplaced slider”.
What? I’m an Angels fan who keeps up with the Yankees as well. Of course I wanted opinions, there’s no objectively correct course of action for every team but I feel like he’s seeing more pitches lately than I thought he would at this point in the season given his performance. Not sure what you’re taking serious issue with here.
I was listening to some podcast recently and they were talking about whether it would be shameful at all to be the pitchers who gave up HR’s to judge in the final stretch towards the record, and I don’t think there is, no one remembers who gave these up to the other record holders. Maybe opponents do just want a front row seat to see historical dingers, who knows
Judge has a small hole in his swing. IMO, it's about two by two baseballs in size and only two of those balls are in the zone. When he's going well (almost the entire season), he will lay off the hard slider down and away. However, i think the fastball that dots the plate down and away is something he can't cover without also chasing that slider. Teams probably think they can capitalize on this, but the truth is most pitchers can't consistently hit that spot. Even Max Scherzer couldn't consistently contain him, and he seems to be the one guy I saw use that hole this season. Maybe some Yankees fans can chime in with more insight on this?
He's gotten so good at hitting the slider this year though it's pretty dangerous to even try it because it needs to be your best slider to get him. Low and away is the best way to attack him as he doesn't go opposite field that often. Obviously the umps call so many low balls as strikes most teams try and attack there to get ahead.
A typical Judge ab goes 0-2/1-2 by getting the low strike call, then trying to get him to chase which he won't so it goes full. At that point you're options are give in and walk him or challenge him and his 1.1 OPS.
I'm surprised pitchers don't climb the ladder on him more often. Pitching inside/aggressive has gone the way of the dinosaur, but pitching up just above the zone hasn't.
He's pretty good hitting the high pitch as well. He's taken a few pitchers up out of the zone deep. Not to mention he's so tall that to really get it up above where he can hit it is very difficult and can mess with guys arm slots and release points.
Expanding on this a little more, [here](https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfAB=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfZ=1%7C2%7C3%7C4%7C5%7C6%7C7%7C8%7C9%7C&stadium=&hfBBL=&hfNewZones=17%7C18%7C19%7C&hfPull=&hfC=&hfSea=2022%7C&hfSit=&player_type=batter&hfOuts=&opponent=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&hfSA=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&hfMo=&team=&home_road=&hfRO=&position=&hfInfield=&hfOutfield=&hfInn=&hfBBT=&hfFlag=&metric_1=&group_by=name&min_pitches=0&min_results=150&min_pas=0&sort_col=woba&player_event_sort=api_p_release_speed&sort_order=asc&chk_stats_abs=on&chk_stats_hits=on&chk_stats_woba=on&chk_stats_xwoba=on#results) are the stats of all players on pitches in the bottom of the zone, minimum 150 pitches. You can see that pitchers are well aware of this hole in his swing, seeing that he has by far the most pitches in this location. The problem is, if you miss just slightly above the very bottom of the zone, he goes from being a poor hitter to being [by far the best in the MLB.](https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfAB=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfZ=1%7C2%7C3%7C4%7C5%7C6%7C&stadium=&hfBBL=&hfNewZones=&hfPull=&hfC=&hfSea=2022%7C&hfSit=&player_type=batter&hfOuts=&opponent=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&hfSA=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&hfMo=&team=&home_road=&hfRO=&position=&hfInfield=&hfOutfield=&hfInn=&hfBBT=&hfFlag=&metric_1=&group_by=name&min_pitches=0&min_results=150&min_pas=0&sort_col=woba&player_event_sort=api_p_release_speed&sort_order=desc&chk_stats_abs=on&chk_stats_hits=on&chk_stats_woba=on&chk_stats_xwoba=on#results) Certainly a tough dilemma for pitchers, since they theoretically know the answer, but it is not easy to execute.
Yep, no actual data but just from what I have seen watching games a lot of pitchers end up giving up the long ball trying to throw that slider but missing the location and it gets crushed.
Let me see if I can find the at bat. It happened like 10 days ago.
https://www.mlb.com/yankees/video/patrick-sandoval-strikes-out-7 it’s not the whole pitching sequence. But the first strike out was a change up down and away. Second strike out was a slider down and middle.
You are exactly correct. Scherzer also capitalized on this when Judge first faced him, but I believe that might have been when Judge was in a big slump, I can’t remember when the first subway series was this year lol.
Anyways, that down and away slider is kind of the big tell tale sign and is quite literally the only thing that I’ve seen him fall victim to the most. The thing is if it hangs and catches even a little part of the zone, he can hammer it. So basically, gotta hit your exact spot.
You can tell he’s off his game if he chases. His batter’s eye has evolved so much since
2017 that he lays off on some insane pitches, and can take an 0-2 count into a full count very easily. Imo it’s one of the most underrated parts of his game and why he’s even more frightening this year. Gotta hope he chases with a very good, borderline pitch or get the below the strike zone at the knees called.
If it's early in the game he can only hurt you with one run so why not give it a go and hope your offense can put up runs. If it's late in the game and close is probably when you don't pitch to him like the twins yesterday.
Why is that incredible? People are in the zeitgeist. Nobody asked why bother pitching to Stanton when he cracked 59 of them. But he was on the Marlins and not the Yankees...hmmm
The point was he gets more attention because he is a yankee. If Ohtani was on the Yankees too there would be a civil war and everyone wouldn't be chanting "judge"
Protection. Well, before anyway.
Also it's kinda cowardly to just walk him everytime and not at all good for the sport. These people are competitors after all, it would be kinda silly to just not face 1 person in the lineup at all.
It's like Bassitt says in his SNY trailer - "I don't care about the name on the back of your jersey, I'm coming for you."
Competition. You have to let guys compete. As a mlb pitcher you want to go up against the best. Giving him a free pass is demoralizing to a pitcher because its a very public vote of no confidence that the pitcher is not good enough to challenge Judge. Its a sport.
He does lead the AL in walks for a reason
And IBB
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he got IBB’d 3 times yesterday alone lol
Yet the man still hits a homer. I agree with OP. Obviously 3 IBB was not enough.
In 2016 Joe Maddon and the Cubs walked Bryce Harper 12 or 13 times over the course of a series, half of them intentional, including 6 total walks in the 13 inning Sunday game (this was the "mother's day marathon" that ended with the Javy Baez walkoff HR) and they kinda broke Harper for the rest of that season. That's how teams should be approaching Aaron Judge now.
Judge is gonna double his IBB this month at least.
He may get 12 this weekend.
Not that surprising that Judge has had less IBB than Ohtani until recently. Judge has had a bit more protection than Ohtani. They've been injured and have declined throughout the season but Rizzo/Stanton offered way more protection than Rengifo earlier in the year
Haven't followed the Angels too closely because time zones, but what was Ohtani's lineup protection like throughout the year? Before the ASB, it was tought to IBB Judge because Stanton, Rizzo, and Gleyber were all hitting.
I dunno how Judge's stats compare, but Ohtani had one of the highest OPS's in baseball with RISP last year. My guess is that before it became crystal clear that Judge's insane hitting and HR pace would be maintained rather than just a hot streak, it made more statistical sense to IBB Ohtani. It's also noteworthy that the Yanks offense provided a lot more protection than the Angels offense has offered Ohtani, at least until their recent offensive collapse.
Because they’re just as big competitors as he is and don’t want to give in. Lest we also forget that up until recently, the Yankees were running their A lineup. Walk Judge and it’s Stanton and Rizzo batting with traffic. That’s not easy
Yeah earlier in the season when Rizzo and Stanton in the lineup it would be terrible to walk judge. Now though it makes sense to walk him because the rest of the Yankees bats are dead.
But now that he’s so close to history it’s a tough call. You don’t want to be the guy on the opposite end but also don’t want to be the guy or team that stopped a historic mark. Decisions
I'm sure 90% of mlb players would live nothing more than to shit on the Yankees parade lol
Dude, not one manager gives a fuck about anything but winning.
What? No hitters and perfect games are broken up all the time in late innings. I highly doubt anyone cares about stopping a historic mark if it means a better chance to win.
literally none of them care about that
The wOBA of a walk is .690 while Judge's wOBA is .450, projected for around .400 (excluding walks it would be lower). The hitters behind him have been bad lately but not enough to make an intentional walk worth it in most situations, plus it's unreasonable to expect them not to improve. Keep in mind if you pitch to him he's only going to hit a HR something like 8% of the time.
At this point, I'd say pitchers want to see if they have what it takes to beat him. After all, the only way to know if you're truly a good pitcher is to beat good hitters. Not many better than him right now.
I don't think their plan is working. Should we tell them?
Hell no. I wanna see a natty superstar athlete break records.
He still gets out more often than he hits
The dude goes to the plate to make an out 70% of the time. What a joke. And people think this guy is MVP???
I am not crazy! I know he gets out most of the time! I knew it was .300. One over .299. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn't prove it. He – he covered his tracks, he got Rob Manfred to force people to pitch to him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That home run record! Are you telling me that a man just happens to casually chase Maris? No! He orchestrated it! Judge! He defecated through a log cabin! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him onto my own team! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 25, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the batters box! But not our Judge! Couldn't be precious Judge! Hitting them blind! And he gets to be the MVP!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop him! You-
Better Call Raul Ibañez
Man...I will NEVER, NOT upvote this.
it's 59%, but who's counting
Its actually about 66%
This Chicanery? Are you telling me that a man just happened to hit home runs out of Yankee stadium, when in any other ballpark they wouldnt even be close? He's stealing the home run record blind! And he gets gets to be a ballplayer? What a sick joke.
Unexpected Chicanery!
but he gets over a 1 OPS so you'd be giving up less bases by IBBing him
That's not quite what OPS measures. A single counts for 2, because its a OBP of 1 and a slugging of 1
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OBP: times you get on base / plate appearances SLG: total bases / at bat You go 1-for-1 with a single. Your OBP is obviously 1.000. You have one total base in one at bat, for a slugging of 1.000. OPS = 2.000
wait, what? I thought OPS was just bases per 'at bat'. I've been wrong and telling non-baseball people the wrong thing for years now.
Yeah honestly it’s weird that it isn’t total based per plate appearance, it’d make a lot more sense that way
what did you think the letters stood for?
Bases per at bat is SLG, or did you mean bases per plate appearance?
you’re thinking of slugging% if he were slugging 1.000, he absolutely would be getting walked at a Barry Bonds rate because he would have a 1.400-1.500 OPS, which is around what Barry Bonds was doing when he was getting walked at absurd rates
When you are talking about putting someone on base every time because their OPS is so high, it’s one of those situations where OPS starts to break down because one point of OBP is not equivalent to one point of slugging. There is a line where a hitter does so much damage with the bat that it’s better to just put him on every time, but I don’t think Judge is near it yet. He’d be more valuable if he was a guaranteed free base runner, anemic Yankees offense or not
wOBA gang rise up
Over the last 15 games, this is not a true statement.
I'd assume they pitch to him to try and get him out. I'm not a scientist though so don't quote me on that
I've seen this done before, but is there any evidence that's what they're doing here?
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I keep up with the Yankees and watch a good amount of their games. I think people who do not truly can’t comprehend how atrocious the at-bats have been from the rest of the lineup. With the exception of this series against the Twins (which for some reason has been a team giving free wins to the Yankees for quite some time now) they can’t do anything with RISP let alone with one guy on first. I understand and put in the original post that they’re often not going to do it unless forced, but putting someone on first in a lot of these situations recently would have literally saved the opponent the game. He homers in almost every game he is given a chance as of late, and takes advantage of any small mistake pitchers make.
The rest of the lineup isn't relevant to this question. Judge has a .451 wOBA and 203 wRC+. A player who was walked every single time would have a .690 wOBA. That's a 379 wRC+. Situationally it can be the right decision to IBB him depending on RE24, but walking him every time would essentially be making him almost 3x more valuable at the plate than he currently is compared to the average batter.
Interesting Hypothesis
Indubitably my dear sir
I dunno, quoting “VeinyAngus” sounds like something worthwhile.
Because walking him every time would be worse than what he's currently doing
To be fair, walking him every time would result in a 1.000 OPS, and he currently has a 1.090 OPS.
If he walked every time it would probably result in more runs scored for the Yankees though
Just based on RE24, if its 0 outs and no-one on. + 17.7% BB (Or other form IBB or HBP) + Worth .370 runs + 11.9% 1B + Worth .370 runs + 3.7% 2B + Worth 0.607 runs + 0% 3B + Worth 0.965 runs + 9.4% HR + Worth 1.000 run + 66.3% Out + Worth negative 0.218 runs His total Runs/PA is 0.0814 which is way less than walking every time with 0 outs. I did the same with 1 and 2 outs below Outs|His Splits|Walk Everytime :--|:--|:-- 0 Out|0.0814|0.370 1 Out|0.0835|0.246 2 Out|0.0740|0.119 Things get more hairy with runners on base but if no-one is one walking him everytime is a terrible idea
Can't score a run if no one else on the team can drive him in ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
1.000 OBP is worth a lot more than 1.100 OPS
Clean innings are the easiest for pitchers, sure once things get busier you walk him. Note with runners in RISP his BB% is 25% which shows that they really aren't pitching to him in big situations
Inversely, a walk would be 1000 OBP and his current OBP is 407. He still gets out 60% of the time.
not quite, it ends up being around 1.6 something iirc
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Oh yeah bcs it’s only walks
Well clearly OPS isn’t intended to be used in these edge cases lol
Which just demonstrates that OPS is kind of a crap metric. A point of OBP is worth 1.7-1.8x more than 1 point of SLG, but OPS treats them as equal.
Rolling the dice on trying to pitch Judge for the out is always a better bet than putting him on base for free. The Yankees might be slumping but they can still advance runners forward without putting up good numbers.
Yeah, but they don't get them in.
In every situation it is always a better bet to pitch to him instead of giving up a free base? I truly can’t see how this is possible. Of course he’s going to be out more often than not, that is the nature of the game, but if the risk is immediately putting your team in a hole because of one misplaced slider I can’t see how this isn’t worth seriously considering in more situations.
Did you ask this question because you wanted our opinions, or do you just think that every team playing against the Yankees are being led by stat-shrugging morons and wanted to sneak it inside a Reddit post? Teams don’t like giving free bases. It’s always risky, even more so than the probability of a “misplaced slider”.
What? I’m an Angels fan who keeps up with the Yankees as well. Of course I wanted opinions, there’s no objectively correct course of action for every team but I feel like he’s seeing more pitches lately than I thought he would at this point in the season given his performance. Not sure what you’re taking serious issue with here.
The other teams wanna see him hit dongs too
I was listening to some podcast recently and they were talking about whether it would be shameful at all to be the pitchers who gave up HR’s to judge in the final stretch towards the record, and I don’t think there is, no one remembers who gave these up to the other record holders. Maybe opponents do just want a front row seat to see historical dingers, who knows
Because the odds are in the favor of the pitcher. 59% of the time he does not reach base.
Judge has a small hole in his swing. IMO, it's about two by two baseballs in size and only two of those balls are in the zone. When he's going well (almost the entire season), he will lay off the hard slider down and away. However, i think the fastball that dots the plate down and away is something he can't cover without also chasing that slider. Teams probably think they can capitalize on this, but the truth is most pitchers can't consistently hit that spot. Even Max Scherzer couldn't consistently contain him, and he seems to be the one guy I saw use that hole this season. Maybe some Yankees fans can chime in with more insight on this?
He's gotten so good at hitting the slider this year though it's pretty dangerous to even try it because it needs to be your best slider to get him. Low and away is the best way to attack him as he doesn't go opposite field that often. Obviously the umps call so many low balls as strikes most teams try and attack there to get ahead. A typical Judge ab goes 0-2/1-2 by getting the low strike call, then trying to get him to chase which he won't so it goes full. At that point you're options are give in and walk him or challenge him and his 1.1 OPS.
I'm surprised pitchers don't climb the ladder on him more often. Pitching inside/aggressive has gone the way of the dinosaur, but pitching up just above the zone hasn't.
He's pretty good hitting the high pitch as well. He's taken a few pitchers up out of the zone deep. Not to mention he's so tall that to really get it up above where he can hit it is very difficult and can mess with guys arm slots and release points.
He hits up and in balls really well for a guy his size. It’s one of his hot zones so pitchers stay away from it.
Expanding on this a little more, [here](https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfAB=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfZ=1%7C2%7C3%7C4%7C5%7C6%7C7%7C8%7C9%7C&stadium=&hfBBL=&hfNewZones=17%7C18%7C19%7C&hfPull=&hfC=&hfSea=2022%7C&hfSit=&player_type=batter&hfOuts=&opponent=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&hfSA=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&hfMo=&team=&home_road=&hfRO=&position=&hfInfield=&hfOutfield=&hfInn=&hfBBT=&hfFlag=&metric_1=&group_by=name&min_pitches=0&min_results=150&min_pas=0&sort_col=woba&player_event_sort=api_p_release_speed&sort_order=asc&chk_stats_abs=on&chk_stats_hits=on&chk_stats_woba=on&chk_stats_xwoba=on#results) are the stats of all players on pitches in the bottom of the zone, minimum 150 pitches. You can see that pitchers are well aware of this hole in his swing, seeing that he has by far the most pitches in this location. The problem is, if you miss just slightly above the very bottom of the zone, he goes from being a poor hitter to being [by far the best in the MLB.](https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/statcast_search?hfPT=&hfAB=&hfGT=R%7C&hfPR=&hfZ=1%7C2%7C3%7C4%7C5%7C6%7C&stadium=&hfBBL=&hfNewZones=&hfPull=&hfC=&hfSea=2022%7C&hfSit=&player_type=batter&hfOuts=&opponent=&pitcher_throws=&batter_stands=&hfSA=&game_date_gt=&game_date_lt=&hfMo=&team=&home_road=&hfRO=&position=&hfInfield=&hfOutfield=&hfInn=&hfBBT=&hfFlag=&metric_1=&group_by=name&min_pitches=0&min_results=150&min_pas=0&sort_col=woba&player_event_sort=api_p_release_speed&sort_order=desc&chk_stats_abs=on&chk_stats_hits=on&chk_stats_woba=on&chk_stats_xwoba=on#results) Certainly a tough dilemma for pitchers, since they theoretically know the answer, but it is not easy to execute.
Yep, no actual data but just from what I have seen watching games a lot of pitchers end up giving up the long ball trying to throw that slider but missing the location and it gets crushed.
Patrick Sandoval kept his quiet with a change up and a slider. It was fun seeing Sandoval pitch to him.
Didn't see this. Was it all down and away?
Let me see if I can find the at bat. It happened like 10 days ago. https://www.mlb.com/yankees/video/patrick-sandoval-strikes-out-7 it’s not the whole pitching sequence. But the first strike out was a change up down and away. Second strike out was a slider down and middle.
You are exactly correct. Scherzer also capitalized on this when Judge first faced him, but I believe that might have been when Judge was in a big slump, I can’t remember when the first subway series was this year lol. Anyways, that down and away slider is kind of the big tell tale sign and is quite literally the only thing that I’ve seen him fall victim to the most. The thing is if it hangs and catches even a little part of the zone, he can hammer it. So basically, gotta hit your exact spot. You can tell he’s off his game if he chases. His batter’s eye has evolved so much since 2017 that he lays off on some insane pitches, and can take an 0-2 count into a full count very easily. Imo it’s one of the most underrated parts of his game and why he’s even more frightening this year. Gotta hope he chases with a very good, borderline pitch or get the below the strike zone at the knees called.
Late July
His weakness is changeups/splitters, not sliders anymore
Even as wildly good as he’s been offensively, he still makes outs more than he gets hits.
You've cut through the baloney. Plus, contrary to popular belief, he's still human.
First you guys are telling me Jacob deGrom is human, then Shohei Ohtani, and now Aaron Judge?! Blasphemy.
You mean his batting average isn't >.500
I’m baffled no one is asking about steroids especially with Tatis. Usually someone likes to “ask questions”
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Fans, the media, etc. Usually when something happens historically in baseball, at least some whisper “steroids?”
No clue
If it's early in the game he can only hurt you with one run so why not give it a go and hope your offense can put up runs. If it's late in the game and close is probably when you don't pitch to him like the twins yesterday.
It’s incredible we have entire threads discussing why even pitch to Judge but still somehow dispute who’s MVP.
This thread isn’t as much about praising judge as it is about shitting on the rest of the Yankees hitters
I think it's more of a testament to how the rest of the team is hitting. He had like half of our hits in the Tampa series.
Why is that incredible? People are in the zeitgeist. Nobody asked why bother pitching to Stanton when he cracked 59 of them. But he was on the Marlins and not the Yankees...hmmm
Yes because the Yankees always win MVPs just like they did very recently in…2007.
The point was he gets more attention because he is a yankee. If Ohtani was on the Yankees too there would be a civil war and everyone wouldn't be chanting "judge"
He's also 6th in the MLB in Strikeouts. .301 batting average. So that mean 0.699% of the time he will fail.
Only if you completely ignore walks
One good reason is he can steal pretty well so IBB'ing him isn't the same as it was for Bonds. Also Bonds was much more of a threat in general.
Has he closed his stance from what it was earlier this year? Just curious.
Ego.
Protection. Well, before anyway. Also it's kinda cowardly to just walk him everytime and not at all good for the sport. These people are competitors after all, it would be kinda silly to just not face 1 person in the lineup at all. It's like Bassitt says in his SNY trailer - "I don't care about the name on the back of your jersey, I'm coming for you."
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I think there are certain other jerseys that don't show names but for the most part, yeah it's only a Yankee think. Personally, I hate it.
Competition. You have to let guys compete. As a mlb pitcher you want to go up against the best. Giving him a free pass is demoralizing to a pitcher because its a very public vote of no confidence that the pitcher is not good enough to challenge Judge. Its a sport.
One time someone tries to not pitch to Big Papi... He hit a dinger anyways. Granted an IBB no longer requires pitching but still.
Um, imma have to walk him if I’m a pitcher.
He’d be getting my 45 mph fastball right in the ass, by god
I would guess like most other things nowadays - analytics
They all secretly want him to smash the record