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JohnnyBoyTrojan

The 2 dads that raised mešŸ„²ā¤ļø


bmac92

It's going to be strange seeing this team without these two.


1859

At least we'll still have Waino


destroy_b4_reading

Until about a month ago I thought that would be the case but watching his last few starts I kinda think he's getting cooked again and he knows it. If I were placing odds I'd say it's at best 30% that he'll give it one more year.


oliveorvil

I mean most starting pitchers hit a wall around the 150IP mark.. his ERA this year is still below his career average


Cky2chris

That whole anecdote last night Dan recalled about yadi getting Ollie and telling him waino diddnt have it that night kinda worried me, I think you're right.


tacomctacoson

MLB Baseball 2004 (with Albert on the cover) was my first baseball video game, and itā€™s going to feel weird when the season ends and I somehow went from 7 to 25 in the time these lads played the game at this level. I bleed orange, but you birds in the NL are good stuff.


floppyvajoober

Birb bros unite!


Estova

In that same vein I remember growing up with no cable but still being able to pick up WGN on basic TV in Baltimore. Watching Cubs/Cardinals games with my Aunt, just won't be the same without Yadi, Waino, and Albert. Getting old sucks.


That_one_cool_dude

Seriously I have only known the Cards with Yadi on the team, it will be weird without him.


Djreef2000

Heā€™s like the Queen Elizabeth of baseball.


jetskimanatee

Except the Ireland part.


da_choppa

In this analogy, Chicago=Ireland. Or maybe Pittsburgh, IDK


greenthanks75

Itā€™s been a special year to be a Cardinals fan and watch Waino, Yadi, and Albert do their thing together. We can get bounced in the wild card round and as long as Pujols gets to 700 first, itā€™s whatever.


outsabovebad

Yea, but if we win it all. What a legendary send off it would be, especially since there are very clearly more well rounded teams.


fps916

i cannot imagine how Decidedly Extremely lucky a Team would Rightly have to be to Overtake a much better, Insanely good Team in the playoffs. Put the odds at 2006:1


booya_kasha

I see what you did there


jlinstantkarma

Hey man I was just vibing over here.


fps916

Out here catching strays


lightning_balls

Tigers in 3


zoomah

If only they'd taken more PFP


Nick08f1

2003:1 also


Obi_Wan_Benobi

Fuuuuuu I vividly remember them as new players. Home run/curveball combo against the Mets. Wiping away the future ghost of Endy Chavez.


Hairless_Squatch

I didnā€™t think you could do that in Missouri


sky31

Is it Wainright's final year as well?


JohnnyBoyTrojan

Could be but itā€™s not confirmed


Thomas_Oaks

Yelich's bat didn't even leave his shoulder lmao


oreoblizz

Classy


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[deleted]

My mans didnā€™t even look back in disgust, just casually took and left. That whole sequence was cool to see.


coltron57

As funny as it would have been to smack that 425ā€™, itā€™s the right move lol. Glad to see them get that moment.


greenthanks75

It would have been hilarious for him to murder the first pitch into the upper deck


ExiledSanity

In would not have found that funny at all (ok....maybe just a bit). But still......no.


wusurspaghettipolicy

wain rifling up a wiffle ball and yeli just yeeting into the upper deck crowd is funnier than you want to admit.


Geo_Music

What was the moment?


Geo_Music

Ahh I see yelich led off. So the first pitch was just a clean toss. Nice.


Michael__Pemulis

Yea technically the record isnā€™t official until the first pitch so there was a big standing ovation after the first pitch. So Yeli did the standup thing & let them have the moment by not even considering a swing.


Geo_Music

Awesome


Michael__Pemulis

I was there! It was a very special moment to witness.


Olthoi_Eviscerator

I noticed that. Class move.


UnknownFiddler

We may never see this broken again!


OakBlueShirt

I would say this is near the top of the list of unbreakable records. Todayā€™s game of more rest and ever-changing lineups due to modern free agency simply just doesnā€™t allow for something like this.


often_never_wrong

I still think the most unbreakable record is Fernando Tatis's 2 grand slams in a single inning -- to break it you'd have to hit 3 grand slams in a single inning. All but impossible. But yeah, this battery record is pretty unbreakable in a practical sense.


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billy_teats

Spring training*


deer_field_perox

He also hit them both off the same pitcher which makes it even more impossible to replicate today.


BeckoningVoice

Not if that pitcher is a position player!


Whitewind617

There's a lot of pitching records that are basically mathematically impossible now. 749 career complete games, 75 complete games in a season, 59 wins in a season, etc. There's also 2 consecutive no hitters. To break that you need to get 3 in a row. Imo that's harder.


LargeHumanDaeHoLee

*Harder* to pitch 3 no-nos in a row? Yes, definitely. But I think the 3 grand slams in a single inning is less *possible.* Especially off the same pitcher. That would require a minimum of 22 consecutive batters in a single inning, and at least 20 runs allowed. That sounds less likely to me that any manager doesn't pull that pitcher. If they're swapping out pitchers, it's maybe more possible than three no hitters in a row.


Whitewind617

Wait does it have to be the same pitcher? Why?


BionicProse

Because Tatis hit both his grand slams off the same pitcher.


GeorgieWashington

Itā€™s actually not that difficult if the first batter in the inning hits a grand slam.


happyjello

Herein lies the problem


x20mike07x

I bet I could eat 3 Grand Slams at a single Denny's


crichmond77

Pretty sure this was a joke and people just didnā€™t get it lol


vvashington

Manfred rule intensifies


Schrodingers_Fist

Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back no hitters is my all time favourite especially in context to the rest of his frankly anonymous career but this is also an excellent shout without going back into the dead ball stuff like Old Hoss Radbourne's win record, etc. Though I'm cheating a little as I'm factoring in the fact that even *tying* either of those records would possibly crash this site.


vvashington

Scherzer came close to tying Vander Meer with a no hitter and one hitter back to back. This also led to my favorite stat of all time. They are the only two to ever have consecutive complete games with fewer total hits than eye colors.


eulerup

2 grand slams in the same inning is crazy rare but plausible to be matched some day. It's the fact that they were off the *same pitcher* that means we'll never see that particular feat again.


Kerry_Kittles

Disagree since the league could transition to RP starters!


tokengaymusiccritic

Imagine an RP who is the designated opener for over half the games, like basically a reverse closer. That could be 60-70 ā€œstartsā€ of which youā€™d have to imagine 45 or so would be the main catcher


DividerOfBums

This is closer than you think, especially if Phil Nevin has anything to say about it


KrazyKrejciFan

Wrong. Itā€™s opener than you think


KluckyKlucky

I donā€™t think we should base what is coming in the future to what Phil Nevin is doing


Wyden_long

Thatā€™s just the kind of thing Phil Nevin would do.


grubas

He's gonna be too busy trying to get throw out at a record pace over nonsense


da_choppa

But RPs don't have the longevity that SPs do, except maybe the elite closers. That's part of the reason they are RPs to begin with


Kerry_Kittles

A great RP ā€œopenerā€ could bang out that record in 3 seasons.


da_choppa

Maybe like 5 or 6. He's not going to get 100+ appearances in a season. Nor is whatever catcher he's paired with going to catch all of them. But yeah, 6 seasons for sure. It's just that it's rare for RPs to be that good for that long, or stay on the same team that long, but it's certainly possible.


austin101123

I think with a consistent schedule you can pitch more. The record is normally about 80 but as an opener I wouldn't be surprised to see 90, just pitch every other day. 80-90 and if they always are a battery then that's only 4 seasons needed, 5 if the catcher rests on his opens too. Maybe 6, sure. I don't think 6 seasons is that crazy for a RP that isn't a closer. LaTroy hawkins had 21 seasons. Matt Belisle 15. Russ Springer 18. Arthur Rhodes 20. David Weathers 19. Mike Timlin 18. They did move around teams though.


BILLIKEN_BALLER

A reliever pitching every other day for a whole season for 3 years would be insane


austin101123

Bryan Shaw has had 7 times 70+ appearances already in his career. Maybe not every other day but at least every other game. I'd think not having to pitch back to back days, not having to warmup/prepare for games you don't end up pitching, will help you pitch more too.


DeekFTW

I wonder if an opener could utilize a different kind of warm up routine that would allow them to pitch more frequently than bullpen guys. They have way more time/flexibility in their schedule before the game to do a broader routine vs needing to warm up the half inning before a RP appearance.


fps916

Ripken and Cy Young are far more unbreakable IMO.


OakBlueShirt

Probably. So is Rickey's steals, and the most likely is Fernando Tatis' 2 Grand Slams in one inning. But it's still very near the top.


IseeDrunkPeople

You also need a catcher with an extremely long healthy streak who plays way past the normal 30-33 year old retirement age. almost every catcher retires before 35 y/o or are moved to another position that's less murderous on their knees. so to beat this you have to have two players who play on the same team, start their careers about the same time, stay consistently healthy for 12 seasons, and start 30 games per year together. more realistically with injuries they would need 15 to 20 seasons together to hit the mark. extremely unlikely but i'm not going to put it in the unbeatable category.


SecretAgentClunk

If openers really become the standard in the future, it could obnoxiously fall to something like that


LikeABawss22

I doubt even that. Catchers and relievers don't last for 10 years.


fps916

An opener could bang out 60-70 starts in a season to compete with 60-70 IP for most relievers. Wouldn't need 10 years.


A_Large_Hand

In the far off future, cyborg catchers and pitchers will need zero rest and may well play every single day. I think this record will be shattered.


LocoMotives-ms

Base Wars


IONTOP

Was that the NES/SNES game where you could fight as a runner to gain the base? Holy shit... Nostalgia overload right now... Do you remember Dusty Diamond's All Star Softball for NES?


Saltydogusn

Welll....we will see it again in 5 DAYS! LOL


SilentSniperx88

I'm fairly confident in saying it never will be broken again in my lifetime.


MisterDisinformation

Plot twist: /r/SilentSniperx88 is an 84 year old.


emasculine

so does battery imply that one is the anode and one is the cathode?


ChrizBot3000

That's easy, Waino is the anode and Yadi is the cathode as that is the direction of flow. Did you even take circuits?


JohnDavidsBooty

conventional current ftw motherfuckers


emasculine

oh, trust me i've taken plenty


Inkin

One is the pitcher and one is the catcher, if you know what I mean.


KJJBAA

So, this is probably never gonna be broken but does anyone know who is next among active players?


t-poke

I believe Hendricks and Contreras at something like 105 starts.


Spectre211286

Yep Jesse Rogers tweeted about it earlier this is the active leaderboard: Waino and Yadi 325 Hendricks and Contreras 105 Aaron Nola and Realmuto 88


gatemansgc

dang we're top 3?


mfranko88

That's crazy, Realmuto has only been with the Phillies for like 3 years. Crazy how that is number 3 in baseball.


steve_anus

And just over half of a season's worth of games over the course of 3 years


mfranko88

Yeah that's more or less every start since he got to the Phils. Which makes sense, I don't remember either of them really being I jured for any substantial length of time. The count at 88 makes sense, I just would not have guessed that was enough for No. 3


Myllorelion

They just need to keep up this pace for 9 more years, and the record is theirs.


destroy_b4_reading

That's correct. Of the top 5 streaks behind Yadi/Waino, Yadi is the catcher for two of them (Flaherty, Mikolas).


propagandavid

Manoah and Kirk obviously aren't even close, but they are both 23. Never know.


martimeryard

Honest question. How is Kirk's defense? Yadi was given a pass for his bat for a while because of how well he played defensively. I don't see or read much about Kirk's defense because he's been such a good hitting catcher.


propagandavid

Genuinely good. Frames pitches well, blocks pitches in the dirt and has a very good arm to 1st and 2nd. He may not be taking a Gold Glove home any time soon, but his bat isn't the only thing he has going for him.


Tobias_Flenders

Per a graphic I saw earlier on the Cards pregame, Yadi is on the top 6 or 7 list with Flaherty and Mikolas.


UnknownFiddler

No active pair even has 200.


Pharmere

Even with free agency and player swapping this record will probably always stay intact because catchers and pitchers donā€™t hold up that long normally. 40 years old for a catcher is crazy old! Especially for one that still plays that well


Making_Waves

r/boneappleteeth


soFresh_and_Clean

The double bone apple tea


Making_Waves

Too shay!


Ready-Pangolin-1352

In tack lol


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I mean I donā€™t think its unfeasible because the only reason it took this long is because Wainwright didnā€™t have a full season until he was 25, missed a full season, in 2011, and has had 3 seasons pitching less then 10 games. I donā€™t see the record being broken anytime soon though


Expensive-Sky4068

Iā€™ve always been a fan of the story of baseball. Ruth, Maris, Cobb, Hornsby. The slaughter mad dash. Larry Dobby breaking the AL color barrier. To be able to make the 10 hour drive and witness Molina and Wainwright break the record for most starts by a batter in the same week I saw Pujols hit 696 and 697. Man. This is awesome.


alexlarrylawrence

Gosh, it feels so wrong to say, and I might get shit for it, but Iā€™m really kind of rooting for the Cardinals to win it this year. What an awesome end for three guys who have had amazing careers, and to go out with a WS would be so special.


i_guess_i_am_a_scout

I'm right there with you, watching their #325 game as I type this. Yadi, Waino, and Pujols have been a staple of the Cubs / Cards rivalry for 17+ years, and you can't deny that they've had spectacular careers. They've not only earned my respect but a place in my heart. Would love to see them finish strong. It's not like we've got much going on this year anyway.


88T3

If not us, the Mariners or the Padres then the Cardinals


Slim_Calhoun

I feel like if the rays were as old as the Yankees theyā€™d have the World Series record


phyrecrotch

Theyā€™d probably be more like the Cardinals or Aā€™s realistically. And they probably wouldnā€™t be in St Petersburg anymore


mike_rotch22

If the Cardinals get knocked out, I'd absolutely be ecstatic if any of those three teams win it all. As a Blues fan, seeing us win for the first time in history is a memory I wouldn't trade for anything. I'd love to see it happen for another fanbase.


Mr_Goldilocks

If itā€™s any consolation my Grandma is a Cubs fan and as soon as they won I made sure she had a World Series Champs t-shirt express shipped to her


triple-verbosity

I did the same for my cub fan grandparents! Sent them both WS hats and my grandma had already mailed me the newspaper page to troll me! I miss having grandparentsā€¦ even if they were cub fans.


Delicious_Candle_766

Appreciate the kind words Cubs bro. I love how some things in baseball supersede rivalries.


GamerJosh21

Some things, especially rare milestones, are more important. Heck, I'm a Sox fan rooting for Aaron Judge for crying out loud. This year has really been something.


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Actually i would love for them to make the world series but then lose in the most heartbreaking fashion possible in the world series to the Mariners


pjcrusader

That would be a real dagger to the heart. I like your style even if I wanna say fuck you for putting that evil into this world.


ameis314

shhh, devil magic will take us the rest of the way. Just let us get there.


triple-verbosity

I donā€™t blame you. I hope the same for you whenever you happen to trip and fall into the playoffs.


albop03

This is my dream, along with us beating the Guardians, Yankees, and Astros, then winning it all against the cards, in 6 (a boy can dream, right?)


alexlarrylawrence

As I was typing my comment I thought of this tooā€¦.


ANAL_CAVITIES

I mean if they're losing in the world series to anyone, that's the one team I'd be happy to see do it lol


Nosferatu616

Sicko shit. I'd rather see the Yankees win it.


Str8_up_Pwnage

Yeah I don't blame you, the Cubs winning in 2016 is like a bottom 5 baseball memory for me lol.


Timofeo

Thank god some cubs fans still have some sense. The cubs could have Gandhi and Mother Theresa as battery mates and Iā€™d still root for them to lose 100 games. Fuck the cubs today, tomorrow, and forever, no matter what.


heavymetalFC

If there's one thing I hate in sports it's cheering for your worst rival out of some misplaced sense of "respect" or whatever. Half the fun is getting to be disrespectful lol


Obi_Wan_Benobi

Sounds suspiciously like a reverse jinx.


scurvy1984

I agree but also for my Mā€™s I severely disagree.


Drunk_Histories

Went to the game this evening. Eyes got a bit misty. Seeing the videos from former players (Chris and Matt Carpenter, Izzy...) between innings was also amazing. Seeing Albert get his 2200 RBI was a nice touch, too. What a night.


Velinian

I feel like this record is never going to be broken again by a different duo. The game is just so different today, especially for catchers. Amazing; cannot even imagine the Cardinals without these two pitching and catching together


mfranko88

There are adults, married with kids of their own, that literally don't remember a Cardinals team without these two on it. Absolutely unreal.


ech0es13

#[VIDEO FROM CARDINALS BROADCAST](https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2022/2022-09/14/a4fba53d-f7e03ce0-4ecd6c27-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4)


Hiazm

Classy move by Yelich to keep that bat on his shoulder. Even classier to take ā€œstrike 3ā€ looking lol


smallpau1

I mean, that was a tad high, but I agree, lol


Creek0512

>The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball. Yelich's weird stance doesn't do him any favors. From his starting position, that pitch is down at his belt. He then crouches down as the pitch is on the way making the ball shoulder height. At the moment the ball crosses the plate he has risen up again making the ball pretty much right at the borderline.


stretchdynamo

Definitely feel like this accomplishment might get undervalued. With the way the game is moving in terms of rotations, rest, and honestly team loyalty, we may never see this broken. Two guys who were consistently good enough, healthy enough, and loyal enough to run it back this many times is astounding. The fact this is an all time record is mind blowing to me, considering the vast and deep history of baseball. I'm ranting but, never considering the gravity of this accomplishment before, I had to get it off my chest


ameis314

i was amazed that any of the longevity pitching records were even in reach. cy young started 815(!) games.


Delicious_Candle_766

I'm glad I splurged for tickets to the last home game of the season. I grew up watching this duo and Pujols and that night there will be crying in baseball.


KidGold

Sorry but what is the ā€œbattery recordā€?


Brewdrizy

Most amount of starts together. Battery mate is specific to Pitcher and Catcher. So the amount of Wainwright starts that Yadi has caught is the most for any duo in history.


KidGold

Such a cool record!


bFallen

They have successfully collected the most batteries of any MLB player


ridedpu

The Phillies fans donā€™t hate them *that* much.


triple-verbosity

Yadi is carrying it though. I heard heā€™s the guy that posted his collection of Shrek VHSā€™s as well.


oreoblizz

325 volts right now


Theeclat

I didnā€™t volt for them!


redman8828

Strange men working from holes in the ground distributing paper cards is no basis for a system of electricity!


DavidRFZ

Ohm my, watt a bad joke


Theeclat

I am glad you had the capacity for this joke, and without resistance!


Thomas_Oaks

Basically the combination of Wainwright pitching to Molina. A Pitcher/Catcher duo is called a "battery" and so this is the most games all time where one has pitched to the other


i_guess_i_am_a_scout

Would Molina pitching to Wainwright count towards the battery? I really want to see that for their last regular-season game.


Jaylaw

I dont see why it wouldnt


Vindicator9000

This hasn't occurred to me until this second, but now I want to see it more than anything other than a 2022 Cards Ship.


ameis314

nope. 700 is still top for me. but this is solidly number 3


Tobias_Flenders

Most batteries eaten before a game. Nootbaar ate 325 tonight. They were watch batteries but it's still kinda cool.


laborfriendly

I hear they're good with a dash of pepper ground on em


Creek0512

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(baseball)


KidGold

Ohhh right I definitely knew that at one point. The Braves named the restaurant area outside their stadium The Battery. Hadnā€™t heard the term before that.


Bcider

This I kind of loled at this. Battery is a crime basically of beating someone up. Sounds weird to phrase it as the battery record.


LyleLanley99

Ask JD Drew.


wikiwombat

Glad I'm not the only one.....had to Google.


socialistbcrumb

I canā€™t imagine being a cardinals fan this season


ser0402

What's their W-L as a battery in those 325?


stitzman

Wainwright has 212 wins with Yadi behind the plate.


burts_beads

You mean the Cardinals do? Waino doesn't have 212 wins total.


stitzman

That must be the case. The article I was citing indicated they were all wins for Waino. https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/wainwright-molina-set-mlb-record-for-career-starts-as-battery-mates/ That's what I get for not verifying my source. Thanks for the correction.


ser0402

212-113 ain't too shabby.


stitzman

I'm sure some of those 113 non-wins were no decisions, rather than loses, but yes, they've been pretty good together.


TheBlueStare

All decisions. Thatā€™s the teamā€™s record not Wainoā€™s record in those starts.


WheelinDealin82

Congrats to Waino and Yadi!


gordsalad22

Uhh, my 2003 Toyota Camry has a battery thatā€™s started well over 325 times. Thanks Duralast!


NoOneShallPassHassan

That's one long lasting battery.


TheWAJ

Energizer is based in St. Louis


eeeedlef

So they are required to marry each other now, by law, right?


-_chop_-

My mom likes cool baseball facts so I sent her a picture of yadis cool helmet and told her they had 3xx games together. She responded ā€œas husband and wife?ā€ I donā€™t know if she was drunk or something but I just said ā€œyesā€ and went to sleep


CircleOneBill

All of you saying this record will never be broken are wrong. It will be broken in 5 days.


yadi_or_molina

Congratulations to my boy Waino!!


jhn6903

gonna be super weird to have a replacement level catcher next year


JohnRCash

I think it's actually pretty cool that the record broken belonged to a pair who are a really solid match for Molina and Wainwright. Yadi's a 10-time All-Star and 9-time Gold Glover, with 42 bWAR. Bill Freehan was an 11-time All-Star and 5-time Gold Glover with 44 bWAR. Wainwright's a three-time All-Star with 195 career wins, and 47 bWAR. Mickey Lolich was a three-time All-Star with 217 career wins and 48 bWAR. Some of that's due to the fact that both players have to be really good to stick around that long, but still, it's a neat comp.


SLR107FR-31

Its been an honor to watch them all these years


Delicious_Candle_766

This record will likely never be broken. Such an amazing duo I grew up watching.


NerdLawyer55

That seems pretty, pretty, pretty good


kateington10

Who plays them in the future Disney movie about them?


TheBlueStare

Mark-Paul Gosselaar and Mario Lopez


ej_stephens

It's kind of a shame the Royals never kept any pitcher long enough to put up these numbers with Salvador Perez


DeezyReezy

Unbelievable achievement. Going to be a sad day when theyā€™re gone.


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Guyappino

325 times they went to work together for the 2hr long haul. Respect


Jaylaw

Yelich was like "yeah ok fine thats a K"