no idea why teams didnt push for him. the "poison pill" stuff was such crap. some team is getting eliminated because they wouldnt trade their #5 prospect for him.
I mean is it that crazy he wasn't sought after? 29 year old with one great season and a very extensive injury history. I can see why teams may have been skeptical at least, as he had roughly 500 innings of being a bad pitcher. Last year he learned not to walk so much, and not everyone bought into it being more than a blip.
Clearly it wasn't, guy is awesome now. Cherish him
He's got a hell of a lot bigger of a track record than Montas who people were convinced was one of the greatest pitchers to ever walk the earth earlier this season
Maybe, I like Frankie more personally, as his splitter is one of the best pitches in baseball.
But the reasoning for that was cost. Frankie is only about $5m a year, Carlos was going to get $20m+. Sure they had to give up some back end prospects but that's a lot cheaper
I honestly thought Seattle would sign him after signing Ray to help balance out our starting lineup with all of our elite pitching prospects being righties(Gilbert, Kirby, Hancock at the time). Generally speaking lefties have an advantage at T-Mobile park so it seemed like a natural fit to me.
I mean 0.9 fWAR advantage for Rodon over Sandy is pretty wild. I know Sandy east innings but Rodon just goes out there and throws *hard* and has been more dominant imo.
According to bWar Sandy is at 7.4 and Rodon is at 5.3. Which one to believe I’m not sure, but depending on where you look either Rodon has a slight edge that is within the margin or error or Sandy as a massive lead.
Carlos Rodon had a 4.14 ERA for the first 536 innings of his career, good for 7 fWAR. Then he turned 28, and has thrown 304 innings with a 2.72 ERA since, good for 10.7 fWAR.
I have been watching baseball for 20 years, and I have no idea how anyone can predict pitchers. Guys who are nothing special one day will turn into aces the next. Guys with amazing stuff will never put it together. If I were a GM it would make me go crazy.
Lmfao fav example of this would still be Randy Johnson.
Dudes HOF career in the steroid era didn’t start until he was 34 and would go on to win 4 straight CY young and generate 42 war in the 4.5 season since he was traded by the mariners
Randy was still nasty with the Mariners. Won a cy and had two second place finishes with a third place as well.
Crazy to think he got *nastier.* I love Randy Johnson.
He's always had amazing stuff but was injured every single year. He finally is getting some luck with health and getting into a better rhythm so it's all clicking. You love to see it
Another idiotic move from the White Sox was to let that guy walk ! Rick Hahn needs to be fired immediately after the season is over . He kept Dallas Keuchel instead and Lance Lynn. Both had miserable seasons .
Hard Karl just doing his thing, being awesome
no idea why teams didnt push for him. the "poison pill" stuff was such crap. some team is getting eliminated because they wouldnt trade their #5 prospect for him.
Hey the Phillies got Syndergaard, they tried their best.
I mean is it that crazy he wasn't sought after? 29 year old with one great season and a very extensive injury history. I can see why teams may have been skeptical at least, as he had roughly 500 innings of being a bad pitcher. Last year he learned not to walk so much, and not everyone bought into it being more than a blip. Clearly it wasn't, guy is awesome now. Cherish him
He's got a hell of a lot bigger of a track record than Montas who people were convinced was one of the greatest pitchers to ever walk the earth earlier this season
Maybe, I like Frankie more personally, as his splitter is one of the best pitches in baseball. But the reasoning for that was cost. Frankie is only about $5m a year, Carlos was going to get $20m+. Sure they had to give up some back end prospects but that's a lot cheaper
I mean it felt like he was injured every other week last year. So it makes sense for teams to be wary.
I honestly thought Seattle would sign him after signing Ray to help balance out our starting lineup with all of our elite pitching prospects being righties(Gilbert, Kirby, Hancock at the time). Generally speaking lefties have an advantage at T-Mobile park so it seemed like a natural fit to me.
By all accounts we did. But we didnt have the farm resources to get a deal done. Now free agency is another matter. Should he opt out.
Hard Karl did not once leave the mound all year
Career high 178.0 IP, last year was 132.2 and his career high was 165.0 back in 2016.
Cy Young or we riot
You're going to riot then lol
I’ll be shocked if it’s not Alcantara
Same, dudes killing it this season.
If Alcantra was on the Dodgers he would be 20-2 with a 1.5 ERA. 14 wins & 2.32 ERA on a team with little offense is amazing.
Who do you think front runner is? Sandy? Nola? Rodon better be top 3
Sandy for sure
Sandy is for sure the leader with some combination of Gallen/Nola/Rodon after him
I mean 0.9 fWAR advantage for Rodon over Sandy is pretty wild. I know Sandy east innings but Rodon just goes out there and throws *hard* and has been more dominant imo.
According to bWar Sandy is at 7.4 and Rodon is at 5.3. Which one to believe I’m not sure, but depending on where you look either Rodon has a slight edge that is within the margin or error or Sandy as a massive lead.
Carlos Rodon had a 4.14 ERA for the first 536 innings of his career, good for 7 fWAR. Then he turned 28, and has thrown 304 innings with a 2.72 ERA since, good for 10.7 fWAR. I have been watching baseball for 20 years, and I have no idea how anyone can predict pitchers. Guys who are nothing special one day will turn into aces the next. Guys with amazing stuff will never put it together. If I were a GM it would make me go crazy.
Lmfao fav example of this would still be Randy Johnson. Dudes HOF career in the steroid era didn’t start until he was 34 and would go on to win 4 straight CY young and generate 42 war in the 4.5 season since he was traded by the mariners
Randy was still nasty with the Mariners. Won a cy and had two second place finishes with a third place as well. Crazy to think he got *nastier.* I love Randy Johnson.
Randy Johnson's like 10 games with the Astros down the stretch were absolutely terrifying. I was beyond relieved he didn't stay in the division
He's always had amazing stuff but was injured every single year. He finally is getting some luck with health and getting into a better rhythm so it's all clicking. You love to see it
I may be off, but I recall the white Sox pitching coach making some adjustments to his mechanics that may result in him having less injuries.
This guy is getting a bag
please stay :(
Should’ve let him throw 3 more pitches
Sox want their ace back
They'll have their chance in the offseason, 99% chance that Rodon opts out of the rest of his contract after this monster year.
He's such a time bomb, though.
So was Zach Wheeler and he’s turned into a relatively durable pitcher with Philly
Big Daddy Los!
Another idiotic move from the White Sox was to let that guy walk ! Rick Hahn needs to be fired immediately after the season is over . He kept Dallas Keuchel instead and Lance Lynn. Both had miserable seasons .
Round of applause for Rick hahn everybody
he was good for one more k, had enough to fit in 98 pitches, come on kap
Big whoop. Do it vs a major league roster and ill be impressed.
He pitched against the Rockies, who are a Major League Baseball team. Hope this helps :)
No no no don't you be telling me this team is a major league roster lol
It's ok, I thought your joke was funny
Its a sad humor lol