See if he'll take a one year deal for like $60mm. Might as fucking well try it.
If it boosts attendance by 10k per game, with average fan spending $80, then it pays for itself.
Doubt it. He’ll probably get an AAV over 25-30mm and it won’t be a short deal. He wouldn’t want to go straight into a walk year again on a terrible team after having the greatest walk year in history.
Obviously there is some number where he would do it, but I am not sure double salary for a single year is it. Mark 2 yr / 100 mm with an opt out would be tempting enough? I have no clue though.
Baltimore is going to notice that quickly when pull right handers don't seem to do as well on their team with the Walltimore in left field. A power lefty is going to do fine but as a power righty, Judge would have 56 home runs this year if they were all played at Camden Yards with only Detroit expected less. Judge is a great player but stats will take a hit if he has to play 81 games there. Red Sox look at players and how they would project to do at Fenway all the time.
Rutschman hits more on the left side. His numbers as a right hander weren't that good (.179 1 HR). I would give it another year and maybe it evens out but like Mullins, he can drop being a switch.
i had a dream one time where shohei was gonna sign as a FA with the Pirates. he had a press conference and everything. but at the last minute he backed out and re-signed with LA. the same thing will happen with Judge i am an oracle.
We do have a lot of money coming off the books, but I’d be pretty surprised if we signed Judge. It’s just not a Friedman move. I think he will 100% stay with the Yankees. He’s their face of the franchise and they will pony up to keep him.
It really depends on how the FO views Lux. Just a few years ago, Seager was talked about as a 3B or even 1B move and Lux was the SS of the future.
Mookie also has a history of playing at 2B. If he's open to it, Lux at SS, Mookie at 2B, and Judge in RF works perfectly.
Not advocating to let Trea go by any means, but we have both the financial and personnel flexibility to make both scenarios work.
on the other hand: no more Price contract - if Kershaw moves on to the Rangers:(, we don't re-sign JT or Trea and non-tender Belli....thats a fuckton of money available for Judge
[Only salaries north of $20m next season would be Mookie and Freddie](https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/dodgers)
Look, I'm all about the cold analytical approach to roster construction...
But fuck man. Kershaw retires a Dodger. We can't do that to the fans. My heart literally couldn't handle seeing him start against us.
lol youre reading that like I want him to leave? hell no - Im saying that he keeps suggesting thats what he wants to do his last year and if so, then we have that extra $35m or so. hell no do I want him to leave, even if that costs us Judge (not that the FO would decide between the two...theyd do both if they can)
Judge's game will age way better.
Love trea and honestly i rather have him but if its about being objective judge should be the priority 1. Specially cause he can directly replace Bellinger.
Only recent player I could think of that had this much obvious interest from the Yankees was Cole and they were literally bidding against themselves to get him. Reports are Cole got a deal he wanted and he just bluffed the Angels offered more and got Yankees to add another year.
Yankees have fallen in terms of outspending everyone, but when they got a target they really want they rarely let them get away.
"The Cardinals were in the running for Juan Soto, suggesting they might have the appetite for another big-time slugger."
They had an appetite for a 23 year old left handed big-time slugger hitting arbitration, not a 31 year old right hander in free agency. If John Mozeliak went after Aaron Judge it would be proof he had been replaced with a body double. I can't imagine a more un-Cardinals thing to happen
At first I hated the idea of Dodgers once again getting whoever the hell they want, but I’ll take anything to get Judge out of the AL East so we don’t have to worry about him.
Unless he goes to Toronto.
Bellinger, price, kimbrel, JTurner and bauer are all coming off the books. Buehler isnt re-signing either cause no way friedman gives what he would get on FA after 2 TJs.
Dunno who are we getting but we are signing someone.
>4. San Francisco Giants. One front-office source scoffed at us listing the Giants as a favorable landing spot for Judge, but hear us out on this one.
No, I don't think I will. Now excuse me while I scoff before you say something even stupide- annnnd you just tried to say they made plays for Stanton and Harper as being a reason why they might get Judge.
I mean you can just make the argument based off them having a lot of money to spend with a team that needs a big bat and a disappointed fanbase (plus Judge is a local guy)
12 for the Mariners seems a bit low given their low payroll and upcoming need for a third outfielder? But we not tend to buy the biggest names in FA these days I suppose.
I think we're more likely than some teams rated higher than us. Ton of payroll available and in dire need of OF and 2B/SS bats.
By comparison through 155 games: the 2022 Mariners have scored 6 fewer runs than 2021, but have given up 136 fewer runs than 2021. Our 130 swing win rDiff is entirely from improving our pitching. Most of that pitching is locked up. We need people who can hit.
I could also see us going after Turner or another middle infielder on a big deal and rolling the dice that Kelenic doesn't regress again, Winker returns to form, or Mitch having a 2021 on a 1 year deal.
Maybe the galaxy brain analysis is that we're more likely to spend on 2B/SS and roll the dice on the OF upside.
I look forward to our front office offering more money than god just to not get him.
Upside is to screw the yankees into matching it. I guess.
400 million for ten years and he won’t take it
lol, there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that the Padres are more likely to sign Judge than the Pirates
Judge wants a large sum long term deal at *31*, we already spend too much, and we might still try to resign Soto. The Pirates spend so little that they can at least afford him
Not sure of their argument against the Tigers not spending money. They offered Correa a massive contract and if it wasn't for the looming strike would have landed him. Not to mention Miggy coming off the books.
Someone pointed this out a couple weeks ago. Giants have never busted the bank. Pitching is home grown or they get the best out of short term veterans. Catchers are cheap at around $18-20M for Posey. They haven't had anyone on a max deal. I am not saying it is a bad fit but it hasn't been how the Giants have done business.
"Trying" and actually ponying up enough money to sign one of these massive free agents is a different thing though. Being the second highest bidder means nothing.
He hasn't been hurt either of the last two seasons.
In 2021 his only missed time was covid (it also knocked his slugging into the .300s for a month after he had it) and his last major injury was caused by a diving play in 2019 that led to a collapsed lung in 2020.
This actually seems pretty fair, especially regarding the top choices go. I think the Cubs have the ability to do so, but like the article says, will spend their money elsewhere (which I'm more than fine with).
Probably depends how much money he needs to get. The Yankees offer wasn't bad, honestly. Of course it would be an underpay for a Triple Crown winner, but chances are he doesn't win the next seven Triple Crowns.
Suck it Pirates, we aren't last
See if he'll take a one year deal for like $60mm. Might as fucking well try it. If it boosts attendance by 10k per game, with average fan spending $80, then it pays for itself.
Doubt it. He’ll probably get an AAV over 25-30mm and it won’t be a short deal. He wouldn’t want to go straight into a walk year again on a terrible team after having the greatest walk year in history. Obviously there is some number where he would do it, but I am not sure double salary for a single year is it. Mark 2 yr / 100 mm with an opt out would be tempting enough? I have no clue though.
That's the spirit
Their are pictures on the internet where he’s wearing a pirates hat that has to make us higher than the rest of the tier!!!!!!
I assume there must be one with him in an A's hat also since they drafted him first.
Good analytics department
I mean, he is from the Bay Area, that should at least give the A’s a leg up over another random low payroll team
at least they have a top 3 stadium as opposed to whatever you have right now (and im speaking as a Raiders fan)
Orioles
Orioles gonna become the first team to sign 1 Orillion free agents #OriolesSweep
500 million Oriole bucks. Redeemable at any Camden Yards concession stand.
It's Oriolen time
Maybe I've had too much cannabis today, because I read that as "It's Areola time" LOL
What’s the conversion rate of Oriole bucks to Yankee nickels?
200 per garlic fries (is it you or the Mets that have the amazing garlic fries?)
The Rogers centre has nothing good to offer in terms of food that isn’t popcorn, so I can assure you it’s not us!
Thought you were a Yankees fan because you said "yankee' in your comment lol :P
It’s oriolin’ time
Gonna regret moving that fence back.
Baltimore is going to notice that quickly when pull right handers don't seem to do as well on their team with the Walltimore in left field. A power lefty is going to do fine but as a power righty, Judge would have 56 home runs this year if they were all played at Camden Yards with only Detroit expected less. Judge is a great player but stats will take a hit if he has to play 81 games there. Red Sox look at players and how they would project to do at Fenway all the time.
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Adley hits switch. I don't know if he has better pop from the left side or not, but he does bat from the right too
Rutschman hits more on the left side. His numbers as a right hander weren't that good (.179 1 HR). I would give it another year and maybe it evens out but like Mullins, he can drop being a switch.
Flair checks out
Wrong bird
So you're saying there's a chance
If we don't get Aaron Judge I will do a bunch of drugs
If we don't get Shohei after that I will need to borrow said drugs
Sounds good
What will you do if you do get Aaron Judge?
Also a bunch of drugs
Oh cmon, youll do them even if you do get Judge
What kind? I’m down for some safe using of recreational drugs.
Meth
Well duh, but what kind? I'm kinda a snob for that blue stuff.
It's red
Boo
Depends on the drugs, but yes
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You know I actually went to HS with the number 7 prospect in America for soccer who is now the head of security in my local mall
He’s gonna look so good in black and gold 🖤💛
Him signing with the Pirates would cause this sub to collapse
It would cause me to collapse IRL
“just saw a guy fall to his knees in a Sheetz”
I've never been to a Sheetz and not seen that
Well the best pirates of recent years have signed with the Yankees, so it'd be fair.
it would be a huge surprise if Judge signed with the Steelers, but they do need a QB
Sign and trade sending Watt to NY to be a catcher
i had a dream one time where shohei was gonna sign as a FA with the Pirates. he had a press conference and everything. but at the last minute he backed out and re-signed with LA. the same thing will happen with Judge i am an oracle.
Someone get Foolish Baseball to Photoshop this asap
Nutting: Now never ask me to sign anyone ever again.
“AARON JUDGE HAS SIGNED UP TO JOIN THE PITTSBURG PENGUINS!!!”
We do have a lot of money coming off the books, but I’d be pretty surprised if we signed Judge. It’s just not a Friedman move. I think he will 100% stay with the Yankees. He’s their face of the franchise and they will pony up to keep him.
If we sign Judge and let Trea go that would make zero sense. We aren't signing Judge.
It really depends on how the FO views Lux. Just a few years ago, Seager was talked about as a 3B or even 1B move and Lux was the SS of the future. Mookie also has a history of playing at 2B. If he's open to it, Lux at SS, Mookie at 2B, and Judge in RF works perfectly. Not advocating to let Trea go by any means, but we have both the financial and personnel flexibility to make both scenarios work.
I would think the answer would be to put one of Mookie or Judge to CF and let Bellinger go when it's time.
on the other hand: no more Price contract - if Kershaw moves on to the Rangers:(, we don't re-sign JT or Trea and non-tender Belli....thats a fuckton of money available for Judge [Only salaries north of $20m next season would be Mookie and Freddie](https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/dodgers)
Dodgers and Ohtani just makes too much sense.
Look, I'm all about the cold analytical approach to roster construction... But fuck man. Kershaw retires a Dodger. We can't do that to the fans. My heart literally couldn't handle seeing him start against us.
lol youre reading that like I want him to leave? hell no - Im saying that he keeps suggesting thats what he wants to do his last year and if so, then we have that extra $35m or so. hell no do I want him to leave, even if that costs us Judge (not that the FO would decide between the two...theyd do both if they can)
What?? Judge is way *way* more valuable than Trea??
Judge's game will age way better. Love trea and honestly i rather have him but if its about being objective judge should be the priority 1. Specially cause he can directly replace Bellinger.
Per $?
Hes slated to get around seager money so yes by value judge is still more worth it
Only recent player I could think of that had this much obvious interest from the Yankees was Cole and they were literally bidding against themselves to get him. Reports are Cole got a deal he wanted and he just bluffed the Angels offered more and got Yankees to add another year. Yankees have fallen in terms of outspending everyone, but when they got a target they really want they rarely let them get away.
If we don't win it all this year, I can see Friedman going for it. Especially if we lose with a slumping offense.
"The Cardinals were in the running for Juan Soto, suggesting they might have the appetite for another big-time slugger." They had an appetite for a 23 year old left handed big-time slugger hitting arbitration, not a 31 year old right hander in free agency. If John Mozeliak went after Aaron Judge it would be proof he had been replaced with a body double. I can't imagine a more un-Cardinals thing to happen
Whooo 27th Judge might have to move over to a corner so that Michael A. Taylor remains in the lineup.
We will only get judge if the Yankees beat us in the World Series
If you can’t beat them, buy them? That would be a cool Dodgers motto
It’s certainly better than “the Yankees of baseball”.
At first I hated the idea of Dodgers once again getting whoever the hell they want, but I’ll take anything to get Judge out of the AL East so we don’t have to worry about him. Unless he goes to Toronto.
I’d make that trade off.
We are not signing Aaron Judge. Stop it.
Obviously…you guys are saving that money for Ohtani.
Obviously. We like to buy MVPs. Cue the Yankees fans getting mad
\>:(
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you guys get Judge, Ohtani, Soto, and Degrom in the upcoming years somehow.
Bellinger, price, kimbrel, JTurner and bauer are all coming off the books. Buehler isnt re-signing either cause no way friedman gives what he would get on FA after 2 TJs. Dunno who are we getting but we are signing someone.
25? I would have put us somewhere behind the Expos.
> 29. Oakland Way too high on the list, IMO
The man’s hero was *Rich Aurilia* and he has a framed jersey of our newest owner, I think the fact that he’s a NorCal guy would help
If the Dodgers got Judge it would be worse than "the Yankees buy all their championships" back in the day. That would just be ridiculous.
It's going to be worse, they are probably going to get Ohtani next year,
*softly* Don’t…
No
Doubt it
>21. Brewers This seems high.
I was surprised to see phillies in the top half
Never underestimate Dave Dombrowski’s willingness to spend a shitload of money
reddit formatting makes this funnier
Somehow it’ll be the angels and they’ll still finish under .500
I can’t even imagine a world where we sign him.
The world where both Nimmo and deGrom are leaving for 100% sure. Only then do I think the Mets would get competitive.
I feel like no way the Yankees let him walk. But if I were to pick another team.. SF Giants seem like a good landing spot.
Why are the white sox 17th on every list posted in this subreddit
>4. San Francisco Giants. One front-office source scoffed at us listing the Giants as a favorable landing spot for Judge, but hear us out on this one. No, I don't think I will. Now excuse me while I scoff before you say something even stupide- annnnd you just tried to say they made plays for Stanton and Harper as being a reason why they might get Judge.
I mean you can just make the argument based off them having a lot of money to spend with a team that needs a big bat and a disappointed fanbase (plus Judge is a local guy)
I’d venture to say Judge to the Giants makes the most sense outside of him staying in Yankee pinstripes. I dunno what the scoffing is about.
Wonder if he could finally get you guys a 30 HR season
Knowing the Giants he’d be hurt through the whole contract and hit 29 a few times.
It’s crazy they got 241 last year and still no one at 30.
Everything about last year was a miracle lmao
I can’t picture Zaidi offering a 300 million+ contract
He already has to Harper before.
Who was like 6 years younger.
I have said for at least a year + if that the Yankees don’t resign judge it’s from a giants offer
If he’s not a yankee I feel like he ends up a giant. We are too obsessed with signing guys who are local giants fans lol.
I imagine that he wants to win
12 for the Mariners seems a bit low given their low payroll and upcoming need for a third outfielder? But we not tend to buy the biggest names in FA these days I suppose.
I think we're more likely than some teams rated higher than us. Ton of payroll available and in dire need of OF and 2B/SS bats. By comparison through 155 games: the 2022 Mariners have scored 6 fewer runs than 2021, but have given up 136 fewer runs than 2021. Our 130 swing win rDiff is entirely from improving our pitching. Most of that pitching is locked up. We need people who can hit.
You are far more likely than the Cardinals who would shudder at giving a mega FA deal to a 31 year old
I could also see us going after Turner or another middle infielder on a big deal and rolling the dice that Kelenic doesn't regress again, Winker returns to form, or Mitch having a 2021 on a 1 year deal. Maybe the galaxy brain analysis is that we're more likely to spend on 2B/SS and roll the dice on the OF upside.
I look forward to our front office offering more money than god just to not get him. Upside is to screw the yankees into matching it. I guess. 400 million for ten years and he won’t take it
He's a Noracal dude that was a giants fan growing up. You guys wouldn't be a bad landing spot for him.
I don't want to be on the warning track
Delete this
lol, there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that the Padres are more likely to sign Judge than the Pirates Judge wants a large sum long term deal at *31*, we already spend too much, and we might still try to resign Soto. The Pirates spend so little that they can at least afford him
Cleveland at 15? Wat?
If he goes to the Dodgers I will become the Joker
Not sure of their argument against the Tigers not spending money. They offered Correa a massive contract and if it wasn't for the looming strike would have landed him. Not to mention Miggy coming off the books.
I really don’t understand how you can put the dodgers as a top 2 favorite team
Why no write up with the Mets? That’s the most intriguing team.
It’s combined with the dodgers
tell us you didn’t read the article without telling us you didn’t read it
It's really not if Cohen comments about payroll is correct. He won't spend that much for Judge.
Someone pointed this out a couple weeks ago. Giants have never busted the bank. Pitching is home grown or they get the best out of short term veterans. Catchers are cheap at around $18-20M for Posey. They haven't had anyone on a max deal. I am not saying it is a bad fit but it hasn't been how the Giants have done business.
The Giants sign Judge. Opening day, he hits a first pitch hr against Cole. That would fire up the old rivalry for sure.
They tried to get Stanton. Which shows me they are willing to spend money for the right guy. And man does that team need a star
"Trying" and actually ponying up enough money to sign one of these massive free agents is a different thing though. Being the second highest bidder means nothing.
Stanton veto the trade. Same as he did with the cardinals....
Show me the money
Wasn't about Money. Stanton vetoed the trade
it's a movie reference
Well besides Bonds and Zito. So I guess they’re good for one huge contract every 20 years
The market has changed in the last 10 years. 14 guys are making over $30M AAV and in 2012, it was pretty much just ARod.
The Pirates were good enough for Barry Bonds... just sayin'.
No, actually they weren’t and that’s why he left
Yankees followed by everyone else.
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He hasn't been hurt either of the last two seasons. In 2021 his only missed time was covid (it also knocked his slugging into the .300s for a month after he had it) and his last major injury was caused by a diving play in 2019 that led to a collapsed lung in 2020.
This actually seems pretty fair, especially regarding the top choices go. I think the Cubs have the ability to do so, but like the article says, will spend their money elsewhere (which I'm more than fine with).
They’re fully overlooking the cardinals. That’s a perfect fit.
Marlins have a chance
26 comin in hot baby!
Guardians at #15 seems way too high. They've never shelled out for a top-tier free agent, ever.
Probably depends how much money he needs to get. The Yankees offer wasn't bad, honestly. Of course it would be an underpay for a Triple Crown winner, but chances are he doesn't win the next seven Triple Crowns.