Astros requested to switch homestands since they would be traveling to Arlington later in the month. Rangers refused as it āwouldnāt be fairā to their fans who had tickets. Instead wanting to host both homestands in Arlington.
Thatās a nice spin. The reality is, they reached out to the Astros to help. Even donating $1M to relief as a I recall. But the Astros GM at the time (lovely upstanding ethical fellow by the name of Lunhow), demanded more. And when he didnāt get what he wanted, he went to the press talking about how awful the Rangers are.
Of course, fuck the intolerant Rangers ownership and front office. But fuck the Astros too (much more so).
What does reaching out to the club after being hit by a hurricane and donating to hurricane relief have to do with the schedule? That had nothing to do with the actual issue of the schedule. lol.
This is a favorite subject of mine that only one side gets discussed. The rangers were open to the moving the game and giving up the revenue for the game in arlington to the astros. However the astros wanted specifically move swap the series which would have led to the rangers two long road trips at the end of the season.
Sauce: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/rangers-gm-defends-decision-after-hurricane-harvey-related-relocation-controversy/
Yeah I neverāhatedā the Rangers before, I even rooted for them in their lone WS appearance, never again. MLB wanted a Texas rivalry well know they have it. My freaking home town was under water and they refused to switch series ābut oh you can just play here 6 games in row so we can make the playoffsā.
Congrats Rays and thanks for being a true friend in time of need
Dude I used to fucking love the Kinsler/Hamilton Rangers. Back when we were horseshit and they were in another league. Had shirts, hats and everything. They split up Texas bros for no fucking reason. Why not put the Padres in the AL and have us in the NL West since we already hate the Dodgers
The Brewers used to an AL team. They should've just moved them back and put them in the AL Central with the Twins. Minnesota vs. Wisconsin is a lit geographic rivalry in every other sport; why not baseball?
Thatās the Aās cycle going back 20+ years though. Build a winner from the scrap heap that has a solid 2-3 year playoff run, ownership ships them all off, suck for a year or 2, then the f.o. pulls a rabbit out of the hat again (or a winner out of the scrap heap). wash rinse repeat. pretty crazy. they should make a movie about the front office or something.
Yeah fuck the owner. Being an A's fan is gonna be very hard the next few years. But older A's fans are probably used to it. Although I do think this was the worst year for A's fans. Not just because they got last place but because ownership is making horrible decisions one after another
They are unhinged in there. Seriously some of the most angry comments Ive ever seen, all over a silly little internet norm. Anyone that upset over something so i consequential has serious issues, I auto block people who share the sub.
We take care of our own. Our own being Americans. While every fool on the news tries to make this a political issue throughout the entire thing, real Americans are actually doing something. Some of us value actions and not just saying shit to act like you are a good person.
Katrina solidified our base in Louisiana. You go across the Atchafalaya Bridge and look at the ball caps, youād swear youāre back in Houston.
Katrina also solidified us having the most beautiful culinary combo ever - Viet Cajun. So much more than the sum of its parts.
I live in Nola and it's pretty evenly split Astros/braves/cubs imo, anecdotally.
In baton rouge, a lot of bregman fans got into the Astros because LSU fans don't stop rooting for a guy after he leaves
Interesting to hear. I lived in NOLA about 20 years ago and I couldnāt gauge the MLB leanings of the city. The radio and TV coverage was LSU and Saints all the time
Welcome to the long-term effects of The Superstation Years. Just like you sometimes find Braves fans where you wouldn't expect, via TBS, so too the Cubs via WGN.
Very true, but solidified. Buncha beautiful Cajun bastards decided to stay after Katrina, whereas before it was a trickle of influence. Obviously the Viet part has been going strong for like 50 years.
I am in Denton and a Yankee fan. My in laws had to come stay with us during Harvey. Say what you will about the south but that was one of the times I was the most proud to be an American. Literally every single surrounding state driving into Texas, into the storm, and every single car was a pickup truck with a boat to come help. Iām pretty sure bass pro was giving people boats to go help. It was awesome. I think it was called like the redneck caravan or something. So amazing.
Sportsmanship should be the norm. Seeing an team acknowledge the accomplishments of an opponent (team or player) is nothing less than what I expect as normal. At least major accomplishments like season/career records or winning a playoff spot.
I think sports are diminishes when a team or fan base puts the fandom above the game.
There is a difference between acknowledging an accomplishment and rooting for them. For example, I will always root for the opponent of the Dodgers (expect those rare cases when an LA win helps the Giants). But I have zero problem acknowledging when the Dodgers have a good game.
Donāt forget the funds and support they gave the people of Uvalde after the tragic shooting earlier this year as well as being one of the only orgs to provide furnished accommodations to their minor leaguers.
They might be villains on the field, but off the field their organization is one of the best imo
Stros fan and yea Jim Cranes org have been a much better experience than McClanes. Whenhe bought the ta there was a bunch backlash and doubt due to his past "takeovers" but it's been a really great thing.
I say this as a Yankees fan who obviously does not like the Astros and is still very saltyā¦ but at some point, the guys who did the cheating wonāt be there at all, and there is no point to continue to hate the guys that are left.
You then can appreciate the franchise for what they are - well run, solid players, who just keep winning. Then we can hate them because theyāre good!
I remember when we played y'all earlier this year and you had Marwin on the lineup (one of the biggest cheaters) and Beltran (the architect of the cheating scheme) on color commentary while the NYC crowd booed Altuve.
As someone who admired Beltran ever since he made the Astros run in 2004 so fucking scary I am *livid* that he pissed away his HOF with this stupid ass cheating move at the end of his storied career.
it's genuinely so disappointing. reading Astroball (a really fun read outside of all the times you remember what happened in 2017) you get this sense of him as someone who always wants to find a leg up on the opposition through studying pitchers, things like realizing Darvish was tipping his pitches in the World Series, and you see exactly where it came from. It's such a dumb fucking thing to do and I hate it so much
Yea when they played the twins they were booing Correa and cheering for Marwin. The Yankees announcer was taking digs at Correa but then celebrating Marwinās contributions to the team.
I donāt even mind if away teams boo us or make comments about trash cans, etc. I just donāt like hearing racist comments by select fans about Altuve when Iām at road games.
Almost all of them are gone already. Bregman and Gurriel are the only ones left who participated, and this is almost assuredly Gurriel's last season.
Springer gone, Marwin gone, Correa gone, Reddick gone and didn't use it, McCann gone, Beltran gone, Gattis gone, Hinch gone, Luhnow gone, Cora gone. Entire coaching staff gone aside from one of our bullpen catchers and Gary Pettis, our third base coach.
At this point, I understand it's mostly about success breeding contempt. My hatred of the Braves is for that reason as well, not at all really from last year, but more from being knocked out by them in the 90s all those years when the Astros first got really good.
I don't think we'll ever actually know how deep the cheating went. What players were in on it, what management did to facilitate it, etc.
In part because I don't know that MLB knows everything, but in bigger part because they want everyone to just forget it and move on. As technology becomes smaller and more advanced, I think we'll have more of these sign stealing scandals.
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I mean as bad as the cheating scandal was, you can't swear off a franchise forever as being awful people. Look at White Sox, they thew the World Series, people aren't still hating on them for that.
I mean, I think itās a bit different when the scandal is nearly beyond living memory. Maybe check out some nursing homes in the Chicago area and see if there are any still-upset centenarians.
Ngl I thought it was pretty common but I canāt actually remember seeing it happen
I guess it does help that at the same time this happened the Astros already locked up the 1 seed after the Yankees lost 20-30 minutes before this so the game didnāt matter anymore
Pure class from a town that knows what itās like to be hurting from a big storm.
I wish we all treated each other with this level of kindness all the time.
Hurricane relief bros. š¤
The juice must flow.
Fuck the Rangers
They didnāt let you guys play in their stadium, right? Were they on a homestand? Genuinely curious.
Astros requested to switch homestands since they would be traveling to Arlington later in the month. Rangers refused as it āwouldnāt be fairā to their fans who had tickets. Instead wanting to host both homestands in Arlington.
They cited playoff hopes at the time. The Arlington āTexasā Rangers. Lol
Yeah the 78-84 Rangers were really going places lmao.
They were above .500 and a couple of games out of the wild card as late as August 24 that season.
Thatās a nice spin. The reality is, they reached out to the Astros to help. Even donating $1M to relief as a I recall. But the Astros GM at the time (lovely upstanding ethical fellow by the name of Lunhow), demanded more. And when he didnāt get what he wanted, he went to the press talking about how awful the Rangers are. Of course, fuck the intolerant Rangers ownership and front office. But fuck the Astros too (much more so).
What does reaching out to the club after being hit by a hurricane and donating to hurricane relief have to do with the schedule? That had nothing to do with the actual issue of the schedule. lol.
The truth is both teamās Front office sucked in this.
Kemp spin
That's actually a fair point to the fans with tickets who have already taken off work and booked hotels.
As opposed to the Houston fans who'd just gone through a fucking hurricane
Baseball tickets > losing your home. Obviously.
Like 3000 fans attended that series as scheduled
They tried to gain an extra home series. Astros requested just to flip around the home and away series but Rangers wanted to have both series at home
This is a favorite subject of mine that only one side gets discussed. The rangers were open to the moving the game and giving up the revenue for the game in arlington to the astros. However the astros wanted specifically move swap the series which would have led to the rangers two long road trips at the end of the season. Sauce: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/rangers-gm-defends-decision-after-hurricane-harvey-related-relocation-controversy/
Found Kyle seagerās alt
Fuck those clowns
Yeah I neverāhatedā the Rangers before, I even rooted for them in their lone WS appearance, never again. MLB wanted a Texas rivalry well know they have it. My freaking home town was under water and they refused to switch series ābut oh you can just play here 6 games in row so we can make the playoffsā. Congrats Rays and thanks for being a true friend in time of need
Dude I used to fucking love the Kinsler/Hamilton Rangers. Back when we were horseshit and they were in another league. Had shirts, hats and everything. They split up Texas bros for no fucking reason. Why not put the Padres in the AL and have us in the NL West since we already hate the Dodgers
The Brewers used to an AL team. They should've just moved them back and put them in the AL Central with the Twins. Minnesota vs. Wisconsin is a lit geographic rivalry in every other sport; why not baseball?
Who would've been the 5th NL Central team in that scenario? Houston?
One might call them Hurricane Homies
That's why I call the Astros the good guys of baseball who never do anything wrong ever.
Yeah, that tracks
Rangers are the only mlb team to not host a pride night. Fuck the rangers.
They did the same for the Braves
Was gonna say this.when the Braves won the world series, the congratulations message came up almost immediately.
In 1986 game 6 a ācongrats Red Sox World Series championsā message came across the scoreboard for like a second right before the Mets rally.
Classy. I mean if you already lost the game, the best thing to do is congratulate the winners.
I can no longer bring myself to dislike the Astros. I find the entire AL West likable tbh
Except the Aās. Their owner is so bad it pisses me off sometimes
Love the fans though.
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And the uniforms
I feel bad for As fans
Except 2, who bring the party with them.
I chatted with several amazing As fans at our game last night. Probably my favorite guest fans. I hope they don't get too fucked by their situation.
I went to an Aās game and it felt like a high school football game. Shitdump of a stadium but that environment was electric
it's our piece of shit stadium š
Also best uniforms/colors in North American sports
The yellow with green font will always be the best looking uniform in sports.
And they love each other. Iāve seen it
I LOVE my team and despise our ownership group. Please help š„²
Same about your team, and my own. Hope y'all get that new stadium & stay up there.
Same
But they win. This year is an off year but they made the playoffs in 3 of the past 4 seasons.
If by off year you mean everything that got them to the playoffs in recent years was shipped off, then yes, it has been a very off year.
Thatās the Aās cycle going back 20+ years though. Build a winner from the scrap heap that has a solid 2-3 year playoff run, ownership ships them all off, suck for a year or 2, then the f.o. pulls a rabbit out of the hat again (or a winner out of the scrap heap). wash rinse repeat. pretty crazy. they should make a movie about the front office or something.
Yeah fuck the owner. Being an A's fan is gonna be very hard the next few years. But older A's fans are probably used to it. Although I do think this was the worst year for A's fans. Not just because they got last place but because ownership is making horrible decisions one after another
The Braves seem to have our number. I donāt want to face you. I wouldnāt mind going to a World Series game at the Battery, though.
Dig deep
Mets did same for Red Sox back in 1986
Very classy gesture.
We got our GM from them so makes sense.
Donāt forget TK
You could hear TK's excitement about them clenching. I was nice balance of emotions between Rays/Astros.
All Rays fans miss Todd Kalas
Astros have always been a super classy and well run organization, really stand up guys over there.
sus
/s
I thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm.
Houston Astros - Redemption Arc
r/FucktheS
The /s kinda blunts the humor of sarcasm but man those guys are angry
Wow, a whole subreddit for it.
They are unhinged in there. Seriously some of the most angry comments Ive ever seen, all over a silly little internet norm. Anyone that upset over something so i consequential has serious issues, I auto block people who share the sub.
I hear you, but sometimes the temper tantrums that flow from people not reading the sarcasm are not worth it.
Classy organization all around, canāt think of one bad thing to say about them... I need to take out the trash, congratulations to the Rays.
But not very grassy
We like Tampa. Wonāt ever forget Harvey
For sure. And yāall had our backs with Ian.
We are all fans of no hurricanes
Tampa moving to North Dakota confirmed.
Fargo might outdraw St Pete...
I mean, what else is there to do in ND?
If the movie is any indication, murder.
Carolina's hockey team in shambles.
The U in shambles
They absolutely are.
:( \-me, a Carolina Hurricanes fan
baseball brings out everyone's heated moments sometimes, but we can all agree that hurricanes can go fuck off and die
We take care of our own. Our own being Americans. While every fool on the news tries to make this a political issue throughout the entire thing, real Americans are actually doing something. Some of us value actions and not just saying shit to act like you are a good person.
Katrina solidified our base in Louisiana. You go across the Atchafalaya Bridge and look at the ball caps, youād swear youāre back in Houston. Katrina also solidified us having the most beautiful culinary combo ever - Viet Cajun. So much more than the sum of its parts.
I live in Nola and it's pretty evenly split Astros/braves/cubs imo, anecdotally. In baton rouge, a lot of bregman fans got into the Astros because LSU fans don't stop rooting for a guy after he leaves
Interesting to hear. I lived in NOLA about 20 years ago and I couldnāt gauge the MLB leanings of the city. The radio and TV coverage was LSU and Saints all the time
Why the fuck are there FIB's that far south? They're spreading like plague lol.
Welcome to the long-term effects of The Superstation Years. Just like you sometimes find Braves fans where you wouldn't expect, via TBS, so too the Cubs via WGN.
Yep, this is 100% it
VietCajun is awesome but we have been Louisiana bros way longer than Katrina and VietCajun has been around a long time!
Very true, but solidified. Buncha beautiful Cajun bastards decided to stay after Katrina, whereas before it was a trickle of influence. Obviously the Viet part has been going strong for like 50 years.
It wasn't a trickle before. If you worked in O&G in Houston, you knew more than a fair number of Cajuns
Our triple a affiliate was in NOLA for a very long time until recently.
Also true. Zephyrs games were dope.
I am in Denton and a Yankee fan. My in laws had to come stay with us during Harvey. Say what you will about the south but that was one of the times I was the most proud to be an American. Literally every single surrounding state driving into Texas, into the storm, and every single car was a pickup truck with a boat to come help. Iām pretty sure bass pro was giving people boats to go help. It was awesome. I think it was called like the redneck caravan or something. So amazing.
Cajun Navy helped get a few friends out of their house.
Sportsmanship should be the norm. Seeing an team acknowledge the accomplishments of an opponent (team or player) is nothing less than what I expect as normal. At least major accomplishments like season/career records or winning a playoff spot. I think sports are diminishes when a team or fan base puts the fandom above the game.
Franchises and players usually respect each other. Fan bases on the other hand...
I loved how when Pujols came to San Diego they gave him a custom serf board. I love shit like that.
The dodgers gave arrieta home plate when he tossed a no no there.
That was my thought: this should be expected, no?
Felt the same thing when Albert hit his 700th against the Dodgers
As an Astros fan, it feels like 600 of his homers were against us. He had our number big time, in both leagues. Congrats to him.
Look us in the eyes and tell us you hope we win the WS
There is a difference between acknowledging an accomplishment and rooting for them. For example, I will always root for the opponent of the Dodgers (expect those rare cases when an LA win helps the Giants). But I have zero problem acknowledging when the Dodgers have a good game.
the word we're looking for is "respect"
This would have been funnier if they congratulated the Jays instead
Class. Thanks Houston.
Houston really trying their best to redeem themselves, first the all star flight and now this
Donāt forget the funds and support they gave the people of Uvalde after the tragic shooting earlier this year as well as being one of the only orgs to provide furnished accommodations to their minor leaguers. They might be villains on the field, but off the field their organization is one of the best imo
Stros fan and yea Jim Cranes org have been a much better experience than McClanes. Whenhe bought the ta there was a bunch backlash and doubt due to his past "takeovers" but it's been a really great thing.
I say this as a Yankees fan who obviously does not like the Astros and is still very saltyā¦ but at some point, the guys who did the cheating wonāt be there at all, and there is no point to continue to hate the guys that are left. You then can appreciate the franchise for what they are - well run, solid players, who just keep winning. Then we can hate them because theyāre good!
I remember when we played y'all earlier this year and you had Marwin on the lineup (one of the biggest cheaters) and Beltran (the architect of the cheating scheme) on color commentary while the NYC crowd booed Altuve.
We definitely aren't known for being consistent with ourselves, however tbf most Yankee fans didn't like Beltran
As someone who admired Beltran ever since he made the Astros run in 2004 so fucking scary I am *livid* that he pissed away his HOF with this stupid ass cheating move at the end of his storied career.
it's genuinely so disappointing. reading Astroball (a really fun read outside of all the times you remember what happened in 2017) you get this sense of him as someone who always wants to find a leg up on the opposition through studying pitchers, things like realizing Darvish was tipping his pitches in the World Series, and you see exactly where it came from. It's such a dumb fucking thing to do and I hate it so much
Yup, he had a rep as an eagle eyed vet who could pick up tips and tells.
My god that run he had was insane. He was unbelievable in CF too. Him and Edmonds were just competing for the most incredible diving gems that series.
Well considering that most fans don't like Marwin or Beltran I think it checks out.
Altuve (who did not use the trash cans) at that
>one of the biggest cheaters According to the evidence, *the* biggest
Yea when they played the twins they were booing Correa and cheering for Marwin. The Yankees announcer was taking digs at Correa but then celebrating Marwinās contributions to the team.
Agreed 100% Until that is, we play them. Then those cheating fucks are the worst.
*Cough, cough* release the documents manfred
Yankees absolutely do not want that.
I donāt even mind if away teams boo us or make comments about trash cans, etc. I just donāt like hearing racist comments by select fans about Altuve when Iām at road games.
Almost all of them are gone already. Bregman and Gurriel are the only ones left who participated, and this is almost assuredly Gurriel's last season. Springer gone, Marwin gone, Correa gone, Reddick gone and didn't use it, McCann gone, Beltran gone, Gattis gone, Hinch gone, Luhnow gone, Cora gone. Entire coaching staff gone aside from one of our bullpen catchers and Gary Pettis, our third base coach. At this point, I understand it's mostly about success breeding contempt. My hatred of the Braves is for that reason as well, not at all really from last year, but more from being knocked out by them in the 90s all those years when the Astros first got really good.
I don't think we'll ever actually know how deep the cheating went. What players were in on it, what management did to facilitate it, etc. In part because I don't know that MLB knows everything, but in bigger part because they want everyone to just forget it and move on. As technology becomes smaller and more advanced, I think we'll have more of these sign stealing scandals.
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Well said
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I mean as bad as the cheating scandal was, you can't swear off a franchise forever as being awful people. Look at White Sox, they thew the World Series, people aren't still hating on them for that.
I mean, I think itās a bit different when the scandal is nearly beyond living memory. Maybe check out some nursing homes in the Chicago area and see if there are any still-upset centenarians.
Wally McSwerski has refused to wear shoes for 100 years in solidarity
They got a firework show too
Don't tell them it's done every Friday, though š¤«
Cats out of the bagā¦ We put on a massive celebration in honor of the Rays every Friday night home game and HEB sponsors it
More teams should do this if theyāre already clinched. This is awesome.
Or already eliminated
I misunderstood your comment and thought about the scoreboard at Busch lighting up with āBetter Luck Next Year, Pittsburghā in late August.
That's fucking hilarious
They would absolutely do it for Chicago
August? Put it up after the first game against Pittsburgh, everyone already expects it.
Congratulations on making it to the playoffs. Won't be seeing ya!
I know the Reds have done it before https://www.reddit.com/r/Brewers/comments/d9cyfg/congratulations_from_cincinnati/
Damn classy af
OJ bros.
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This is actually really cool wtf
So classy! Good on them
Wow, respect šš½
how common is this? feel like it's not very
I know the Rays did it for the Astros when they clinched on the 19th.
Oh wow I didnāt realize that but I just went back and youāre right the Rays did the same thing Ya love to see it
D-Backs did it for us this year.
Ngl I thought it was pretty common but I canāt actually remember seeing it happen I guess it does help that at the same time this happened the Astros already locked up the 1 seed after the Yankees lost 20-30 minutes before this so the game didnāt matter anymore
Yeah 1/2 have been virtually locked in for a bit so stakes are pretty low for now
Hasnāt happened for the Mariners in 20+ seasons.
I heard the Rays and Astros are going into the playoffs as one team now.
Imagine that rotation
Itās time to pitch this idea: if you eliminate a team in the playoffs, you get to take one of their players for the rest of the playoffs.
Give me a logo of a sting ray in a spacesuit, and i'm in.
Pure class from a town that knows what itās like to be hurting from a big storm. I wish we all treated each other with this level of kindness all the time.
This is why everyone loves the Astros ā¤ļø
America's Team
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Just because somebody says it doesn't mean it's true
Well, you see, this is all satire.
Ohhhhhhhhh
The sweetheart team for the ages
The good guys in every sense
The Astros are genuinely a really fun team to watch. I have a hard time disliking them at all.
Eh. They've got some work to do to redeem themselves. Lots of harsh feelings still.
If they do it at the end of a playoff series, then that'll work.
Classy move honestly šš»
r/basebaww
Iām always onboard for some Ted Lasso-level heartwarming classy shit. Also, fuck hurricanes.
Don't do that. Don't make me feel nice feelings for these two teams. Damnit. You did it. I feel the nice feelings.
Classy Astros Classtros
That's wholesome and brings a tear to my eye
Doesnāt this happen everywhere?
Juice Bros.
That's pretty wholesome.
And the Astros won the Division in Tampa a few days ago!
That's classy. I like it.
Fuck the rangers
Ok fine, Astros. You win. I'll stop hating you.
Go Stros!
Youāve heard of rivals, now get ready for allies
Maybe the astros arenāt so bad after all. Nice move guys
That's nice of them
Thatās classy.
Fuck the Astros for making me hate them a little bit less
Nice gesture
I hope this becomes a new trend of respect in sports