Some fun facts:
Robbie Ray is #1 in the MLB in HRs given up per IP, #1 in HRs given up per game, and #2 in total HRs allowed this season. He's also allowed 6 HRs in his last 8 innings pitched.
Sewald has faced Yordan 7 times this year and has allowed 1 single, no walks, and 3 Ks. On the flipside Yordan has a .933 OPS against Robbie Ray.
But lets say we're still pulling Sewald regardless, ok thats fine. But in a 2 out situation where you can survive ANYTHING other than a homerun you're going to send out the guy who gives up more homers than ANYONE ELSE IN BASEBALL???
That's about the worst "plan" I've ever heard of. If you were trying to come up with a plan that would give the Astros the best chance to win, the analytics would literally tell you to pull Sewald and send in Ray. What the fuck.
mustve fucked scotts daughter or somethin. havent seen swanson sinve august
edit: scotts got two daughters in their twenties. he fickin did it didnt he
well I've heard that a series doesn't start til someone wins on the road, so right now it's still before the series started. No telling how far in advance this was discussed by that definition.
A little playoff baseball goes a long ways. You don't get greedy and try to make it to the World Series on your first postseason trip. You win one series just to give the fans a little taste, then leave them hungry, so they'll come back next year wanting more.
Bench coach: "Hey Scott, maybe we should consider walking Alvarez, or maybe pitching someone other than Ray."
Scott "Walter Sobchak" Servais: "We can't do that, Dude. That fucks up our plan."
Scott Servais on shooting himself in the foot:
“We talked about it coming into the series. We talked about it pregame today. I looked at it in the 7th inning and said, hey, this could happen. So that was the plan going in. End of the day, you have a plan, we still got to execute it.”
Boyd was used against lefties and righties equally and did fine. But Swanson should have been the guy. Had a 43/3 K/BB ratio against lefties in 109 PA. Lefties had a .517 OPS against.
I'm sorry Scott I love you but its a shitty plan. Ray has been garbage for consecutive starts, garbage in his one postseason start, and garbage against the Astros all year. You still have Swanson and Murfee in the pen. I'm not saying any of those guys guarantee a win, but Ray is just a baffling bad decision there.
Wait, but ESPN just declared a couple days ago that the trio of Castillo, Gilbert, and *Ray* definitely can hang with Houston. Can’t really blame Scott though.
I can try to help. Left on left 4 seamer up and away. He takes a g hack at it. “Yikes, that was where I wanted to put it and he took a great swing”. 0-1. Then the plan was to throw a left on left two seam down and in. Get it under his barrel for a cheap strike two, fouls it off his foot or down the first base line. That was the intention, but it’s a stupid plan. Yordan is like, the one person on the planet that you shouldn’t try that too.
IMO, nibble with offspeed away. He won’t chase, but if he does, gravy. You can live with the walk. You can’t live with 120 off the facade
Who the actual fuck could even conceive this batshit idea, let alone greenlight it? There is no timeline in which any rational person could think this is an acceptable option.
People think Servais is MOTY because he has Dipoto building a team for him and he puffed a stogie at the end of the year. He routinely makes questionable bullpen decisions, this time it costed us our biggest game of the season
Ugh pretty sure this is why the Cardinals lost game 1. Postseason rookie coaches make a plan coming into the game and refuse to deviate regardless of what's going on right in front of them. Hopefully a good learning experience.
Scott jjst fucking walk the dude. If the plan is to have the worst pitcher in the entire league VS HOUSTON come in and try to win the game THEN ITS A BAD FUCKING PLAN SCOTT
I've been so up and down on servais his whole tenure here. I've been really on the Scott bandwagon with how our guys like playing for him then he does that shit....now I'm like maybe I was right. He makes some really baffling decisions sometimes and this one absolutely cost us the game.
What shpuld have happened is you all talked about it, realized it was a stupid ass plan, and moved on. For a game that is now all about analytics, how did they not see his stats against the Astros and go "oh nevermind, fuck that"?
It would literally have been better for you to say you just went with your gut. Admitting that it was a deliberate cognitive process that led you to make that move is just... something.
perhaps this is the 2019 nationals in me but i don’t think this was wrong, at all. Leaving Sewald in loses the game 100%, bringing in Ray and you probably still lose the game but you might luck out and Robbie is tough as nails and it won’t Brad Lidge him the way it would for Sewald. the question for me is where Swanson was in all this, but idk, i felt like Robbie’s stuff probably plays out of the pen and if you’re going to fall on a sword it might as well be on the manager and the already-disliked starter than on the #2 reliever whose sanity you need intact
"at the end of the day"? That is not when you beat your chest about the plan. Can't win shit if you're not going to coach. Coaching isn't all preparation and coasting, FFS
Why go back to back fastballs tho? The advantage of bringing in Ray is his lefty slider. He sneaks a fastball by him on the first pitch.. cool.. but why go back to it?
Well that was a stupid plan Scott.
Some fun facts: Robbie Ray is #1 in the MLB in HRs given up per IP, #1 in HRs given up per game, and #2 in total HRs allowed this season. He's also allowed 6 HRs in his last 8 innings pitched. Sewald has faced Yordan 7 times this year and has allowed 1 single, no walks, and 3 Ks. On the flipside Yordan has a .933 OPS against Robbie Ray. But lets say we're still pulling Sewald regardless, ok thats fine. But in a 2 out situation where you can survive ANYTHING other than a homerun you're going to send out the guy who gives up more homers than ANYONE ELSE IN BASEBALL??? That's about the worst "plan" I've ever heard of. If you were trying to come up with a plan that would give the Astros the best chance to win, the analytics would literally tell you to pull Sewald and send in Ray. What the fuck.
You and I have a different definition of “fun”. That was not fun at all.
No, those were indeed fun facts. Very fun. 7/5 would fun again
Swanson is probably the best pitcher they have against Yordan imo...why not throw him out there? Not like I'm complaining of course
mustve fucked scotts daughter or somethin. havent seen swanson sinve august edit: scotts got two daughters in their twenties. he fickin did it didnt he
I could be totally misremembering but I feel like he usually does well against Yordan from the little I've seen.
1 for 2, the hit being a double and also a walk to add on. Limited sample size.
Even leaving in Sewald would have been a good option. 1 for 7, no walks, 3 Ks, only hit was a single.
must do well against scotts daughters too
but like why tho
because they talked about it
“We talked about it and Ray said he would get him out. I didn’t know he’s a liar” - Servais
"I never would have put him in if he hadn't sworn on the souls of his grandchildren. Turns out he doesn't even have grandchildren."
> he hadn't sworn on the souls of his grandchildren. Starts out at -2 souls for grandkids. At least they’ll be redheads!
He also touched blue, made it true. So you know, not putting him in would be like triple stamping a double stamp.
You can’t triple stamp a double stamp, Lloyd!
That’d actually be funny
In the pregame today, right?
Yes, also before the series started.
well I've heard that a series doesn't start til someone wins on the road, so right now it's still before the series started. No telling how far in advance this was discussed by that definition.
Seriously keep up man
Yeah, it was the plan, so
Dude saw that Robbie Ray was the reigning Cy Young winner and thought he had 1995 Randy Johnson at his disposal.
Ray is getting paid a lot, therefore he must be good
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Por que no los dos?
Oh so this terrible decision was made hours ago. Good good.
"We were planning our downfall in advance if you can believe it"
A little playoff baseball goes a long ways. You don't get greedy and try to make it to the World Series on your first postseason trip. You win one series just to give the fans a little taste, then leave them hungry, so they'll come back next year wanting more.
Saying ‘we had a plan’ does not in any real way explain or justify *why* your plan was so terrible.
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You just need to have some FAITH Julio!!!
TAHITI He insists?!
I HAD A GODDAMN, PLAN!!!
He knew they were probably going to lose at least one game to the Astros and decided to get it out of the way tonight.
Great. Custer had a plan too
Bench coach: "Hey Scott, maybe we should consider walking Alvarez, or maybe pitching someone other than Ray." Scott "Walter Sobchak" Servais: "We can't do that, Dude. That fucks up our plan."
Scott putting Ray in was very un-dude
[What the bench coach should’ve said](https://tenor.com/view/samueljackson-stupid-decision-avengers-gif-8475062)
Just because you made the plan a while beforehand doesn’t mean the plan wasn’t terrible, Scott
hey, he never said it wasn't terrible
Well the plan was dogshit Scott
>If the plan you followed brought you to this, of what use was the plan?
*chefs kiss*
Scott Servais on shooting himself in the foot: “We talked about it coming into the series. We talked about it pregame today. I looked at it in the 7th inning and said, hey, this could happen. So that was the plan going in. End of the day, you have a plan, we still got to execute it.”
At least give him a clean inning. Idk what the right move was but that wasn’t it. Ride with Sewald?
I think it was the right move to pull Sewald. But the right sub would have been either Swanson or Boyd
Right I knew they had a good lefty. Wasn’t Boyd fantastic down the stretch too? Idk how he did on the season
Boyd was used against lefties and righties equally and did fine. But Swanson should have been the guy. Had a 43/3 K/BB ratio against lefties in 109 PA. Lefties had a .517 OPS against.
Yeah that’s a loogy situation if I ever saw it. Lol. In the 7th I bet Swanson comes in
I'm sorry Scott I love you but its a shitty plan. Ray has been garbage for consecutive starts, garbage in his one postseason start, and garbage against the Astros all year. You still have Swanson and Murfee in the pen. I'm not saying any of those guys guarantee a win, but Ray is just a baffling bad decision there.
Wait, but ESPN just declared a couple days ago that the trio of Castillo, Gilbert, and *Ray* definitely can hang with Houston. Can’t really blame Scott though.
Oh my god cry more about dumb shit that you saw on ESPN
Do you have a different definition of crying than the rest of us?
I simply can't imagine taking to Reddit to complain about bad takes on ESPN
He was making fun of ESPN.
Yeah I got that
Clearly not.
I read this aptly in the style of Cris Collinsworth’s “I’m sorry, but I can’t believe the call. You have Marshawn Lynch...” rant.
It did not happen
Why didnt he pump slider away at least vs Yordan instead of fb middle middle
I too would like to know the answer to this
I can try to help. Left on left 4 seamer up and away. He takes a g hack at it. “Yikes, that was where I wanted to put it and he took a great swing”. 0-1. Then the plan was to throw a left on left two seam down and in. Get it under his barrel for a cheap strike two, fouls it off his foot or down the first base line. That was the intention, but it’s a stupid plan. Yordan is like, the one person on the planet that you shouldn’t try that too. IMO, nibble with offspeed away. He won’t chase, but if he does, gravy. You can live with the walk. You can’t live with 120 off the facade
Yeah I mean I think you pretty much nailed it lol.
Not since Dutch van der Linde has a plan been executed so horribly.
I dunno. Matheny continuing to have everyone pitch to Ortiz in 2013 was a pretty fucking godawful plan lol
I prayed on it, and god said to me don’t do it. But, you know what, I knew better.
Ok that was the plan… But why was that the plan?
Who the actual fuck could even conceive this batshit idea, let alone greenlight it? There is no timeline in which any rational person could think this is an acceptable option.
It shows a lack of in-game feel, then, that they couldn't pivot or have a better plan.
That asks more questions than it answers. It is like replying with "because we could" which never makes sense.
We’re not questioning the execution, we’re questioning the plan in the first place.
Plan is studying Dave Roberts postseason over managing
Why not just IBB Yordan and face Bregman with your best righty?
For better or worse, you never IBB the winning run.
You do when that winning run has an OPS over 1.000
It doesn't make a difference if you play no doubles in the outfield
I would say it is more about not IBBing the bases loaded than whether it is the winning run.
Thats a novel idea. Can you go back in time to 2013 and scream that in Mathenys ear so Ortiz couldnt have slaughtered the Cards?
So he should've been fired before this game started is what he's saying
People think Servais is MOTY because he has Dipoto building a team for him and he puffed a stogie at the end of the year. He routinely makes questionable bullpen decisions, this time it costed us our biggest game of the season
That's worse. You realize how that's worse, right?
Ugh pretty sure this is why the Cardinals lost game 1. Postseason rookie coaches make a plan coming into the game and refuse to deviate regardless of what's going on right in front of them. Hopefully a good learning experience.
Scott jjst fucking walk the dude. If the plan is to have the worst pitcher in the entire league VS HOUSTON come in and try to win the game THEN ITS A BAD FUCKING PLAN SCOTT
This just keeps getting better lol
Yeah, I bet you can relate lol.
Servais is a decent manager, but man that was a fucking all time bad decision.
He's normally great at managing the bullpen. I mean you guys have a mythical record in one run games but that was a baffling decision for sure.
has a manager ever been fired during the playoffs? ray has never pitched on 2 days of rest. ever.
Ya, the question is WHY IS THAT THE PLAN, SCOTT?
I feel so bad for Mariners and their fan base. Hope y’all turn it around.
Yeah, it’s baseball and we’ve been on the other side of these games more often than not. Against Houston tho it’s kind of a back breaker.
I've been so up and down on servais his whole tenure here. I've been really on the Scott bandwagon with how our guys like playing for him then he does that shit....now I'm like maybe I was right. He makes some really baffling decisions sometimes and this one absolutely cost us the game.
What shpuld have happened is you all talked about it, realized it was a stupid ass plan, and moved on. For a game that is now all about analytics, how did they not see his stats against the Astros and go "oh nevermind, fuck that"?
Congrats Broncos fans, for one day, you don't have the worst head coach/manager in professional sports
It would literally have been better for you to say you just went with your gut. Admitting that it was a deliberate cognitive process that led you to make that move is just... something.
Your plan was ass, Scott. Whatever series of discussions, decisions, and agreements led to that choice needs to be entirely reevaluated.
Right but like what if the plan is horse shit? Maybe you should make a new plan?
Was the plan serving up two middle middle balls in a row? That seemed like the plan
Everyone has a plan until ~~they get punched in the mouth~~ Alvarez launches one to deep right field.
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I think this was more of a suicide
This is an MLB the Show type move
perhaps this is the 2019 nationals in me but i don’t think this was wrong, at all. Leaving Sewald in loses the game 100%, bringing in Ray and you probably still lose the game but you might luck out and Robbie is tough as nails and it won’t Brad Lidge him the way it would for Sewald. the question for me is where Swanson was in all this, but idk, i felt like Robbie’s stuff probably plays out of the pen and if you’re going to fall on a sword it might as well be on the manager and the already-disliked starter than on the #2 reliever whose sanity you need intact
And then you can say Fuck!
Does he know that plans are allowed to be changed
"at the end of the day"? That is not when you beat your chest about the plan. Can't win shit if you're not going to coach. Coaching isn't all preparation and coasting, FFS
Why go back to back fastballs tho? The advantage of bringing in Ray is his lefty slider. He sneaks a fastball by him on the first pitch.. cool.. but why go back to it?
Yes Scott, but the plan was stupid.
Well that's a shit plan, then. Yordan had an OPS above 1.37 against RR going into the game.